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Stan In FL
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« on: January 09, 2013, 10:11:09 AM »

there aren't "qualms".  there is terror.  these people are as good as dead.  they will be killed right after their families are slaughtered in front of them.  if they gave us any assistance whatsoever -- or even if they didn't -- they will be tortured in the most medieval fashion imaginable and killed.

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In Old Taliban Strongholds, Qualms About What Lies Ahead

LOY BAGH, Afghanistan — The battle against the Taliban in Helmand Province was so fierce two years ago that farmers here say there were some fields where virtually every ear of corn had a bullet in it.

Now it is peaceful enough that safety concerns were an afterthought during this year’s harvest. In districts of Helmand like Marja and Nad Ali that used to be Taliban strongholds, life has been transformed by the American troop surge that brought in tens of thousands of Marines three years ago. Over several recent days, a reporter was able to drive securely to places that in the past had been perilous without a military escort, and many of the roads were better paved, too.

So why, then, was it so difficult to find an optimist in Helmand Province?

In conversations with dozens of tribal elders, farmers, teachers and provincial officials, three factors loomed large: dissatisfaction with the Afghan government, the imminent departure of Western troops and recognition that the Taliban are likely to return. Few expressed much faith in the ability of the Afghan government and security forces to maintain the security gains won by the huge American and British military effort here.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 12:13:06 PM »

Security gains won..............in Afghanistan...............how stupid are we?  Just because our enemy lies low and off the radar does not mean we gained anything.

If Vietnam has taught the world anything, it is that eventually America will pack its bags and go home.  One just need only to be patient.  And so, this is what the Taliban has done to some degree.  They are not engaging our forces daily in a true war.  Everything is covert, just like Vietnam, and we do recall the outcome of that yes?

Karzai will be dead in one year or less after the USA withdraws, and the Taliban will restore control of Afghanistan.  The Bush-Obama efforts in Afghanistan have accomplished nothing but get many thousands of good people dead, or soon to be dead.  Foolish and ignorant foreign policy, and history will record it accordingly.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 12:52:22 PM »

 I don't give Karzai a year. Of course the Taliban has a list of who they are going to torture and kill. Familys will be slaughtered.
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