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Title: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 12, 2012, 02:53:18 PM
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Video recording from the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya reveals that militants were highly coordinated and engaged in a “military style” operation, according to the Daily Beast.

Two intelligence officers who viewed the video told the Daily Beast’s Eli Lake that the video “shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound.”

The militants killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Lake reports:

    The Obama administration has been studying the videos, taken from closed-circuit cameras throughout the Benghazi consulate’s four-building compound, for clues about who was responsible for the attack and how it played out. The two officials tell The Daily Beast that analysts are hoping to decipher the faces of the attackers and match them up with known jihadists.

    The videos could also play into an expanding investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that is looking at whether security steps could have been taken that would have saved the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans killed that day. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who is one of the Republicans leading the House investigation, says he hasn’t been given the footage.

http://freebeacon.com/report-video-recording-of-libya-attack-shows-coordinated-assault/


Title: Re: Report: Video Recording of Libya Attack Shows Coordinated Assault
Post by: apples on October 12, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
Video From Benghazi Consulate Shows Organized Attack

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Footage from the night of Sept. 11 might be the clearest evidence yet of a military-style assault on the consulate in Benghazi. Eli Lake reports.

   

Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site last week by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.
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The Obama administration has been studying the videos, taken from closed-circuit cameras throughout the Benghazi consulate’s four-building compound, for clues about who was responsible for the attack and how it played out. The two officials tell The Daily Beast that analysts are hoping to decipher the faces of the attackers and match them up with known jihadists.

The videos could also play into an expanding investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that is looking at whether security steps could have been taken that would have saved the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans killed that day. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who is one of the Republicans leading the House investigation, says he hasn’t been given the footage.

In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.

Video from the compound’s cameras debunk the initial line from the Obama administration that there was a protest in front of the consulate on the night of the attacks, according to one of the U.S. intelligence officials who has seen the footage, and a senior Obama administration official familiar with what they show.

The videos were filmed from multiple closed-circuit cameras throughout the compound, and are at times grainy and hard to decipher. There are also some gaps. There is no footage, for example, of Ambassador Chris Stevens going into the safe room where he eventually died from smoke inhalation. The footage at the gate of the compound is taken from an angle that filmed the attackers from the side, so the people in the crowd can mostly be seen in profile.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/12/video-from-benghazi-consulate-shows-organized-attack.html


Title: Rep. Trey Gowdy Explodes At Libya Hearing: 'I Want To Know Why We Were Lied To'
Post by: apples on October 12, 2012, 04:56:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Za4KXo5Ao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Za4KXo5Ao&feature=youtu.be


Title: State Department: Al Qaeda Could Have Full List of Yemenis Working With US
Post by: apples on October 12, 2012, 06:20:32 PM
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QUESTION: Is it safe to assume that he was targeted by al-Qaida, who may have also a list of all the national – Yemeni national employees at the Embassy?

MS. NULAND: Well, Said, I’m sure you can understand if I stress the fact that the Yemenis are investigating. We are supporting their investigation. It is premature – this happened today – for us to be drawing conclusions about who did it, why it happened, all of those things. But obviously it’s of great concern, and it’s of great concern given the larger issues in the region.

This is a stunning admission by the State Department. By refusing to say whether al Qaeda has a list of Yemenis working with the US embassy in Yemen, she tacitly admits that they could – and that puts all of their lives in danger. In Libya, our failure to secure our Benghazi consulate resulted in the loss of crucial national security intelligence, supposedly including lists of Libyans working with us in the country. Now it appears that a second list may have found its way to al Qaeda in Yemen.

The State Department went on to state that the Yemeni security official killed may have been targeted and murdered for other reasons:

QUESTION: Does that mean that you don’t know if he was targeted because he was an employee? This could have been – as far as you know, this could have been just a random act of crime – criminality?

MS. NULAND: It could – he could have been killed for reasons that had something to do with his job or reasons that had nothing to do with his job.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/12/State-Department-Al-Qaeda-Yemen


Title: WEAPONS HUNTING: The Reason for the 9-11 Murders in Libya
Post by: apples on October 13, 2012, 12:31:20 PM
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Libyan al Qaeda ringleader Qumu, hired by Hillary Clinton to overthrow America-cooperative Muammar Qaddafi, in the Obama/Clinton version of the bipartisan-prepared Arab Spring, kills the U.S. field staff engaged in weapons tracking and (one would hope) recovery, on the job in Benghazi, on 9-11-2012

    He and Ambassador Stevens, as well as the two other special operators from Wind Zero, were executing a CIA and State Department mission to track not only Qaddafi’s weapons, but to trace any and all weapons trafficking in the regions. Smith was the information officer at the Benghazi mission and likely was too close to having uncovered intelligence that pinpointed key players both in and outside of Libya. Intelligence was shared with the CIA, which does enforce the drone program, whether inside Libya, stemming from the mission to remove Qaddafi, or in other hot-spots in the Middle East.

The Soviet occupation in Afghanistan was a long and stalwart war to install a subset of an overall communist footprint in the region. Military and ideological defeat were predictable and the CIA aided in the quest against the Soviets. Part of the original objective of the United States (credited to Zbigniew Brzezinski and adopted by Presidents Carter and Reagan) was to arm key factions to fend off the Soviets.

This was successful. But, as the full retreat by the Soviets was underway, al Qaeda and the Taliban were soon in full possession of weapons that the United States had provided over the years to the anti-Soviet opposition. And the greater part of weapons inventories were Soviet, including even tanks, amidst quite a full array of conventional weapons left behind in their hasty exit. The Afghanis being resourceful took full advantage and learned to repair, rebuild and clone weapons and ammunition, both.

This would soon become a major threat to the West. The cure was to dial up big dollars and go on a buy-back mission to get the weapons out of the hands of militants. Everyone in the nation was armed with virtual immunity; no checks and balances of force existed. Mutual failures to contain were nearly locked in. So, at least by the time of the Clinton administration, the U.S. had begun attempts at a buy-back program, to regain weapons sent to Afghanistan.

MANPADS

Looking over to Libya, Qaddafi during his reign, set on a quest to obtain his own arsenal. It came to include not only millions of weapons, from small arms and rocket propelled grenades, to Russian shoulder fired SA-24 missiles; it also carried a nuclear ambition. Foreign leaders pressed Qaddafi only on the nuclear ambition and there he capitulated, but all other weapons including the MANPADS among its surface to air missiles arsenal, was left out of the process and the arrangements made with him.

Last year, as the mission was underway to remove Qaddafi from power, a great deal of confusion set in and all armories were raided by unique militias across Libya. All weapons were stolen and taken to destinations unknown. Qaddafi had spent an estimated $30 billion in the span of twenty-five years, on conventional weapons from the USSR and China, via Algeria and even Belarus.  Included in this stout purchasing campaign were planes and communications equipment.

In the realms of arms trafficking, black markets, and jihad, members of these groups know the movement of weapons and maintain a keen eye upon their vulnerability, either to steal or to purchase them at discounted prices. Such was the case during the regime change objective, to remove Qaddafi from power. Libya experienced a huge infiltration of underworld terror groups such as al Qaeda, Boko Harem, pirates from Somalia, and militias, all sneaking into Qaddafi’s inventory. Weapons did leave Libya, but it is unknown just what remained in country. Of particular importance are the 20,000 MANPADS of which today, only 5,000 have been recovered.

Enter the United States with a large purse of an allocated $40 million, to search for weapons and to buy-back in large numbers, while tracing and tracking the sources and associations of the grou

http://gulagbound.com/33988/weapons-hunting-the-reason-for-the-9-11-murders-in-libya/#.UHmUqmdzddi

What say you?


Title: Re: State Department: Al Qaeda Could Have Full List of Yemenis Working With US
Post by: Stan In FL on October 13, 2012, 04:12:45 PM
Under the obamites, working with the US will get you killed.  And they don't care.


Title: Re: Rep. Trey Gowdy Explodes At Libya Hearing: 'I Want To Know Why We Were Lied To'
Post by: Stan In FL on October 13, 2012, 04:14:44 PM
The country deserves an answer to that question.


Title: Re: State Department: Al Qaeda Could Have Full List of Yemenis Working With US
Post by: apples on October 13, 2012, 04:16:25 PM
Under the obamites, working with the US will get you killed.  And they don't care.
leveling the playing field.


Title: Re: Report: Video Recording of Libya Attack Shows Coordinated Assault
Post by: Stan In FL on October 13, 2012, 04:30:28 PM
must have been intermission at the movie that started all of this.


Title: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:28:14 PM
I should have started this a week or so ago.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations

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Fri, 12 Oct 2012

Fox military analyst Col. David Hunt checked in with us again after the revelation that there were multiple listening posts which heard the cries for help from the US Embassy in Libya and none of them did anything. The State Department says they still do not know what really happened in Libya.

bold type mine...

http://audio.wrko.com/a/64657882/col-hunt-on-the-newest-libyan-revelations.htm

Listen to this while it is still available.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
What Happened In Benghazi

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The State Department has released a transcript of a briefing that two high-ranking department officials gave to a number of reporters via conference call on October 9 (Tuesday). I am not certain about this, but I believe the transcript was only made public today. You should read it in its entirety; it is the most detailed description I have seen of the events in Benghazi on September 11.

While this is by no means clear, it appears that the State Department may have released the transcript as part of the escalating conflict between Barack Obama and Joe Biden and the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. In their desperation to avoid responsibility for the Benghazi debacle, Obama and Biden have pointed fingers in two directions: at the intelligence community for reporting incorrectly that the incident was a protest over a YouTube video clip, and at the State Department for not providing adequate security for the Ambassador.

Here are some excerpts from the narrative:

    A few minutes later – we’re talking about 9 o’clock at night – the Ambassador retires to his room, the others are still at Building C, and the one agent in the [Tactical Operations Center]. At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound. One special agent immediately goes to get the Ambassador in his bedroom and gets Sean, and the three of them enter the safe haven inside the building. …

    They turn around immediately and head back – or the two of them, from Building B, turn around immediately with their kit and head back to Villa C, where the Ambassador and his colleagues are. They encounter a large group of armed men between them and Building C. I should say that the agent in Building C with the Ambassador has radioed that they are all in the safe haven and are fine. The agents that encounter the armed group make a tactical

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/what-happened-in-benghazi.php


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
Colonel: Hillary Made Decision Not to Post Marines at Benghazi

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In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, Fox News military analyst Colonel David Hunt laid the blame for the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans at the Benghazi, Libya American mission on Hillary Clinton and the State Department:

    The State Department just allowed our guys to get killed. If you approve no bullets in guns for the mission security guards and an outhouse for a mission, you’re inviting it.

Earlier, on Howie Carr's radio show  (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/13/Colonel-Hillary-Responsible-For-Unarmed-Security-Vulnerable-Embassies)Thursday, Colonel Hunt said that the American mission at Benghazi "was like a cardboard building, there wasn't even bullet proof glass." In addition, Hunt said the security guards inside the mission didn't have bullets:

    Howie Carr: They weren't allowed to have bullets, is that correct?

    Colonel Hunt: That's true. They were private security. The rules of engagement were ridiculous.

Hunt told Breitbart News that the new State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, approved and signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton since the 2011 fall of Khadafi's regime, severely compromised the safety and security of murdered Ambassador Stevens and all American diplomatic staff in Libya.

He also stated that the decision not to staff Benghazi with Marines was made by Secretary of State Clinton when she attached her signature to the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya document. Breitbart News has subsequently learned that under those rules of engagement, Secretary Clinton prohibited Marines from providing security at any American diplomatic installation in Libya (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/14/State-Department-Rules-of-Engagement-Kept-Marines-Out-of-Tripoli-as-Well-as-Benghazi-in-Libya).

SNIP

Ambassador Stevens was based at the American embassy in Tripoli. According to a spokesperson at the State Department, he would visit the mission at Benghazi sporadically. No one at the State Department has yet answered this key question:

    Why on the anniversary of 9-11 was he at the low security mission in Benghazi when it would obviously have been more prudent for him to have been at the presumably more secure embassy in Tripoli?

At her daily press briefing on Thursday, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland offered a description of the defenses at the Benghazi mission (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/09/197729.htm) that appeared to be in conflict with other press reports. In contrast to some reports that said security within the perimeter of the mission was provided by Libyan nationals, Nuland stated that they provided security on the perimeter and that "there was a robust American security presence inside the compound." [emphasis added]:

    QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit more about the security that was at the Embassy? It seems that for an area such as Benghazi,

where there was a lot of

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/14/Colonel-Says-Hillary-Clinton-Made-Decision-to-Have-No-Marines-at-Benghazi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:52:28 PM
Benghazi: Osama's Revenge on Obama

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    . Police Vehicle Outside Consulate "Fled The Scene"; No Response To Libyan Guards' Call For Backup 

    'Ali ... was taken by surprise by the attack, which he said "seemed to come out of nowhere." He said that he first noticed that the police car outside the consulate - an additional layer of security provided by the Libyan government - "took off quickly, fleeing the scene."

    He then saw some 50 men, mostly unarmed, approaching the consulate by foot on the dirt road leading up to it, headed by eight masked men, two of whom carried RPGs. ... Shortly thereafter, one of the attackers fired three (RPG) rounds at the main gate, while others stormed the consulate wall.

    ...the great majority of the attackers were Libyans from Benghazi, and some of them were masked. ... four of the attackers, all apparently masked, were the leaders of the group, because ... all the others seemed to listen to them and to follow their orders.

    ... one of the four leaders had worn a Pakistani-type garment, and carried a golden pistol. A second, whom he described as a "short, fat, irritable" man about 5'4" with a beard visible under his mask carrying an AK-47, asked him about where the Americans were inside the consulate. A third man, he said, who was about 5'7", wore a long robe."

This is the age of the web, and the U.S. State Department must have been following every moment of the six-hour attack.  They knew about September 11.  They knew about Zawahiri's video.  They knew Al-Libi was assassinated on President Obama's direct orders in Pakistan.  They had received distress calls from the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

They knew.  If they didn't know, they should resign en masse.

If the State Department knew, Hillary must have known.  If Hillary knew, Obama must have been told.  This is the age of instant communication.  Didn't somebody have a cell phone?

They knew and did nothing.

It was 3 am, and nobody picked up the phone.

If Americans can't figure this out, the bad guys will.  They already know.  Only the ignorant and foolish don't get it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2012/10/benghazi_osamas_revenge_on_obama.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Axelrod Throws State Department Under Benghazi Bus

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The State Department is the latest casualty of the Obama administration’s obfuscation of the events surrounding the Benghazi attack.

Tearing a few pages out of the old Clinton playbook, David Axelrod carefully defined the word “we” this morning for Fox News’ Chris Wallace: when the Vice President said in Wednesday’s debate that “we” weren’t aware of the Benghazi consulate’s requests for increased security, “we” included only the President and the Vice President – not the Obama administration at large or the State Department.  You got that, right?

In response to Wallace’s inquiry about whether the President takes personal responsibility for the denial of security requests in Benghazi, Axelrod said, “these were judgments that were made by security folks at the State Department.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330358/axelrod-throws-state-department-under-benghazi-bus-eliana-johnson


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 03:03:03 PM
Background Briefing on Libya

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Office of the Spokesperson
Background Conference Call With Senior State Department Officials
Washington, DC
October 9, 2012

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OPERATOR: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the State Department call on Libya. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. Should you require any assistance during the call, please press *, then 0.

I’d now like to turn the conference over to your host, [Moderator]. Please go ahead.

MODERATOR: Hey, everybody. Thanks for joining us on such relatively short notice, late on a Tuesday evening. You know that since the beginning, we’ve been working with Congress on trying to ascertain the facts and convey the facts of what happened on 9/11 in Benghazi. In the last 24 hours and in the next 24 hours, we’re going to be engaging with Congress, and we wanted to give you a sense, in the press, of what we’ve been telling them.

So joining us tonight are two Senior State Department Officials, and this will be on background, and they will be Senior State Department Official Number One, who is [Senior State Department Official Number One]; and Senior State Department Official Number Two, [Senior State Department Official Number Two].

So in any case, thank you for joining us, and I’m going to hand it over to Senior State Department Official Number One. And just a reminder before I do, again, this is on background. Thank you.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: All right. Let me proceed. I’m going to give you as much information as possible about the events of that night, but I am going to start with a scene-setter.

So let me set the stage. On April 5th, 2011, a small Department of State team headed by Chris Stevens arrives by chartered boat in Benghazi. They set up shop in a hotel. This is at a time when Benghazi was liberated, Qadhafi was still in power in Tripoli, the war was going on, our Ambassador had been expelled from Tripoli by Qadhafi, the Embassy staff had been evacuated because it was unsafe. So Chris Stevens coming back into Benghazi – coming into Benghazi on April 5th, 2011, is the only U.S. Government people in Libya at this time.

They set up shop in a hotel, as I mentioned. A few weeks later in June, a bomb explodes in the parking lot in front of the hotel. The group in Benghazi makes a decision to move to a new location. They move to a couple of places, and by August they settle on a large compound which is where the actual activity on 9/11 took place. So they’re in a large compound, where they remain.

The compound is roughly 300 yards long – that’s three football fields long – and a hundred yards wide. We need that much room to provide the best possible setback against car bombs. Over the next few months, physical security at the compound is strengthened. The outer wall is upgraded, its height is increased to nine feet.It is topped by three feet of barbed wire and concertina wire all around the huge property. External lighting is increased. Jersey barriers, which are big concrete blocks, are installed outside and inside the gate. Steel drop bars are added at the gates to control vehicle access and to provide some anti-ram protection. The buildings on the compound itself were strengthened.

The compound has four buildings on it, and you guys are going to have to get used to this, because I refer them to – as Building C, Building B, Tactical Operations Center, and a barracks. So Building C is a building that is essentially a large residence. It has numerous bedrooms and it is – it has a safe haven installed in it, and I’ll talk more about that in a minute. Building C ultimately is the building that the Ambassador was in, so keep that in your heads.

Building B is another residence on the compound. It has bedrooms and it has a cantina. That’s where the folks dine. The Tactical Operations Center, which is just across the way from Building B, has offices and a bedroom. That’s where the security officers had their main setup, that’s where the security cameras are, a lot of the phones – it’s basically their operations center. So I’ll call it the TOC from now on.

And then there was a barracks. The barracks is a small house by the front gate, the main gate of the compound. In that barracks is a Libyan security force which I’ll describe in a minute. Security on the compound consists of five Diplomatic Security special agents and four members of the Libyan Government security force, which I will henceforth call the 17th February Brigade. It is a militia, a friendly militia, which has basically been deputized by the Libyan Government to serve as our security, our host government security. In addition to all those, there is an additional security force at another U.S. compound two kilometers away. It serves as a rapid reaction force, a quick reaction security team – a quick reaction security team, okay?

Now we’re on the day of, and before I go into this discussion of the day of the events of 9/11, I’m going to be – I want to be clear to you all. I am giving you this – you my best shot on this one. I am giving you what I know. I am giving it to you in as much granularity as I possibly can. This is still, however, under investigation. There are other facts to be known, but I think I’m going to be able to give you quite a lot, as far as I know it. I have talked to the – to almost all the agents that were involved, as well as other people.

Okay. The Ambassador has arrived in Benghazi on the 10th of September. He does meetings both on the compound and off the compound on that day, spends the night. The next day is 9/11. He has all his – because it is 9/11, out of prudence, he has all his meetings on the compound. He receives a succession of visitors during the day.

About 7:30 in the evening, he has his last meeting. It is with a Turkish diplomat. And at – when the meeting is over, at 8:30 – he has all these meetings, by the way, in what I call Building C – when the meeting is over, he escorts the Turkish diplomat to the main gate. There is an agent there with them. They say goodbye. They’re out in a street in front of the compound. Everything is calm at 8:30 p.m. There’s nothing unusual. There has been nothing unusual during the day at all outside.

After he sees the Turkish diplomat off, the Ambassador returns to Building C, where the information management officer – his name is Sean Smith, and who is one of the victims – the information management officer – I’ll just call him Sean from now on, on this call – and four other – four Diplomatic Security agents are all at Building C. One Diplomatic Security agent is in the TOC, the Tactical Operations Center. All of these agents have their side arms.

A few minutes later – we’re talking about 9 o’clock at night – the Ambassador retires to his room, the others are still at Building C, and the one agent in the TOC. At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound. One special agent immediately goes to get the Ambassador in his bedroom and gets Sean, and the three of them enter the safe haven inside the building.

And I should break for a second and describe what a safe haven is. A safe haven is a fortified area within a building. This particular safe haven has a very heavy metal grill on it with several locks on it. It essentially divides the one – the single floor of that building in half, and half the floor is the safe haven, the bedroom half. Also in the safe haven is a central sort of closet area where people can take refuge where there are no windows around. In that safe haven are medical supplies, water, and such things. All the windows to that area of the building have all been grilled. A couple of them have grills that can be open from the inside so people inside can get out, but they can’t be – obviously can’t be opened from the outside.

The agent with the Ambassador in the safe haven has – in addition to his side arm, has his long gun, or I should say – it’s an M4 submachine gun, standard issue. The other agents who have heard the noise in the – at the front gate run to Building B or the TOC – they run to both, two of them to Building B, one to the TOC – to get their long guns and other kit. By kit, I mean body armor, a helmet, additional munitions, that sort of thing.

They turn around immediately and head back – or the two of them, from Building B, turn around immediately with their kit and head back to Villa C, where the Ambassador and his colleagues are. They encounter a large group of armed men between them and Building C. I should say that the agent in Building C with the Ambassador has radioed that they are all in the safe haven and are fine. The agents that encounter the armed group make a tactical decision to turn around and go back to their Building B and barricade themselves in there. So we have people in three locations right now.

And I neglected to mention – I should have mentioned from the top that the attackers, when they came through the gate, immediately torched the barracks. It is aflame, the barracks that was occupied by the 17th February Brigade armed ho

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:07:15 PM
Transcript of President Obama's remarks following deadly attacks at US consulate in Libya




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The following is a transcript of President Obama's remarks on Sept. 12, 2012, following attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

OBAMA:  Good morning. 

Every day all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi.  Among those killed was our ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith.  We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. 

And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers. 

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack.  We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats.  I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world.  And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people. 

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths.  We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.

But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence.  None.  The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts. Already many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans.  Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens' body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had tied. 

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save.  At the height of the Libyan revolution Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage and resolve he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. 

When the Qaddafi regime came to an end Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy.  And I think both Secretary Clinton and I have relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. 

He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps. 

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war.  As (ph) today the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. 

I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who loved them back home. Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourn with the families who were lost on that day.  I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed.  And then last night we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi. 

As Americans let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases lay down their lives for it.  Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those, both civilian and military, who represent us around the globe. 

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. 

Today we mourn for more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.  We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. 

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers.  These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity.  They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity. 

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory and let us continue their work in seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children. 

Thank you.  May God bless the memory of those we lost, and may God bless the United States of America.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/transcript-president-obama-remarks-following-deadly-attacks-at-us-consulate-in/#ixzz29JGpZxfu


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:09:08 PM
The Big Lie: Obama Did Not Call Benghazi Attack Terrorism on Sep. 12

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On Sep. 20, for example, when the administration first began to backtrack, White House spokesman Jay Carney suddenly told reporters that it was "self-evident" that the Benghazi attack had been a "terrorist attack"--by which he meant specifically that "Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials."

In other words, the attack was "terrorist" because it was violent--but not necessarily because it was carried out by terrorists.

Carney did not allow that the attack had been premeditated, leaving the administration enough wiggle room to continue to blame the video--as President Obama subsequently did again, five days later, at the United Nations on Sep. 25. In his speech, Obama failed to use the word "terror" or "terrorism" to describe the attack.

In the days that followed Obama's speech, the White House and the State Department gradually and grudgingly acknowledged the reality that the attack in Benghazi had nothing to do with the video. Last week, on Oct. 9, the State Department finally stated unequivocally that there had been no protest outside the U.S consulate prior to the attack.

So the Obama White House, and the Obama campaign, had to change their story again. Having relied for weeks on the imaginary distinction between terrorism as a reaction to the anti-Islam video (a meaning that they had embraced), and cause of the attack (a meaning that they had denied), they began pretending that President Obama had referred to terrorism in the latter, broader sense as early as Sep. 12.

Meanwhile, the State Department--which presumably reports to Obama at some level--continues to refuse to call the attacks "terrorism," treating the word as a kind of value judgment rather than a statement of fact.

It is not necessary to examine the whole timeline of events to understand that Obama and his spokespeople are lying yet again. Obama's own words on Sep. 12 are proof enough. He placed the 9/11 attacks in the context of global outrage against an obscure anti-Islam video--making sure to condemn it--and only addressed terror in an abstract sense, never as a description of, or a cause of, the attacks themselves.

Obama and his minions lied more than a month ago, and they are lying to America still.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/14/The-Big-Lie-Obama-Did-Not-Call-Libya-Attacks-Terrorism-on-September-12


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
Benghazi-Gate: A Timeline of Government Deceit, Deception, and Outright Lies article date 9/29/12

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"Al-Qaeda is on the path to defeat." -- President Barack Obama: Sept 6th, 2012, at the Democratic Convention.

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Late yesterday afternoon, in an obvious attempt to rescue President Obama from what could and should be a brutal round of Sunday shows examining the cover up the White House is currently engaged in with respect to the sacking of our consulate in Libya, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) released a statement revising its assessment of the attack. It is now the official position of the American intelligence community that what happened in Benghazi was a pre-planned terrorist attack.

The statement comes from Shawn Turner, director of public affairs for National Intelligence -- the office that speaks for the intelligence community as a whole:

As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists. It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate.

This is not news. In the last few days, the White House and State Department have both made statements saying exactly that. 

This, however, is news and should be read carefully:

In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving.

There's no question that what we have here is the DNI (Obama appointee James Clapper) attempting to fall on his sword and to put an end to the drumbeat of scandal coming mostly from Republicans and right-of-center media. What's been exposed, just weeks before a presidential election, is the fact that in the aftermath of the Benghazi attack, the White House and State Department knowingly misled and lied to the American people about what they knew and when they knew it.

But what the DNI statement is really meant to do is muddy the waters.

The statement deliberately omits any information as to exactly when the determination was made that Benghazi was indeed a terrorist attack. Most importantly, nothing in the statement contradicts numerous news reports that U.S. officials were certain within 24 hours that they were dealing with a terrorist attack and not a spontaneous protest gone bad. 

In other words, the DNI statement is so intentionally vague that it could read as confirmation that our government knew within 24 hours that Benghazi was a terrorist attack and still lied about it for days afterward.

And this, my friends, is how a cover up works.

And so, the only response to this cynical muddying of the waters is a 30,000 foot approach that might help connect some dots.

Standing on the shoulders of those who have done the admirable work of digging into and investigating this story (most notably, Brett Baier of Fox News, Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard, Jake Tapper of ABC News, and the Daily Beast's Eli Lake), what I want to do is lay out a timeline of known facts that answer a very simple question:

What did our government know and what were we told when they knew it? 

What you'll see below was inspired by the vitally important video-report Brett Baier closed "Special Report" with last night, but this will hopefully go into even greater detail. We'll also look into three specific areas: 1) Security failures. 2) The lies. 3) The attempted cover up of numbers one and two.

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SECURITY FAILURES

In an attempt to justify that the security at our Libyan consulate in Benghazi was "adequate," the White House laid a narrative along two tracks. The first, obviously, was that there was no way anyone could've predicted that a "spontaneous" protest would go bad. In fact, that defense would be the White House position for a full eight days, until Sept 20th, when White House Spokesman Jay Carney would finally admit it was "self-evident" Benghazi was a terror attack.

The second narrative track, however, is as shaky as the first. Essentially, the Administration's line is that, based on what we knew, security was adequate.

That's a judgment call, I guess, but let's look at what we did know for a fact prior to the sacking of the consulate and determine if having no Marines, no bullet-proof windows, no threat assessment, and no real security other than locks on the doors was indeed adequate…

1. We'll start with what is the most underreported fact of this entire episode: the fact that this very same consulate had been targeted and attacked just a few months earlier, on June 6, in retaliation for a drone strike on a top al-Qaeda operative:

 U.S. mission in Benghazi attacked to avenge al Qaeda

The United States diplomatic office in the Libyan city of Benghazi was attacked Tuesday night, the embassy in the capital Tripoli said Wednesday.

A Libyan security source told CNN a jihadist group that is suspected of carrying out the strike, the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades, left leaflets at the scene claiming the attack was in retaliation for the death of Libyan al Qaeda No. 2 Abu Yahya al Libi.

"Fortunately, no one was injured" in the improvised explosive device attack, the embassy said.

2. It was the eleventh anniversary of 9/11, a date that should mean heightened security regardless of what our intelligence says. 

3. In the days just prior to the Benghazi attack (September 9 and 10), al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri….

….posted a 42-minute video on Jihadist forums urging Libyans to attack Americans to avenge the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi, the terror organization’s second-in-command, whom U.S. drones killed in June of 2012 in Pakistan.

In the video, al-Zawahri said al-Libi’s “blood is calling, urging and inciting you to fight and kill the Crusaders,” leading up to a date heralded and celebrated by radical Islamists.

Another version of the video was actually posted on YouTube on September 9[.]

4. Just a couple of months prior to the Benghazi attack….

…an unclassified report published in August that fingers Qumu as a key al Qaeda operative in Libya. The report (“Al Qaeda in Libya: A Profile”) was prepared by the research division of the Library of Congress (LOC) under an agreement with the Defense Department’s Combating Terrorism Technical Support Office.

The report details al Qaeda’s plans for Libya, including the growth of a clandestine terrorist network that has attempted to hide its presence. The U.S military has concluded that al Qaeda is in the final phase of a three-step process for developing a full-blown al Qaeda affiliate.

5. Our assassinated Ambassador, Christopher Stevens, feared al-Qaeda's growing influence in Libya and  believed he was on a hit list.

6. Sean Smith, one of our diplomats killed along with Stevens, also feared for his life prior to the attack:

One of the American diplomats killed Tuesday in a bloody attack on a Libyan Consulate told pals in an online gaming forum hours earlier that he'd seen suspicious people taking pictures outside his compound and wondered if he and his team might "die tonight." …

But hours before the bloody assault, Smith sent a message to Alex Gianturco, the director of "Goonswarm," Smith's online gaming team or "guild."

“Assuming we don’t die tonight,” the message, which was first reported by Wired, read. “We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.”

Within hours of posting that message, Smith, a husband and father of two, was dead. Gianturco, who could not be reached for further comment, got the word out to fellow gamers, according to Wired.

What we have here are six concrete, non-speculative red flags that indicated our consulate and Ambassador were in danger, vulnerable to attack, and targets.

To justify a lack of adequate security, the Obama administration spent a week blaming the attack on a "spontaneous" demonstration they  couldn’t have possibly predicted would occur. We now know that's simply not true. But here are two more justifications we were told:

1. CNN Sept 21: Clinton says Stevens was not worried about being hit by al-qaeda:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Thursday she has "absolutely no information or

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/29/Benghazi-Gate-Timeline-What%20Government-Knew-What-they-Said


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
Questions on Benghazi

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Where is CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus? He seems to be the missing man in the unfolding Benghazi debacle. It is his agency, among others, which is being fingered by the White House for getting the Libya attack wrong. However, we know that within a very short time after the murder of our ambassador (an extraordinary occurrence) and others, our intelligence community did have the story straight: This was an organized al-Qaeda attack. Is he to preside over a witchhunt? Or is he, who to date has been one of the most respected national security officials, going to be instrumental in shining light on the Libya fiasco and thereby truly serving the national interest and the memory of those killed?

That’s one of the many pending questions bubbling over in the Libya scandal. But we finally be getting some answers. On Friday Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) announced that the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee will hold hearings on the Benghazi debacle. Those hearings can’t come a moment too soon. The questions are multiplying:

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3. Was the White House aware of the August Library of Congress report documenting the deteriorating security situation in Libya?

4. Was the Libya security situation included in any presidential briefings?

5. Did the CIA within a day or so determine there had been a planned terrorist attack? What did it do with this information? Why did President Obama continue to insist the attack was a spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim movie?

6. When did the president learn there was no mob in Benghazi protesting the film?

7. Who reviewed the president’s U.N. speech delivered on Sept. 25, wherein he continued to connect the attack and the anti-Muslim film?

8. When was the State Department’s Charlene Lamb, who followed the attack in real time, questioned about what she knew? Who did that, and what happened to that information?



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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/questions-on-benghazi/2012/10/13/8179efc0-1533-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_blog.html



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:27:03 PM

Libyan Ambassador’s Death Not a Political Issue, Says Dad


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Stevens, a registered Democrat, said he isn’t politically active. He declined to say how he’ll vote in the presidential election.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-14/libyan-ambassador-s-death-not-a-political-issue-says-dad.html

Pretty much all you need to know about Dad.  You know if this wasn't hurting 0 and hurting Romney instead it would be all OK with the left.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 14, 2012, 05:44:38 PM
He's right.  It isn't about politics.  It's about incompetence.


Libyan Ambassador’s Death Not a Political Issue, Says Dad


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-14/libyan-ambassador-s-death-not-a-political-issue-says-dad.html

Pretty much all you need to know about Dad.  You know if this wasn't hurting 0 and hurting Romney instead it would be all OK with the left.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 14, 2012, 05:56:49 PM
What Did Hillary Tell Obama on 9/11?

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Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb testified that on September 11, after the “full-scale assault” in Libya — “unprecedented in its size and intensity” — began about 9:40 p.m. Libyan time (4:40 p.m. Washington time), she was “in our Diplomatic Security Command Center [in Washington] monitoring multiple open lines with our agents [in Libya] for much of the attack.”

On Friday, a CNN reporter asked Hillary Clinton what she was doing as the attack occurred, and Clinton responded with a 400-word answer that avoided the question. Here was the colloquy:

    QUESTION: … could you tell us a little bit about what you were doing when that attack actually happened? I know Charlene Lamb, who as the State Department official, was mentioning that she back here in Washington was monitoring electronically from that post what was happening in real time. Could you tell us what you were doing? Were you watching? Were you talking with the President? Any details about that, please.

    SECRETARY CLINTON: … I think that it is very important to recognize that we have an investigation going on. [Blah, blah for 222 words]. So that’s what an investigative process is designed to do: to try to sort through all of the information, some of it contradictory and conflicting. [Blah, blah for 76 words]. So I’m going to be, as I have been from the very beginning, cooperating fully with the investigations that are ongoing, because nobody wants to know more about what happened and why than I do. And I think I’ll leave it at that.

    QUESTION: Mrs. Secretary, if you could, the question was –

    SECRETARY CLINTON: I know, but I’m going to leave it at that.

Later on Friday, the State Department spokesperson was asked why Clinton hadn’t answered, and provided this response:

    As you know, she’s not that interested in focusing on herself. But obviously, she was here very late that night. She was getting regular updates from both the DS

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/10/14/what-did-hillary-tell-obama-on-911/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 14, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
Hillary is going to drop a dime on her boss.  I just hope she does it before the election.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 14, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
I thought Hillary was in jeopardy from the second I saw susan rice on all of the sunday news shows peddling the administration's line of BS.  Ambassador to the UN just isn't that high ranking in the grand scheme of things.  It should have been the sec'ty of state in that role, not the UN. Ambassador.

Either Hillary wouldn't parrot the obamite's story, or they didn't trust her enough with the assignment, or she was intentionally shut  out of the issue because the obamites knew that they may have to throw her under the bus.


Title: Re: WEAPONS HUNTING: The Reason for the 9-11 Murders in Libya
Post by: Stan In FL on October 14, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
I think the administration's involvement in Libya has been as bungled and deceitful (if not flat out illegal) as everything else these little creeps have creeps have touched since the God forsaken day they seized power.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 12:41:23 PM
British firm secured Benghazi consulate contract with little experience

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Sources have told the Daily Telegraph that just five unarmed locally hired Libyans were placed on duty at the compound on eight-hour shifts under a deal that fell outside the State Department's global security contracting system.

Blue Mountain, the Camarthen firm that won a $387,000 (£241,000) one year contract from the US State Department to protect the compound in May, sent just one British employee, recruited from the celebrity bodyguard circuit, to oversee the work.

The compound was overrun by a mob of Islamic extremists on the morning of September 12 in an apparent planned attack that resulted in the death by asphyxiation of the ambassador, Chris Stevens.

Blue Mountain, which is run by a former member of the SAS, received paper work to operate in Libya last year following the collapse of Col Muammar Gaddafi's regime. It worked on short term contacts to guard an expatriate housing compound and a five-star hotel in Tripoli before landing the prestigious US deal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9607958/British-firm-secured-Benghazi-consulate-contract-with-little-experience.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 12:43:11 PM
'Within 24 Hours': When U.S. Intel in Libya Told Washington 9/11/12 Was Terror Attack

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Schieffer challenged Graham to explain where he go the information to challenge the credibility of the administration's statements about what happened in Libya.

"Where did you get this information that led you to this conclusion?" asked Schieffer. "Did you talk to officials there? Did you talk to people in the CIA? Did you talk to people in the administration? How are you so convinced of what you have just stated?"

Graham said that the U.S. intelligence commmunity in Libya had told both him and Sen. Bob Corker (R.-Tenn.) that they had informed Washington within 24 hours that the attack in was a terrorist attack.

"The intelligence community on the ground in Libya has told Senators Corker and myself that within 24 hours, they communicated up to Washington that this was a terrorist attack," said Graham. "The president of Libya on the same date said it was a terrorist attack. The video of the compound shows that there was nobody at the Benghazi consulate. There was never a group to riot. And the evidence is overwhelming, and the idea that it was spawned by a video and a riot would hold the administration blameless. They said it was a copycat of Cairo. It wasn`t a copycat, it was a sustained attack that lasted for six or eight hours using heavy weapons, which undercut the idea that al Qaeda has been dismantled and on the run. And it certainly undercuts the idea that our policy choices in Libya have not going after the militia, not helping the Libyans train a national army were good choices.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/within-24-hours-when-us-intel-libya-told-washington-91112-was-terror-attack


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
Pants On Fire: Obama Scrambles For Cover As Benghazi Lie Explodes

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Those attacks began in April when two Libyans threw an improvised explosive device into the consulate compound. In June, postings on a pro-Gaddafi Facebook page encouraged Libyans to attack Ambassador Stevens during one of his early morning runs around Tripoli. And in the weeks leading up to September 11th, Libyan guards were being warned by their family members to quit their consulate jobs because of rumors about an impending attack. These are but a few of the escalating series of incidents. There were also carjackings, shoot-outs, and even a rocket-propelled grenade being shot at a convoy carrying the British ambassador.

It is now evident that al-Qaeda hit four, not just one, embassies last month, with none of the other three ever attributable to a video either. The Weekly Standard reports that in addition to the American Consulate in Libya, terrorists tied to the same group that attacked our homeland on 9/11 were also behind U.S. Embassy sieges in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen. All were timed around the 9/11 anniversary.

One of the most ironic and inexcusable aspects of the fatal Benghazi tragedy is that Ambassador Stevens, who after recognizing and communicating the special 9/11 security threat, was denied protection he requested. Yet remarkably, Vice President Joe Biden claimed during last Thursday’s debate that the administration was unaware of security requests. This seemingly contradicted evidence presented to the Congressional Oversight and Government Reform Committee just a day earlier. Biden said “We weren’t told they wanted more security, we did not know they wanted more security.”  But if so, why wouldn’t the president, vice president and secretary of state have been be briefed?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/10/14/pants-on-fire-obama-scrambles-for-cover-as-benghazi-lie-explodes/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 02:51:11 PM
Hillary: Benghazi After 9/11/12 Attack Was 'Inspiring Sight'

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“Tens of thousands of Libyans poured into the streets to mourn Ambassador Stevens who had been a steadfast champion of their revolution” in the days following the Benghazi attack,” Clinton said. “You saw the signs. One read: ‘Thugs and killers don’t represent Benghazi or Islam.’"

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hillary-benghazi-after-91112-attack-was-inspiring-sight

Delusional....Hillary the haj is 10 or so days away. Why don't you show up with a drink in your hand and see what Islam really is.



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 02:52:43 PM
Hillary: Benghazi After 9/11/12 Attack Was 'Inspiring Sight'

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hillary-benghazi-after-91112-attack-was-inspiring-sight

Delusional....Hillary the haj is 10 or so days away. Why don't you show up with a drink in your hand and see what Islam really is.


Oh Hillary defending Islam.......our Secretary of State. Just makes me want to hurl.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 15, 2012, 05:07:28 PM
Mark Steyn: Hillary Clinton used Libyan ambassador’s dead body ‘as prop to peddle a false narrative’




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“Hillary Clinton stood next to her friend Chris’ coffin and went on about this video, even though she knew it was nothing to do with that,” Steyn continued. “Aside from anything else, it’s a wonderful example of how shriveling and corrupting politics is — that in the end, her great friend Chris, his coffin, his body, assuming they’re not lying to us about the body being in there. They lost that, along with all the names of those in Benghazi who are assisting the United States consulate there. Assuming she’s not lying to us about the body being in there, she used his body as prop to peddle a false narrative.”


http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/13/mark-steyn-hillary-clinton-used-libyan-ambassadors-dead-body-as-prop-to-peddle-a-false-narrative/

 With this regime you really have to wonder....was the body really in the coffin?  The father said he was going to have a memorial service for Chris. Not a funeral. At worse I think the state dept has keep the body so family wont know how he died and what happened to him after or before he died. Same with the rest of the body's.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 16, 2012, 02:16:02 PM
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 16, 2012, 02:34:19 PM
I have studiously avoided those tasteless damn pictures of the ambassador, and I wish to hell that I hadn't run into them here


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 16, 2012, 05:36:52 PM
I have studiously avoided those tasteless damn pictures of the ambassador, and I wish to hell that I hadn't run into them here
I have avoided posting until now. I made a decision and am sorry to upset you.  I just think right now people need to know what happened that day to Mr Stevens. The MSM would have those photos all over the place had it been anyone else in power other than Obama.  The president and his administration are the reason Stevens body was paraded through the streets.  I just think you cannot hide that fact. I stand by my decision.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 16, 2012, 05:38:27 PM
Obama camp: ‘President Obama takes responsibility’ for Benghazi

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President Obama’s campaign spokeswoman said that he “takes responsibility” for the security of U.S. diplomats, less than a day after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took the blame.

“President Obama takes responsibility for the safety and security of all diplomats serving overseas,” said Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki on Fox News today. “Secretary Clinton of course has a great amount of responsibility as Secretary of State.”

Psaki denied that Clinton’s remarks were a “coordinated roll-out” to shelter Obama ahead of the debate, as Fox’s Shepard Smith suggested.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-camp-president-obama-takes-responsibility-for-benghazi/article/2510923?custom_click=rss#.UH3RIWdzddi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 16, 2012, 07:03:03 PM
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By Obama standards, it's been his team's finest hour.

The White House and Obama's media cohort believe they now have the Benghazi consulate attack story under control. They have, they think, established two foundation points of the narrative that relieve Obama of any responsibility for the events and their aftermath.

The two points are, first, that the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and three others were the result of bad decisions by low-level people in the State Department, not bad policy choices by Obama. The second point is that by doing nothing about the attack -- leaving it to the FBI to investigate and Libya to prosecute the perpetrators in non-existent Libyan courts -- is preferable to doing anything like, well, turning whatever terrorist cells we can find in Libya into smoking holes in the ground. Both points are patently false.

To say that the deaths of the four Americans aren't the result of Obama's bad policy choices is such a quantum leap over fact and logic that it requires us to spend a microsecond resetting our brains before responding. Let's start with the fact that none of the four would have been in Libya had Obama not chosen to follow Nicolas Sarkozy into war there despite the advice of then-defense secretary Robert Gates that we had no national security interest there.

If we hadn't intervened, it's not likely that the small and not very capable French-British force would have been able to topple Gaddafi, so there would have been no U.S. ambassador in Libya, nor would his staffer have been there to be murdered with him.

And if we hadn't intervened, there would have been no need to send the two former SEALs who were killed into Libya to try to locate the thousands of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles Gaddafi had which have now gone missing. The four men's deaths were a proximate result of Obama's decision to intervene.

The second bad policy choice by Obama is the one that led to the cover-up that is exploding in Obama's face. Obama has chosen to prostitute U.S. foreign policy on the bed of the so-called "Arab spring." Obama would have the world believe that the toppling of the Egyptian and Libyan governments of Mubarak and Gaddafi are leading to an outburst of Jeffersonian democracy in the Middle East, the Arab nations blooming with freedoms hitherto unknown

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/10/16/benghazigate


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: GeronL on October 16, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Since the words are meaningless, expect Obama to mouth the words "I take full responsibility" for the Benghazi situation and the MSM will praise him to the hilt.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 17, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
cramdy crowlady saved obama's ass on this question last night.  mittens was moving in for the kill, and cramdy used her weight advantage to throw a block that obama used to wriggle off the hook.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 17, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
cramdy crowlady saved obama's ass on this question last night.  mittens was moving in for the kill, and cramdy used her weight advantage to throw a block that obama used to wriggle off the hook.
yes it was awful.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 17, 2012, 07:26:36 PM
More evidence of deception

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President Obama’s attempts to wriggle free from his own words and actions on Libya are making things worse.

American Crossroads, taking exception to Obama’s announcement last night that he really had declared Benghazi to be an act of terrorism, has sent out a memo, which reads:

    The President clearly misled the American people with this claim, because if Obama’s Rose Garden speech was indeed the White House position, it did not inform any subsequent statement by the White House press office — and was even directly contradicted by his own spokesman several days later.

    On September 20 — eight days after Obama claims to have called the Benghazi attack an “act of terror” — Jay Carney affirmed to reporters that the White House had never called it “a terrorist attack.”

    From the gaggle on Air Force One, en route to Miami, 9/20/2012:

    Q: Can you — have you called it a terrorist attack before? Have you said that?

    MR. CARNEY: I haven’t, but — I mean, people attacked our embassy. It’s an act of terror by definition.

    Q: Yes, I just hadn’t heard you —

    MR. CARNEY: It doesn’t have to do with what date it occurred.

    Q: No, I just hadn’t heard the White House say that this was an act of terrorism or a terrorist attack. And I just —

    MR. CARNEY: I don’t think the fact that we hadn’t is not — as our NCTC Director testified yesterday, a number of different elements appear to have been involved in the attack, including individuals connected to militant groups that are prevalent in eastern Libya, particularly in the Benghazi area. We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda’s affiliates, in particular al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

    Here, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney actually affirmed Gov. Romney’s position that the White House did not call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism. Carney also said the now infamous video “precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi” the day before.

The memo goes on to argue that Obama’s position on Libya is “untenable.” That’s about the shape of things. Did he call it an act of terror and go around misleading the country for two weeks that it was a spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim movie? Or did he not call it terror on Sept. 12 and lie to the voters last night?

There is another problem with Obama’s response. Recall this part of his answer: “So as soon as we found out that the Benghazi Consulate was being overrun, I was on the phone with my national security team, and I gave them three instructions. Number one, beef up our security and — and — and procedures not just in Libya but every embassy and consulate in the region. Number two, investigate exactly what happened, regardless of where the facts lead us, to make sure that folks are held accountable and it doesn’t happen again. And number three, we are going to find out who did this, and we are going to hunt them down, because one of the things that I’ve said throughout my presidency is when folks mess with Americans, we go after them”

So there was no actual meeting of the National Security Council at which everyone could share information and get on the same page? (David Axelrod has refused to say.) It doesn’t sound like it. But you know Obama was busy that day — flying to Las Vegas for a campaign event. So really, why have a meeting? Well, the weeks of confusion and dissembling that followed should answer that.

Moreover, if he actually did instruct his team to heighten protection for the Libya Consulate, why was the consulate left unsecured so that CNN

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/more-evidence-of-deception/2012/10/17/2a4a26c6-1870-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_blog.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 18, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
Feinstein: Intelligence Mistake, Inadequate Security To Blame For Libyan Terror Attack

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AN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — The head of the U.S. Senate’s Intelligence Committee said Wednesday that it appeared an intelligence mistake along with inadequate security were to blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the American Embassy in Benghazi, Libya that claimed the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens, a Bay Area native, and three others.

“I can tell you this, I think we do know what happened now. There’s no question but that it was a terrorist attack, there is no question but that the security was inadequate and I think that there is no question that we need to work on our intelligence,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) during an exclusive interview with CBS 5.

Feinstein’s comments came one day after a spirited back-and-forth exchange between President Barack Obama and challenger Mitt Romney in their second debate over the assault on the consulate. Romney claimed the attack was a symptom of weakness in Obama’s foreign policy.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/17/feinstein-intelligence-flaw-lax-security-to-blame-for-libyan-terror-attack/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 18, 2012, 04:58:46 PM
faulty intelligence didn't keep candidate (or senator) obama from sliming the hell out of george bush.  so, it shouldn't save president obama.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 18, 2012, 08:00:03 PM
Col David Hunt transcript: Real-Time Proof of Benghazi Negligence and Cover-up

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Carr: Colonel Hunt, thanks for being with us again today. What did you think when you heard Joseph Biden talking ragtime right out of the box last night?

HUNT - The second time in my public career I get to call a public figure a liar --- that’s what I thought. Joseph Biden, right off the bat, lied.

He said that what happened in Libya recently… The administration looked so inept is because of an intelligence failure.

Howie, When Pakistan blew up an atomic bomb, and we didn’t know about it, that was an intelligence failure. When 9/11 happened, that was an intelligence failure. When India blew up an atomic bomb and we didn’t know about it, that was an intelligence failure.

When the Iraqi military lined up on the Kuwaiti border, and we didn't see it coming – didn’t know they were attacking until they did it, that’s an intelligence failure.

This is a flat leadership problem.

What happened is that a woman named Lamb, Undersecretary of State for DSS (Department of State Security), 2 days ago, told Issa's committee that she listened, was talking to, and recorded an almost six hour fight that resulted in the death of four Americans. She was at the State Department's Operations Center in Foggy Bottom in DC.

When that happens, there are a bunch of people that get informed. President of the US gets found---- the embassy is being attacked---Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Director of CIA, and on and on.

What also happens is that their command centers, National Command Center (CIA), White House Situation Room--- twelve [Command Centers] that I won't bore you with. At least twelve separate Command Centers are listening to the same conversation. It went on for six hours. The question I think, besides the fact that Biden is lying about it, is Why didn't we do anything? Why didn't the United States government react?

Here we are, listening to an attack, and we didn't do a thing. We've got aircraft in Europe, aircraft in the in the Gulf, and we have the capability of doing something, and we did nothing. But for the Vice President...My point is everybody, from the moment the attack happened, in our government, and the decision-making capability, knew that it was an attack, that it was organized, that it was violent, and that it had nothing, nothing to do with a riot, an assembly of people, or a film.

This was not even close to an intelligence failure. This was prescient, actionable information. And this woman testified to it, and everyone's giving everyone a pass.

We sat by and watched the Embassy fall, and four Americans died.

Carr: Who was on the radio in the consulate in Benghazi?

HUNT: Department of State Security employee -- a DSS agent was at the operation center in Benghazi. They had a room with radios and cameras. And he makes the call; he punches the alert button. Does everything correct and calls his boss in DC.

Then he describes the attack for the whole time, until that the command center is overcome. But when she [Lamb] gets the phone call….

Carr: He's killed. He's killed. He's at the radio when he gets killed. Is that right?

HUNT: The radio stays open. It's still being recorded until it gets destroyed.

Lamb, who is in DC listening to all of this--- Clinton gets called, the President gets called, the Joint Chiefs---everybody gets called about this. This is an embassy under attack. Period. It's an automatic phone call.

And the fact that we have this recording, instantly. We know exactly the picture. By the way, he sent pictures back because he had cameras.

So, the administration knew; they watched it, let it happen, and then for eight days lied about it. And then yesterday, last night, unfortunately, the Vice President of the US just lied. He knows it was not an intelligence failure. No one ever said that, by the way. This is a case where we have information and didn't act. It wasn't a case where we weren’t provided [info]. We had instant knowledge, accurate description, and just sat by and did nothing.

Carr: You said there were a dozen posts listening to this play by play account.

HUNT: Sure

Carr: Just give me a few examples of what kind of agencies would have been involved in this listening or monitoring.

HUNT: National Military Command Center in the Pentagon (that's the military head), the White House Situation Room, the CIA Operations Center, the Counterterrorism Center, EUCON (European Command). Africa Command, Special Operations Command, SOC-EUR [?] Special Operations Command Europe), Atlantic Command, NATO. Everybody.

Once this call is made, and a button is pushed, saying, oh by the way, we have an attack going on, everybody listens in --- this is old tech, an old procedure that’s been going on for years. Anybody who has ever been on a watch listening in the military knows what I am talking about. And it is amazing to me that this is not even being discussed. It is the elephant in the living room for me. We knew this was going on and did nothing.

Carr: Let's say, let's say there's the African Command and some sergeant is monitoring it, and you know, he's there and he listens to what's going on, and he says, captain come over and listen to this. And the captain listens to it, and I guess the captain would have to call his superior officer, right? And then at some point , wouldn't all these people be calling the Pentagon or the State Department in Foggy Bottom and say, Hey there's a problem in Benghazi. What are we gonna do?

HUNT: Within minutes that happens. It's instantaneous notification of an entire chain of command. An embassy is under attack and falling.

And oh, by the way, turn to channel 27, and here's the information. And then these separate places are asking for – some cases begging for--- guidance. What do you want us to do? Because the military guys, whether it's in Bahrain or Europe, or any place else, can't on their own just go in there, but we have the means available. The point is that nobody pushed the button to say "GO." Nobody had the guts. Nobody cared enough. Six hours, Howie [Carr].

The last time this happened was Mogadishu, when we stood by and watched a ten hour fire fight go on and did nothing. For ten hours that happened, during the Clinton administration. We watched this in Bosnia ....and other places, where an administration fails to act.

But this one. To have the vice president this late in the game --- over four weeks since this has happened---to lie about it and to say it was an intelligence failure is outrageous. And nobody, nobody caught him, nobody backed him up. And it's hardly being mentioned at all, but it's, I think, very serious. And what you said yesterday I think is going to come to pass. This is going to turn out to be a Watergate-sized scandal.

Carr: So you think you think some of these commands in the area or in Europe and elsewhere that they actually did go to the their civilian superiors in Washington or made contact with them and asked them what do you want us to do. And apparently there was no response?

HUNT: Howie, there are digital and written logs that will be produced that will show that each one of these places, automatically---it is not a question of, Do you have a choice. Whoever is on the watch; whoever was in command center, when an incident like this happens, HAS to do certain things, inform certain people, and it's all logged in. It's a matter of record.

So once Lamb testified that she's listening to this, what she just said was that our entire Government was listening, not just Lamb and the State Dept. What I realized when I read the testimony and heard it was that if this phone call actually happened, all of these other headquarters were involved, and a whole bunch of people said NO to wanting some kind of attack to help save Benghazi. That begins and ends at the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. And there's logs, and hopefully Congress will say, We want people to testify. We want the watch officer. We want the senior guy in charge there. Bring you records, and tell us who you talked to. It’s all procedural…

Carr: Is it the Pentagon's fault, or is it the State Department's fault?

HUNT: No, no, no. State and the White House. The National Military Command Center would not have been able, allowed, to launch---I don't believe---an attack without political permission because they would be launching into a country. I don't think the NMCC could make that call on their own. And it wouldn't be State; it would be the White House.

But again, Howie, during this attack, Clinton is informed---that is part of the procedure---and the President of the US is informed, as is the Vice President, as is the Chief of Staff, and on and on. A six hour firefight in Benghazi is not classified. It is not a secret. It's an event, and it's a serious event. And when the ambassador dies, when they know he has been captured, it even goes up higher. And we couldn't get an FBI team in there for three weeks.

We had CNN reporters in there picking up the Ambassador's diary. This was ineptness, incompetence, and lying. I think Biden ought to be called on it, just like we did with Clinton when she said she was being shot at. People were there Mr. Vice President. You are lying. This was not an intelligence failure, and he knows that.

Carr: Who should have made the call? Who should have ordered the troops? Who should have ordered some kind of scrambling? send in the jets, helicopters, Marines?

HUNT: The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs could have easily called the Secretary of Defense. The Secretary of Defense could have done this, easily…Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff. Howie, they are never out of contact with each other. It's not like, Oh, go find Leon Panetta or where’s the President?

Anyone in that chain, from the Secretary of State…could have asked or told the Dept of Defense, We need help in Benghazi now. What are the closest assets we have? That’s a simple phone call. Just simple operation military can do that, but they never would have done that on their own.

There are incidents in our lifetime where we wish we would we had done it on our own. Bosnia is just one of them. Africa, remember the Congo, and a whole bunch of other places where we didn’t. But this is an example where we watched four Americans die and a consulate fall. We had 320 incidents leading up to this, and while the attack was going on for 6 hours, we watched it. Not just Ms Lamb, but the entire operational arm of the US government was watching and listening to this, and we did nothing.

Carr: Where are the reporters? This is like Watergate.

HUNT: Yes

Carr: When Watergate broke, every newspaper in the country, every network in the country was all over this. Now, it Daryl Issa and Jason Chafetz, and a few Republican congressmen and staffers. Where are the reporters? Are they too busy looking for somebody Mitt Romney gave a haircut to when he was in prep school?

HUNT: I can’t answer that, but for me, they are so in the bag. And, by the way, this is so obvious…this is such an obvious thing, that it is being missed. If the operational center at the State Dept is hearing this, all these other operational commands are hearing this as well.

Carr: So there's got to be a lot of people reporters could talk to---there’s people who are assigned to the Pentagon---they haven't had that many cutbacks. There's got to be people who know what happened that could provide them with the documentation and the records, and it wouldn't take long to blow the story out of the water.

HUNT: It should have been blown out two days ago. I’m not the only one who thinks this is crazy thinking about this. Any guy who’s ever pulled watch, any NCO, any enlisted officer---anybody who’s ever been in these Command Centers knows exactly what I’m talking about.

And, Howie, this is after 911. Fifteen years ago we did this. And since 911, since we’ve been at war for eleven years, in Afghanistan, our communications is staggeringly quick. Look at the White House situation room during the killing of Bin Laden.

Carr: And it's and it is the anniversary of 9/11 that this is all happening on. You’d think they'll be even more on their toes.

HUNT: Yes. The communications is sophisticated and instantaneous. They had satellites looking at this.

Carr: They had drones…there was a drone looking at this, right?

HUNT: Thank you. And our reaction---three weeks…. We’ve got an ambassador dead, two retired Navy Seals, who weren’t even assigned there---they were assigned to a classified annex down the street--- and another man. And the place is decimated for six hours, and our response is zero.

And then the Vice President gets on, and the first words out of his mouth is a lie --- Well, it’s an intelligence failure. No, it is not, Mr. Vice President. It’s not even close to an intelligence failure. This was inaction on the part of your administration who watched this guy die and did nothing.

I don’t know what they are investigating, it’s so… My only concern is…Well, there’s too people, just too many people that were watching this. I honestly don’t see how they get to cover this up, unless the press doesn’t do its job.

But I didn’t even hear Issa’s committee ask her [Lamb] the question. Maybe the people were in shock when Lamb made her statement, but that’s staggering.

I can't believe that people don't know what I'm saying… that all these other….

Carr: This like something out of a movie, where some non-com says, “Colonel, colonel, our men are getting slaughtered there.” And no one has any interest in following it up.

It seems like fiction; it doesn’t seem like it would happen in real life.

HUNT: It's happened a lot in my time, unfortunately. Like I said, we saw it in the Congo: we saw it in Bosnia. We've seen a lot of incidents where an organization will not act. It’s frozen, and this is the case. And that sergeant you are talking about is actually a general. This is immediately communicated that this embassy is under attack violently, and generals are looking on their IPADS at the pictures, and that’s how good this stuff is. Those images are all over the place. And we knew this was bad, getting worse, and did nothing, and then lied about it for 8 days?

Carr: So how many people do you know…

HUNT: -- Rice’s statement now, along with the President’s, by the way, and the Secretary of State’s and everybody else, there’s a bunch of people lying. It’s not just Rice. She just got stuck on the Sunday news 5 times. And everybody, on top….[interrupted by Carr]

Carr: How many people actually---give me a number of people who knew what was going on while it was happening, or all around the world. How many people would have known?

HUNT: Oh, it’s in the hundreds---those staffs---anywhere---NMCC, maybe 60-70 people at one time; CIA Operations Center, about forty plus; the Terrorism Center could have 60-70 on duty at that moment: the White House situation room, 12. It goes on and on. I mean it's hundreds of people, Howie, that knew what was going on at the time---not later.

It's to me such a huge thing that maybe it’s just so big and so obvious that people are just letting it go. I have no explanation for it.

Except what I'm telling you is not a revelation. This is day-to-day operational information that this administration has been lying about for all this time.

You don't need an investigation. There are straight up procedures that, I promise you. were followed. And in those procedures, people like the Sec of State, the Pres of the US---within minutes---within minutes are told, We have an embassy under attack.

Carr: And yet Stephanie Cutter says that this is just a political issue that’s being blown out of proportion by the Romney/Ryan campaign.

HUNT: I wish this was being blown out of proportion by the press.

Romney was right when he said it. it's a very, very awkward defense. Cutter’s a PR person

But the vice president---people have to call him out on this.

He should, not should, he does know better. He’s just lying. It’s the second time I have had to call a public figure a liar….

It's outrageous. We had people dying. And, by the way Howie, it’s not just one phone call. During the six hours, all of these decision makers are being updated by their staffs. General, this just happened. General, we just found out this guy died. The fight’s still going on. There are now 60 people---these are constant. Video, written, digital, audio updates to the chain of command that did not function. It just seized up. That to me---Why did it seize up? Because there are a whole bunch of people need to go to jail….[Carr interrupts]

Carr: Surely there was somebody --- surely there must have been several people trying to get something done, trying to get some relief to the these people that were in mortal peril, right?

HUNT: Of course; there are really good people in these organizations. Why the decision was not made to, at least, attempt to do a flyover, to put jets in the air, Marines moving, something. I don’t know. I don’t have an answer for it. I’ve been in those rooms when decisions were not made, and they were always political, as to why they were not being done. But this, this one….Our capability to record things is so sophisticated, this will come out.

I just…No news organization has---because I have talked to a couple of them --- has gone on this angle. They are still going on the Romney vs Obama, versus Biden laughing too much. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute. How about he lied--- in his opening remark. He flat lied. It was not an intelligence failure. That a lie, and he knows better. He knows it wasn’t an intelligence failure. He’s been in the government, what, for 40 years?

Carr: Yea, 40 years.

HUNT: Like I said, Pakistan blowing up a nuke, that was an intelligence failure. 911, big intelligence failure. What happened in Benghazi was an operational, leadership failure on an entire government chain of command. It did not act and had six hours to do so and did nothing.

Carr: It certainly seems like it's gonna come out if they have the former head of the CIA and Michael Chertoff and these guys issuing statements today saying that Biden was way out of line, and he lied, and he knows better. These guys can point any reporter that’s interested in the right direction, who to talk to to get the information, I would think it.

HUNT: It’s a huge…. Howie, standard operating procedures of how our government operates---There’s books, huge, huge books. And every one of these Commands I have mentioned was on that call, was listening, and followed their procedures, and were never given the words to go. It never happened. That’s all…It’s simple. It’s a very simple question and a very straightforward answer. I talked to this General: I talked to this Secretary. The Sec of Defense said this. The Chief of Staff at the WH said this. It’s not hard. This is all recorded.

And somebody needs to explain why, for all this time---6 hours went by and Americans died---and all this time for the FBI to get there, and, oh by the way, Why is it that the heads of our government are lying about this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://d24edc7kaf4agn.cloudfront.net/3650/rhiDownloadVariant/10-12-col-hunt.mp3?rhihttphost=audio.wrko.com


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 12:17:25 PM

How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria



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The official position is that the US has refused to allow heavy weapons into Syria.

But there's growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens' life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, "met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey" in an effort

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10#ixzz29lKTHm4d


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 01:05:11 PM
CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

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WASHINGTON The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

It is unclear who, if anyone, saw the cable outside the CIA at that point and how high up in the agency the information went.

The Obama administration maintained publicly for a week that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was a result of the mobs that staged less-deadly protests across the Muslim world around the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks on the U.S.

Those statements have become highly charged political fodder as the presidential election approaches. A Republican-led House committee questioned State Department officials for hours about what GOP lawmakers said was lax security at the consulate, given the growth of extremist Islamic militants in North Africa.

And in their debate on Tuesday, President Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney argued over when Obama first said it was a terror attack. In his Rose

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57535773/cia-saw-possible-terror-ties-day-after-libya-hit-ap/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 02:55:53 PM

Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack




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Across 166 pages of internal State Department documents -- released Friday by a pair of Republican congressmen pressing the Obama administration for more answers on the Benghazi terrorist attack -- slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died.

On Sept. 11 -- the day Stevens and three other Americans were killed -- the ambassador signed a three-page cable, labeled "sensitive," in which he noted "growing problems with security" in Benghazi and "growing frustration" on the part of local residents with Libyan police and security forces.  These forces the ambassador characterized as "too weak to keep the country secure." 

In the document, Stevens also cited a meeting he had held two days earlier with local militia commanders.  These men boasted to Stevens of exercising "control" over the Libyan Armed Forces, and threatened that if the U.S.-backed candidate for prime minister were to prevail in Libya's internal political jockeying, "they would not continue to guarantee security in Benghazi." 

Roughly a month earlier, Stevens had signed a two-page cable, also labeled "sensitive," that he entitled "The Guns of August: Security in Eastern Libya." Writing on Aug. 8, the ambassador noted that in just a few months' time, "Benghazi has moved from trepidation to euphoria and back as a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape." He added, "The individual incidents have been organized," a function of "the security vacuum that a diverse group of independent actors are exploiting

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/19/documents-show-stevens-worried-about-libya-security-threats-al-qaeda-before/#ixzz29lyLHnA9


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
U.S. description of Benghazi attacks, at first cautious, changed after 3 days



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On the day after the attack, transcripts show, senior administration officials, briefing reporters, declined in response to three direct questions to link the Benghazi assaults to protests over the video. One senior official told reporters during the briefing that “unidentified Libyan extremists” launched what was “clearly a complex attack.” The official isn’t named because such briefings typically come on the condition of anonymity.

At campaign stops in Colorado and Nevada the next day, Sept. 13, Obama referred to the Benghazi assault as “an act of terror.” At the State Department press briefing that day, spokeswoman Victoria Nuland was asked directly and repeatedly whether there was a link between the video protests and the attack on the U.S. consulate.

While she mentioned that commentary on social media was making the link “to this reprehensible video,” Nuland emphasized several times that there wasn’t enough information for officials to make that leap, even though some news reports, including those of The New York Times and Agence France Presse, were citing unnamed witnesses in Libya who said that anger over the video was the reason the consulate was targeted.

“We are very cautious about drawing any conclusions with regard to who the perpetrators were, what their motivations were, whether it was premeditated, whether they had any external contacts, whether there was any link, until we have a chance to investigate along with the Libyans,” Nuland said.

That evening, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presided over a State Department reception marking an Islamic holiday; her remarks made no mention of a protest and made only passing reference to reports that listed “inflammatory material posted on the Internet” as a possible motive.

One of the speakers, Ali Suleiman Aujali, the Libyan ambassador to the United States, told Clinton and the other attendees in no uncertain terms that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.

“I hope that this sad incident which happened, this terrorist attack which took place against the American consulate in Libya, it will tell us how much we have to work closely,” Aujali said, according to the official transcript.

The story, however, began to change the next day, Sept. 14.

With images of besieged U.S. missions in the Middle East still leading the evening news, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney became the first official to back away from the earlier declaration that the Benghazi assault was a “complex attack” by extremists. Instead, Carney told reporters, authorities “have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack.” He added that there was no reason to think that the Benghazi attack wasn’t related to the video, given that the clip had sparked protests in many Muslim cities.

“The unrest that we’ve seen around the region has been in reaction to a video that Muslims, many Muslims, find offensive,” Carney said.

When pressed by reporters who pointed out evidence that the violence in Benghazi was preplanned, Carney said that “news reports” had speculated about the motive. He noted again that “the unrest around the region has been in response to this video.”

Carney then launched into remarks that read like talking points in defense of the U.S. decision to intervene in last year’s uprising against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi: that post-Gadhafi Libya, he said, is “one of the more pro-American countries in the region,” that it’s led by a new government “that has just come out of a revolution,” and that the lack of security capabilities there “is not necessarily reflective of anything except for the remarkable transformation that’s been going on in the region.”

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/10/18/171933/obama-administration-officials.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 04:10:59 PM
Libya rescue squad ran into fierce, accurate ambush article date sept 13 2012

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Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:41am IST

* U.S. rescue mission to Benghazi hit by 'professional' ambush

* Two diplomats killed at consulate, two at 'safe' house fight

* Rescue raid for diplomats dogged by miscommunication

By Hadeel Al Shalchi

BENGHAZI, Libya, Sept 12 (Reuters) - A squad of U.S. troops despatched by helicopter across the Libyan desert to rescue besieged diplomats from Benghazi on Wednesday ran into a fierce overnight ambush that left a further two Americans dead, Libyan officials told Reuters.

Accounts of the mayhem at the U.S. consulate, where the ambassador and a fourth American died after a chaotic protest over a film insulting to Islam, remain patchy. But two Libyan officials, including the commander of a security force which escorted the U.S. rescuers, said a later assault on a supposedly safe refuge for the diplomats appeared professionally executed.

Miscommunication which understated the number of American survivors awaiting rescue - there were 37, nearly four times as many as the Libyan commander expected - also meant survivors and rescuers found themselves short of transport to escape this second battle, delaying an eventual dawn break for the airport.

Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, whose special operations unit was ordered by Libya's authorities to meet an eight-man force at Benghazi airport, said that after his men and the U.S. squad had found the American survivors who had evacuated the blazing consulate, the ostensibly secret location in an isolated villa came under an intense and highly accurate mortar barrage.

"I really believe that this attack was planned," he said, adding to suggestions by other Libyan officials that at least some of the hostility towards the Americans was the work of experienced combatants. "The accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any regular revolutionaries."

Obeidi's Libya's Shield Brigade was formed by civilians during last year's U.S.-backed uprising against Muammar Gaddafi and is now part of the ad hoc government militia forces which the fledgling democratic administration uses to keep order.

Other Libyan officials cited the possible involvement of former soldiers still loyal to Gaddafi's family or Islamist fighters, some of whom have trained and fought in Afghanistan.

U.S. officials have noted it was "complex attack". Several Libyan officials and witnesses said an initial demonstration at the consulate appeared to be largely unarmed, though some elements of an Islamist militia were spotted.

At some point, the crowd became incensed, believing they were under attack from within the consulate, many fetched weapons and the consular villa ended up in flames, with most of the Americans fleeing to the safe house after two, including ambassador Christopher Stevens, had been fatally injured.

"RAINING DOWN FIRE"

Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/libya-ambassador-battle-idINL5E8KCMYB20120912



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 05:33:14 PM
Suspect in Libya Attack, in Plain Sight, Scoffs at U.S.

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Libya’s fledgling national army is a “national chicken,” Mr. Abu Khattala said, using an Arabic rhyme. Asked who should take responsibility for apprehending the mission’s attackers, he smirked at the idea that the weak Libyan government could possibly do it. And he accused the leaders of the United States of “playing with the emotions of the American people” and “using the consulate attack just to gather votes for their elections.”

Mr. Abu Khattala’s defiance — no authority has even questioned him about the attack, he said, and he has no plans to go into hiding — offered insight into the shadowy landscape of the self-formed militias that have come to constitute the only source of social order in Libya since the fall of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.

A few, like the militia group Ansar al-Shariah that is linked to Mr. Abu Khattala and that officials in Washington and Tripoli agree was behind the attack, have embraced an extremist ideology hostile to the West and nursed ambitions to extend it over Libya. But also troubling to the United States is the evident tolerance shown by other militias allied with the government, which have so far declined to take any action against suspects in the Benghazi attack.

Although Mr. Abu Khattala said he was not a member of Al Qaeda, he declared he would be proud to be associated with Al Qaeda’s puritanical zeal for Islamic law. And he said that the United States had its own foreign policy to blame for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. “Why is the United States always trying to impose its ideology on everyone else?” he asked. “Why is it always trying to use force to implement its agendas?”

Owing in part to the inability of either the Libyans or the Americans to mount a serious investigation, American dissections of the assault on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi have become muddled in a political debate over the identities and motivations of the attackers. Some Republicans have charged that the Obama administration initially sought to obscure a possible connection to Al Qaeda in order to protect its claim to have brought the group to its knees.

Mr. Abu Khattala, 41, wearing a red fez and sandals, added his own spin. Contradicting the accounts of many witnesses and the most recent account of the Obama administration, he contended that the attack had grown out of a peaceful protest against a video made in the United States that mocked the Prophet Muhammad and Islam

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/world/africa/suspect-in-benghazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&hp


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 19, 2012, 05:34:48 PM
The Libya Lie

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Almost everything we have been told about Libya over the last two years is untrue.

A free Libya was supposed to be proof of President Obama?s enlightened ?reset? Middle East policy. When insurgency broke out there, the United States joined France and Great Britain in bombing Moammar Qaddafi out of power ? and supposedly empowering a democratic Arab Spring regime. Not a single American life was lost.

Libyans, like most in the Arab world, were supposed to appreciate the new, enlightened American foreign policy. Obama?s June 2009 Cairo speech had praised Islam and apologized for the West. A new ?lead from behind? multilateralism was said to have superseded George W. Bush?s neo-imperialist interventions of the past.

Obama?s mixed racial identity and his father?s Muslim heritage would also win over the hearts and minds of Libyans after the Qaddafi nightmare. During this summer?s Democratic convention, Obama supporters trumpeted the successes of his Middle East policy: Osama bin Laden dead, al-Qaeda defanged, and Arab Spring reformers in place of dictators.

To keep that shining message viable until the November election, the Obama administration and the media had been willing to overlook or mischaracterize all sorts of disturbing events. We had asked for a United Nations resolution for humanitarian aid and a no-fly zone to intervene in Libya, but then deliberately exceeded it by bombing Qaddafi?s forces ? after bypassing the U.S. Congress in favor of a go-ahead from the Arab League.

Libya was not so much liberated as descending into the chaos of tribal payback. Former Qaddafi supporters and African mercenaries were executed by those we helped. Islamists began consolidating power, desecrating a British military cemetery and driving out Westerners.

On the eleventh anniversary of 9/11, a radical Islamist hit team with heavy weapons stormed the American consulate in Benghazi, killing Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

In response, White House press secretary Jay Carney, National Intelligence Director James Clapper, and U.N. ambassador Susan Rice desperately insisted that the murders were a one-time, ad hoc demonstration gone awry, without much larger significance. Supposedly, a few Muslim outliers ? inflamed over one American?s anti-Islamic Internet video ? had overreacted and stormed the consulate. Such anger was ?natural,? assured the president.

But why would furor over an obscure, months-old Internet video just happen to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary attack? Do demonstrators customarily bring along rocket-propelled grenades, mortars, and heavy machine guns? Why did the Libyan government attribute the killings to an al-Qaeda affiliate when the Obama administration would not?

Forget those questions: For most of September, desperate administration officials still clung to the myth that the Libyan catastrophe was a result of a single obnoxious video. At the United Nations, the president castigated the uncouth film. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lamented the senseless spontaneous violence that grew out of one American?s excesses, as she spoke beside the returning coffins of the slain Americans.

Nonetheless, more disturbing facts kept emerging: Ambassador Stevens repeatedly had warned his State Department superiors in vain of impending Islamist violence. Security personnel ? to no avail ? had also urged beefing up the protection of the consulate, prompting former regional security officer Eric Nordstrom to say in exasperation that ?the Taliban is on the inside of the building.? Video of the attack revealed that there had been no demonstration at all, but rather a

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/330778


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 20, 2012, 01:20:46 PM
NBC’s David Gregory Calls Obama Admin’s Libya Response ‘Sluggish, Sloppy, And Incoherent’

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During an appearance on NBC’s Today Show Friday morning, Meet the Press host David Gregory called the Obama administration’s response to the September 11th violent attacks in Benghazi, Libya, “sluggish, sloppy, and incoherent at some times.”

Host Savannah Guthrie had asked Gregory to assess each candidate’s chances in next Monday’s foreign policy-focused president debate. Gregory mentioned that Romney had several “missteps” in the previous debate regarding the Libya question, but also noted that Obama is facing criticism for “his talking points on this, on Jon Stewart saying when four Americans are killed it’s ‘not optimal.’”

“There’s still some confusion,” he noted, “about how the administration response on this was both sluggish, sloppy, and incoherent at some times.”

Watch below, via NBC:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-david-gregory-calls-obama-admins-libya-response-sluggish-sloppy-and-incoherent/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 20, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
Incommunicado

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House Armed Services chairman blocked from getting answers from senior military about threat warnings prior to Benghazi consulate attack

The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee is demanding answers from four senior United States military officers about whether there was advance warning of terrorist threats and the need for greater security prior to last month’s terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

However, an aide to the chairman, Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, (R., Calif.), said the office of secretary of defense Leon Panetta blocked the senior officers from providing the answers last night.

“The chairman is disappointed that the administration won’t respond to this basic request for information,” the aide said.

“It is nearly unprecedented that the office of the secretary of defense would prohibit a member of the uniformed military from answering direct questions posed by the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.”

Pentagon spokesman George Little told the Free Beacon: “We received the letters last night and are working expeditiously to provide a response.”

The chairman’s letters are dated Thursday. They were sent to Gen. Carter F. Ham, commander of the U.S. Africa Command, which is responsible for military activities in Africa; Adm. William H. McRaven, commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command; Vice Adm. Kurt W. Tidd, director for operations at the Pentagon’s Joint Staff; and Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn,




http://freebeacon.com/incommunicado/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: Stan In FL on October 20, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
the word is "incompetent".  but someone is going to have to convince me that it isn't criminal.

NBC’s David Gregory Calls Obama Admin’s Libya Response ‘Sluggish, Sloppy, And Incoherent’



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 20, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
US aircraft were near Benghazi during Libya attack but unable to prevent deaths: report

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US drones were in the skies over Benghazi during last month’s fatal attack on US ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, a new report claims.

Defense Department officials weighed sending troops to rescue Stevens and more than 30 other Americans whose compound was surrounded by an angry mob on Sept. 11, says the report by CBS News.

But no US counterattack or rescue effort was carried out.



The drone and other reconnaissance aircraft observed the final hours of the protracted, seven-hour battle at the US Consulate.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/prevent_aircrafts_fatalities_unable_gkgtu0Xh5FU0qwhyQZzJOK


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 20, 2012, 02:51:01 PM
W.H. Tries to Write Al Qaeda Out of Libya Story

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The Obama administration appears to be mounting yet another version of its campaign to push back on claims that it misled on the intelligence related to the attacks in Benghazi on 9/11/12. But the new offensive by the administration, which contradicts many of its earlier claims and simply disregards intelligence that complicates its case, is raising fresh questions in the intelligence community and on Capitol Hill about the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes.
obamaheaddown

The administration's new line takes shape in two articles out Saturday, one in the Los Angeles Times and the other by Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. The Times piece reports that there is no evidence of an al Qaeda role in the attack. The Ignatius column makes a directly political argument, claiming that "the Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attacks weren't supported by intelligence, according to documents provided by a senior intelligence official."

If this is the best the Obama administration can offer in its defense, they're in trouble. The Times story is almost certainly wrong and the central part of the Ignatius "scoop" isn't a scoop at all. We'll start there.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-tries-write-al-qaeda-out-libya-story_655130.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
Glenn was right, Libya edition: stunning new report

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    and the U.S. surely knew about it.

    Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”

    And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out heavy weapons from Libya.

    In any case, the connection between Benghazi and the rise of jihadists in Syria is stronger than has been officially acknowledged.

“You follow this? The guy we worked with is the guy doing these deals. Our ally Turkey is ‑‑ knows all about it. Our ally, the prime minister, who’s the best friend of Barack Obama? Who’s the one he was the first one to call? He didn’t call, not Tony Blair, he didn’t call Gordan Brown. He didn’t call anybody. The first guy he called was Turkey’s leader. He’s the closest to Turkey’s leader,” Glenn said.

“Turkey is taking the arms from Libya and shipping them into Syria. Reuters also reports that satellite photos exposed a CIA post in Benghazi located 1.2 miles from the consulate. It was used as a base, among other things, for collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from the Libyan government, including surface‑to‑air missiles. And that its security features were more advanced than those at the rented villa where Stevens died. We also know that a dozen CIA operatives and contractors left the Benghazi base after it was exposed. Could the two CIA groups be connected as a start‑and‑end points to help funnel heavy weapons to the Syrian opposition. The answer is yes. We know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. CNN reports that FSA members are cutting their own deals to get weapons from well‑armed extremists.”

“So it raises questions on who the CIA is arming. We also know that U.S. weapons are now ending up in the hands of hardline Islamists in Syria. It turns out that many of the jihadists are the same ones, the same people that Stevens helped arm to topple Muammar Gaddafi.”

“Now here we go. Who was he having dinner with? On September 11th. September 11th he was having a meeting with the Turkish ambassador, the guy who’s involved in the gun‑runnings.  He’s having d

links and way more info here (http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/19/glenn-was-right-libya-edition-stunning-new-report/)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 02:50:33 PM

'Annex' hit in Libya terror attack was CIA post, officials say



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The Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi targeted more than just a State Department consulate. One of the buildings hit was a covert CIA installation, U.S. officials told Fox News.

The now-abandoned American consulate in Benghazi was set a little more than a mile away from the CIA base. Up to this point, that separate base was described by administration officials only as a "safe house" or "annex" to the nearby consulate. In reality, CIA agents and other intelligence officials were operating out of Benghazi conducting delicate missions, including the search for over 20,000 deadly shoulder-fired missiles previously owned by Muammar Qaddafi's Libyan forces.

The work they conducted to seize those deadly weapons, known as MANPADS, was part of a broader and public effort by the State Department to secure them. The major concern is those weapons could be used to bring down a commercial jet.

These officials added that the number of CIA operatives in Benghazi clearly outnumbered that of the diplomatic staff.  It took two military cargo aircraft to lift everyone out of Benghazi when the fighting was over.

Both the CIA outpost and the consulate were attacked on Sept. 11.  Two of the men killed, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, were hit by indirect fire while defending the intelligence post, not the consulate.

One witness told Fox News that Doherty and Woods were found on the roof of the intelligence base manning a single machine gun that was caked in blood, suggesting they continued firing after they were hit by a mortar round approximately seven hours after the attack began.

U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and information analyst Sean Smith were also killed in the attack hours earlier at the consulate.

In general, U.S. officials also say the consulate is better described as a diplomatic mission. It didn't carry out all the traditional roles of a consulate, such as issuing visas.

Revelations concerning just how sensitive operations were in Benghazi began to trickle out during the House oversight committee hearing two weeks ago with witnesses Charlene Lamb, a State Department official who heads diplomatic security, and Ambassador Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary for management at State. As part of their testimony, the two presented a map of Benghazi that clearly labeled and located the

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/cia-installation-hit-in-libya-terror-attack/#ixzz2A3UZMhU7



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 03:23:12 PM
New details emerge of second U.S. facility in violent Benghazi  article date....oct 10th

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Defenses at the second site largely held and unlike the temporary consulate, its grounds were not overrun. However, two U.S. security officials, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, were killed there in what U.S. officials described as an unlucky mortar strike. The rest of the contingent eventually escaped to Benghazi's airport.

The assertions that the second site had relatively sophisticated defensive measures could raise additional questions about why the nearby consulate was not further reinforced given the volatile security environment in Benghazi.

Rex Ubben, whose son David was badly wounded in the attack on the second site and is being treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, said his son had described an intense, sophisticated attack there.

The mortar fire's accuracy "indicates to me that someone was either very, very good, highly trained and skilled, or that the mortar was already set up and pointed at the 'safe house' and only minor adjustments were needed," Ubben, a 24-year Air Force veteran, told Reuters by email last week, relaying his son's account.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other top U.S. officials have defended security measures in place at the temporary consulate, although those claims came under harsh attack by committee Republicans on Wednesday.

Officials investigating the attacks say there is evidence the State Department wanted to maintain a low security profile at the temporary consulate - which was the public face of the U.S. presence in the city - to project an appearance of normality in U.S. dealings with Libya.

Because Benghazi was regarded as lawless and violent, with a heavy presence of Islamic militants, the second compound's security measures included cameras and sensors and its security force included well-trained Americans like Doherty and Woods, the two former Navy SEALs who died in

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-usa-libya-annex-idUSBRE89A02D20121011


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 05:54:33 PM
Benghazi's meaning for Israel and the Mideast  article by Dore Gold

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wrote already on July 30, 2012 that what was happening in Libya and across the Middle East was nothing less than a comeback for al-Qaida, which had created "its largest safe havens and operational bases in more than a decade across the Arab world." He specifically pointed to AQIM, which he said was now "the best armed al-Qaida franchise in the world."

Thus AQIM is on the rise. The commander of the U.S. Army's African command said this July that it was al-Qaida's "wealthiest affiliate." The new AQIM network has been at war with Mauritania, but it also directly threatens Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and whatever government arises in Libya. Their operatives have been caught in Spain and will eventually pose a threat to France and Western Europe. Given this background, it is understandable how Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, who headed the U.S. security assistance team in Libya, could conclude in recent Congressional testimony about al-Qaida in Libya: "Their presence grows every day. They are certainly more established than we are."

While the debate rages in America over whether there was a cover-up of what actually happened in the U.S. compound in Benghazi, there are important trends being missed. There are considerable signs that al-Qaida elements are on the rise in much of the Middle East, and especially in the area of Benghazi in eastern Libya. Indeed, in the first half of 2012, attacks on foreigners in Benghazi escalated: The British ambassador's convoy was assaulted in June by terrorists who used rocket propelled grenades.

Al-Qaida has techniques which it has used to build up its capabilities through local jihadi organizations. These groups, which identify with aspects of its ideology, start out as local militias in the Gaza Strip or in Libya, but nonetheless come into contact with global jihadi networks which provide weapons, combat skills, and finally recruit them into the al-Qaida network. Clearly what happened in Libya did not stay a local phenomenon but radiated out to the entire region and beyond.

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_opinion.php?id=2718



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 06:08:41 PM
Dems Counter Benghazi Furor by Accusing GOP of Endangering Libyan Activist

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Democrats are battling against the Benghazi story by claiming House Republicans compromised the safety of a human-rights activist in posting documents related to the U.S. mission in Libya online.

One of the unclassified cables released by Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) names a Libyan who was detained in Benghazi, had been leading an anti-violence campaign, and has been critical of the government. An administration official told Foreign Policy the woman “isn’t publicly associated with the U.S. in any other way but she’s now named in this cable. It’s a danger to her life.”

“The wholesale release of State Department documents by the House Oversight Committee has exposed Libyan nationals working with the United States to possible danger. This is irresponsible and inexcusable, and perhaps worst of all it was entirely avoidable. It is profoundly against America’s interests in a difficult region,” Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry (D-Mass.) said Saturday.

“I know how to run a real investigation,” Kerry sniped. “…I don’t say casually that this release of sensitive materials was a moment of real incompetence and irresponsibility.”

He accused the GOP of turning the Benghazi probe into a “political sideshow presumably driven by the calendar of Monday’s upcoming presidential debate.”

“The Republicans with Chairman Issa, with Mitt Romney statements trying to make political hay out of a national tragedy — quite frankly, I think the way Governor Romney acted after the ambassador was killed was despicable,” House Foreign Affairs Committee member Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) said on CNN this morning. “…President Obama is no more responsible for what happened in Benghazi than President Bush was for 9/11 or President Reagan was for the Marines being killed in Beirut.”

“One of the things that I found interesting is Darrell Issa dumped out all of those documents, and it occurred to me that, you know dumping that out the Friday before a foreign policy debate, was really all about politics,” Obama’s deputy campaign manager, Stephanie Cutter, said on MSNBC this morning.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/22/dems-counter-benghazi-furor-by-accusing-gop-of-endangering-libyan-activist/?print=1

did they have her name in a binder?  ::)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
US ‘too slow’ to act as drone’s cam captured Libya horror

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The United States had an unmanned Predator drone over its consulate in Benghazi during the attack that slaughtered four Americans — which should have led to a quicker military response, it was revealed yesterday.

“They stood, and they watched, and our people died,” former CIA commander Gary Berntsen told CBS News.

The network reported that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft observed the final hours of the hours-long siege on Sept. 11 — obtaining information that should have spurred swift action.

But as Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three colleagues were killed by terrorists armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, Defense Department officials were too slow to send in the troops, Berntsen said.
VIEW TO A KILL: As terrorists attacked the consulate in Benghazi, a US Predator drone was reportedly observing from above.
EPA
VIEW TO A KILL: As terrorists attacked the consulate in Benghazi, a US Predator drone was reportedly observing from above.

“They made zero adjustments in this. You find a way to make this happen,” he fumed.

“There isn’t a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments.”

The Pentagon said it moved a team of special operators from Central Europe to Sigonella, Italy — about an hour flight from Libya — but gave no other details.

Fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships — which could have been used to help disperse the bloodthirsty mob — were also stationed at three nearby bases, sources told the network.

When the attack began, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta “looked at available options, and the ones we exercised had our military forces arrive in less than 24 hours, well ahead of timelines laid out in established policies,” a Whit

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_watched_as_terror_raged_AypAEEA9OK23rPf7Z5BHWO


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
First, Aid the Living

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A U.S. ambassador is missing and his diplomatic team is desperately fighting off terrorist attacks. Our commander-in-chief and his national-security team in Washington are listening to the phone calls from the Americans under attack and watching real-time video from a drone circling overhead. Yet the U.S. military sends no aid. Why?

On September 11, at about 10 p.m. Libyan time (4 p.m. in Washington), Ambassador Chris Stevens and a small staff were inside our consulate in Benghazi when terrorists attacked. The consulate staff immediately contacted Washington and our embassy in Tripoli. The White House, the Pentagon, the State Department, and numerous military headquarters monitored the entire battle in real time via the phone calls from Benghazi and video from a drone overhead.

Our diplomats fought for seven hours without any aid from outside the country. Four Americans died while the Obama national-security team and our military passively watched and listened. The administration is being criticized for ignoring security needs before the attack and for falsely attributing the assault to a mob. But the most severe failure has gone unnoticed: namely, a failure to aid the living.

By 4:30 p.m. Washington time, the main consulate building was on fire and Ambassador Stevens was missing. In response, the embassy in Tripoli launched an aircraft carrying 22 men. Benghazi was 400 miles away.

At 5 p.m., President Obama met with Vice President Biden and Secretary of Defense Panetta in the Oval Office. The U.S. military base in Sigonella, Sicily, was 480 miles away from Benghazi. Stationed at Sigonella were Special Operations Forces, transport aircraft, and attack aircraft — a much more formidable force than 22 men from the embassy.

In the past, presidents had taken immediate actions to protect Americans. In 1984, President Reagan had ordered U.S. pilots to force an airliner carrying terrorists to land at Sigonella. Reagan had acted inside a 90-minute window while the aircraft with the terrorists was in the air. The Obama national-security team had several hours in which to move forces from Sigonella to Benghazi.

Fighter jets could have been at Benghazi in an hour; the commandos inside three hours. If the attackers were a mob, as intelligence reported, then an F18 in afterburner, roaring like a lion, would unnerve them. This procedure was applied often in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Conversely, if the attackers were terrorists, then the U.S. commandos would eliminate them. But no forces were dispatched from Sigonella.

In the meantime, while untrained and poorly led by American standards, the terrorists at Benghazi were proving to be lethal. They forced the Americans to abandon the

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331125/first-aid-living-bing-west


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 22, 2012, 06:36:22 PM
How Obama & friends helped 'advance' the Middle East

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JewishWorldReview.com | The operational, intelligence and political fiascos that led to and followed the September 11 jihadist assault on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya all derive from the same problem. That problem is the failure of US President Barack Obama's conceptual framework for understanding the Middle East.

The Islamic revolutionary wave sweeping across the Arab world has rent asunder the foundations of the US alliance system in the Middle East. But due to Obama's ideological commitment to an anti-American conceptual framework for understanding Middle Eastern politics his administration cannot see what is happening. That framework places the blame for all or most of the pathologies of the Muslim world on the US and Israel.

What Obama and his advisors can see is that there are many people who disagree with them. And so they adopted a policy of delegitimizing, discrediting and silencing their opponents. To this end, his administration has purged the federal government's lexicon of all terms that are necessary to describe reality.

"Jihad," "Islamist," "radical Islam," "Islamic terrorism," and similar phrases have all been banned. The study of Islamist doctrine by government officials has been outlawed.

The latest casualty of this policy was an instructor at the Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, VA. Until he was sacked this week, the i

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1012/glick101912.php3#.UIWjwmdG1dg


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 23, 2012, 03:52:39 PM
The MSM Wakes Up: Here Comes the L.A. Times

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Showing what the MSM can do when it does its job, the L.A. Times actually tracked down the militia members who were tasked with security on the night of the Benghazi attack:

    Face down on a roof inside the besieged American diplomatic compound, gunfire and flames crackling around them, the two young Libyan guards watched as several bearded men crept toward the ambassador’s residence with semiautomatic weapons and grenades strapped to their chests.

    “We are finished,” one of the guards says he remembers thinking.

    Both are veterans of the ragtag revolutionary forces that toppled Moammar Kadafi. Over the last year, while assigned by their militia to help protect the U.S. mission in Benghazi, the pair had been drilled by American security personnel in using their weapons, securing entrances, climbing walls and waging hand-to-hand combat.

    They were the “quick reaction force” for a compound that was also protected by about five armed Americans and five Libyan civilians hired through a British firm and equipped only with electric batons and handcuffs.

Words fail.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330006/msm-wakes-here-comes-ila-timesi-david-french


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 23, 2012, 03:56:01 PM
Libya guards speak out on attack that killed U.S. ambassador

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BENGHAZI, Libya — Face down on a roof inside the besieged American diplomatic compound, gunfire and flames crackling around them, the two young Libyan guards watched as several bearded men crept toward the ambassador's residence with semiautomatic weapons and grenades strapped to their chests.

"We are finished," one of the guards says he remembers thinking.

Both are veterans of the ragtag revolutionary forces that toppled Moammar Kadafi. Over the last year, while assigned by their militia to help protect the U.S. mission in Benghazi, the pair had been drilled by American security personnel in using their weapons, securing entrances, climbing walls and waging hand-to-hand combat.

They were the "quick reaction force" for a compound that was also protected by about five armed Americans and five Libyan civilians hired through a British firm and equipped only with electric batons and handcuffs.

PHOTOS: U.S. ambassador killed in attack on consulate in Libya

But nothing, they say, had prepared them for this. They had practiced for an attack by 10 or 15 people; now there were scores of professional-looking militants who moved methodically and used well-practiced hand signals. To make matters worse on the night of Sept. 11, instead of four militiamen who were supposed to be on guard, there were only two inside the compound.

The militiamen say they initially fought back, but when one attacker lobbed a grenade into their bungalow near the compound's entrance, they fled to the roof without their radios and with only one magazine of ammunition between them. The American security officers were nowhere in sight.

As the raid continued — eventually killing Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and another American inside the facility, and two other Americans at a separate location hours later — the two Libyans say that they survived by lying on the roof silently for about an hour, too stunned, scared and overmatched to fight back.

"We were not expecting such a massive attack," the guard says. "We were not ready for it."

The two militiamen, who spoke to The Times in separate interviews in the last week in Benghazi and Tripoli, the capital, say they are telling their story publicly for the first time in part because FBI investigators are raising questions about their role. One of the militiamen and a civilian guard say investigators asked them why the guards didn't fight "to the death," and were looking for signs that the attackers had collaborators within the militia.

The militiamen flatly deny supporting the assailants but acknowledge that their large, government-allied force, known as the Feb. 17 Martyrs Brigade, could include anti-American elements.

American officials have declined, as a matter of protocol, to discuss security arrangements at the outpost in eastern Libya . But the attack — the worst to strike a U.S. diplomatic mission since 1998 — grimly underscored the chaos in post-revolutionary Libya, where an array of heavily armed but unevenly trained militias is serving as a sort of substitute army and is responsible for virtually all security, including at diplomatic outposts. The Feb. 17 brigade is regarded as one of the more capable militias in eastern Libya.

The assault also raised questions about why Stevens, a high-value target who was known to venture into the streets, would have spent the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks at the Benghazi mission instead of the more fortified embassy in Tripoli.

The guards bristle at accusations that they shrank from the fight and say they had repeatedly warned American officials about flawed security arrangements.

"They called me a liar. They said we didn't see you on the [security] cameras fighting," says the second militiaman, who was questioned by the FBI recently in Tripoli and who, like others interviewed for this story, asked not to be identified out of fear for his safety.

"I told them that we fired our weapons in the beginning but when we got to the roof, there were 100 enemies and two of us. We could do nothing."

Under an agreement with U.S. officials — who describe the post in Benghazi as a "special mission" and not a consulate, as it's often been called — four Feb. 17 fighters were supposed to be posted at the compound around the clock. They trained and worked closely with a rotating cast of American security personnel and slept in the sand-colored bungalow closest to the main entrance and the ambassador's residence.

But commanders still hadn't replaced one of the four who left his post for personal reasons about a month before the attack. A second was patrolling outside the compound when the attackers arrived, and it's unclear whether he engaged in the battle.

The militia members as well as two civilian guards employed by Blue Mountain, a British firm that in

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-us-guards-20121011,0,7213632,full.story


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 23, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
Tunisian held in connection with Libya strike as debate builds over nature of attack




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A Tunisian national with suspected ties to extremist groups including Al Qaeda's North Africa affiliate is being held in Tunisia in connection with the Libya terror attack -- a development that comes as some question recent efforts by administration sources to downplay the possibility that the attack was pre-planned.

Ali ani al-Harzi was arrested in Turkey, Fox News has confirmed, and has since been transferred to Tunisian authorities. He is one of about two-dozen individuals on a list that is being worked through by the U.S. intelligence community and the FBI. That list was compiled from intercepts as well as the remaining surveillance camera video from the compound of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

Al-Harzi is believed to be a participant in the attack but is not characterized as a ringleader. He is part of a North African Islamist network, with family ties to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and other extremists.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/23/tunisian-held-in-connection-with-libya-terror-attack/?test=latestnews#ixzz2A9vxxF23

I don't care who this adminstration parades in front of us saying they are responsible or part of the attack in Benghazi on Setp 11, 2012...

HE HAD THE BAD GUYS IN HIS SIGHTS THAT NIGHT,HE WAS ABLE TO SEE THROUGH DRONE OR LIVE FEED. HE HAD THE ABLITY TO   KILL THE BAD GUYS THEN AND THERE....HE DID NOT HE WENT TO BED AND THEN TO VEGAS, JAY-Z LETTERMAN AND PIMP WITH THE LIMP.  I will not believe anyone they try to blame it on now.   He is to blame now.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 12:41:06 PM

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar




emails (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/10/24/internal-emails-on-libya-terror-attack/)

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A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows that officials reported within hours of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya that Al Qaeda-tied group Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility.

The emails provide some of the most detailed information yet about what officials knew in the initial hours after the attack. And it again raises questions about why U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, apparently based on intelligence assessments, would claim five days after the attack that it was a "spontaneous" reaction to protests over an anti-Islam film.

Ansar al-Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU, which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Earlier emails did not go into who might have been responsible for the attack.

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/23/state-dept-emails-from-day-libya-attack-show-al-qaeda-tied-group-on-radar/#ixzz2AEeiNuzp




E-mails: White House knew of extremist claims in Benghazi attack
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121024050041-benghaziemail1-horizontal-gallery.jpg)In an e-mail obtained by CNN, State Department officials notify that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is under attack.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121024050034-benghaziemail2-horizontal-gallery.jpg) In an e-mail obtained by CNN, State Department officials notify that the attack is over.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121024050027-benghaziemail3-horizontal-gallery.jpg)In an e-mail obtained by CNN, State Department officials notify that the Ansar al-Sharia -- identified in the subject line of the email -- has taken responsibility for the attack.

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Washington (CNN) -- Two hours after first being notified of an attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, a government e-mail to the White House, the State Department and the FBI said an Islamist group had claimed credit, according to a copy obtained by CNN.

An initial e-mail was sent while the attack was still underway, and another that arrived two hours later -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies including the executive office of the president -- identified Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.

The group denied responsibility the next day.

However, the e-mails raise further questions about the seeming confusion on the part of the Obama administration to determine the nature of the September 11 attack that left U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead.

Two White House officials, speaking on condition of not being identified on Wednesday, said the government e-mails about the attack were not an intelligence assessment. They also noted that there was conflicting information about Ansar al-Sharia denying responsibility.

"They were a part of the many different reports we were receiving that day," one of the White House officials said of the e-mails. "There are always multiple and conflicting reports in the initial hours of an attack. That's why you have an investigation."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton advised reporters to wait until a review panel she appointed to investigate what happened
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/us/libya-benghazi-e-mails/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 12:44:41 PM
White House: Emails are no smoking gun



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The White House pushed back against reports in CBS, Reuters and CNN that they knew immediately that the attack in Benghazi was the work of terrorists.

"There was a variety of information coming in," White House press secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday on Air Force One. "The whole point of an intelligence community and what they do is to assess strands of information and make judgements about what happened and who was responsible."

"This is an open source, unclassified email about a posting on a Facebook site," Carney said. "I would also note that within a few hours the organization itself claimed that it had not been responsible. Neither should be taken as fact. That is why there is an investigation."

News outlets obtained emails from administration officials showing that a State Department report identified the group Ansar al-Sharia taking credit for the Benghazi attack almost immediately.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/white-house-emails-are-no-smoking-gun-147057.html

me thinks they are a smoking gun boo-boo!


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
If you read the coment section at the reuters,cnn and cbs articles......the masses really upset about this.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11

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(CBS News) It was six weeks ago on Tuesday that terrorists attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

Now, CBS News has obtained email alerts that were put out by the State Department as the attack unfolded. Four Americans were killed in the attack, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

These emails contain the earliest description so far of what happened at Benghazi the night of the attack.

Read the emails (PDF)
Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent"
Why no one has been right about Libya
CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

At 4:05 p.m. Eastern time, on September 11, an alert from the State Department Operations Center was issued to a number government and intelligence agencies. Included were the White House Situation Room, the office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the FBI.

"US Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack" -- "approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM (Chief of Mission/embassy) personnel are in the compound safe haven."

At 4:54 p.m., less than an hour later, another alert: "the firing... in Benghazi...has stopped...A response team is on site attempting to locate COM (embassy) personnel."

Then, at 6:07 p.m., State sent out another alert saying the embassy in Tripoli reported the Islamic military group "Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibilty for Benghazi Attack"... "on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

The emails are just a few in what are likely a large number traded throughout the night. They are likely to become part of the ongoing political debate over whether the administration attempted to mislead in saying the assault was an outgrowth of a protest, rather than a planned attack by terrorists.

Fourteen hours after the attack, President Obama sat down with Steve Kroft of "60 Minutes" for a previously scheduled interview and said he did not believe it was simply due to mob violence.

"You're right that this is not a situation that was -- exactly the same as what happened in Egypt and my suspicion is that there are folks involved in this who were looking to target Americans from the start," Mr. Obama said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57538689/emails-detail-unfolding-benghazi-attack-on-sept-11/?tag=socsh



Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 01:44:39 PM

Clinton downplays emails implicating Al Qaeda-tied group within hours of Libya strike



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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pushed back Wednesday on the suggestion that Sept. 11 emails implicating an Al Qaeda-tied group in the Libya consulate attack were proof of terrorist involvement, saying their claims of responsibility on Facebook and Twitter were not "evidence."

Though social media was vital in driving -- and monitoring -- the so-called Arab Spring that overthrew longtime dictators in Libya and other countries, Clinton dismissed it as an unreliable source after a series of internal emails sent by Clinton's State Department staff surfaced in which officials reported within hours of the attack that militant group Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility in Internet postings.

"Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence," Clinton said. "And I think it just underscores how fluid the reporting was at the time and continued for some time to be."

She suggested those producing the emails were "cherrypicking" documentation, as the White House noted the organization reportedly had denied responsibility in other settings.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/24/clinton-downplays-emails-implicating-al-qaeda-tied-group-within-hours-libya/#ixzz2AEuWw0B7

What am I missing Hillary?  2 of the 3 emails are from government email address's only the last one says anything about Facebook. Bueller? anyone? Oh yeah it is Hillary from the don't believe your eyes party.

One more thought...Hillary says pay no attention to social media   YET was OK with the youtube "anti-islam" video story wasn't she?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 02:43:34 PM
Is Newly Appointed Libya Investigator an Islamist-Sympathizer With Ties to CAIR?

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Is the man the Obama administration appointed on October 4 as key investigator for the terror attacks in Benghazi an Islamist-sympathizer? According to recently published reports, the new chairman of a State Department’s “Accountability Review Board,” which is heading the federal investigation into the Benghazi terror attacks, has been accused of being an “apologist for Islamic terrorism who has a cozy relationship with Iran.”

What’s more, the man in question — former Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering — has documented ties with the controversial group, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR, of course, is a documented Muslim Brotherhood affiliate and was named unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation trial — the largest terror-funding trial in U.S. history.

To make matters worse, Pickering is also co-chairman of the board of George Soros’ International Crisis Group who has ties to other Islamic organizations as well, including the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), which has been described as pro-Iran “front group.”

NIAC lost what Matthew Vadum at FrontPageMag describes as ”an important defamation case in federal court last month in which it unsuccessfully argued the group was not a tool of the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

Pickering, who is a member of NIAC’s advisory board, formerly served as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs (1997 to 2000). He was featured in a report “Rise of the Iran Lobby,” by former CIA officer Clare M. Lopez, who was recently featured on the Glenn Beck Program to discuss the motivations behind the terror-attacks on the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-newly-appointed-libya-investigator-an-islamist-sympathizer-with-ties-to-cair/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
WH: ‘We Decline to Comment’ on When Obama Learned of E-Mails, Met With NSC on Benghazi

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CNSNews.com) - The White House is declining to say when President Barack Obama first learned of three e-mails that the State Department sent to the White House on Sept. 11, 2012, directly notifying the Executive Office of the President that the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was under attack, that U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens was at the Benghazi mission at the time of the attack, and that the group Ansar al-Sharia had taken credit for the attack.

The White House also declined to say when the president first met with the National Security Council after the Benghazi attack.

“I have been asked by one of our spokespeople to relay ‘that we decline to comment,’” said White House National Security Staff aide Debbie Bird in a written response to CNSNews.com.

CNSNews.com had asked Bird: 1) “When did the President first meet with the National Security Council after the Benghazi attack on 9/11/12?” 2) “When did White House staff first discuss the substance of the e-mails that went to the White House with the President or with the National Security Advisor?”

Carney also took a question about the e-mails today during a press gaggle held aboard Air Force One at 9:34 a.m. A reporter asked: “Jay, there are some emails that have emerged, which suggest that the White House and other areas of the government were told within hours of the Benghazi attack that an extremist group had claimed responsibility. How is that compatible with the idea that it was a spontaneous attack?”

Carney downplayed the significance of the State Department emails.

“There were emails about all sorts of information that was becoming available in the aftermath of the attack,” Carney said. “The email you’re referring to was an open-source, unclassified email referring to an assertion made on a social media site that everyone in this room had access to and knew about instantaneously. There was a variety of information coming in.

“The whole point of an intelligence community and what they do is to assess strands of information and make judgments about what happened and who was responsible,” said Carney, “and I would refer you to what we’ve already said about, and what the DNI [Director of National Intelligence] has already said about, the initial assessments of the intelligence community, and the fact that throughout this process, I and others made very clear that our preliminary assessments were preliminary, that an investigation was underway, and that as more facts became available, we would make the American people aware of them.

“Again,” said Carney, “this was an open-source, unclassified email about a posting on a Facebook site. I would also note I think that within a few hours, that organization itself claimed that it had not been responsible. Neither should be taken as fact. That’s why there’s an investigation underway.”

The NSC is chaired by the president, and includes Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. A NSC meeting would allow the leader of the intelligence community to communicate directly with the leader of the State Department in the presence of the president and for all of them to weigh any conflicting information.

The three emails in question, which were obtained by CBS News, were sent by the State Department to various government officials, including two officials in the Executive Office of the President, on Sept. 11, 2012, while the attack on the Benghazi was taking place and immediately after it had taken place.

Each of the emails has been redacted so that the suffixes of most of the email addresses are intact—showing where the people who sent them and received them work—but the prefixes are blacked out, so the personal identities of the senders and receivers is obscured.

The first email was sent by a State Department officials at 4:05 PM on Sept. 11, 2012. It carries the subject line: “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.” The text of the email says: “The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots, explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM [Chief of Mission] personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wh-we-decline-comment-when-obama-learned-e-mails-met-nsc-benghazi

I'll tell you something I was shocked this morning to see the actual emails on these nets today. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate. Was Obama gun-walking arms to jihadists?

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Fox News has chronicled how the Al Entisar, a Libyan-flagged vessel carrying 400 tons of cargo, docked on Sept. 6 in the Turkish port of Iskenderun. It reportedly supplied both humanitarian assistance and arms — including deadly SA-7 man-portable surface-to-air missiles — apparently destined for Islamists, again including al Qaeda elements, in Syria.

What cries out for further investigation — and debate in the remaining days of this presidential election — is whether this shipment was part of a larger covert Obama effort to transfer weapons to our enemies that could make the Iran-Contra scandal, to say nothing of Operation Fast and Furious, pale by comparison.

Investigative journalist Aaron Klein has reported that the “consulate in Benghazi” actually was no such thing. He observes that although administration officials have done nothing to correct that oft-repeated characterization of the facility where the murderous attack on Stevens and his colleagues was launched, they call it a “mission.” What Mr. Klein describes as a “shabby, nondescript building” that lacked any “major public security presence” was, according to an unnamed Middle Eastern security official, “routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad’s regime in Syria.”

We know that Stevens‘ last official act was to hold such a meeting with an unidentified “Turkish diplomat.” Presumably, the conversation involved additional arms shipments to al Qaeda and its allies in Syria. It also may have involved getting more jihadi fighters there. After all, Mr. Klein reported last month that, according to sources in Egyptian security, our ambassador was playing a “central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.”

It gets worse. Last week, Center for Security Policy senior fellow and former career CIA officer Clare Lopez observed that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with the so-called “consulate” whose purpose has yet to be disclosed. As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed — and were known by the local jihadis to house — arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with Stevens.

What we do know is that the New York Times — one of the most slavishly pro-Obama publications in the country — reported in an Oct. 14 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster.”

In short, it seems President Obama has been engaged in gun-walking on a massive scale. The effec



http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 24, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
Treason By Administration In Libya?

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Well well well what do we have here?

I've talked a bit about rumors that just won't die that our real purpose in being in Libya with that "Diplomatic Mission" was more related to trying to buy back portable anti-aircraft missiles that we sold or gave to Gaddafi (or was it the "Rebels" -- or both?) and then went "missing."

Now it appears that we have national media that are talking about it and have uncovered proof that these are not just rumors.

Our national hubris in handing a thug anti-aircraft missiles that are both man-portable and not secured is pretty far over the line.  What's worse is that when we discovered they had "disappeared" we apparently then turned around and stuck a ****load of cash in what amounted to an unguarded CIA outpost-cum-"safehouse" and tried to buy them back.

Ok, it wasn't quite unguarded.  But it was damn close, and it was certainly not sufficiently guarded, as we now know.

The ugly of course is that this adds materially to the coverup attempt that Obama and his administration attempted to pull when the attack happened.  Not only are there emails that form hard documentation that the White House knew that this was a raid and not in response to some "Youtube video" in addition they knew damn well what they were doing there and that the "mission" was a high-value military target in that it held both large sums of cash and weapons.

This is damn close to treason folks, and I do not use that word lightly.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=213075


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 25, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
Ed Klein: Bill Clinton ‘Urging’ Hillary to Release Benghazi Documents That Would ‘Exonerate’ Her, Destroy Obama’s Re-Election Hopes

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered additional security for the U.S. mission in Benghazi ahead of the terrorist attack but the orders were never carried out, according to “legal counsel” to Clinton who spoke to best-selling author Ed Klein. Those same sources also say former President Bill Clinton has been “urging” his wife to release official State Department documents that prove she called for additional security at the compound in Libya, which would almost certainly result in President Obama losing the election.

Appearing on TheBlazeTV’s “Wilkow!” on Wednesday night, Klein told host Andrew Wilkow that Bill and Hillary Clinton have been having “big fights” for “two or three weeks” about the issue, according to his two sources on Clinton’s legal counsel. While Bill Clinton wishes his wife would “exonerate” herself by releasing the documents that show she wasn’t at fault for the tragic security failure in Libya, the secretary of state refuses to do so because she doesn’t want to be viewed as a traitor to the Democratic party.

On Glenn Beck’s radio show earlier on Wednesday, Klein said his information comes from two “very good” sources.

Wilkow pointed out the obvious, that the Obamas and the Clintons have a “very behind the scenes, tense relationship” — to put it lightly.

“I said to you last night, and I think I stand corrected,

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ed-klein-bill-clinton-urging-hillary-to-release-benghazi-documents-that-would-exonerate-her-destroy-obamas-re-election-hopes/

I don't think Hillary will take full blame. I sure hope she does something before the election.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say




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Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by officials in the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to "stand down."

Woods, Doherty and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQDcpBpT


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
Joe Biden to Father of Former Navy SEAL Killed in Benghazi: ‘Did Your Son Always Have Balls the Size of Cue Balls?’

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The grieving father also described his brief encounter with President Obama during the ceremony for the Libya victims.

“When he finally came over to where we were, I could tell that he was rather conflicted, a person who was not at peace with himself,” Woods said. “Shaking hands with him, quite frankly, was like shaking hands with a dead fish. His face was pointed towards me but he would not look me in the eye, his eyes were over my shoulder.”

“I could tell that he was not sorry,” he added. “He had no remorse.”

Beck said he wanted to give the president “the benefit of the doubt,” and asked Woods how he could be sure that Obama wasn’t just uncomfortable or nervous during their conversation. Woods said it was Obama’s “demeanor.”

Hillary Clinton’s comments to Woods raise even more questions about the White House’s official story on the Benghazi attack, which has already been extremely inconsistent.

After apologizing for his loss, Woods said Clinton told him that the U.S. would “make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say





Obama “Now with respect to Libya, as I indicated in the last debate, when we received that phone call, I immediately made sure that, number one, that we did everything we could to secure those Americans who were still in harm’s way;”  from the last debate...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/transcript-presidential-debate-on-foreign-policy-at-lynn-university/



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
Panetta: We didn’t defend consulate under attack because of a lack of intel

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One of the unanswered questions about the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi is why the US military didn’t intervene.  Rumors had swirled that the US asked the Libyan government in Tripoli for permission to fly into Benghazi to break up the attack but had been refused, although no one has claimed that on the record.  Defense Secretary Leon Panetta put that rumor to rest yesterday by telling reporters that the US never planned to intervene at all, thanks to a lack of intel on the ground:

    US military leaders ruled out sending in forces during the attack on an American consulate in Libya last month because of a lack of reliable intelligence, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday.

    Although forces were on alert and ready to launch an operation if needed, the US military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

    “There’s a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told a news conference.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/26/panetta-we-didnt-defend-consulate-under-attack-because-of-a-lack-of-intel/

LIAR!

one of the CIA guys who defied the stand down order[they asked at least 3 times] to help had a lazer pointed at the bad guys waiting for help. It is also reported that the 2 CIA guys died hours after the initial attack. Also that the machine gun that he was firing was caked in blood meaning he had continued to fight after being wounded...  You had at least 2 real time drone feed..........YOU ALL DID NOTHING WHILE THESE BRAVE MEN WAITED FOR YOUR HELP.  


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on October 26, 2012, 02:05:48 PM
harms way?  we PAY the military to go into harms way.  that is what they are there for, and they understand that when they sign up


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 02:38:02 PM
Benghazigate: We Know Now Who Gave the Order Not to Protect the Consulate

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Now we know who is taking responsibility for denying support to the consulate and the safe house.

The photo, which is the official one put out by DOD, from the press conference held by Panetta and General Dempsey is horribly eloquent in terms of body language.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta defended the failure to go in by claiming that the issue was a lack of reliable intel, despite the fact that they had multiple distress calls and a drone overhead.

Blaming a lack of reliable intel is fine if you want to pull away from intervening in Syria, but not when a US diplomatic facility and its personnel are under sustained attack. And how much intel was really needed to send two jets to buzz the area and possibly scare off some of the attackers, who would not have posed any threat to the aircraft?

    Although forces were on alert and ready to launch an operation if needed, the US military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

So the buck has been passed to Panetta and Dempsey and Ham. Dempsey is a soulless administration toady and Ham is deeply invested in Libya. Panetta is a Clintonite who is completely expendable, especially if the charges get pinned to Hillary. But Panetta still seems filled with self-loathing and Dempsey looks disgusted with him.

Not doing something because there is no intel is a common excuse in these circles when they don’t want to do something. Just as with Iran, there would never have been enough intel.

And how much intel was needed really? Benghazi had an extended profile and was the cause of the entire Libyan war. The consulate had an extensive intelligence apparatus and the declassified cables we’ve seen are a fraction of the actual classified cables that would have been at Panetta, Dempsey and Ham’s disposal.

They knew about the Islamist militias and had descriptions of their armament from the RSO’s reports. They didn’t know the exact number of attackers or every single possible detail, but you can never really know everything before going in.

    “There’s a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told a news conference.

But there were already forces in harm’s way, who were trying to provide some real time intel from their point of view. What Panetta means is that the decision was made not to send aid to them, and it wasn’t about risking more lives, but about the politics of intervening in Libya and offending the Libyans. It was done for the same reason that US soldiers have at times been abandoned without air

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http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/benghazigate-we-know-now-who-gave-the-order-not-to-protect-the-consulate/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassador’s Benghazi visit?




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A mysterious Libyan ship -- reportedly carrying weapons and bound for Syrian rebels -- may have some link to the Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Fox News has learned.

Through shipping records, Fox News has confirmed that the Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed during an extended assault by more than 100 Islamist militants.

On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.

Although what was discussed at the meeting is not public, a source told Fox News that Stevens was in Benghazi to negotiate a weapons transfer, an effort to get SA-7 missiles out of the hands of Libya-based extremists. And although the negotiation said to have taken place may have had nothing to do with the attack on the consulate later that night or the Libyan mystery ship, it could explain why Stevens was travelling in such a volatile region on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

When asked to comment, a State Department spokeswoman dismissed the idea, saying Stevens was there for diplomatic meetings, and to attend the opening of a cultural center.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/25/was-syrian-weapons-shipment-factor-in-ambassadors-benghazi-visit/#ixzz2AQvEi4gF


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 06:15:23 PM
MUST WATCH: Rush military caller says beyond shadow of doubt Obama knew about Benghazi attack and ordered no response

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This is an amazing phone call from a retired Lt. Col. and Special Operations Planner for 15 years who knows the inside baseball of what goes on in the White House. He told Rush that protocol dictates that as soon as the situation room got the email about the Benghazi attack, someone marched up to the president and informed him of the attack. He says it’s a bald faced lie if they say otherwise.

He also says that it was the president who gave the order at his 5pm meeting that day to not respond to the Libya attack in progress.

He explains it all below and I’m calling this is a MUST WATCH:

http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-rush-military-caller-says-beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-obama-knew-about-benghazi-attack-ordered-no-response/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 06:16:22 PM
Father of fallen Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods: I do not appreciate cowardice, lies

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From Megyn Kelly’s “America Live” today, Charlie Woods, who lost his son in the attack on the Benghazi consulate, reacts to the latest news that CIA command refused to send help. Speaking very calmly, Woods said his son deserves the same moral courage from the country’s leaders that he displayed in giving his life to save his fellow Americans:

    “This is not about politics … if it were about politics, it would dishonor my son’s death. It’s about honor, integrity and justice,” he said.

    “This news that he disobeyed his orders does not surprise me. My son was an American hero, and he had the moral strength to do what was right … even if it would have professionally cost him his job, even if it would have cost him his life.”

    Woods went on to say that while he forgives those who gave the orders that indirectly led to his son’s death, he wishes they would take a lesson from the young former SEAL’s courage.

The interview speaks for itself, so I’ll let it. I honor Tyrone Woods’ sacrifice, and after hearing his

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/26/father-of-former-navy-seal-tyrone-woods-i-do-not-appreciate-cowardice-lies/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 06:25:00 PM
Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus

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Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
Obama Refuses to Answer ‘Repeated Questions on Whether Requests for Help in Benghazi Were Denied’

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“President Obama was directly asked twice whether pleas for help on the ground in Libya were denied during the attack. Both times, he repeated his standard call for a thorough investigation,” 9News reports.

Here is Obama’s full response to the question:

    “Well, we are finding out exactly what happened. I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened so that it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice. And I guarantee you that everyone in the state department, our military, the CIA, you name it, had number one priority making sure that people were safe. These were our folks and we’re going to find out exactly what happened, but what we’re also going to do it make sure that we are identifying those who carried out these terrible attacks.”

Watch Obama’s interview with 9News here:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reporter-obama-would-not-answer-repeated-questions-on-whether-requests-for-help-in-benghazi-were-denied/

Let me get this straight bammy...........you had a real time live feed and you want to find out exactly what happened....  sure you are responsible for the 4 dead....


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 07:21:21 PM
9NEWS questions President Obama on Libya attack

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The President was also asked about the loss of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars in the failure of Abound Solar, a Fort Collins company connected to one of the President's billionaire fundraisers.

"These loans that are given out by the Department of Energy for clean energy have created jobs all across the country," President Obama said. "Some of them have failed but the vast majority of them are pushing us forward into a clean energy direction."

"These are decisions, by the way, that are made by the Department of Energy, they have nothing to do with politics," President Obama said.

President Obama was asked, in light of his calls for increased civility in politics, why he recently called Governor Mitt Romney a "bullsh-----" in an interview appearing in Rolling Stone magazine.

"This was a conversation after an interview in a casual conversation with a reporter," President Obama said. "A major issue in any election is can you count on the person that you're putting into the Oval Office?"

Excerpts of the full interview appear below:

http://www.9news.com/news/article/296294/339/9NEWS-questions-Obama-on-Libya-attack?odyssey=tab|topnews|bc|large


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 07:57:22 PM
President Obama Begs Off Answering Whether Americans in Benghazi Were Denied Requests for Help

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In an interview with a Denver TV reporter Friday, President Obama twice refused to answer questions as to whether the Americans under siege in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, were denied requests for help, saying he’s waiting for the results of investigations before making any conclusions about what went wrong.

After being asked about possible denials of requests for aid, and whether it’s fair to tell Americans that what happened is under investigation and won’t be released until after the election, the president said, “the election has nothing to do with four brave Americans getting killed and us wanting to find out exactly what happened. These are folks who served under me who I had sent to some very dangerous places. Nobody wants to find out more what happened than I do.”

President Obama told KUSA-TV’s Kyle Clarke large that “we want to make sure we get it right, particularly because I have made a commitment to the families impacted as well as to the American people, we’re going to bring those folks to justice. So, we’re going to gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, and make sure that it doesn’t happen again but we’re also going to make sure that we bring to justice those who carried out these attacks.”

Clark pressed again.

“Were they denied requests for help during the attack?” he asked.

“Well, we are finding out exactly what happened,” the president again said. “I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened so that it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice. And I guarantee you that everyone i

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/president-obama-begs-off-answering-whether-americans-in-benghazi-were-denied-requests-for-help/

Wait bammy now it isn't about the video?   LIAR...YOU LIED AND 4 DIED ON YOUR WATCH.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: JohnBrowdie on October 26, 2012, 08:17:01 PM
apples, you have done a great job setting down all of the benghazi events into a single thread.



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
apples, you have done a great job setting down all of the benghazi events into a single thread.


;)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
BOMBSHELL: US Security Forces Would Not Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support Overhead – But White House Called It Off

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How much more information did they need?

* * * * *

Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/10/bigger-than-watergate-proof-that-the-president-is-lying-about-benghazi.html) from a former Delta operator:

    Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

    One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

    Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

    If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

    If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

This is HUGE.
It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/bombshell-us-troops-would-not-have-been-painting-assets-on-ground-unless-their-was-air-support-overhead-but-white-house-called-off-attack/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Admin. rejects new claim about Libya attack

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The new claims come as Republican senators demanded that the Obama administration make public the surveillance video taken during and just after the attacks.

Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire wrote to the defense secretary, CIA director and attorney general demanding that the video from Sept. 11 and 12 be declassified. Pentagon and CIA officials declined to comment on the senators' request. Justice Department officials did not respond to requests for comment.

U.S. intelligence officials this week turned over intelligence reports to Congress showing what officials at the CIA and other agencies knew and when. U.S. officials who have reviewed the material say it shows confusion during and in the days following the attack. Members of Congress have complained that the White House and the intelligence community stuck to the analysis that an angry mob started the attack long after it had become more clear that it was an organized militant operation.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_SURVEILLANCE_VIDEO?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-26-20-18-22


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 11:54:27 AM
The Incredible Shrinking President

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We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video,” said Hillary Clinton. No, not the person who made the video saying that voting for Barack Obama is like losing your virginity to a really cool guy. I’ll get to that in a moment. But Secretary Clinton was talking about the fellow who made the supposedly Islamophobic video that supposedly set off the sacking of the Benghazi consulate. And, indeed, she did “have that person arrested.” By happy coincidence, his bail hearing has been set for three days after the election, by which time he will have served his purpose. These two videos — the Islamophobic one and the Obamosexual one — bookend the remarkable but wholly deserved collapse of the president’s reelection campaign.

You’ll recall that a near-month-long attempt to blame an obscure YouTube video for the murder of four Americans and the destruction of U.S. sovereign territory climaxed in the vice-presidential debate with Joe Biden’s bald assertion that the administration had been going on the best intelligence it had at the time. By then, it had been confirmed that there never had been any protest against the video, and that the Obama line that Benghazi had been a spontaneous movie review that just got a little out of hand was utterly false. The only remaining question was whether the administration had knowingly lied or was merely innocently stupid. The innocent-stupidity line became harder to maintain this week after Fox News obtained State Department e-mails revealing that shortly after 4 p.m. Eastern, less than a half hour after the assault in Benghazi began, the White House situation room knew the exact nature of it.

We also learned that, in those first moments of the attack, a request for military back-up was made by U.S. staff on the ground but was denied by Washington. It had planes and special forces less than 500 miles away in southern Italy — or about the same distance as Washington to Boston. They could have been there in less than two hours. Yet the commander-in-chief declined to give the order. So Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods fought all night against overwhelming odds, and died on a rooftop in a benighted jihadist hellhole while Obama retired early to rest up before his big Vegas campaign stop. “Within minutes of the first bullet being fired the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied,” said Ty Woods’s father, Charles. “In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision.”

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Why would Obama and Biden do such a thing? Because to launch a military operation against an al-Qaeda affiliate on the anniversary of 9/11 would have exposed the hollowness of their boast through convention week and the days thereafter — that Osama was dead and al-Qaeda was finished. And so Ty Woods, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Chris Stevens were left to die, and a decision taken to blame an entirely irrelevant video and, as Secretary Clinton threatened, “have that person arrested.” And, in the weeks that followed, the government of the United States lied to its own citizens as thoroughly and energetically as any totalitarian state, complete with the midnight knock on the door from not-so-secret policemen sent to haul the designated fall-guy into custody.

This goes far beyond the instinctive secretiveness to which even democratic governments are prone. The Obama administration created a wholly fictional story line, and devoted its full resources to maintaining it. I understand why Mitt Romney chose not to pursue this line of argument in the final debate. The voters who will determine this election are those who voted for Obama four years ago and this time round either switch to the other fellow or sit on their hands. In electoral terms, it’s probably prudent of Mitt not to rub their faces in their 2008 votes. Nevertheless, when the president and other prominent officials stand by as four Americans die and then abuse their sacrifice as contemptuously as this administration did, decency requires that they be voted out of office as an act of urgent political hygiene.

At the photo-op staged for the returning caskets, Obama et al. seem to have been too focused on their campaign needs to observe even the minimal courtesies. Charles Woods says that at the ceremony Joe Biden strolled over to him and by way of condolence said in a “loud and boisterous” voice, “Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?” One assumes charitably that the vice president is acknowledging in his own inept and blundering way the remarkable courage of a man called upon to die for his country on some worthless sod halfway across the planet. But the near-parodic locker-room coarseness is grotesque both in its inaptness and in its lack of basic human

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
BUSTED… Former Top Defense Official: If Obama Gave Order to Protect Benghazi Heroes There’d Be Paper Trail (There Was No Order)

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Obama Fiddled While Benghazi Burned–
Earlier today Barack Obama told Denver’s WUSA TV this in regard to the Benghazi 9-11 terror attack,

    “I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.”

Tonight however, Bing West, a former Assistant Secretary of Defense, told Greta Van Susteren,

    “If that actually happened the way President Obama said it happened, there’s a paper trail and I think people reasonably enough can say, “Can we see the order?” because hundreds of others supposedly saw this order.

Obama just got caught. He lied about his securing our personnel in Benghazi. And now the world will know about it.
There was no order to protect our men on the ground.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/obama-is-busted-former-top-defense-official-if-obama-gave-order-to-protect-benghazi-personnel-theres-a-paper-trail-video/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
Special Report Investigates: Benghazi -- New Revelations

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Saturday, October 27 at 1 p.m. ET

Sunday, October 28 at 3 p.m, and 10 p.m. ET

Hosted by Bret Baier

On Sept. 11, 2012, terrorists overran the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya and murdered our ambassador along with three other Americans.

Now, more than six weeks after the attack, some of the most important questions remain unanswered:

Who did this and why?

Could the attack have been prevented or repelled after it began?

What did the White House know and when?

And, as we enter the final stretch of the race for the White House, which side is closer to the truth: Those who argue this terrible tragedy was largely unforeseeable or those who say we're seeing President Obama's foreign policy unraveling right on our TV screens?

Fox News has been on this story from the very beginning. Tune in this weekend, Bret Baier reveals explosive new details that you haven't heard.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-reporting/transcript/special-report-investigates-benghazi-new-revelations#ixzz2AWaf6PMM


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Libyan witnesses recount organized Benghazi attack

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TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with around 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

The trucks bore the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, a powerful local group of Islamist militants who worked with the municipal government to manage security in Benghazi, the main city in eastern Libya and birthplace of the uprising last year that ousted Moammar Gadhafi after a 42-year dictatorship.

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam's Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politics/article/Libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-Benghazi-attack-3987075.php#ixzz2AXnHHbqr


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
Obama did not deny requests for help in Benghazi: Aide

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The White House on Saturday flatly denied that President Barack Obama withheld requests for help from the besieged American compound in Benghazi, Libya, as it came under on attack by suspected terrorists on September 11th.

"Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email.

Fox News Channel reported Friday that American officials in the compound repeatedly asked for military help during the assault but were rebuffed by CIA higher-ups. At a press briefing one day earlier, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, asked why there had not been a quicker, more forceful response to the assault, complained of "Monday-morning quarterbacking." Panetta said he and top military commanders had judged it too dangerous to send troops to the eastern Libyan city without a clearer picture of events on the ground.

The "basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," he said during a joint question-and-answer session with Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff General Martin Dempsey.

"As a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, General Ham, General Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation," Panetta said. General Carter Ham commands the U.S. Africa Command.

And the CIA has denied that anyone in its chain of command rejected requests for help from the besieged Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-did-not-deny-requests-help-benghazi-aide-182415488--election.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
Obama did not deny requests for help in Benghazi: Aide

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-did-not-deny-requests-help-benghazi-aide-182415488--election.html
the night of the Biden Ryan debate Biden said the White House didn't know at thing about the attack...now they say they didn't deny requests for help?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 27, 2012, 07:55:30 PM
Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster

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The latest rumor making the rounds is that Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at Africom after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18.
Tiger Droppings reported:

    The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

    General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

    The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.

Sure enough Obama nominated Gen. David Rodriguez to replace Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.
The Stars and Stripes reported:

    President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.

    Both appointments must be confirmed by the Senate.

    Rodriguez is the commander of U.S. Army Forces Command and has served in a “variety of key leadership roles on the battlefield,” Panetta said.

    He’s “a proven leader” who oversaw coalition and Afghan forces during the surge in Afghanistan, and “was the key architect of the successful campaign plan that we are now implementing,” Panetta said.

    In announcing Ham’s successor, Panetta also praised the work Ham has done with Africa Command.

    “Gen. Ham has really brought AFRICOM into a very pivotal role in that challenging region,” Panetta said. “I and the nation are deeply grateful for his outstanding service.”

Hat Tip Tom

More…
The Obama Administration also relieved the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette. It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.
The Stars and Stripes reported:

    The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

    Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis’ home port at Bremerton, Wash., in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-africom-general-replaced-for-his-efforts-to-save-benghazi-security-officials/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on October 27, 2012, 09:56:53 PM
great job putting it on one thread


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
great job putting it on one thread
Thank you!


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Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
Obama on Benghazi: 'Ultimately ... I am responsible'

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"What my attitude on this is is if we find out there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job, they’ll be held accountable," he said in an interview with "Morning Joe

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/obama-on-benghazi-ultimately-i-am-responsible-147482.html

THEY'LL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLEright sure it ain't your fault.........again.

quotes from the politico thread...

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He is responsible? That's a laugh. What was he doing during the 7 hour fight in Libya? Was he even notified or did he outsource it like he does everything else? Who made the decision to do nothing? We know he lied on the 12th and flew off to Vegas. Looked solemn at the photo op with the coffins but when the cameras went down reverted back to cant be bothered routine. He continued to perpetuate the lie with the media's assistance and now it's unraveling. He is a selfish, cold, hard politician who puts his political survival ahead of everything else. He lied to protect his bumper sticker. He blamed this tragedy on am American citizen who sits in jail on a simple parole violation after being outed by the United States govt. as the man who caused the death of 4 Americans. The president knew this to be untrue but repeated it to the world for 2 weeks putting this man's life at risk. This should put fear in every citizen, that the govt. could abuse it's power in that way. If Obama is re elected look for hearings where more damaging information is found. Obama could and should be impeached. ...


They Drag a United States Ambassadors lifeless body down the pavement.three other americans that were seal or military BEG THE WHITE HOUSE LEADERSHIP FOR HELP.Who really believes that the president was not made aware of this attack minutes after the Navy Seal or other now dead American Begged them for help? WHO? Answer No one, because they need to cover there asses.The response Teams were ORDERED NOT to HELP or Stand down.ALL THESE MEN WANTED TO GET OVER THERE AND HELP THEM.
What's wrong with people these days? If This were BUSH they media WOULD CRUCIFY HIM, Hell maybe in real time.I tell you the men in this country need to stand up Now.If this guy gets in there again maybe we deserve Sharia law lifestyle...

This is the first article on Benghazi in POLITICO in the past 3 days, and all Jennifer does is to parrot Obama's lame excuses. If this were a Republican President, 50% of POLITICO's articles would have been on the new revelations that the White House situation room was aware this was an organized terrorist attack on the ground in real time, that requests for relief were denied 3 times, that the Administration lied or obscured the real events for weeks, that Hillary told the father of one of the slain that the Administration would arrest and prosecute the movie maker (who was only exercising freedom of speech) but said nary a word about finding and killing the terrorists. They took 3 weeks to just send in FBI agents while CNN reporters and others were wandering around the destroyed consulate and safe house picking up evidence like the ambassador's private journal. A NY Times reporter interviewed one of the leaders of the attack who was sipping on a strawberry frappe at a local restaurant. And was the Ambassador in Benghazi to secretly meet with a Turkish diplomat to continue an IRAN-CONTRA type exchange of Libyan arms for Syrian rebels? Jennifer - if you ever want to be a journalist, you won't get there just creating a smokescreen for your favorite Liberal politician.''
 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 12:30:12 PM
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack

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Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said tonight that his sources tell him that Obama was one of the people in the room watching the Benghazi attack go down and both he and Col. David Hunt agree it would have taken an order by the president to intervene. Further, Col. Hunt said that we were only 20 min away by jet and a couple of hours away by AC-130 gunships and special forces, and the decision not to intervene had to be political.

Watch:

video at link (http://www.therightscoop.com/lt-col-tony-shaffer-my-sources-tell-me-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack/)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
From what I understand there is the live feed video it still exists. Of course the White House said no when asked for it. I am curious to see if it leaks out before the election. For me if it does that really means some serving under the CiC are upset.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
Petraeus on Benghazi: It Wasn't Me

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Central Intelligence Agency director David Petraeus has emphatically denied that he or anyone else at the CIA refused assistance to the former Navy SEALs who requested it three times as terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on the night of Sep. 11. The Weekly Standard and ABC News report that Petraeus's denial effectively implicates President Barack Obama, since a refusal to assist "would have been a presidential decision."

Earlier today, Denver local reporter Kyle Clarke of KUSA-TV did what the national media largely refuses to do, asking Obama directly whether the Americans in Benghazi were denied requests for aid. Obama dodged the question, but implied that he had known about the attacks as they were "happening."

Emails released earlier this week indicated that the White House had been informed almost immediately that a terror group had taken responsibility for the attack in Benghazi, and Fox News reported this morning that the two former Navy SEALs, Ty Woods and Glen Doherty, had been refused in requests for assistance they had made from the CIA annex.

Jake Tapper quoted Petraeus this afternoon denying that the CIA was responsible for the refusal: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate."

As William Kristol of the Weekly Standard notes, that leaves only President Obama himself to blame:

    So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/26/Petraeus-on-Benghazi-It-Wasnt-Me


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Senators McCain, Ayotte and Graham request immediate declassification of Benghazi surveillance video

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no way this gets out before the election...never happen.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/26/senators-mccain-ayotte-and-graham-request-immediate-declassification-of-benghazi-surveillance-video/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 04:02:44 PM
Media Blackout: Aside from FOX, Sunday News Hosts Fail to Raise Benghazi

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The mainstream media's silence on the Benghazi disaster reached deafening levels on Sunday, as hosts of four out of the five major news shows--with the exception of Fox News Sunday--failed to raise the issue. Only Bob Schieffer of CBS gave it serious consideration, and only after it was raised by Sen. John McCain.

When the Benghazi issue did surface, other than on Fox, it was invariably brought up by Republican guests, and then deflected by the hosts, who largely ignored new stories this week that implicated the White House in the decision not to intervene to save the life of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other American staff.

Here is how the Sunday shows covered the issue:

NBC: Meet the Press with David Gregory

The Benghazi issue was not raised at all, save by panelist Carly Fiorina, who was interrupted by Gregory. He promised, "We'll get to that a little bit later," but did not return to the issue before the show's end. (The show was interrupted in some markets, in the final minute, with breaking news about Hurricane Sandy.)

ABC: This Week with George Stephanopoulos

The Benghazi issue was raised by Newt Gingrich, in response to a question about the Romney campaign's prospects in Ohio. Stephanopoulos failed to ask a follow-up and steered the conversation back to polls.

CNN: State of the Union with Candy Crowley

The Benghazi issue was raised twice, once by Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus in response to a question about U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock's views on abortion, and once by Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell in response to a question about whether Romney would win the state in November. Crowley did not raise the issue independently in a show largely focused on polls and voting.

CBS: Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer

The Benghazi issue was raised in an exchange between Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama's former chief of staff. After McCain brought up the issue, Schieffer asked a follow-up question about whether the administration had engaged in a "deliberate cover-up." McCain said it had either been a cover-up or "the worst kind of incompetence." Schieffer responded with another question about whether drones had produced images of the attacks. Emanuel responded with the Obama campaign's standard talking points, and Schieffer followed up with a question about what he would have done in the White House. Emanuel ducked the question, instead praising Obama's foreign policy record in general.

FOX: Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace

The Benghazi issue was first raised by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) in describing issues of concern to Wisconsin voters. Wallace replied that he had planned to address the issue later, which he did, addressing questions to Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) about recent revelations. Warner responded by expressing sympathy with the families of the dead and wounded and promised: "We're going to get to the bottom of this. The intelligence is going to hold

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/28/Media-Cover-Up-Aside-from-FOX-Sunday-Shows-Fail-to-Raise-Benghazi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 04:04:16 PM
Emanuel praises White House on Libya, says Obama ‘took control’

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Chicago Mayor and former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel defended President Obama's handling of the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya on Sunday.

Emanuel, appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” said that Obama "took control and he said exactly what needs to be done" following the Sept. 11 attack, which claimed the lives of four Americans.

Earlier on the program, Arizona Sen. John McCain (R) McCain charged that the Obama administration's handling of the situation amounted to either a "massive cover-up" or incompetence, but Emanuel insisted the conflicting reports following the assault were simply the result of shifting intelligence.

"You have an event, a changing event, you don't have people on the ground, in a sense, with that information. The intelligence community, many different

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264493-emanuel-praises-handling-of-libya-attack-says-obama-took-control-



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Former CIA officer predicted Obama administration’s calamity, deception in Libya

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President Obama and his administration deception continues of who knew what, who denied security requests and military intervention, and ignoring vile warnings that resulted in the tragedy in Benghazi, Libya where U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three others, including former Navy Seals, died at the hands of Islamic terrorists.

After a report came out three days ago that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had asked for more security in Benghazi and President Obama said no, research conducted by the Paulding County Republican Examiner revealed that warnings were present and written about but was largely ignored or unheeded.

While the mainstream media, with the exception of Fox News and conservative third party reporters, have largely ignored or pushed aside reports of the Obama administration's involvement in Benghazi; warnings, predictions and the dangers for the CIA were found by the Paulding County Republican Examiner by former CIA officer and counter-intelligence expert and author of “Willing Accomplices”, Kent Clizbe, who as early as last year told NewsMax that the Obama administration is “incompetent at best and subversive at worst,” in dealing with the Middle East and North Africa [Libya].

Clizbe said, “The Muslim Brotherhood is using U.S. aid to bolster itself, just as the Bolsheviks did in the Russian revolution. The Obama administration is falling right into that trap.”

Clizbe presented warnings on his website this past summer that revealed dire warnings that actions by the Obama administration would spell disaster but was largely overlooked.

Clizbe pointed out, ”Obama and his clique love covert operations. They've demonstrated that in the Global War on Terror (or “overseas contingency operations building bridges to Islamic extremists”). Instead of actually pursuing the war in Afghanistan with the tools in place—soldiers and Marines—they prefer Predator strikes in the hinterlands of Pakistan. The number of these covert action killings has soared from 2009 to 2011—with estimates of 5 dead in 2009 under Bush growing to several hundred dead in 2010 under Obama.”

Clizbe stated, “No exit strategy?” Remember the progressive geniuses who constantly chided the

http://www.examiner.com/article/former-cia-officer-predicted-obama-administration-s-calamity-deception-libya


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
I cannot confirm this but I did find this on these nets....I do not watch Huckabee so can any one here supply this thread with a link to this rumor?


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CATHERINE HERRIDGE TELLS HUCKABEE AMB STEPHENS WAS IN #BENGHAZI TO FACILITATE MOVEMENT OF ARMS FRM LIBYA TO SYRIA!! SHE HAS DOCUMENTS!!

http://frrole.com/o/catherine-herridge-tells-huckabee-amb-st-victoriaokane-san-francisco


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on October 28, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
Fox news Sunday... Chris Wallace asked a Senator if the drones over Benghazi were armed?

He would not answer the question.

Wow.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
What the Obama Administration does not want you to see

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There were many security cameras at the Benghazi US Consulate.  One camera was positioned to (and did) record Ambassador Stevens, on September 11, saying good night at 8:40pm Libya time to a Turkish Diplomat.

The video from this camera – I am told – shows (and proves) there was NO PROTEST outside our Consulate.  The Obama Administration had that tape immediately and they knew what it showed and knew it immediately.  Anyone who watched the video observed the obvious.

Don’t you think the Obama Administration should release that video so that the American people can see for themselves what REALLY happened and not what the Obama Administration tried to feed them in the weeks after the terrorist attack?   They won’t release the tape – in fact, they are hiding the video tape from you by classifying it so that it remains out of our reach.  Frankly, that is the oldest trick in the book – classify it.  They don’t want you to see the tape and they don’t want you to know what THEY KNEW RIGHT AWAY.

The Obama Administration doesn’t even have to release the entire tape (although they should) — I just want to see the few minutes before our Ambassador and the Turkish Diplomat walked out of the Consulate….and a few minutes after the Turkish Diplomat leaves and the Ambassador returns insides.

If the Obama Administration won’t release the video — how about still frames from the video?  How could they deny the American people at least that now?

Releasing the video (or stills from the video) now would in no way jeopardize the Obama Administration’s internal investigation.  The video is what the video is.  If someone appears in the who might have reason not to have his identity disclosed (security), his of her face can be blurred.  That is simple.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/27/what-the-obama-administration-does-not-want-you-to-see/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 08:04:48 PM
Obama's dereliction of duty exposed in Libya, says lawmaker

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Appearing on Sunday's edition of Fox & Friends, Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA) blasted President Barack Obama and his administration for playing politics with the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador, dead.

Complaining about the lack of candor emanating from the Obama White House, Kelly said, "I am appalled by the dereliction of duty that’s taken place by this administration. We’ve got to get to the bottom of this and we’ve got to get it fixed.” Kelly, a first-term congressman, serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Rep. Kelly claims that in a May 3, 2012, email, the State Department denied a request by a group of Special Forces assigned to protect the U.S. embassy in Libya to continue their use of a DC- 3 airplane for security operations throughout the country.

The subject line of the email, on which slain Ambassador Chris Stevens was copied, read: “Termination of Tripoli DC-3 Support.”

"Four days later, on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department’s Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies," Kelly stated.

While the embassy in Vienna was going green, the consulate in Benghazi was getting bombed, and little was done to stop it, according to Kelly.

According to Rep. Issa, the Oversight Committee will expand the focus of the investigation of the attack -- that left four men dead, including Amb. Chris Stevens -- to include officials in the Obama White House, as well as the Hillary Clinton-led U.S. State Department.

Following the testimony of State Department staffers about the lack of diplomatic security at the Benghazi consulate, Issa sent President Obama an official letter demanding to know why the administration reduced U.S. security in Libya while the country was still emerging from a civil war. The State Department contracted a small security firm to provide untrained and ill-prepared

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-s-dereliction-of-duty-exposed-libya-says-lawmaker


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 28, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
Republicans Tee Off on Libya

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On Sunday's political talk shows, several Republicans criticized the Obama administration's response to the September 11, 2012, terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. Here's Senator John McCain of Arizona on CBS's Face the Nation:

    You know, this administration is very good at touting and giving all the details like when they got Bin Laden. But now, we know that there were tapes, recordings inside the consulate during this fight, and they've gotten—they came—the F.B.I. finally got in and took those, and now they're classified as "top secret." Why would they be top secret? So the president went on various shows, despite what he said he said in the Rose Garden, about terrorist acts, he went on several programs, including "The View" including "Letterman" including before the U.N., where he continued to refer, days later, many days later, to this as a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. We know that is patently false. What did the president know? When did he know it? And what did he do about it?

McCain said for "literally days and days" the White House "told the American people something that had no basis in fact whatsoever."

Newt Gingrich, on ABC's This Week:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/republicans-tee-libya_658031.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 01:56:08 PM
Father of Slain Benghazi SEAL to Obama: “It’s Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward” (Video)

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Last night on Geraldo at LargeCharles Woods, the father of murdered Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, sent this message to Barack Obama:
“It’s better to die a hero than live a coward.”
Well said.

Yesterday, former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane added this on Obama’s non-response to the Benghazi 9-11 terrorist attack:

    “To have known what he had available, to have known that Americans were under fire, and to have done nothing, is dereliction of duty that I have never seen in a Commander in Chief from a president of any party. Outrageous.”

video at link (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/father-of-slain-benghazi-seal-to-obama-its-better-to-die-a-hero-than-live-a-coward-video/)

I can count on one hand how many times I have watched Geraldo at Large in the past 4 years...last night was 1.I wanted to see what kind of Benghazi coverage was on the cnn, msnbc and fox. fox was the only one that had Benghazi. At the beginning of his show he said he was going to have the father on so i had to watch...he also had a general that said the USA had no way to save anyone at that site in the 7 hours it was impossible for us to have that ability....after watching that I almost didn't want to watch anymore.

It was great to see the father say this...Geraldo even kissed the guy...weird.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 02:05:17 PM
Former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane: For Obama to Do Nothing During Benghazi Attack is “Dereliction of Duty” (Video)

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The men on the ground called for help – Obama did nothing.
It Was Dereliction of Duty

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Former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane told FOX News today:

    “You don’t just passively allow Americans to remain under attack for eight hours at a time when you have forces within range and do nothing. The Secretary of Defense was in the White House at five o’clock within an hour of when the attacks started. He could have told him, “Yes. We have special operations peope and F18 aircraft that could be deployed right away. To have known what he had available, to have known that Americans were under fire, and to have done nothing, is dereliction of duty that I have never seen in a Commander in Chief from a president of any party. Outrageous.”

More… This comes from reader Tom.

    Yesterday, a California radio show called The Dark Secret Place, hosted by Bryan Suits–a combat veteran of Desert Storm, Kosovo, and Iraq–interviewed a former member of the Combatant Commanders In-Extremis Force (CIF), which was in Italy. These are the “firefighters” of the U.S. military, who are always on call. Their gear and weaponry are always packed, and they’re used for precisely what happened in Benghazi. They could’ve been in Benghazi very quickly.

    This veteran says Panetta is lying about deciding that it was too risky to send in troops because they didn’t have enough information. The CIF is always sent in,

video and links here (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/former-national-security-adiviser-bud-mcfarlane-for-obama-to-do-nothing-during-benghazi-attack-is-dereliction-of-duty/)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 05:34:42 PM
Libyan brigade warns of "inferno" if U.S. intervenes

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(Reuters) - A Libyan Salafi group which has denied it was involved in a deadly assault on the American consulate in Benghazi said on Tuesday Libya would turn into "an inferno for U.S. troops" if the U.S. military retaliated.

Yousef Jehani, a senior member of Ansar al-Sharia, told Reuters that the armed group, which espouses an austere form of Islam, wanted to avoid confrontation but was ready for a showdown if Washington acted "foolishly".

Any U.S. military intervention could push Libyans to wage a holy war, or "jihad", to defend their nation, said Jehani, whose group is a powerful force in Benghazi, a stronghold for Islamists and cradle of the revolution which toppled Muammar Gaddafi last year.

"If one U.S. soldier arrives, not for the purpose of defending the embassy, but to repeat what happened in Iraq or Afghanistan, be sure that all battalions in Libya and all Libyans will put aside all their differences and rally behind one goal of hitting America and Americans," Jehani said.

The consulate attack was part of wider anti-American protests that erupted across the Middle East over an obscure, amateurish U.S.-made video that insulted the Prophet Mohammad.

Libya closed its air space over Benghazi airport temporarily due to heavy anti-aircraft fire by Islamists aiming at U.S. reconnaissance drones flying over the city, days after the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans died in the attack.

The closure of the airport prompted speculation that the United States was deploying special forces in preparation for an attack against the assailants of the consulate. Two U.S. warships headed for the coast off Libya.

DRONES OVER BENGHAZI

A Libyan official said the spy planes flew over the embassy compound and the city, where Ansar al-Sharia controls a major security compound and a hospital, taking photos and inspecting locations of radical militant groups suspected of planning and staging the attack on the U.S.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/18/us-libya-islamists-idUSBRE88H0T520120918


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 05:58:26 PM
Benghazi - October Surprise

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Clare Lopez: You mean as far as the Administrations characterization of the attack?

 

GA: Yes, I uploaded a video less than 24 hours after the attack on YouTube, thank God YouTube has dates, I uploaded a video saying that Al-Qaeda was behind this.

 

CL: Yes, I wrote an article that night as a matter of fact, which ran the very next day on September the 12th on RadicalIslam.org. I was up late the night of 9/11 writing that article, so it was obvious to me too.

 

GA: I have heard from 3 people and tell me if you are aware of this as well, that The White House, the Pentagon, the State Department, and our military monitored the battle in real time starting with the first phone calls directly from Benghazi.

 

CL: Yes.

 

GA: When the CIA annex requested permission to go to the aid of the consulate they were told two times to “stand down”.

 

CL: Correct.

 

GA: Two SEALs went in against orders…

 

CL: Former SEALs, former SEALs that were on contract to the CIA.

 

GA: Correct, former SEALs, they went anyway, against orders and died about 4 hours later.

 

CL: They died at the annex building after they saved everyone that was still alive at the first compound; they went back with all of them to the annex building, it was there that the attack continued; it never stopped. They were fired upon during the entire ride running the gauntlet through the streets back to the annex and the attack then continued at the annex and that’s where they were eventually killed.

 

GA: Right, so they arrived back at the annex at about midnight which would have been about three hours after the initial attack began.

 

CL: Yes.

 

GA: Okay, that’s important because of some other things that have come out. At that point they again called for military support and help and a third time were denied.

 

CL: Yeah.

 

GA: Regardless that they were taking fire at the CIA safe house or annex, that request was denied. There were no communication problems at the annex according to those that were present on the ground.

 

CL: That’s right.

 

GA: The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters and in fact at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun while mortars were being fired on them and the CIA compound.

 

CL: Yes, Woods was up there. Tyrone Woods, he was the one on the roof.

 

GA: Now Tyrone Woods father has come out and is saying that his son had taken a position with a laser to guide in what would have been planes, drones or missile support. So he was there honed in on a target waiting for back up that never arrived?

 

CL: Yeah.

 

GA: The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than 4 hours and now here’s the point, the Sigonella Naval Air base in Italy is only 480 miles away…

 

CL: Yeah, they could have gotten there in time.

 

GA: Okay, so by f-18 it’s under an hour but even with a C-130 carrying commandos it’s 2 hours away.

 

CL: I’d say even less maybe, but yeah. I was thinking a Spectre AC-130 gunship.

 

GA: Yes, the AC-130 gunship that has the Gatling gun in the side, it’s like a tornado…

 

CL: Yeah, it’s unbelievably lethal, devastating power and accuracy, I mean pinpoint accuracy, the technology is amazing.

 

GA: I read yesterday that two Tier One Special Operations groups were at Sigonella including Delta Force which happened to be training in Europe.

 

CL: Yes, I read that too.

 

GA: More information has come out that no less than two drones were overhead during the attack and one of those drones was actually ordered in from Tripoli and sending back images in real time.

 

CL: Yes, my understanding is that the one was replaced by the other, maybe it ran out of fuel and the second one came in and took its place.

 

GA: Okay, so this battle was sent on video directly to the ‘Situation Room’ at the White House, would that not be a proper assumption?

 

CL: Yes, yes it was.

 

GA: Just the other day, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said,
There was no “real-time information” to be able to act on, “and you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on. We felt we could not put forces at risk in that situation”.
Isn’t that what the military does?

 

CL: That’s what their supposed to do. And that’s one of the things that the military does, everywhere, everywhere around the world, whether they be land based or on a ship, whatever it may be, they practice over and over again repeatedly the rescue of civilians and the rescue of embassy personnel in each area wherever it is that they’re posted. They have drills, they have plans, they have practice situations, and they have
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/benghazi-october-surprise


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 07:18:14 PM

Early briefings on Libya strike focused on Al Qaeda, before story changed




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Two days after the deadly Libya terror attack, representatives of the FBI and National Counterterrorism Center gave Capitol Hill briefings in which they said the evidence supported an Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda-affiliated attack, Fox News has learned.

The description of the attack by those in the Sept. 13 briefings stands in stark contrast to the now controversial briefing on Capitol Hill by CIA Director David Petraeus the following day -- and raises even more questions about why Petraeus described the attack as tied to a demonstration.

The Sept. 13 assessment was based on intercepts that included individuals, believed to have participated in the attack, who were celebratory -- as well as a claim of responsibility.

FBI and NCTC also briefed that there were a series of Al Qaeda training camps just outside of Benghazi, where the attack occurred and resulted in the deaths of four Americans. The area was described as a hotbed for the militant Ansar al-Sharia as well as Al Qaeda in North Africa.

Fox News is told there was no mention of a demonstration or any significant emphasis on the anti-Islam video that for days was cited by administration officials as a motivating factor.

Fox News is told that the Petraeus briefing on Sept. 14 conflicted with that of the FBI and NCTC.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/29/early-briefing-on-libya-strike-focused-on-al-qaeda-before-story-changed/#ixzz2Ajklm0Oi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
The Three Benghazi Timelines We Need Answers About

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By JAMES ROSEN

'I do not think," Nixon campaign aide Jeb Magruder told the Senate Watergate committee in the spring of 1973, "there was ever any discussion that there would not be a coverup." Mr. Magruder's lament aptly described the bureaucratic impulse to hide inconvenient facts that seizes every modern White House at some point. His testimony was brought to mind by the growing number of high-profile Republicans accusing the Obama White House of engaging in a coverup in the Benghazi case.

Much remains unknown about the terrorist attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11. To fill in those gaps, three separate probes—by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the State Department's Accountability Review Board, and various congressional committees—are now under way. But in our warp-speed information age, enough evidence has already accrued to the record to lead even dispassionate observers to ponder whether the term "coverup" applies.

William Safire, the late New York Times columnist—and one of the few senior Nixon aides to escape Watergate unsullied—once defined coverup broadly to include "any plan to avoid detection of wrongdoing . . . an act to conceal a mistake."

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The U.S. Consulate in Benghazi after being attacked on September 11.

Today, the issue is not so much the withholding of information as the denial of the obvious: The stubborn insistence by top Obama administration officials on an interpretation of events starkly at odds with the plainly correct conclusion of terrorism. When White House Press Secretary Jay Carney finally acknowledged that the terrorism conclusion was "self-evident" after he had spent the previous eight days pressing a wholly different account of events, Mr. Carney's admission carried strong echoes of Nixon-era Press Secretary Ron Ziegler declaring that his earlier Watergate statements were "inoperative."

Any coverup is attended by competing timelines: the acts of transgression, and the subsequent efforts to conceal or mislead or delay knowledge regarding those events. A famous theme of the Watergate hearings was the quest of investigators into the coverup to find out, as the saying became, what did they know and when did they know it?

The Benghazi episode is best viewed as a series of three timelines. When fully exposed, the facts of the "pre" period before the attacks will tell us how high up the chain, and in which agencies, fateful decisions were made about security precautions for the consulate and annex in Benghazi. We also stand to learn how the planning for the attacks could have been put in motion without being detected until too late.

Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb, who oversees diplomatic security, testified before the House on Oct. 10 that she and her colleagues had placed "the correct number of assets in Benghazi at the time of 9/11 for what had been agreed upon." While not the stuff of a perjury charge, this testimony cannot be true, given the known outcome of the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate and the pleas for enhanced security measures that we now know Foggy Bottom to have rebuffed.

The second Benghazi timeline encompasses the five or six hours on the evening of Sept. 11 when the attacks transpired. A State Department briefing on Oct. 9 offered an account that was riveting but incomplete. When all of the facts of these hours are compiled, we will have a truer picture of the tactical capabilities of al Qaeda and its affiliates in North Africa. We will also learn what really happened to Amb. Stevens that night, and better appreciate the vulnerabilities with which our diplomatic corps, bravely serving at 275 installations across the globe, must still contend.

The third and final Benghazi timeline is the one that has fostered charges of a coverup. It stretches eight days—from 3:40 p.m. on Sept. 11, when the consulate was first rocked by gunfire and explosions, through the morning of Sept. 19, when Matthew G. Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, publicly testified before the Senate that Benghazi was a terrorist attack.

Mr. Olsen's testimony effectively ended all debate about whether the attacks had grown out of a protest over an anti-Islam video. Three days before Mr. Olsen put a stop to the blame-YouTube storyline, U.N. Amb. Susan Rice, echoing Mr. Carney, had gone on five Sunday TV chat shows and maintained that the YouTube video has spurred the violence.

If the Obama White House has engaged in a coverup in the Benghazi case, the ostensible motivation would bear some similarity to that of all the president's men in Watergate. Mr. Obama faces a rendezvous with the voters on Nov. 6, and in a race much tighter than the Nixon-McGovern contest of 1972. In such a circumstance, certain kinds of disclosure are always unwelcome.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444868204578062420490836106.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 29, 2012, 07:44:14 PM
Armed Services Chair Demands of Obama: Whom Did You Order to Do What on 9/11/12?

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“There appears to be a discrepancy between your directive and the actions taken by the Department of Defense," said in his letter to Obama. "As we are painfully aware, despite the fact that the military had resources in the area, the military did not deploy any assets to secure U.S. personnel in Benghazi during the hours the consulate and the annex were under attack. I find it implausible that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Commander of U.S. Africa Command, and the Commander of U.S. European Command would have ignored a direct order from the Commander in Chief.”

McKeon than listed four questions he is demanding that Obama answer:

1) “To whom did you issue this first directive and how was this directive communicated to the military and other agencies--verbally or in writing?“

2) "At any time on September 11, 2012, did you specifically direct the military to move available assets into Libya to ensure the safety of U.S. personnel in Benghazi? If so, which assets did you order to Libya?

3) "At any time on September 11, 2012, other than ISR assets, did you provide the authority for the military to take any and all necessary measures to secure U.S. personnel, including specifically the authority to enter Libyan airspace?

4) "Did you have any communication with the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or any Commanders of regional Combatant Commands regarding military support to U.S. personnel in Benghazi on September 11th? If so could you please describe any recommendations provided to you regarding available military support and any orders you gave them?"

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/armed-services-chair-demands-obama-whom-did-you-order-do-what-91112


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 30, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Obama Met With Panetta, Biden on 9/11/12 55 Minutes After State Notified WH of Benghazi Attack

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The meeting between Obama, Panetta and Biden had been scheduled before the attack took place, and the Department Defense is not commenting now on whether the three men were aware when they met that day of the ongoing Benghazi attack or whether Obama used that meeting to discuss with his defense secretary what should be done to defend the U.S. personnel in Benghazi.

“Secretary Panetta met with President Obama, as the White House-provided scheduled indicates,” Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale told CNSNews.com on Tuesday. “However, neither the content nor the subject of discussions between the President and his advisors are appropriate for disclosure.”

The fact that the president had been scheduled to meet with Vice President Biden and Defense Secretary Panetta at 5:00 p.m. on Sept. 11 had been publicized on the Washington Daybook--a planning service to which news orgnizations subscribe--and included on the official White House schedule posted online by the White House itself.

The State Department email notifying the White House and Pentagon of the Sept. 11 Benghazi attack was obtained and reported by CBS News.

The terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began at about 9:40 p.m. Benghazi time—or about 3:40 p.m. Washington, D.C. time. “The attack began at approximately 9:40 p.m. local time,” Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in written testimony submitted Oct. 10.

About 25 minutes after the attack started—at 4:05 p.m. Washington, D.C. time—the State Department sent an email that went to multiple recipients, including two at the White House and one at the Pentagon.

The subject line on this email said: “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.” The text of the email said: “The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and our COM personnel are in the compound safe haven.” It went on to say: “The Operations Center will provide updates as available.”

In her testimony to the Oversight Committee, Charlene Lamb indicated that not long after the attack started, she was able to monitor it from Washington, D.C., in “almost real time.”

“When the attack began, a Diplomatic Security agent working in the Tactical Operations Center immediately activated the Imminent Danger Notification System and made an emergency announcement over the PA,” Lamb testified. “Based on our security protocols, he also alerted the annex U.S. quick reaction security team stationed nearby, the Libyan 17th February Brigade, Embassy Tripoli, and the Diplomatic Security Command Center in Washington. From that point on, I could follow what was happening in almost real-time.”

According to Lamb, three U.S. agents used an armored car to approach the safe haven at the U.S. consulate to rescue a U.S. security agent on the roof of the facility and also to try to retrieve Amb. Chris Stevens and Sean Smith, an Air Force veteran and State Department communications specialist.

“Despite thick smoke, the agents entered the building multiple times trying to locate the Ambassador and Mr. Smith,” Lamb testified. “After numerous attempts, they found Sean Smith and, with the assistance of members of the U.S. quick reaction team, removed him from the building. Unfortunately, he was already deceased. They still could not find the Ambassador.”

It was not until 11:00 p.m. Benghazi time—or just as Obama’s 5:00 p.m. meeting with Panetta and Biden was starting in Washington, D.C.—that the U.S. security agents in Benghazi decided to abandon the main consulate facility there.

“At 11 p.m. members of the Libyan 17th February Brigade advised they could no longer hold the area around the main building and insisted on evacuating the site,” Lamb testified. “The agents made a final search for the Ambassador before leaving in an armed vehicle.

But the battle was far from over.

“Upon arriving at the annex around midnight, they took up defensive positions, including on the roof,” Lamb testified. “Shortly after their arrival, the annex itself began taking intermittent fire for a period of time.”

The battle continued, with the attackers now using mortars, and it was only in the “early morning” that two more Americans were killed and two more were wounded.

“In the early morning, an additional security team arrived from Tripoli and proceeded to the annex,” Lamb testified. “Shortly after they arrived, the annex started taking mortar fire, with as many as three direct hits on the compound. It was during this mortar attack that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed and a Diplomatic Security agent and an annex quick reaction security team member were critically wounded.”

Doherty and Woods were both former Navy Seals who served in both the Iraq and Afghan wars. They were working as U.S. security personnel in Libya.

When exactly did Obama learn that U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack and who did he order to do something about it? The White House is not saying.

“I can tell you, as I've said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives,” Obama told KUSA TV in Denver on Friday. “Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-met-panetta-biden-91112-55-minutes-after-state-notified-wh-benghazi-attack


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on October 30, 2012, 08:38:30 PM
Fox News said second drone came from Sicily (485 miles away) but was not armed (why not?)

here's the FR thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2952490/posts


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on October 30, 2012, 10:57:39 PM
There was air support in the area.  That's why Tyrone Woods was laser designating the mortar position when he was killed, so it could be targeted and taken out by air assets.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 31, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
Gingrich: Senator told me networks may have White House emails commanding counterterrorism group to stand down on Benghazi rescue

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On Tuesday night’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” on the Fox News Channel, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said that major news networks might have secret emails proving that the White House canceled plans to assist the besieged U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Gingrich said that the bombshell emails could be revealed within the next two days.

“There is a rumor — I want to be clear, it’s a rumor — that at least two networks have emails from the National Security Adviser’s office telling a counterterrorism group to stand down,” Gingrich said. “But they were a group in real-time trying to mobilize marines and C-130s and the fighter aircraft, and they were told explicitly by the White House stand down and do nothing. This is not a terrorist action. If that is true, and I’ve been told this by a fairly reliable U.S. senator, if that is true and comes out, I think it raises enormous questions about the president’s role, and Tom Donilon, the National Security Adviser’s role, the Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, who has taken it on his own shoulders, that he said don’t go. And that is, I think, very dubious, given that the president said he had instructions they are supposed to do everything they could to secure American personnel.”

After noting that the rumor, if true, would have a substantial impact on the presidential election, Gingrich pointed to another possible “October surprise” in the coming days.

“The other big story, I think, that is going to break is

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/31/gingrich-rumor-says-networks-have-white-house-emails-telling-counterterrorism-group-to-stand-down-on-benghazi-rescue/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 31, 2012, 04:29:19 PM
Update: Facebook Reverses, Allows SEALs' Post Critical of Obama

(http://www.breitbart.com/mediaserver/855D48A47B9B438F8A7F9AED8A76D985.jpg)

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UPDATE: Facebook Manager Andrew Noyes emailed the following to Breitbart News this morning: We wanted to follow up on the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) article published on Breitbart.com last night. I assure you that removing the image was not an act of censorship on our part. This was an error and we apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused.

Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.

The message was contained in a meme which demonstrated how Obama had relied on the SEALS when he was ready to let them get Osama bin Laden, and how he had turned around and denied them when they called for backup on Sept 11.

I spoke with Larry Ward, president of Political Media, Inc -- the media company that handles SOS postings and media production. Ward was the one who personally put the Navy SEAL meme up, and the one who received the warning from Facebook and an eventual 24 hour suspension from Facebook  because Ward put the meme back up after Facebook told him to take it down.

Here's what Ward told me:

We created and posted this meme on Saturday after news broke that Obama had known and denied SEALS the backup they requested.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/30/Facebook-Censors-Navy-SEALS-To-Protect-Obama-on-Benghazi-Gate


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on October 31, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
There is (or was) audio recording of them asking for help


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 31, 2012, 05:23:42 PM
There is (or was) audio recording of them asking for help
from what I hear it may be released this week.......


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 31, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
Cindy Sheehan Was Cheered, Charles Woods Is Ignored

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Libya: As the father of a former Navy SEAL slain at Benghazi wonders why our secretary of state lied to him, we wonder why our CIA director abetted a lie that contradicted counterterrorism officials and the FBI.

During the 2004 presidential campaign, a media eager to deny George W. Bush a second term made Cindy Sheehan, who lost a son in Iraq, a national heroine and reported virtually her every word and move.

"Cindy Sheehan," gushed NBC News, "is single-handedly bringing the Iraq debate to Mr. Bush's doorstep."

But nobody in a mainstream media eager to see President Obama get a second term is bringing the Benghazi debate to the White House doorstep. On all the Sunday talk shows, when Benghazi was brought up, the moderator quickly changed subjects.

On CNN's "State of the Union," Candy Crowley, who came to the aid of President Obama on Benghazi during the second presidential debate, sloughed off attempts by two GOP officials to broach Benghazi.

When Newt Gingrich raised Benghazi on ABC's "This Week," host George Stephanopoulos quickly changed topics. NBC's David Gregory cut off GOP panelist Carly Fiorina when she brought up Benghazi, promising to "get to that a little later." Of course, he never did.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/103012-631381-cindy-sheehan-cheered-charles-woods-ignored.htm


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 31, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
The mysterious media Benghazi bugout

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Where is the Benghazi media feeding frenzy?

I don’t think there’s a conspiracy at work. Rather, I think journalists tend to act on their instincts. And, collectively, the mainstream media’s instincts run liberal.

In 2000, a Democratic operative orchestrated an “October surprise” attack on George W. Bush, revealing that 24 years earlier, he’d been arrested for drunken driving. The media went into a feeding frenzy.

“Is all the 24-hour coverage of Bush’s 24-year-old DUI arrest the product of a liberal media almost drunk on the idea of sinking him, or is it a legitimate, indeed unavoidable news story?” asked Howard Kurtz on his CNN show “Reliable Sources.” The consensus among the guests: It wasn’t a legitimate news story. But the media kept going with it.

One could go on and on. In September 2004, former CBS titan Dan Rather gambled his entire career on a story about Bush’s service in the National Guard. His instincts were so powerful, he didn’t thoroughly check the documents he relied on, which were forgeries.

Oh, there have been conservative feeding frenzies: about Barack Obama’s pastor, John Kerry’s embellishments of his war record, etc. But the mainstream media usually tasks itself with debunking and dispelling such “hysteria.”

Last week, Fox News correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported that sources on the ground in Libya say they pleaded for support during the attack on the Benghazi consulate that led to the deaths of four Americans. They were allegedly told twice to “stand down.” Worse, there are suggestions that significant military resources were available to counterattack, but requests for help were denied.

If true, the White House’s concerted effort to blame the attack on a video crumbles, as do several other fraudulent claims. Yet, last Friday, the president boasted, “The minute I found out what was happening” in Benghazi, he ordered that everything possible be done to protect our personnel. That’s either untrue, or he’s being disobeyed on grave matters.

Yet Fox News is alone in treating the story like it’s a big deal. During the less significant Valerie Plame scandal, reporters camped out on the front lawns of Karl Rove and other Bush White House staff. Did Obama confiscate those journalists’ sleeping bags?

Of the five news shows last Sunday, only “Fox News Sunday” treated this as a major story. On the other four, the issue came up only when Republicans mentioned it.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_mysterious_media_benghazi_bugout_BcSb3qr5XhCps5Lr5fZeyK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Oped%20Columnists


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn't withstand 'coordinated attack'

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The U.S. Mission in Benghazi convened an “emergency meeting” less than a month before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, because Al Qaeda had training camps in Benghazi and the consulate could not defend against a “coordinated attack,” according to a classified cable reviewed by Fox News.

Summarizing an Aug. 15 emergency meeting convened by the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Aug. 16 cable marked “SECRET” said that the State Department’s senior security officer, also known as the RSO, did not believe the consulate could be protected.

“RSO (Regional Security Officer) expressed concerns with the ability to defend Post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, weapons capabilities, host nation support, and the overall size of the compound,” the cable said.

According to a review of the cable addressed to the Office of the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Emergency Action Committee was also briefed "on the location of approximately ten Islamist militias and AQ training camps within Benghazi … these groups ran the spectrum from Islamist militias, such as the QRF Brigade and Ansar al-Sharia, to ‘Takfirist thugs.’” Each U.S. mission has a so-called Emergency Action Committee that is responsible for security measures and emergency planning.

The details in the cable seemed to foreshadow the deadly Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. compound, which was a coordinated, commando-style assault using direct and indirect fire. Al Qaeda in North Africa and Ansar al-Sharia, both mentioned in the cable, have since been implicated in the consulate attack.

In addition to describing the security situation in Benghazi as “trending negatively,” the cable said explicitly that the mission would ask for more help. “In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover.”

As for specific threats against the U.S., the cable warned the intelligence was not clear on the issue, cautioning that the militias in Benghazi were not concerned with any significant retaliation from the Libyan government, which had apparently lost control in Benghazi. A briefer explained that they “did not have information suggesting that these entities were targeting Americans but did caveat that (there was not) a complete picture of their

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/31/exclusive-us-memo-warned-libya-consulate-couldnt-withstand-coordinated-attack/

Just when you think you cannot get more upset about this.................................................I saw Catherine  on Greta's show last evening.. pissed me off then as well.  4 murdered on your watch Barack..........it was you or someone in your administration that knew they were sitting ducks. Someone needs to pay for it.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Former Libyan PM: Obama's 'Mission Accomplished' Moment Resulted in Benghazi

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Did Barack Obama have a "Mission Accomplished" moment with dreadful consequences in Libya? Libya's former Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril believes he did.

Perhaps you'll recall when George W. Bush stood on the flight deck of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln and a banner positioned behind him read "Mission Accomplished" regarding Iraq on May 1, 2003. It was a moment that haunted him throughout the rest of his presidency and beyond, as the Iraq War continued on for eight and a half more years.

And just as many Democrats say Bush made a premature call after the sacking of Baghdad and the toppling of the Hussein regime, so too the former Libyan PM says Obama counted his eggs before they hatched.

Jibril has "accused the United States and its NATO allies of high-tailing it out of [Libya] as soon as dictator Moammar Gadhafi was disposed a year ago." He says the quick departure created "a power vacuum" that has allowed radicals, like those who attacked the Benghazi

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/31/Former-Libyan-PM-Benghazi-The-Result-Of-Obama-s-Mission-Accomplished-Moment


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
It Wasn’t Just Four Americans Abandoned in Benghazi

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The few media that are covering the abandonment of Americans in Benghazi have focused — and not without merit — on the four Americans that perished over the course of the seven-hour battle.

Ambassador Chris Stevens and diplomat Sean Smith were not the only Americans in the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, however, a fact some of us have lost sight of in our focus on the dead. Nor were Glen Doherty and Ty Woods the only casualties among the forces that disobeyed orders from the Obama administration not to rescue the consulate staff.

When terrorists surrounded the consulate at approximately 8:00 p.m. Benghazi time with 150 men and “technicals” — pickup trucks with heavy machine guns, bearing the logo of Ansar al-Shariah — Stevens and Smith were part of a larger American delegation numbering somewhere between 7-24.

We’re forced to say “approximately” because it has been difficult to determine through media accounts the exact number of Americans inside the consulate.

We do know that at least three other consulate staff members [1] were seriously injured enough in the initial attack that they were treated at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany. Two more consulate staff members were apparently injured in the attack on the CIA safe house which also killed Glen Doherty and Ty Woods.

What we can be sure of is that as the consulate was under fire from a large terrorist force, the lives of a minimum of seven American diplomats were put at risk as President Barack Obama allegedly watched the attack live [2] in the White House Situation Room via the satellite video link to an unarmed Predator drone circling overhead.

We now know that the small CIA force on a separate mission, occupying a safe house a mile away, called in to their superiors for reinforcements. We know that this force twice asked for permission to attempt a rescue mission. We know that they were twice told to “stand down.”

Ty Woods, a former SEAL who was part of the CIA force in Benghazi, was among those in this team of operators who disobeyed their orders and put honor over political cowardice to carry out a rescue mission to evacuate the survivors.

Once the consulate staff had been evacuated back to the safe house, they were protected by Woods’ local CIA team, the eight-man CIA team that had flown in from Tripoli, and a force of Libyans that had driven Doherty and the rest of his team from the airport and which would cover the extraction.

We don’t know the exact breakdown of which Americans belonged to each specific group beyond the size of the eight-man team to which Doherty belonged, but the total number of Americans in the CIA safe house was at least 24, and may have been as high as 32 when the attack on that position began.

Once again, at least one Predator drone was overhead, transmitting video of the attack in real time to the White House and State Department for at least part of the time.

We know that CIA operators defending the site “lased” a terrorist mortar crew more than six hours into the attack. Military experts not on-site have asserted (but we cannot confirm) that the mortar team appears to have been targeted with a ground laser target designator [3] (GLTD). The GLTD can direct laser-guided munitions from Predator drones, AC-130 and MC-130 airborne gunships, such as the one that a Fox News source [4] may have been referring to with a reference to repeated requests for supporting fore from a “Spectre.”

A former military fighter pilot tells PJ Media that if a GTLD were used, it could have provided exact GPS coordinates for precision guided bombs, called JDAMS, carried by Air Force and Navy fighter aircraft which could have been on-site over Benghazi within an hour of the initial assault, and which could have been dropped with little threat of collateral damage and very low risk to the aircraft itself, since they can be dropped from stand-off distances.

The White House has not been forthcoming in explaining why at least seven American diplomats were abandoned in the Benghazi consulate to die while the president allegedly watched video of the attack.

The White House has refused to explain why they denied close air support to two dozen or more Americans and additional government forces at the CIA safe house who were under mortar fire, had the mortar team fixed with a laser, and repeatedly called for the terrorist position to be struck.

American lives were abandoned while a sitting U.S. president allegedly watched.

The American people deserve to know why, before the 2012 election.

http://pjmedia.com/blog/it-wasnt-just-four-americans-abandoned-in-benghazi/?print=1


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
Why Haven’t We Seen a Photo Like This from the Night of the Benghazi Assault? (Updated)

(http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2012/10/obama-sandy-sitroom.jpg)

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The Obama White House released a similar photo from the Situation Room, said to have been snapped during the mission that killed Osama bin Laden.

But we haven’t seen a similar photo from Sept. 11, 2012, the night terrorists murdered four Americans during an assault on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

Why?

We now know that he was in the White House that day, and met with his vice president and defense secretary as the battle was going on. We know that emails came into the White House Situation Room from the field detailing the attack and its origins.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/31/why-havent-we-seen-a-photo-like-this-from-the-night-of-the-bengazi-assault/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
YOU HAVE THE BLOOD OF AN AMERICAN HERO ON YOUR HANDS’

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What did President Barack Obama know and when did he know it? Why has the Obama administration kept changing its story about how Ambassador Chris Stevens, security officials Tyrone Woods of Imperial Beach and Glen Doherty of Encinitas, and information officer Sean Smith, who grew up in San Diego, died on Sept. 11 in Benghazi, Libya? Why won’t the mainstream media treat the incontrovertible evidence of the White House’s dishonesty and incompetence like the ugly scandal it obviously is?

These are all questions that demand to be answered after revelations that demolished the tidy narrative the president has been offering about Benghazi.

Until last week, the White House had taken a moderate hit over the fact that for two weeks after it happened, officials had fostered the impression that the four Americans were killed Sept. 11 in a spontaneous protest triggered by a blasphemous anti-Islam video posted on YouTube – not by a coordinated terrorist attack on the 11th anniversary of 9/11. But administration officials pushed back by saying the “fog of war” had left them uncertain about events, and that when White House press secretary Jay Carney and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice had cited the video, they were only repeating the best available information they had. The president’s repeated comments conveyed the impression that he wasn’t aware of the attacks as they were unfolding, saying only that the next day, he ordered increased security for embassies in the area.

But after a torrent of leaks of official emails and communiqués – likely coming from CIA officials who refuse to participate in a cover-up and/or who won’t accept the role of scapegoat – the “fog of war” narrative looks like damage control: a determined attempt to keep the facts from the public until after the Nov. 6 election. After the leaks, the president suddenly changed his story to say he was aware of the attacks as they unfolded and had quickly issued an order to “make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.”

There was no “fog.” There was no spontaneous uprising. Thanks to a drone and other surveillance technology, the White House’s national security team knew in real time that the U.S. consulate and a “safe house” a mile away in Benghazi were under coordinated attack by a well-armed group, not from a protest that unexpectedly escalated. Over a seven-hour span on Sept. 11, the besieged Americans made at least two urgent requests for help; the U.S. military has considerable assets in the area that could have been deployed to Benghazi.

Who told the besieged Americans they were out of luck?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/oct/31/tp-you-have-the-blood-of-an-american-hero-on-your/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Libyan cop was caught photographing inside of US consulate in Benghazi on morning of September 11, TV report says

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 Libyan policeman was caught photographing the inside of the US Consulate in Benghazi on the morning of September 11, hours before US Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed in a terror attack there, and worried US consular staff complained to the Libyan Foreign Ministry over the security breach, an Arabic TV station reported on Thursday, quoting from letters found at the consulate after it was attacked.


A document shown in the Alaan TV report broadcast November 1. (photo credit: MEMRI screenshot)

Alaan TV, a channel based in the United Arab Emirates, said the letters also showed that the Americans had been urging the Libyan authorities to provide special security arrangements for Stevens’ visit — including a 24-hour police guard at the front and rear gates of the consulate, a mobile patrol and a bomb-sniffing dog — but these requests were not granted. The consulate was left for many hours “with no police support at all,” one letter complained.

In excerpts of the TV broadcast recorded and translated by MEMRI (the Middle East Media Research Institute), Alaan TV said it was basing its report on documents written by US consulate staff on September 11 and found “in the Tactical Operations Center building” of the consulate.

The report referred to two letters — one addressed to the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the other, almost identical in content, addressed to the Benghazi police chief.

“In the letters, the Americans complained about an incident that occurred on the morning of September 11, an incident they described as ‘troubling’,” the report said.

It quoted from one of the letters, as follows: “‘Early this morning, on September 11, 2011 [sic], at precisely 06:43, one of our diligent guards

http://www.timesofisrael.com/libyan-cop-was-caught-photographing-inside-of-us-consulate-in-benghazi-on-morning-of-september-11-tv-report-says/

Arab/Muslim Media exposes US failure in Libya attack, shames American media NY Times, LA Times, ABC, NBC, CNN cover-up

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You know how desperate the state of the American media is when Arab/Muslim media is covering the jihad in Libya while the American enemedia is covering it up (save for FOX News). America is under siege by the fourth estate.
"Arab TV Report Exposes Lax Security At U.S. Consulate In Benghazi Prior To Ambassador Stevens' Arrival And Security Breach Prior To Attack – Revealed By Documents Gathered At Consulate Following Attack" MEMRI

On November 1, 2012, Alaan TV, a UAE channel, stated in a report on the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that letters found inside the consulate, written by the U.S. Consular staff and addressed to the Libyan Foreign Ministry and the Benghazi police chief, revealed security breaches at the consulate. According to the letters, not only had a Libyan policeman photographed the compound 15 hours prior to the attack, but the Libyan government had not provided the security at the consulate requested by the consular staff prior to Ambassador Chris Stevens' arrival in Benghazi. According to the report, the letter stated, "We are saddened to report that we have only received an occasional police presence at our main gate. Many hours pass when we have no police support at all."

Alaan TV, which operates from Dubai, began broadcasting in August 2006. It states that its aim is the cultural enrichment of Arab women, and it has often focused on Al-Qaeda and other terror organization from a critical point of view, inter alia interviewing family members of jihadi leaders.

Following are excerpts from the report.

Click here to view this clip on MEMRI TV.

"The Letters Read As Follows: 'Early This Morning, On September 11... A Member Of The [Libyan] Police Force Was Seen... Photographing The Inside Of The U.S. Consulate'"

photos and links here (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/arabmuslim-media-exposes-us-failure-in-libya-attack-shames-american-media-ny-times-la-times-abc-nbc-.html)



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 01, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Libyan cop was caught photographing inside of US consulate in Benghazi on morning of September 11, TV report says

http://www.timesofisrael.com/libyan-cop-was-caught-photographing-inside-of-us-consulate-in-benghazi-on-morning-of-september-11-tv-report-says/

Arab/Muslim Media exposes US failure in Libya attack, shames American media NY Times, LA Times, ABC, NBC, CNN cover-up

photos and links here (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/arabmuslim-media-exposes-us-failure-in-libya-attack-shames-american-media-ny-times-la-times-abc-nbc-.html)

2:54:09 PM) vile_rat: assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures

http://themittani.com/news/rip-vile-rat


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 12:06:46 PM
Sources, emails point to communication breakdown in Obama administration during Libya attack

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Senior counterterrorism officials felt cut out of the loop the night of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, according to emails that were shared with Fox News by military sources who are familiar with discussions of how to respond the night of the Sept. 11 attack.

Top State Department officials decided not to send an interagency rapid response unit designed to respond to terrorist attacks known as a FEST team, a Foreign Emergency Support Team. This team from the State Department and CIA has a military Joint Special Operations Command element to it and has been routinely deployed to assist in investigations -- for instance, after the USS Cole bombing and the bombings at the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

That team, these counterterrorism officials argue, could have helped the FBI gain access to the site in Benghazi faster. It ultimately took the FBI 24 days.

"The response process was isolated at the most senior level," according to one intelligence source. "Counterterrorism professionals were not consulted and a decision was taken to send the FBI on its own without the enablers that would have allowed its agents to gain access to the site in Benghazi in a timely manner." The FBI team did not get on the ground in Benghazi for several weeks after the attack and at that point any "evidence" had been rifled through by looters and journalists.

"A better response approach could have certainly allowed the FBI to access the site much sooner than the 24 days it would eventually take," a source in the counterterrorism community said. 

Further, the Counterterrorism Security Group, or CSG, was never asked to meet that night or in subsequent days, according to two separate counterterrorism officials, as first reported by CBS News. The CSG is composed of experts on terrorism from across government agencies and makes recommendations to the deputies who assist the president's Cabinet in formulating a response to crises involving terrorism.

National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Fox News, "the most senior people in government worked on this issue from the minute it happened. That includes the Secretary of Defense, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Secretary of State, National Security advisor, etcetera. Additionally, the Deputies Committee -- the second in command at the relevant national security agencies -- met at least once and more often twice a day to manage the issue."

But the latest revelations, including reporting by Fox News that the State Department was warned a month before the attack that the consulate could not withstand a coordinated strike, have sparked renewed criticisms from top GOP lawmakers.

"Enough already, Mr. President," Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. said in a statement. "You need to address the American people and account for your leadership in the attack on our Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. You should explain to the American people what you knew, when you knew it,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/sources-emails-point-to-communication-breakdown-in-obama-administration-during/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 12:08:20 PM

Fox News: Benghazi consulate warned 3 hours before attack of militia gathering arms


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Remember how the White House insisted for more than a week that there was “no evidence” that the sacking of the Benghazi consulate was anything more than a spontaneous demonstration over a two-month-old YouTube video that “spun out of control”?  Fox News this morning reports that cables from the consulate itself made clear that they expected an attack from local militia groups in the hours before the terrorist attack that claimed the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. They also told the State Department that they had reason to believe their local security was gathering intel for the attack:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/02/fox-news-benghazi-consulate-warned-3-hours-before-attack-of-militia-gathering-arms/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 12:15:34 PM
Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack

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CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).


"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."


Information shared with CBS News from top counterterrorism sources in the government and military reveal keen frustration over the U.S. response on Sept. 11, the night Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in a coordinated attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya.


The circumstances of the attack, including the intelligence and security situation there, will be the subject of a Senate Intelligence Committee closed hearing on Nov. 15, with additional hearings to follow.


Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack.


CBS News has agreed not to quote directly from the emails, and to protect the identities of the sources who hold sensitive counterterrorism posts within the State Department, the U.S. military and the Justice Department.


As to why the Counterterrorism Security Group was not convened, National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News "From the moment the President was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national security officials in governments. Members of the CSG were of course involved in these meetings and discussions to support their bosses."


 Absent coordination from Counterterrorism Security Group, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official says the response to the crisis became more confused. The official says the FBI received a call during the attack representing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and requesting agents be deployed. But he and his colleagues agreed the agents "would not make any difference without security and other enablers to get them in the country and synch their efforts with military and

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack/?pageNum=1&tag=page


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
New documents reveal events leading up to Benghazi attack

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Notations indicate the letter was intended for the head of the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Benghazi.


"... early this morning at 0643, September 11, 2012, one of our diligent guards made a troubling report. Near our main gate, a member of the police force was seen in the upper level of a building across from our compound. It is reported that this person was photographing the inside of the U.S. special mission and furthermore that this person was part of the police unit sent to protect the mission."


It goes on to ask for an investigation. It's unclear whether the letter was sent and what action may have been taken, but it reflects the continued security concerns of U.S. diplomats in Benghazi in the weeks and days leading up to the assault.


Another draft letter dated two days before the attack complains that requested police support for Ambassador Stevens' visit had not been supplied.


"...We requested daily, twenty-four hour police protection at the front and rear of the U.S. mission as well as a roving patrol. In addition we requested the services of a police explosive detection dog. We were given assurances from the highest authorities in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that all due support would be provided for Ambassador Stevens' visit to Benghazi. However, we are saddened to

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57544088/new-documents-reveal-events-leading-up-to-benghazi-attack/?tag=scrollShell;housing-Home


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
CIA sources: Obama ordered military not to help Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi


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According to blog site beforeitsnews.com, CIA sources have confirmed that President Barack Obama ordered military and intelligence assets not to defend or rescue ambassador Christopher Stevens as the American consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi were being attacked by terrorists last month.

Reports are also surfacing that claim White House officials, including the president, was fed real-time video footage from two aerial drones while the seven-hour long attack was underway. On Tuesday, talk show host Glenn Beck predicted Obama will eventually get impeached over his handling of the Libya attacks, an incident that resulted in the deaths

http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-sources-obama-ordered-military-not-to-help-ambassador-stevens-benghazi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 02, 2012, 01:32:55 PM
ABC and CBS Ignore Their Own Reporters As Benghazi Blackout Reaches 7 Days

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Sharyl Atkisson that same day was picked up by Real Clear Politics. But the millions of viewers who tune in to ABC’s World News and CBS Evening News were not permitted to hear these stories on the evening broadcasts.

 Media Research Center President Brent Bozell reacts:

The stories about the Benghazi terrorist attack written by ABC’s Jake Tapper and CBS’s Sharyl Atkisson clearly demonstrate that there are some serious journalists who believe this is a major story and are looking for answers from the Obama Administration. ABC’s World News’ and CBS Evening News’ refusal to present these stories to the millions of Americans who count on them as their primary source of news shows how corrupted they have become. They’re trying to rig this election for Barack Obama, deliberately spiking news stories even their top reporters believe to be important.

The litany of failures that led to the deaths of four brave Americans in Benghazi on September 11, and the contradictory answers, is long and getting longer, but the big question the Obama Administration must answer remains unasked by the liberal media: if the administration was repeatedly warned of danger, and requests for help were repeatedly turned down, and four brave Americans died, who is responsible for this catastrophe, and why did the Obama Administration dishonestly try to blame it all on a video?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2012/11/02/abc-and-cbs-ignore-their-own-reporters-benghazi-blackout-reach-7-days


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 03, 2012, 12:52:01 PM
MOTHER OF SEAL: 'I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA MURDERED MY SON'

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A father and a mother used the word “murder.” A brother said he won’t second-guess decisions made in the heat of battle.

The families of three Americans killed in the Sept. 11 U.S. consulate attack in Benghazi, Libya, are offering widely different reactions to recent reports that U.S. personnel issued several requests for help that were turned down.

Patricia Smith, the mother of slain State Department employee Sean Patrick Smith, is now blaming President Barack Obama for her son’s death.

“I believe that Obama murdered my son,” she said Thursday from the living room of her Clairemont home. “I firmly believe this.”

Patricia Smith, who voted for Obama in 2008 at the insistence of her son, said reporting by Fox News is the basis for much of her belief that Obama is ultimately responsible for her son’s death. She said Sean, who went to Mission Bay High School but lived abroad, was a fervent supporter of the president.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/02/tp-families-differ-on-us-response/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 03, 2012, 01:54:50 PM
Exclusive: Security officials on the ground in Libya challenge CIA account

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As details emerge of serious security issues before the attack on Sept. 11, Fox News is also beginning to hear more frustration from sources both on the ground in Benghazi and in the U.S. Multiple British and American sources insist there were other capabilities in the region and are mystified why none were used. Fox News was told there were not only armed drones that monitor Libyan chemical weapon sites in the area, but also F-18's, AC-130 aircraft and even helicopters that could have been dispatched in a timely fashion.   

British intelligence sources said that unarmed drones routinely flew over Benghazi every night in flight patterns and that armed drones which fly over chemical sites, some a short flight from Benghazi, "were always said to be on call." American sources confirmed this and questioned "why was a drone armed only with a camera dispatched?"

Another source added, "Why would they put a ragtag team together in Tripoli as first responders? This is not even what they do for a living. We had a first responder air base in Italy almost the same distance away." Despite the team arriving from Tripoli that night, sources said sufficient American back-up never came.

British sources on the ground in Benghazi said they are extremely frustrated by the attack and are still wondering why they weren't called for help. “We have more people on the ground here than the Americans and I just don't know why we didn't get the call?" one said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/03/exclusive-security-officials-on-ground-in-libya-challenge-cia-account/#ixzz2BBBtqnvF


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 03, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
Exclusive: Classified cable shows Benghazi consulate considered suspending operations, moving in with CIA

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he U.S. mission in Benghazi, at an "emergency meeting" less than a month before the Sept. 11 attack, drafted a contingency plan to suspend operations as security deteriorated -- and in the near-term, recommended that consulate operations be moved to the CIA annex about a mile away, according to a classified cable reviewed by Fox News.

The State Department's senior representative at the consulate told those at the Aug. 15 meeting that the security situation was "trending negatively" and reported "this daily pattern of violence would be the 'new normal' for the foreseeable future, particularly given the minimal capabilities" of the Libyan security forces.

With no apparent reason to believe conditions would improve, the cable notified the office of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the "Emergency Action Committee" was updating "Post's tripwires in light of the deteriorating security situation ... to include a 'suspension of operations' section."

The term "tripwire" refers to lines in the sand which, if crossed, cover personnel levels, security measures, and in this case, the extreme step of suspending operations.

The cable marked "SECRET" also said, of the possibility of moving the consulate operations: "Mission personnel could co-locate to the Annex (CIA outpost) if the security environment degraded suddenly. ... (There was agreement) to formal weekly meetings to discuss the security environment. ... In the longer term, we believe formal collocation with the (Annex) will greatly improve our security situation."

The warnings reflected a grave concern among officials on the ground that the Libyan militia charged with protecting the consulate had been compromised, perhaps even infiltrated by extremists.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/exclusive-classified-cable-shows-benghazi-consulate-considered-suspending/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 04, 2012, 01:22:39 PM
What laser capability did Benghazi team have?

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Sources who have debriefed the team that was at the CIA annex the night of the attack in Benghazi say that the CIA operators from the Global Response Staff, or GRS, were equipped with Mark 48 machine guns and had two types of laser capability. Each weapon had both a “passive” as well as a “visible” laser that could be used against the Libyan attackers.

The presence of laser capability on the roof of the CIA annex confirms what Fox News sources that night in Benghazi originally said, which is that they had laser capability and for 5 hours and 15 minutes were wondering where the usual overhead air support was, especially since, according to this source, they radioed from the annex beginning as early as midnight asking for it.

The presence of lasers raises more questions about why air support was not sent to Benghazi even protectively once it became clear that the fighting had followed the CIA rescue team back to the annex.

U.S. military officials say they "thought the fighting was over" after the team left the consulate and that there was a lull in the fighting.

Fox News has learned the guns were fitted with PEQ-15 lasers. The “passive” laser is not visible to the naked eye but can help team members identify hostile forces when the shooter is wearing NODS, or Night Observation Device attached to their helmet. The visible laser system places a red dot on the attacker and warns the attacker not to shoot, encouraging them to flee the scene. U.S. troops often use the visible laser to scare children or other civilians who find themselves in the middle of combat activity. When civilians see the laser they often back off in order not to be shot.

The GRS team that was present at the CIA annex provided security for the CIA station, as they do around the world. They are highly trained in countersurveillance, close target reconnaissance and in depth reconnaissance. Enemy fighters have learned in Afghanistan and Iraq to use their cell phones to follow or intercept these “passive” lasers without

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/what-laser-capability-did-benghazi-team-have/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 04, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
CIA Timeline Confirms: Woods and Doherty Killed in Benghazi 7Hrs After WH Told of Attack; Commercial Airliner Can Fly From London to Libya and Back in That Time



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(CNSNews.com) - What David Ignatius of The Washington Post describes as a “detailed CIA timeline” of the events that unfolded in Libya on Sept. 11, 2012 (and in the early hours of Sept. 12), confirms that former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were not killed until seven hours after the State Department informed the White House—in writing--that the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack and that U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens was in Benghazi where the attack was taking place.

The attack started at 3:40 p.m Washington, D.C. time. The State Department sent the White House an email at 4:05 pm with this subject line: “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.” The email said Amb. Stevens was in Benghazi.

According to the CIA timeline provided to the Washington Post and other news organizations, Woods and Doherty were killed by mortar fire while on the roof of a CIA facility in Benghazi between 11:15 p.m. and 11:26 p.m. Washington time—or between 5:15 a.m. and 5:26 a.m. Sept. 12 Benghazi time.

Between 4:05 p.m. Washington time, when the State Department emailed the White House that the U.S diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack, and 11:15 p.m., when Wood and Doherty were killed, more than seven hours passed.

On Expedia.com, British Airways is currently advertizing a non-stop flight from London to Libya on Nov. 15--via an Airbus A320--that is expected to have a duration of 3 hours and 30 minutes. That means that in the seven hours that elapsed between when the State Department informed the White House that the U.S. mission in Benghazi was under attack and when Woods and Doherty were killed, a common commercial airliner—not a military jet--could have flown from England to Libya and back.

White House National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, according to reporting by CBS News, personally informed President Obama of the ongoing attack in Benghazi before Obama went into a pre-scheduled 5:00 p.m. meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Vice President Joe Biden.

(On Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked the Defense Department whether this previously scheduled meeting between Obama and Panetta had in fact taken place, whether Panetta was aware at that time of the ongoing attack in Benghazi that the State Department had reported to both the Pentagon and the White House at 4:05 p.m., and whether the president had used that meeting to discuss with Panetta what should be done to defend the Americans in Benghazi. Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale, a department spokesman,

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cia-timeline-confirms-woods-and-doherty-killed-benghazi-7hrs-after-wh-told-attack


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 04, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
Axelrod: ‘I’m Not in the White House, Privy to All the Discussions’ on Benghazi

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David Axelrod was in the unfortunate position again today of having to defend the Obama administration’s unwillingness to answer questions about Benghazi. He did so by…not answering questions about Benghazi. On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace pressed Axelrod on whether the President knew about the earlier attacks on the Benghazi consulate and requests for enhanced security. Axelrod responded, in part:

I mean, I’m not in the White House, I’m not privy to all the discussions, but I can tell you this: this President is 100 percent committed to the people he sends overseas personally to represent this country. His the one who met those coffins when they came home, so any suggestion that he would not take the necessary steps to protect them, make some decision not to protect them, is just nonsense.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332432/axelrod-im-not-white-house-privy-all-discussions-benghazi-%5Bfield_authors-title-raw%5D#



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on November 04, 2012, 03:56:39 PM
the Obama reelection campaign has been calling the shots for this administration for two years.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 04, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
Armed Services Chairman Denounces White House Benghazi Cover-Up and Muzzling of Military Leaders

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President Obama should come clean with the American people about what exactly happened in Benghazi, according to the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Representative Buck McKeon (R-CA).

In fact, the President is the only one who has all those answers, McKeon says.

“The whole thing smacks of a cover-up,” he says. According to McKeon, the military has been muzzled by unprecedented orders not to provide information to Congress.

Benghazi, Libya, is where the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed on September 11, 2012, by a terrorist attack, which reportedly was monitored live for several hours by President Obama from the White House Situation Room.

listen to interview here (http://www.istook.com/pg/jsp/charts/audioMaster.jsp?dispid=301&pid=56438)

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/04/armed-services-chairman-denounces-white-house-benghazi-cover-up-and-muzzling-of-military-leaders/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on November 04, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
Pretty tough MSM blackout still in effect


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 05, 2012, 12:21:13 PM
Proof: Obama Refused to Call Benghazi 'Terror,' CBS Covered Up

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In an astonishing display of media malpractice, CBS News quietly released proof--two days before the election, far too late to reach the media and the public--that President Barack Obama lied to the public about the Benghazi attack, as well as about his later claim to have called the attack "terrorism" from the beginning.

CBS unveiled additional footage from its 60 Minutes interview with President Obama, conducted on Sep. 12 immediately after Obama had made his statement about the attacks in the Rose Garden, in which Obama quite clearly refuses to call the Benghazi an act of terror when asked a direct question by reporter Steve Kroft:

KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?

OBAMA: Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.  And we are going to be

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/05/Proof-Obama-Refused-to-Call-Benghazi-Terror-CBS-Covered-Up


What President Obama really said in that '60 Minutes' interview about Benghazi

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Now, we may know why.  Soon after that debate exchange, CBS released a previously unseen clip of an interview "60 Minutes'" Steve Kroft did with Obama on Sept. 12 -- the day after the Benghazi attack. 

The clip added to the previous sound that had been released and seemed to back up the president's claim that he was referring to the Benghazi attack as a terrorist act in the Rose Garden on Sept. 12. Here's what CBS put out Oct. 19, five weeks after the attack.

   KROFT: But there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades, that doesn’t sound like your normal demonstration.

   OBAMA:  As I said, we’re still investigating exactly what happened, I don’t want to jump the gun on this.   But your right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt.   And my suspicion is there are folks involved in this. Who were looking to target Americans from the start.  So we’re gonna make sure that our first priority is to get our folks out safe, make sure our embassies are secured around the world and then we are going to go after those folks who carried this out."

After the second debate back and forth, this seemed to back up the president's stance. The only problem? Kroft started his question with "but."

I always thought, it seems that he's following up on a question -- I wonder if there was a question before that question?

This week, we got the CIA timeline of events in which they detail all of the response of the CIA and what they put up the chain of command in the minutes and hours after the attack began.  Of all the details of the specific times the CIA contractors respond to the fight, I found this one most interesting:

"1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they've hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel who are on loan to the agency. They don't leave Benghazi airport until 4:30. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport, obtaining vehicles, and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they correctly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the Al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Shariah militia that mounted the consulate attack."

So the U.S. Ambassador to Libya is at the Benghazi hospital and suspected dead. The CIA contractors know that, but they can't get there because the hospital is surrounded by the Al Qaeda-linked group Ansar al Shariah, the "militia that mounted the consulate attack." 

This goes up the chain communication at 1:15 a.m. on Sept. 12.  The White House, the Situation Room, and all of those paying attention to intel channels know that the guys on the ground have determined the group that's behind this. It's the Al Qaeda-linked militia that are still fighting and have the hospital surrounded.

About 12 hours later -- before heading to Las Vegas for a campaign event -- Obama sits down for that "60 Minutes" interview with Steve Kroft. 

And Sunday night, 54 days after the attack and almost two weeks after putting out the first additional clip that appeared to back up the president after the second debate, CBS without fanfare posted the rest of the Benghazi question online -- the question before the question.

Remember this is from a president who has been saying he was calling Benghazi a terrorist attack from the very first moment in the Rose Garden. Also, remember what he said in the debate and notice the new part -- underlined in bold.

Click here to see the "60 Minutes" interview.

   KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?

   OBAMA: Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.  And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other. 

   KROFT: It’s been described as a mob action, but there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades, that doesn’t sound like your normal demonstration.

   OBAMA:  As I said, we’re still investigating exactly what happened, I don’t want to jump the gun on this.   But your right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt.  And my suspicion is there are folks involved in this. Who were looking to target Americans from the start.  So we’re gonna make sure that our first priority is to get our folks out safe, make sure our embassies are secured around the world and then we are going to go after those folks who carried this out.

   KROFT: There have been reports, obviously this isn’t the first time…there have been attacks on the consulate before. There was an attack against the British ambassador. Do you…this occurred on Sept. 11. Can you tell me why the ambassador was in Benghazi yesterday? Was it to evaluate security at the consulate?

   OBAMA: Well keep in mind Chris Stevens is somebody that was one of the first Americans on the ground when we were in the process of saving Benghazi and providing the opportunity for Libyans to create their own democracy. So this is somebody who had been courageous, had been on the ground, had helped to advise me and Secretary Clinton when we were taking our actions against Muammar Qaddafi. And is somebody who is very familiar with the train. He was doing the work that he does as a diplomat helping to shape our policies in the region at a time when things are still fairly fragile. But I think it’s important to note that we have a Libyan government in place that is fully cooperative, that sees the United States as a friend that recognizes we played an important role in liberating Libya and providing the Libyan people an opportunity to forge their own destiny. And in fact we had Libyans who helped protect our diplomats when they were under attack. But this is a country that is still rebuilding in the aftermath of Qaddafi. They don’t necessarily always have the same capabilities that countries with more established governments might have in helping to provide protection to our folks. But beyond that, what I want to do is make sure that we know exactly what happened, how it happened, who perpetrated this action, then we’ll act accordingly."

These are two crucial answers in the big picture.  Right after getting out of the Rose Garden, where, according to the second debate and other accounts he definitively called the attack terrorism, Obama is asked point blank about not calling it terrorism. He blinks and does not push back.

Understand that this interview is just hours after he gets out of the Rose Garden.

How after this exchange and the CIA explanation of what was being put up the chain in the intel channels does the Ambassador to the United Nations go on the Sunday shows and say what she says about a spontaneous demonstration sparked by that anti-Islam video? And how does the president deliver a speech to the United Nations 13 days later where he references that anti-Islam video six times when referring to the attack in Benghazi?

There are many questions, and here are a few more.

Why did CBS release a clip that appeared to back up Obama's claim in the second debate on Oct. 19, a few days before the foreign policy debate, and not release the rest of that interview at the beginning? 

Why on the Sunday before the election, almost six weeks after the attack, at 6 p.m. does an obscure online timeline posted on CBS.com contain the additional "60 Minutes" interview material from Sept. 12? 

Why wasn't it news after the president said what he said in the second debate, knowing what they had in that "60 Minutes" tape -- why didn't they use it then? And why is it taking Fox News to spur other media organizations to take the Benghazi story seriously? 

Whatever your politics, there are a lot of loose ends here, a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of strange political maneuvers that don't add up.

That's what reporters should live for, but this time they're not.  We will. 

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/11/05/what-president-obama-really-said-60-minutes-interview-about-benghazi/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 05, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
Exclusive: Cable warning of Benghazi consulate vulnerability would have gone to White House, officials say

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Current and former intelligence officials tell Fox News that a classified State Department cable sent Aug. 16 -- and which said the Benghazi consulate could not defend against a "coordinated attack" -- would certainly have gone to the White House National Security Council staff. 

"The National Security Council sees everything," a former senior intelligence official told Fox News. "The staff are sitting on top of all the cable traffic which means the national security advisor (Tom Donilon) and deputy national security advisor (Denis McDonough) have some explaining to do. If Libya was of interest to this administration, the national security staff saw it."

Current and former intelligence officials said that North Africa -- specifically the growing lawlessness in eastern Libya, the sizable CIA presence and the estimated 20,000 loose weapons -- were of keen interest to the White House national security team and the intelligence community. There is growing evidence that the attack was designed to flush out any remaining western influence in eastern Libya, and specifically the growing CIA presence.

"To have not read it would be negligent," the former senior intelligence official said.

The classified cable marked "SECRET" and reviewed by Fox News summarized an emergency meeting in Benghazi less than a month before the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Other media outlets, including The Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, have since cited the classified cable in editorials questioning the administration's security lapses preceding the attack

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/05/cable-warning-benghazi-consulate-vulnerability-would-have-gone-to-white-house/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 05, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
Bam’s Benghazi lies
White House not telling the truth


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To get to the truth, connect the lies. Do what intel analysts and detectives do: Build a scenario from the facts and watch the lies blink red. And when anyone tells as many lies as this administration has told about its Benghazi debacle, you get a Christmas tree.

A three-act drama emerges from the facts that have leaked out. It starts ugly and turns hideous.

Act One: Our personnel in Libya worried for months about security, repeatedly petitioning the State Department for enhanced protection, especially for Benghazi. Requests denied.

Why? In Iraq, the State Department played tough guy, hiring mercenaries who gunned down innocent locals to “protect their packages” (our diplomats were the least diplomatic people we had in Baghdad). When Secretary Hillary Clinton took over, she moved, to her credit, to dump the psychos.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/bam_benghazi_lies_U8R3y5iHVbs3uurhjsiMjO


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 05, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
Lies on Al Qaeda Disqualfy Obama

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We’re here, the final hours of the 2012 Presidential campaign.  It’s D-Day, Judgment day and Super Bowl Sunday all rolled into one.  To me, this campaign season has seemed to be the longest I can remember.  Maybe my memory is fading, but I can’t remember a campaign as hard fought as this one.  Yes, the Bush, Gore election of 2000 was aggressively fought and the battle of the “hanging chads” seemed to go on forever, but somehow it worked itself out and our country righted itself in a couple of months.

I’m not so sure about this election.  The division between the parties cuts so deep and is so close to hitting a vital organ that I wonder if we will accept the result and come together as a country like we always have.  Usually both parties have differences, but they have always had a common ground.  No matter what your stand on social issues, the safety and security of the United States was highlighted on both sides.  It always seemed that no matter who took the reins, Democrat or Republican, their loyalty was to the country and its people.

Like I said, I’m not so sure about this election.  Yes, I am a conservative and align myself with the Republican Party even though there are some issues that I disagree with.  I see Romney as the obvious choice because he has the track record and fortitude to get this country out of the mess it is in.  We gave Obama a chance.  He had four years to at least make SOME sort of progress, but the numbers don’t lie, we are in worse shape than when he took office, and our foreign policy is in shambles.

My biggest concern however, is one that the media has all but blacked out and refused to even

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/morganbrittany/2012/11/05/lies_on_al_qaeda_disqualfy_obama


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 09, 2012, 04:19:15 PM
Obama administration officials to brief intelligence committees on Benghazi

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Senior intelligence, State Department and FBI officials can expect to be grilled next week as congressional hearings resume on the terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya that killed four Americans.

Lawmakers want answers to many outstanding questions surrounding the September 11 armed assault on the diplomatic facility and a CIA annex in Benghazi.

Specifically, they want to know who was responsible, whether it was planned, the intelligence reporting on the threat to Libya prior the attack, and whether security was adequate.

The Senate Intelligence Committee will conduct a closed-door hearing on November 15. Scheduled witnesses include Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, CIA Director David Petraeus, Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy, FBI Deputy Director Sean Joyce and National Counterterrorism Center Director Matt Olsen.

Clapper, Petraeus and Olsen will also testify behind closed doors to the House Intelligence Committee on the same day.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/08/obama-administration-officials-to-brief-intelligence-committees-on-benghazi/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 10, 2012, 05:44:24 PM
House asks Clinton to testify on Benghazi, but she declines due to scheduling conflict

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House investigators asked Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to testify next week about the September 11 terrorist attack in Benghazi, but she declined citing a scheduling conflict.

“[Clinton] was asked to appear at House Foreign Affairs next week, and we have written back to the Chairman to say that she’ll be on travel next week,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters yesterday. “She has a commitment with the Secretary of Defense to the AUSMIN Ministerial.” Per AFP, “AUSMIN is the highest level forum for Australia and US consultation on foreign policy, defense and strategic issues.” The United States is reportedly concerned about Australia’s plan to cut their defense spending.

bold type mine...........

http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-asked-clinton-to-testify-on-benghazi-but-she-declines-due-to-scheduling-conflict/article/2513151#.UJ7WxWdG1dg

What a hoot coming from the wife of the admin that sold national secrets.   


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 11, 2012, 12:55:16 PM
Pentagon releases response timeline for Benghazi attacks

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WASHINGTON — New Pentagon details show that the first U.S. military unit arrived in Libya more than 15 hours after the attack on the consulate in Benghazi was over, and four Americans, including the ambassador, were dead.

A Defense Department timeline obtained by The Associated Press underscores how far the military response lagged behind the Sept. 11 attack, due largely to the long distances the commando teams had to travel to get to Libya.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and his top military adviser were notified of the attack about 50 minutes after it began and were about to head into a previously scheduled meeting with President Barack Obama. The meeting quickly turned into a discussion of potential responses to the unfolding situation in Benghazi, where militants had surrounded the consulate and set it on fire. The first wave of the attack at the consulate lasted less than two hours.

http://www.clarionledger.com/viewart/20121110/NEWS03/121110014/Pentagon-releases-response-timeline-Benghazi-attacks-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 11, 2012, 01:30:25 PM
Probe into Benghazi Consulate attack back on front burner in Congress

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The terrorist attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Libya is back on the front burner in Congress now that President Obama has won reelection.

No fewer than four House and Senate panels plan to hold closed-door briefings with administration officials about the attack this week, while one committee is holding a public hearing. Members of both parties say they expect the Benghazi probe to last well into Obama's second term.

Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.), who has the inside track on the gavel of the House Foreign Affairs Committee in the next Congress, has promised his Republican colleagues he would conduct a vigorous investigation of Libya.

“If selected as chairman, I will work against the Administration's most harmful foreign policies, and exercise strong oversight over the State Department and other agencies. The Administration's behavior in the Benghazi incident still demands an accounting,” Royce said in a statement.

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), who's running for ranking member on the House Foreign Affairs committee, said Democrats have questions as well.

“If it's going to be a legitimate probe by Congress, then it's not something I would oppose. Because I really want to get to the bottom of it,” Engel told The Hill. “If it's only going to be a probe to be used for political purposes, then I would remind my Republican colleagues that the election's over. Barack Obama has been reelected to a second term. And we ought to start off his second term trying to come together rather than trying to play gotcha politics.”

The attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi less than two months before the election became a political issue as Republicans saw an opening to challenge Obama’s record on national security.

The administration’s shifting explanation of what happened that night — first it was a protest sparked by an anti-Islam video, then an organized terrorist attack — and revelations about security requests in Libya have raised questions that remain largely unanswered.

With the election now over, Engel said it's up to Republicans in Congress to set a new tone and work with Democrats, but partisan tensions remain.

Six Senate Republicans on Friday blasted Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta for what they called his failure to explain why U.S. armed forces didn't intervene on the night of the attack after they sent 13 letters raising their concerns.

“Today, we finally received from the Secretary of Defense the first response to our many letters,” Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) wrote in a statement. “Unfortunately, Secretary Panetta's letter only confirms what we already knew — that there were no forces at a sufficient alert posture in Europe, Africa or the Middle East to provide timely assistance to our fellow citizens in need in Libya. The letter fails to address the most important question — why not?”

White House spokesman Jay Carney suggested Friday more information would be forthcoming on the administration's response to the Libya assault.

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/267189-benghazi-back-on-front-burner


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on November 11, 2012, 03:04:38 PM
It will be good to finally get the truth . . . If that is what actually happens


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 12:54:09 PM
Why Did CIA Director Petraeus Suddenly Resign … And Why Was the U.S. Ambassador to Libya Murdered?

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The Deeper Questions Behind the Ambassador’s Murder … and the CIA Boss’ Sudden Resignation

While the GOP is attacking (and Dems defending) the Obama administration in connection with the murder of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, there is a deeper story.

Sure, it is stunning that the State Department never requested backup or that people such as Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer allege that President Obama personally watched in real time the attacks as they occurred via video feeds from drones flying over the Benghazi consulate.

But these claims only can be assessed – and the whole confusing mess only makes sense – if the deeper underlying story is first exposed.
Many Syrian Terrorists Come from Libya

The U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.

According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi:
WestPoint 1 LibyaAQvsAS Why Did CIA Director Petraeus Suddenly Resign ... And Why Was the U.S. Ambassador to Libya Murdered?
Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya.  Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.

(Incidentally, Gaddafi was on the verge of invading Benghazi in 2011, 4 years after the West Point report cited Benghazi as a hotbed of Al Qaeda terrorists. Gaddafi claimed – rightly it turns out – that Benghazi was an Al Qaeda stronghold and a main source of the Libyan rebellion.  But NATO planes stopped him, and protected Benghazi.)

CNN, the Telegraph,  the Washington Times, and many other mainstream sources confirm that Al Qaeda terrorists from Libya have since flooded into Syria to fight the Assad regime.

Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.  See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.
The Real Story At Benghazi

This brings us to the murder of ambassador Stevens and the sudden resignation of CIA boss David Petraeus.

The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission.

Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.

Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:

    There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

     

    In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

     

    In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

     

    Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

     

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    Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.

     

    The ship’s captain was ”a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.

     

    That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.

     

    Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

     

    Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”

     

    And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.

     

    Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”

    And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.

Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was  because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.
Why Did CIA Chief David Petraeus Suddenly Resign?

CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair.  This could be the real explanation, given that affairs of high-level intelligence chiefs could compromise national security.

But the timing of Petraeus’ resignation becomes more interesting once one learns that that he was scheduled to testify under oath next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate.

Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.
The Big Picture

Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.

For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-10/why-did-cia-director-petraeus-suddenly-resign-%E2%80%A6-and-why-was-us-ambassador-lib


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 12:55:26 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-liwxsBFq_t8/UIhe2BB69qI/AAAAAAAAElc/WWSQ5URIQ-Y/s1600/WestPoint_1_LibyaAQvsAS.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-10/why-did-cia-director-petraeus-suddenly-resign-%E2%80%A6-and-why-was-us-ambassador-lib


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 12:57:34 PM
I posted the majority of this article because it has already been pulled once.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 01:00:47 PM
Panetta: DOD moved quickly on Libya consulate attack



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Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says the U.S. military “did everything they were in position to do” about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya.

In a letter and timeline sent to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Panetta said the Sept. 11 attack on the consulate and nearby annex in Benghazi were over before U.S. forces could arrive.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83682.html#ixzz2C24yY9uQ

Ty Woods and the others disagree.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 01:12:45 PM
Petraeus Just Another Mystery Victim in the Benghazi Triangle

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Watch out! There is a cosmic force at work. One by one, people caught up in the Benghazi Triangle are disappearing.

First it was AFRICOM commander General Carter F. Ham who was given early retirement. Ham’s sphere of military authority extended to Benghazi.

Then Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette, who commanded the aircraft carrier attack task group in the Mediterranean near Benghazi, was recalled to Bremerton pending a Navy Inspector General investigation.   

And now another coincidental “resignation” in the chain of command working the Benghazi overwatch is either pointing to a cosmic force at work, or gasp! a cover up.

A cover-up in the Obama administration?

I know what you are thinking: No way; not the most transparent, patriotic administration ever.

It must be an act of the gods or perhaps the Mayan calendar.         

But really, the recent resignation of General Petraeus from the position of director of the C.I.A. has to be related to Benghazi. Either that or to the Bermuda Triangle.   

Because here is another remarkable coincidence: Neither the FBI, nor United States Marines are responsible for the security of consulates and embassies.

The C.I.A. is tasked with that job.

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2012/11/12/petraeus_just_another_mystery_victim_in_the_benghazi_triangle/page/full/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 01:53:47 PM
CONFIRMED: US Was Holding Prisoners at Benghazi Annex (Video)

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Jennifer Griffin at FOX News today confirmed that the US was holding prisoners at the Benghazi annex near the consulate compound. US agents handed three prisoners over to Libyan authorities on their way out of the city on September 12. The prisoners may have been held in the compound for several days.

Paula Broadwell leaked information on the US annex prisoners in a speech she gave at Denver University in October.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/fox-news-confirms-us-was-holding-prisoners-at-benghazi-annex-video/

Now remember the consulate attack was  BEFORE the annex attack.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
Why did Paula Broadwell think the CIA had taken prisoners in Benghazi?

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Paula Broadwell, the former military intelligence officer whose alleged affair with CIA Director David Petraeus culminated in the end of his career, had earlier made some startling, now-revealed claims about the agency’s role in the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi.

In an Oct. 26 speech at the University of Denver, she said that Libyan militants had attacked the post to retrieve some fellow fighters who’d been taken prisoner at the nearby CIA annex. She also seems to suggest that Petraeus himself knew about it, implying that he may have been her source. Here’s the relevant passage from the speech, transcribed in full here by Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounshell.

    Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.

    The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this — they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in, in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.

The CIA is flatly denying this. “CIA adamant that Broadwell claims about agency holding prisoners at Benghazi are not true,” The Post’s Greg Miller tweeted. Fox News cites a single anonymous source saying that the CIA annex had prisoners at the time, and “multiple intelligence sources” as saying that the annex had at different times held prisoners. So why did she say it? I can only imagine three possible explanations, all of which should be taken with many grains of salt:

1. Intelligence from faraway conflict areas can be hazy, and the story got honestly confused. Who knows how long or convoluted the chain of information was from Benghazi to Broadwell, whether or not it went through Petraeus, and it’s not hard to imagine a misstatement or mistake getting amplified.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/why-did-paula-broadwell-think-the-cia-had-taken-prisoners-in-benghazi/

secret CIA prison or holding center............naw not under Obie's regime.  ::)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 01:59:16 PM
Petraeus Mistress Suggests Benghazi Attack Was Aimed At Secret CIA Prison

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“Now, I don't know if a lot of you have heard this but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try get these prisoners back, so that’s still being vetted,” Broadwell said during the question-and-answer session of her presentation when an audience member asked her to comment on Libya.

Broadwell, who was speaking at her alma mater about her biography of Petraeus, confirmed the Fox News report (Broadwell said Jennifer Griffin's report had "insightful information") that came out on the day of her speech that said the Obama administration denied Americans on the ground in Libya the security and help they requested, telling NAVY Seals in Libya who wanted to help U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans who were eventually murdered to “stand down.”

“The facts that came out today is that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements,” Broadwell said. “They were requesting the – it's called the CINC’s (Commander-in-Chief’s) In Extremis Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex that were under attack. “

Broadwell said the “challenging thing” for Petraeus was, as Director of the CIA, he was “not allowed to communicate with the press.”

“So he's known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya, within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening,” Broadwell said.

The Obama administration tried to claim an anti-Muhammed video caused the terrorist attacks and has repeatedly punted on whether they they turned down additional security measures and reinforcements that were requested. Broadwell, though, said there was a system failure that led to four Americans being murdered in part because additional security forces were denied.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/11/Petraeus-Mistress-Terrorists-Attacked-U-S-Consulate-To-Take-Back-Militia-Members-Captured-By-CIA-Annex-Obama-Admin-Denied-Requests-For-Reinforcements?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"a couple of prisoners"


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 06:10:55 PM
CIA denies it detained militants in Benghazi

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The CIA is denying an assertion made by David Petraeus' biographer and girlfriend that the agency held militants in Libya before the Sept. 11 attack.

During a talk last month at the University of Denver, author Paula Broadwell said the CIA had detained people at a secret facility in Benghazi, and the attack on the U.S. Consulate there was an effort to free those prisoners.

President Barack Obama issued an executive order in January 2009 stripping the CIA of its authority to take prisoners.

The move means the CIA can no longer operate secret jails across the globe as it had done under the administration of President George W. Bush.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548494/cia-denies-it-detained-militants-in-benghazi/

let me just say this first.......BWAHAHA the CIA denying anything is just laughable itself  2nd there is a photo that is on flickr supposedly the right before the attack in Benghazi that shows a man with his hands cuffed behind his back. If I find it again I will post the photo for you to decide.









Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 12, 2012, 06:16:26 PM
GROUP GATHERS SIGNATURE for a “Petition Demanding Benghazi Massacre Special Prosecutor”

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Special Operations Speaks Sets Thursday Press Conference to Present Congress with Petition Demanding Benghazi Massacre Special Prosecutor

 

 

WHO:

 

Members of Congress:

The Honorable Louie Gohmert (R-TX 1)

Additional members are likely to attend. We will update as each member confirms.

 

Special Operations Speaks, PAC Leadership:

Brigadier General Joseph S. Stringham, US Army (Ret.)

Captain Larry Bailey, (SEAL), USN (Ret.)

Colonel Dick Brauer, USAF (Ret.)

 

WHAT: SOS leaders will present the congressmen with a petition containing the names of more than 100,000 Americans demanding a special prosecutor be appointed to fully investigate the events in Washington and abroad surrounding the murder of the US ambassador to Libya, the ambassador’s aide, and the two Navy Seals attempting to defend US property in Libya.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/12/petition-demanding-benghazi-massacre-special-prosecutor/

Not that we will ever get to the truth or have the  real perps in prison. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on November 12, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
Secret CIA prison?  Where are all the people that wet their dress about Abu graib?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 13, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
Secret CIA prison?  Where are all the people that wet their dress about Abu graib?
busy talking on their Obamaphones.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 13, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
Military Took 22 Hours To Get To Benghazi

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So, how long does it take to get military assets stationed mere hours away from a firefight to a firefight? Apparently, it takes some 22 hours. When former Navy SEALs called for backup at the consulate in Benghazi on September 11, American assets were stationed both in Libya and in Italy. The help never came; both Navy SEALs were killed after a seven-hour ordeal.

Fifteen hours after that, the military finally showed up. According to the Associated Press:

New Pentagon details show that the first U.S. military unit arrived in Libya more than 15 hours after the attack on the consulate in Benghazi was over, and four Americans, including the ambassador, were dead.

A Defense Department timeline obtained by The Associated Press underscores how far the military response lagged behind the Sept. 11 attack, due largely to the long distances the commando teams had to travel to get to Libya.

As the AP also reports:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/12/Military-took-22-hours-to-arrive-Benghazi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 13, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
Benghazi’s Smoking Gun? Only President Can Give ‘Cross-Border Authority’

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The Benghazi debacle boils down to a single key factor — the granting or withholding of “cross-border authority.” This opinion is informed by my experience as a Navy SEAL officer who took a NavSpecWar Detachment to Beirut.

Once the alarm is sent  – in this case, from the consulate in Benghazi — dozens of HQs are notified and are in the planning loop in real time, including AFRICOM and EURCOM, both located in Germany. Without waiting for specific orders from Washington, they begin planning and executing rescue operations, including moving personnel, ships, and aircraft forward toward the location of the crisis. However, there is one thing they can’t do without explicit orders from the president: cross an international border on a hostile mission.

That is the clear “red line” in this type of a crisis situation.

No administration wants to stumble into a war because a jet jockey in hot pursuit (or a mixed-up SEAL squad in a rubber boat) strays into hostile territory. Because of this, only the president can give the order for our military to cross a nation’s border without that nation’s permission. For the Osama bin Laden mission, President Obama granted CBA for our forces to enter Pakistani airspace.

On the other side of the CBA coin: in order to prevent a military rescue in Benghazi, all the POTUS has to do is not grant cross-border authority. If he does not, the entire rescue mission (already in progress) must stop in its tracks.

Ships can loiter on station, but airplanes fall out of the sky, so they must be redirected to an air base (Sigonella, in Sicily) to await the POTUS decision on granting CBA. If the decision to grant CBA never comes, the besieged diplomatic outpost in Benghazi can rely only on assets already “in country” in Libya — such as the Tripoli quick reaction force and the Predator drones. These assets can be put into action on the independent authority of the acting ambassador or CIA station chief in Tripoli. They are already “in country,” so CBA rules do not apply to them.

How might this process have played out in the White House?

If, at the 5:00 p.m. Oval Office meeting with Defense Secretary Panetta and Vice President Biden, President Obama said about Benghazi: “I think we should not go the military action route,” meaning that no CBA will be granted, then that is it. Case closed. Another possibility is that the president might have said: “We should do what we can to help them … but no military intervention from outside of Libya.” Those words then constitute “standing orders” all the way down the chain of command, via Panetta and General Dempsey to General Ham and the subordinate commanders who are already gearing up to rescue the besieged outpost.

When that meeting took place, it may have seemed as if the consulate attack was over, so President Obama might have thought the situation would stabilize on its own from that point forward. If he then goes upstairs to the family quarters, or otherwise makes himself “unavailable,” then his last standing orders will continue to stand until he changes them, even if he goes to sleep until the morning of September 12.

http://pjmedia.com/blog/benghazis-smoking-gun-only-president-can-give-%E2%80%98cross-border-authority%E2%80%99/?singlepage=true


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Post by: apples on November 13, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
Report: CIA's Benghazi Annex a Detention, Interrogation Site

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Unnamed sources tell Fox News that the CIA Annex in Benghazi held three Libyan militia members for days and that retrieving these detainees may have been a motive for the September 11th attack on the nearby US consulate.

The new reporting builds on details previously published by Fox's Jennifer Griffin and information apparently leaked by ex-intelligence officer Paula Broadwell last month. Speaking on Fox News Monday, Griffin indicated new sources suggest the CIA annex may have been a detention site for local militia forces and even for some prisoners from other parts of Africa.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/12/New-Report-CIA-s-Benghazi-Annex-Was-a-Detention-and-Interrogation-Site



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 13, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
Three key questions on the Benghazi scandal

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Washington is still reeling from the resignation of General David Petraeus as head of the CIA just days before he was supposed to testify on Capitol Hill about what the CIA knew about the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi on September 11, and when it knew it.

The many questions surrounding that scandal–including why the FBI was reading the CIA director’s emails and Petraeus’s mistress’s bizarre claims about a secret prison in the Benghazi CIA annex -- just add to the picture of an Obama administration out of control on national security—and the conclusion that someone knowingly put an American ambassador at risk to his life; left him there to die; and then lied about it afterwards.

As Congressional hearings on Benghazi start up again this week, three key issues demand answers.

First, why did the Obama administration ignore repeated pleas to strengthen security for our people in Libya, not only from State Department security chief Andrew Wood and the man on the ground in charge of security, Greg Nordstrom; but from Ambassador Christopher Stevens himself, who sent a memo on June 25 headlined “fragile security deteriorating, “ noting the rise of pro-Al Qaeda sentiment across Libya–and why it refuse Stevens additional security for his trip to Benghazi, knowing it might cost him his life? 

Second, when did the president and/or his national security staff b

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/13/three-key-questions-on-benghazi-scandal/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2C8nreBEh


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 14, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Obama: I Made Susan Rice Talk to the American People About Benghazi

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President Barack Obama revealed at his press conference this afternoon that he is responsible for sending U.N. ambassador Susan Rice to speak to the American people a few days after the September 11 Benghazi terror attack.

"As I said before, she made an appearance at the request of the White House in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her," Obama said at the press conference, defending the statements the ambassador to the U.N. made regarding the Benghazi attack.

Rice has been widely criticized for giving misleading statements about Benghazi. She maintained that the killing of four Americans stemmed for a spontaneous protest that got violent.

Later evidence, however, revealed that U.S. officials had real-time updates from Americans on the ground in Benghazi, and that terrorists were immediately suspected.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-i-made-susan-rice-talk-american-people-about-benghazi_663353.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 14, 2012, 04:38:33 PM
Graham to Obama: I hold you responsible for Benghazi

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The war of words over Benghazi escalated Wednesday when President Obama told his critics to "go after me" rather than Ambassador Susan Rice. Those critics then said they would do exactly that.

"Mr. President, don't think for one minute I don't hold you ultimately responsible for Benghazi. I think you failed as Commander in Chief before, during, and after the attack," said Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican.

The exchange came after Mr. Graham and Sen. John McCain said they would try to block Ms. Rice if Mr. Obama tapped her to become secretary of state. They said she hasn't done an exemplary job in her current post as ambassador to the U.N., and also said she has damaged her credibility because she inaccurately blamed the Sept. 11 terrorist attack in Benghazi on a mob protest.

Mr. Obama, in a press conference, angrily said his critics should instead go after him, and said Ms. Rice was only acting on behalf of the White House.

"She made an appearance at the request of the White House in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been

Read more: Graham to Obama: I hold you responsible for Benghazi - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/nov/14/graham-obama-i-hold-you-responsible/#ixzz2CEetSzco
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 15, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
McCain Wants Watergate-Style Panel to Probe Libya

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Sen. John McCain is calling for establishment of a Watergate-style congressional committee to investigate the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens, at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

The Arizona Republican tells "CBS This Morning" he believes the unanswered questions surrounding events at Benghazi on Sept. 11 require such a select committee.

McCain accused the Obama administration of making misleading statements. He also said U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice went on national television and said incorrectly that the violence was the result of a demonstration against an anti-Muslim movie made in the

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/McCain-Benghazi-Stevens-hearing/2012/11/14/id/464044#ixzz2CJapViFL

Why all the rage now McCain HMMMMMMMMMM?  Where was it before the election?   Don't get me wrong I am for this even though we know NOTHING will ever be close to the truth about Benghazi.  MSM won't ever let it happen nor will the left.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 15, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
Fatal Distraction: Focus On Benghazi, Not Broadwell

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Petraeus Scandal: Four Americans have been killed under still-unexplained circumstances, yet the obsession is with a general's mistress and not with the truth of why these men were left to die in Libya.

How ironic that the FBI agents who descended on the home of Paula Broadwell to gather information on the mistress of now-former CIA Director David Petraeus probably did a better job than the FBI agents who gave a cursory look at our burned-out consulate in Benghazi, leaving behind classified documents strewn on the floor and even our ambassador's diary to be picked up by CNN.

A press that ignored the administration's incompetence and swallowed its lies whole now salivates over every episode of what some have dubbed "The Real Housewives of West Point." Protect the president, but slime the military as a commune of lechers.

Senate Intelligence Committee head Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is insisting that her committee hear directly from Petraeus about his October trip to Libya to personally inquire about the Sept. 11 terror attack on the Benghazi consulate. The general reportedly will cooperate.

What did the nation's chief spy find out? What's in his report? Did it have anything to do with the curious timing of his "resignation," just after the election and just before he was to testify to Congress? Will it blow the administration's narrative out of the water?

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111412-633490-benghazi-not-broadwell-should-be-focus.htm#ixzz2CJjsyIXQ


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 15, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
'Real-time' video shows Benghazi drama, but questions remain

Legislators saw a "real-time film (showing) exactly what happened" on September 11 in Benghazi, starting before the attack began up "through the incident and the exodus," said Feinstein. A source familiar with the House committee hearing said the video included shots of Stevens being dragged out of the building. Sen. Dan Coats, an Indiana Republican, described the footage as "a combination of video from a surveillance camera and a drone."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/politics/benghazi-hearings/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

If I get the story correct...........this is 7 hours before Ty Woods was killed by mortar fire


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 16, 2012, 11:45:20 AM

Tunisian man imprisoned for role in US embassy attack dies after hunger strike


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TUNIS, Tunisia — The lawyer for a militant detained for attacking the U.S. embassy in Tunisia says his client has died from a heart attack after a two month hunger strike protesting his innocence.

Abdel-Basset Ben Mberek, the lawyer, said his client died Thursday after being transferred to a Tunis hospital when his condition declined.

Bachir al-Gholi, 23 and father of a six-month-old daughter, survived two heart attacks and succumbed to the third, his lawyer added.

Following region-wide anger over a U.S.-made film insulting the Prophet Muhammad, some 2,000 militants attacked the U.S. embassy in Tunis in September and looted a nearby school.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/tunisian-man-imprisoned-for-role-in-us-embassy-attack-dies-after-hunger-strike/2012/11/15/936e0b2e-2f7a-11e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 16, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
In Benghazi testimony, Petraeus says al Qaeda role known early

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(Reuters) - Former CIA Director David Petraeus told Congress on Friday that he and the spy agency had sought to make clear from the outset that September's deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, involved an al Qaeda affiliate, lawmakers said.

Petraeus told lawmakers "there were extremists in the group" that launched the attack on the diplomatic mission, describing them as affiliates of al Qaeda and other groups, said Representative C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House of Representatives intelligence committee.

"The fact is that he clarified it," Ruppersberger said.

Petraeus appeared behind closed doors before the House and Senate intelligence panels the week after quitting his CIA post because of an extramarital affair. He made no public remarks.

Another lawmaker, Republican Representative Peter King, said Petraeus' account in the closed-door session differed from the assessment the CIA chief gave to Congress two months ago, just days after the September 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/16/us-usa-benghazi-idUSBRE8AF03L20121116

Why didn't Obama try to help anyone in Benghazi September 11th, 2012?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
White House says did not heavily edit talking points on Benghazi

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(Reuters) - The White House did not heavily alter talking points about the attacks on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya, an official said on Saturday.

"If there were adjustments made to them within the intelligence community, that's common, and that's something they would have done themselves," Ben Rhodes, deputy national security adviser, told reporters. "The only edit ... made by the White House was the factual edit as to how to refer to the facility."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/17/us-usa-benghazi-whitehouse-idUSBRE8AG0D120121117?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2012, 02:48:32 PM
Hillary and Libya

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David Petraeus told Congress Friday in closed hearings that the CIA believed from the start that the September 11 attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi were by terrorists. That leaves one VIP who's still missing from Congressional scrutiny: Hillary Clinton.

GOP Congressman Peter King said Mr. Petraeus's testimony differed from what the former CIA director told Congress immediately after the attacks. Mr. King also said Mr. Petraeus said that the CIA's original talking points on the attacks were edited. The altered version became the basis for U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice's misleading and now infamous comments blaming the attacks on a YouTube video. Both that discrepancy and the issue of the altered talking points need further digging, especially if Ms. Rice is nominated to be the next Secretary of State.

But Mr. Petraeus wasn't responsible for lax consulate security or the U.S. policy that led to the Libya debacle. That's Mrs. Clinton's bailiwick. Last month in interviews from deepest Peru, the Secretary of State said "I take responsibility" for Benghazi.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324556304578117182552208160.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
Benghazigate: The Disaster That Should Have Sunk Obama — and Still Could

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President Barack Obama has survived Benghazigate — thus far. In the weeks and days leading up to the November 6 elections, President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and their advisors, no doubt, had containment of this Libyan fiasco foremost in their minds. Would toxic details of the deadly debacle leak out and spell doom for the struggling administration in the closing hours of the campaign?

A CBS News national telephone poll of likely voters conducted October 25-28 did not portend well for Team Obama. Locked in a dead heat with Mitt Romney, and with the economy in shambles and sliding toward a fiscal cliff, unemployment sky high, and a looming debt tsunami, the last thing the Obama White House could afford was a late-inning foreign policy disaster, especially when Obama propagandists were touting foreign policy and national security as their candidate’s great strength.

According to the CBS poll, only 38 percent of voters approved of President Obama’s handling of the September 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead: U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, his assistant Sean Smith, and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. Over half of all voters (51 percent) and 57 percent of Independents disapproved of his handling of Benghazi.

Even though the conventional wisdom held that pocketbook issues would determine the outcome of the race, Benghazi could have spelled the end for Obama. The numbers were looking very bad, and that was even with the overwhelmingly pro-Obama mainstream media bending over backward to cover for the White House and keep Libya off the media radar screens. As more and more troubling details about Benghazi began leaking out, the major corporate media smothered the facts and stuck to the White House talking points.

The full details about precisely what transpired at the American “consulate” in Benghazi on the night of September 11, 2012, still remain largely suppressed by the Obama administration and its accomplices in the major media. However, the damning evidence that has surfaced paints an ugly picture of a commander in chief who ignored months of repeated warnings about escalating violence and terrorist activity in Benghazi, ignored and/or denied requests for additional security, and after the attack on our “consulate” began, refused to send adequate backup and assistance to the American defenders who were vastly outnumbered and under fire.

Most of President Obama’s harshest Benghazi critics have focused on these twin security failures: failure to heed the prior warnings of those on the ground in Libya, and failure to aid our forces after they had come under attack. In addition, critics have

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/13670-benghazigate-the-disaster-that-should-have-sunk-obama-%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%80%9D-and-still-could


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
Benghazi Betrayal May be a Cover-Up of American Weapons in Hands of Terrorists

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The cover-up is extremely hypocritical coming from the Democrats. The left was outraged over President Reagan secretly providing U.S. arms to the Contras in Nicaragua. The Iran-Contra hearings resulted in Reagan dismissing Oliver North from his position at the National Security Council. In contrast, there has been no fall guy losing their job over Benghazigate, even though four Americans are dead. Instead, the opposite is occurring; guys like Petraeus are ousted in order to continue to protect the cover-up. The Obama administration will stop at nothing to protect those complicit in the cover-up. As a popular graphic now making the rounds on the Internet declares, “If Obama would have defended our Ambassador like he did Susan Rice, four Americans would still be alive.”

http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/17/benghazi_betrayal_may_be_a_coverup_of_american_weapons_in_hands_of_terrorists/page/full/

It wasn't difficult for this administration to give weapons for Fast n Furious to drug cartel member's.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2012, 05:28:37 PM


Father of Benghazi victim reacts to Congress hearings


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Thursday morning, U.S. Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Tequesta, watched some very different video.

It was a real-time feed of the attack from the consulate's closed-circuit TV system and from an unmanned aircraft flying overhead.

It was a revealing account of a tragic episode that figured in the U.S. presidential campaign and still haunts the Obama administration. And it confirmed Rooney's concerns, he said.

"Our ambassador is dead," he said. "Three other Americans are dead. We didn't protect them. We were grossly unprepared for any kind of infiltration of that consulate."

The video, Rooney said, shows "these guys literally walked into the compound — it's not like what you would think — people running around and guns blazing. There was gunfire at the beginning, but then they walked in and stole stuff.

"In one case a guy walked out with an Xbox. Another guy walked out with a suit. Then they left and set the building on fire. And that's how the ambassador died."

"It was infuriating to me," Rooney said. "The whole time there is a Libyan militia there, supposed to be protecting the compound. At least helping. But not what we are seeing on the video."

Stevens and Smith died at the consulate.

The video, said Rooney, does not show how they were killed.

But it does show how Smith "did everything he could to save the life of our ambassador and not leave his side."

http://www2.tbo.com/news/military-news/2012/nov/17/father-of-benghazi-victim-reacts-to-congress-heari-ar-567344/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 18, 2012, 12:11:08 PM
White House denies terror delete

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The White House yesterday denied it edited talking points about the terrorist attack that killed the American ambassador to Libya — contradicting remarks made a day earlier by disgraced ex-CIA chief David Petraeus.

“The only edit that was made by the White House and also by the State Department was to change the word ‘consulate’ to the word ‘diplomatic facility,’ since the facility in Benghazi was not formally a consulate,” Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters aboard Air Force One.

“Other than that, we were guided by the points that were provided by the intelligence community. So I can’t speak to any other edits that may have been made.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/white_house_denies_terror_delete_jkRAKvrDhUdpKpqBU3tMrM

Hey White House..............why didn't Obama send help to Benghazi that night?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 18, 2012, 04:16:42 PM
Libyans, diplomats: CIA's Benghazi annex a secret

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During an Oct. 26 question-and-answer session at the University of Denver, Paula Broadwell, who's been named as the woman whose affair with CIA Director David Petraeus led to his resignation Friday, told the audience that two Libyan militiamen were being held at the CIA annex and suggested that the attackers were targeting the annex, rather than the consulate.

"Now, I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted," she said.

But most here don't believe that. The guard, who stayed around the consulate for the duration of the assault, said he thought that the subsequent attack on the CIA compound happened because the attackers had followed the Americans who were fleeing the consulate to the CIA annex.

"They came to kill Americans," he said.

The assault at the consulate began somewhere between 9:25 and 9:40 p.m. The CIA annex came under fire twice in subsequent hours, according to a timeline released by the CIA. The first attack consisted of what the agency called "sporadic small arms fire and RPG rounds," a reference to rocket-propelled grenades. That assault lasted about 90 minutes, from 11:30 p.m. to 1 a.m.

The second, more serious attack took place at 5:15 the next morning, according to the CIA, when assailants lobbed mortar rounds into the compound for 11 minutes. It was during this assault that CIA contractors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs, were killed.

Since the attacks, events have unfolded very differently for the two compounds.

At the consulate, gawkers and looters still could enter the property, and no repairs had been made to the burned-out buildings. Two months after he died here of smoke inhalation, Ambassador Christopher Stevens' clothes still hung in the closet; his ties were strewn on the floor. In the building that served as an office and operations center, State Department stationery littered the floor and lettered Post-it notes left by the FBI on the day agents came here to investigate were stuck throughout the compound buildings.

But at the CIA safe house, American officials cleared their property within days of the attack. By Sept. 14, three new families had moved into the four houses that make up the compound, according to a gatekeeper at the door. Nearby residents said the landlord wanted Libyans living there as soon as possible, so his property wouldn't be destroyed by extremists angry that the CIA had been stationed there.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019670396_benghazi13.html


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Post by: apples on November 19, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
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In October Paula Broadwell told an audience that the CIA in Benghazi "had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner" at its secret annex.

The CIA flatly denied the claim, saying that the agency "has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the Agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless."

Marc Thiessen of the American Enterprise Institute points out that the denial is factually incorrect because while Obama ordered the closure of all CIA detention facilities (i.e. “Black Sites”), the order states that it "does not refer to facilities used only to hold people on a short-term, transitory basis."

Since “short-term, transitory basis” is left undefined, Thiessen concludes that "if CIA was holding detained militia fighters in the Benghazi annex on a short-term, transitory basis, it would not be in violation of Executive Order 1349."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-benghazi-2012-11#ixzz2ChmYDo9x


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Post by: apples on November 19, 2012, 04:14:34 PM
Paula Broadwell May Have Revealed Classified Information About The Benghazi Attack
article date nov 12, 2012

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Paula Broadwell, the biographer and mistress of now-former CIA Director David Petraeus, revealed sensitive if not classified information about the Sept. 11 attack on a U.S. mission in Benghazi during a talk on Oct. 26 in Denver, Blake Hounshell of Foreign Policy reports.

"Now I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex [to the consulate] had actually—had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back," Broadwell, a former military intelligence officer, said in response to a audience question about Benghazi.

The CIA adamantly denied the claims a couple of hours after Israeli news outlet Arutz Sheva first published a partial transcript of Broadwell’s speech.

But a source told Fox News today that "there were Libyan militiamen being held at the CIA annex in Benghazi and


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/paula-broadwell-benghazi-2012-11#ixzz2ChnYs4V9


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Post by: apples on November 20, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
Sources: DNI cut "al Qaeda" reference from Benghazi talking points, and CIA, FBI signed off

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(CBS News) WASHINGTON - CBS News has learned that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) cut specific references to "al Qaeda" and "terrorism" from the unclassified talking points given to Ambassador Susan Rice on the Benghazi consulate attack - with the agreement of the CIA and FBI. The White House or State Department did not make those changes.

There has been considerable discussion about who made the changes to the talking points that Rice stuck to in her television appearances on Sept. 16 (video), five days after the attack that killed American Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, and three other U.S. nationals.

Republicans have accused her of making misleading statements by referring to the assault as a "spontaneous" demonstration by extremists. Some have suggested she used the terminology she did for political reasons.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57552328/sources-dni-cut-al-qaeda-reference-from-benghazi-talking-points-cia-fbi-signed-off/


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Post by: apples on November 21, 2012, 06:01:39 PM
WH Won't Release Photos of Obama Team During Benghazi Attacks

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Today, the White House officially refused to release photos of US officials during the September 11 terrorist attacks on our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that ended with the deaths of four Americans. CBS News requested the photos on October 31; the White House has routinely released photos showing members of the Obama administration in their hero poses during national security crises. That happened most famously with pictures of the Obama administration key players clustered into the White House situation room during the raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan.

The White House told CBS to ask the White House Photo Office; that office then delayed for nearly three weeks. Finally, the Office said they wouldn’t release any photos without the permission of the White House Press Office, which has been utterly unresponsive to this point. CBS News has also not been told any details about the Obama administration’s actions during the Benghazi events.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/21/White-House-refuses-to-release-Benghazi-photos

1) they don't exist
2) they won't release them because it shows who was in the room


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 23, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
Sources: Intel Community Didn't Rule Out Terrorism in Rice Talking Points

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It now looks as though the White House's excuse for the pre-election Libya cover-up is itself a cover up. Last week we were told by the Administration (and the compliant media) that during her now-infamous round robin of five Sunday news shows, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice was only telling us what she was told by the intelligence community. We were also told that references to al-Qaeda were edited out of the talking points in order to avoid tipping off the attackers that we were on to them. According to a number of CBS News' sources, this simply isn't true.

As recently as yesterday, though, Rice doubled down on this defense:

"I relied soley and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. I made clear that the information was preliminary and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers."

At first glance, Rice's comments might not appear to move the ball, but they do tell us that the Administration has found its defense and intends to stick to it -- that defense being that Rice was only parroting the false information she was given. But now, thanks to some good reporting from CBS News, we know things weren't that simple.

Let's back up just a little bit…

Last week, former CIA Chief Davis Petraeus testified that within a day he knew the assault on our consulate in Benghazi was a premeditated terrorist attack committed by a Libyan militia with ties to al-Qaeda. As a result, Petraeus authorized the release of this information to the public in talking points to be given to the White House and to lawmakers. CBS News reports that references to al-Qaeda were  later removed by Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) -- an agency run by James Clapper, an Obama appointee. The FBI also made substantial edits.

But here's where the plot thickens.

DNI spokesman Shawn Turner told CBS News, "The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack." He added that this classified information was shared with the White House. CBS News then quite correctly concludes that as a member of Obama's cabinet, Susan Rice would would've known this. All cabinet members are given classified briefings.

The bottom line, then, is that during her Sunday show appearances, Rice knew the information she was spreading was false. 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/23/Benghazi-Gate-Now-Cover-Up-Of-Cover-Up?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 24, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
CBS: “Office of the DNI” cut al-Qaeda and terrorism references from Benghazi talking points

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Note that this report doesn’t pin the blame on Clapper himself.  It instead locates the change in Clapper’s “office,” allowing for a rather non-specific assignment that makes almost no sense at all.  Are we to believe that a Clapper aide overruled David Petraeus’ assessment of Benghazi?  If so, on what basis?

The report also states that the reason for the redaction was because the link to AQ was “too tenuous.”  However, the presence of mortars and RPGs, as well as coordinated fire and attack strategies in play, made it clear “almost immediately” to Petraeus and others in the CIA that this was much more than a spontaneous demonstration run amok.  That made the YouTube video explanation rather “tenuous” too, no?  And yet that stayed in the talking points while terrorism got excised.

This explanation seems even more tenuous than the previous stories coming from the White House.  If Petraeus knew “almost immediately” that this was an act of deliberate terrorism and included that in his talking points, then we need an explanation of who in the “office of the DNI” removed that explanation, and why — more than just the “too tenuous” excuse here that turned out to be totally wrong — and whether they got pressured to do so.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/20/cbs-office-of-the-dni-cut-al-qaeda-and-terrorism-references-from-benghazi-talking-points/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 24, 2012, 12:25:41 PM
Case Against 'Innocence of Muslims' Filmmaker Raises Eyebrows

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The answer to this question may be that the Obama Administration is less than fond of free speech that "slanders" Islam. In his now infamous Cairo speech in 2009 Obama told an Egyptian Muslim audience, including the Muslim Brotherhood, on foreign soil that he considers "it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." In the aftermath of the Muslim world's protests to the video, Obama told the UN General Assembly that "(t)he future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Nakoula was arrested the following day.

During the past year, of the 10,823 adults under supervision in the federal probation system, only 829 had their probation revoked for technical reasons. Usually the violations that attract the attention of the courts are those that involve violence, drugs, or other serious unwholesome behavior. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has been sentenced to a year in prison for probation violations that are none of these. His case stinks to high heaven, with its slow process, the prosecution's demand for serious prison time, the very public arrest, the decision by the U.S. Attorney's office to have a senior prosecutor handle the case, and the judge's decision to imprison immediately without any bail. Then, there is the statement by the Secretary of State, whose position, unless I am misremembering my American government classes, does not have jurisdiction over domestic criminal matters. And let's not forget that the government's very public identification and prosecution of Nakoula – done for his speech, and not for his probation violations – has actually endangered his life, and that of his family's, even forcing them to flee their own home.

I would love to believe that this case, and this criminal sentence, is totally focused on Mr. Nakoula's actual probation violations, and has nothing to do with the film he wrote about Muhammed. I would love to believe this, but the surrounding circumstances are just too suspicious.

http://www.meforum.org/3385/nakoula-basseley-case


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Post by: apples on November 27, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
Republican senators say Rice meeting just leaves more questions unanswered




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Three Republican senators who met Tuesday with U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice say they left the meeting with more unanswered questions about her comments after the deadly September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

“I am more disturbed now than before,” said South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham.

The Capitol Hill meeting lasted about 90 minutes and also was attended by acting CIA Director Michael Morell. 

Graham was joined by Sens. Kelly Ayotte, of New Hampshire, and John McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“I’m significantly troubled by the answers we got and didn’t get,” McCain said.

Rice continues to be discussed as one of the top candidates to replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when she steps down next year.

However, the senators said after the meeting they needed more information about the attacks and the aftermath before making a decision on how they might vote on a potential Rice nomination.

Clinton has said she will step down as soon as her replacement is ready. Rice and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., have been the top names discussed for the job.

McCain has demanded Rice be held accountable for her public explanation of events following the fatal Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi, Libya. He wouldn't say Monday whether she could allay his concerns.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/26/rice-to-meet-with-top-gop-senators-after-their-objections-to-her-replacing/#ixzz2DRmlNK00


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Post by: apples on November 27, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
Rice: We didn't intend to mislead on Benghazi

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Under fire from congressional critics, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice stressed in a Tuesday statement that she did not intend to mislead the public about the September 11th attacks on the Benghazi consulate.

"Neither I nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the American people at any stage in this process, and the administration updated Congress and the American people as our assessments evolved," Rice said.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/rice-we-didnt-intend-to-mislead-on-benghazi-150400.html

I am sure she said that without blinking a eye and a straight face, after all she is trying to get another job with the regime.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 28, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
WH: Obama 'Is Not Particularly Concerned' Whether Susan Rice Misled the American People

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"What the president is worried about, Major, is what happened and why in Benghazi. He is not particularly concerned about whether the ambassador or I went out and talked about the fact that we believed extremists might have been responsible. And whether we named them as al Qaeda or not does not--no, it certainly doesn't have any bearing on what happened and who was responsible as that investigation was continuing on Benghazi."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-obama-not-particularly-concerned-whether-susan-rice-misled-american-people_664134.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on November 28, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
It turns out that feeding ambassadors to terrorists is susan rice's hobby;  ignored pleas for additional security before embassies in Africa -which was her area of responsibility - were bombed during the Clinton administration


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 05, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Families want to know what happened in Benghazi

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The father of a former Navy SEAL killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, says he learned the details of his son’s bravery not from the Obama administration, but in an email from an American whose life was saved by his son.

Tyrone Woods, 41, was found “slumped over his machine gun, which was caked with blood,” Charles Woods, the former SEAL’s father, said during a telephone interview from his home in Hawaii.

“He had continued to fire until he had no blood left and was unable to fire anymore,” Mr. Woods said.

He did not identify the email’s sender but said he later spoke with the person who “told me how Ty died.”

Washington politics has largely shifted attention from what actually happened nearly three months ago in the Benghazi attack, in which U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, former SEAL Glen Doherty and State Department officer Sean Smith also were slain.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/4/families-want-to-know-what-happened-in-benghazi-ob/#ixzz2ECeB5Uek
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 06, 2012, 01:43:30 PM
BenghaziGate: Obama Admin Knew Libyan Terrorists Had US-Provided Weapons

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In a story that’s been largely buried by the media for years upon years – and was doubly buried in the aftermath of the Benghazi terrorist attack on September 11 resulting in the death of four Americans – the New York Times is now reporting that US-approved arms that were supposed to go to Libya rebels went to Islamist terrorists. Even more importantly, the Obama administration knew about it before, during, and after the Benghazi attacks. The Times reports:



No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.


But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government ….



The United States, which had only small numbers of C.I.A. officers on the ground in Libya during the tumult of the rebellion, provided little oversight of the arms shipments. Within weeks of endorsing Qatar’s plan to send weapons there in spring 2011, the White House began receiving reports that they were going to Islamic militant groups



This was clearly a risk in arming the rebels in the first place. As Breitbart News reported, Benghazi was controlled by terrorist group Ansar Al-Shariah. And terrorists like Sufyan Ben Qumu, who was originally rumored to be the planner of the Benghazi attack (sources later denied he was the planner), were armed and supplied by the United States in their war against Muammar Qadaffi.



If, in fact, US-funneled weapons were used in the Benghazi attack and the administratio

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/05/NYT-Benghazi-weapons-funneled


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 06, 2012, 02:31:25 PM
Rep. Rooney on video of Benghazi attack: ‘It was very difficult to watch’

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After a classified briefing on the attack on the Benghazi consulate, Rep. Tom Rooney, R-FL, said he “learned a lot” from National Intelligence Director James Clapper.

“I learned we do not have the adequate protection at our compound in Libya, in Benghazi, and if that’s the case in other dangerous areas of the world, then we have a lot of work to do at the State Department to make sure our people are safe,” said Rooney, a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

Rooney said they watched the attack unfold on a closed circuit-type television and saw people “walking through the front gate, not storming in, as some people have said.”

“There was basically no security,” Rooney said. “It was very difficult to watch.”

Rooney was obviously agitated by the way the administration has handled the situation and the dissemination of information about what transpired. See of Rooney’s impassioned remarks here:

video at link (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2012/12/05/rep-rooney-on-video-of-benghazi-attack-it-was-very-difficult-to-watch-10307)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 06, 2012, 04:20:27 PM
CIA moved swiftly to scrub, abandon Libya facility after attack, source says



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Within eight hours of the initial attack on the United States' diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, the CIA decided to scrub and abandon rather than protect its annex, a military intelligence source told Fox News.

“The defensive posture was no longer sustainable," the source told Fox News, revealing for the first time how quickly the CIA chose to secure classified material and close down the facility after it took indirect fire from two mortars at about 5:15 a.m. local time Sept. 12.

The adjoining U.S. consulate, by contrast, has never been secured, even three months after the attack.

The process to sanitize the CIA site began on Sept. 11 after the consulate was attacked around 9:35 p.m. local time. The initial stages of the agency’s proscribed evacuation plan kicked in as a precautionary step.

Given the CIA Annex was designated a high-threat posting by the agency and described to Fox News as having an “expeditionary” feel, there was not a lot of classified material to dispose of. Classified communications equipment was also near minimum.

Within two and a half hours of the decision by the CIA chief of base, the agency’s point person in Benghazi, the annex was cleared of all classified material and equipment. Both CIA Director David Petraeus and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who oversees the nation’s 16 intelligence agencies, were notified of the decision, which was made on the ground in Libya and not directed by Washington.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/05/cia-moved-swiftly-scrub-abandon-libya-facility-after-attack-source-says/#ixzz2EJDyF2gQ


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Post by: apples on December 08, 2012, 12:45:10 PM
Clinton to testify on Benghazi attack report: U.S. lawmaker

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(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will testify on a report expected to be released next week on the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, a top Republican lawmaker said on Friday.

"I have just received confirmation from Secretary Clinton's office that the secretary of state will appear before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs to discuss, in an open hearing, the findings and the recommendations in the report," Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen said in a statement.

Ros-Lehtinen is chair of the House of Representatives Foreign Relations Committee, which has already held several hearings and classified briefings on the attack.

The attack killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, and raised questions about the adequacy of security in far-flung posts.

Republicans have criticized the Obama administration for its flawed early public explanations of the attack, and then for shifting explanations of why talking points given to U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice were changed to delete a reference to al Qaeda.

Ros-Lehtinen said she expected an accountability review board conve

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/08/us-clinton-benghazi-idUSBRE8B703A20121208


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 08, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
A Major Benghazi Terror Bust

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The Egyptian government has nabbed a major terrorist tied to the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, according to the Wall Street Journal. And that terrorist has direct, longstanding ties to al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri.
Muhammad Jamal al Kashef
(http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/teaser-large/images/teasers/Muhammad_Jamal_al_Kashef-260x190.jpg)
Muhammad Jamal al Kashef

The captured terrorist is Muhammad Jamal al Kashef (a.k.a. Abu Ahmed), who served as a senior Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) terrorist in the 1990s and was imprisoned for years. The EIJ was headed by Ayman al Zawahiri, who merged the group with Osama bin Laden’s operation.

After his release from prison in 2011, Kashef established training camps in Egypt and Libya. Some of Kashef’s trainees took part in the Benghazi attack, according to multiple reports.

Kashef is the most senior terrorist detained in connection with the Benghazi attack to date. Importantly, the publicly-available details of his biography show that he has numerous al Qaeda connections.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Kashef “petitioned al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri to establish a new Qaeda affiliate he called al Qaeda in Egypt” and also received financing from al Qaeda in the

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/major-benghazi-terror-bust_665205.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 11, 2012, 04:21:18 PM
U.S. knew for years of Benghazi extremism

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Senior State Department, defense and intelligence officials were well aware that Benghazi and its surrounding area harbored al Qaeda-linked extremists long before the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in the eastern Libyan city.

Benghazi became famous last year as the birthplace of the revolution that swept Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi from power.

But in recent interviews with The Washington Times, several former high-level officials explained that eastern Libya was notorious in Washington’s counterterrorism community for more than a decade as a hub for jihadists leaving for or returning from insurgencies abroad.

The agencies’ long-standing knowledge about Islamic extremists in Benghazi raises questions about the level of security at the U.S. Consulate on Sept. 11, when heavily armed militants stormed the diplomatic mission and a CIA annex and killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, State Department officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

The officials pointed to the 2007 seizure by coalition forces in Iraq of a treasure trove of documents that highlighted the town of Darnah, just east of Benghazi, as one of the top destinations in the world from which foreign fighters were recruited to join al Qaeda’s insurgency against U.S

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/9/us-knew-for-years-of-benghazi-extremism/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS


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Post by: apples on December 12, 2012, 02:35:12 PM

Rep: 'Blissful silence' from Pentagon on questions over arms shipments from Libya to Syria




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Meanwhile, Fox News is learning more about the arms movement from sources on the ground in Benghazi. A shipper who has just returned from dropping a load of arms in Syria said that the U.S. knows shoulder-fired missiles are the most important weapons for anti-Assad forces and that he has even shipped some hand-launched drones which can be used for surveillance purposes as part of the arms movement.

Sources continue to say that the U.S. has been privy at the very least to this arms movement, with some insisting that the U.S. was doing more but has "found ways to parse words."

One concern shared not only by Poe but multiple sources on the ground in Benghazi is where the weapons are ending up. The shipper says that right now there are at least 18 different opposition groups in Syria fighting Assad, and at the same time fighting each other for control if Assad falls.

"The Islamists are getting stronger in Syria and nobody wants to help them. The Qataris and others want to help the opposition, but these countries are generous, they are not stupid -- they want to make sure the weapons get into the right hands," he said, adding: "The U.S. is allowing things to move, but not enough to make a difference. They are providing enough to do something, but not enough to make something happen."

There are also questions about the initial weapons movement operation, also reported by the New York Times, which tied Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to arms shipments into Libya during the civil war to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi. Sources in Benghazi say while more American companies have shown interest in returning to Benghazi and eastern Libya for oil operations, there are still concerns of where these weapons ended up and who ended up with them.

"There really is no way of knowing. It's the nature of all these support tasks, the end user is never quite known," one source said. He also said that while the initial attack on the U.S. Consulate on Sept. 11 was "obviously professional," it is entirely possible that the mob that showed up and ransacked the compound could have been at least partly armed with weapons the U.S. allowed to move into the country to support Qaddafi opposition.

The actual volume of weapons moving and their ultimate destination continues to be unclear. Sources say it is "loosely controlled" and no matter how hard the organizers try, there is no perfect "formal government auditing process."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/11/rep-blissful-silence-from-pentagon-on-questions-over-arms-shipments-from-libya/?test=latestnews#ixzz2Ersctwr7


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 13, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Chaffetz: State Dept Hiding Benghazi Survivors

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Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R- UT) told Breitbart News on Wednesday that he has been “thwarted” by the State Department from seeing any Americans who survived the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in  Benghazi. Many people forget that there were Americans who survived the Benghazi attack, some of whom were badly injured and are still recovering.

“My understanding is that we still have some people in the hospital. I’d like to visit with them and wish them nothing but the best but the State Department has seen it unfit for me to know who those people are—or even how many there are,” Rep. Chaffetz said. "I don’t know who they are. I don’t know where they live. I don’t know what state they’re from. I don’t even know how many there are. It doesn’t seem right to me."

“This is so patently different than any other experience I’ve had. Unfortunately, people have been killed and maimed and in harm’s way in Afghanistan and Iraq and in points beyond. It’s typically been the case that they would release those names but in this case,

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/12/Chaffetz-Benghazi-State-Dept


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 13, 2012, 02:41:45 PM
Rep. Frank Wolf: Tunisia Won't Let FBI Interview Benghazi Suspect

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(CNSNews.com) – As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton prepares to testify on Capitol Hill next week about last September’s attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, a Republican lawmaker is urging her to cut aid to Tunisia over its refusal to allow the FBI to talk to the only known detained suspect in the attack.

Speaking on the U.S. House floor Wednesday, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.) accused Tunisian authorities of hampering the FBI’s investigation into the attack in Libya’s second city, during which U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed.

Since being arrested in Turkey and handed over to Tunisia more than two months ago, Tunisian-born Ali Harzi has been in custody in his native country. Tunisian Interior Minister Ali Larayedh said in late October he was “strongly suspected” of involvement in the Benghazi attack.

According to Wolf, Tunisian officials have not allowed the FBI to question him for the past five weeks.

“These unnecessary and unfounded delays are inexcusable and demonstrate that Tunisia is no friend or ally of the United States,” Wolf wrote in a letter to Clinton earlier this week.

Benghazi

Part of an FBI poster seeking information from members of the public in Libya about the September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. (Image: FBI)

“Since January 2011, the U.S. has given more than 320 million taxpayer dollars to Tunisia,” he said in the House Wednesday. “Why are we giving any sort of aid to a country th

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-frank-wolf-tunisia-wont-let-fbi-interview-benghazi-suspect


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 13, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
Hillary Clinton to Testify on Benghazi Report

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will testify on Dec. 20 before the House of Representatives and Senate foreign affairs committees on a report on the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, the committees said on Wednesday.

The attack on Sept. 11 killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, and raised questions about the adequacy of security in far-flung posts.

Republicans have criticized Democratic President Barack Obama's administration for its flawed early public explanations of the attack.

They have also criticized shifting explanations of why talking points given to U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice were changed to delete a reference to al Qaeda. Some Republicans have used that criticism to question Rice's suitability as a candidate to replace Clinton, if Obama were to nominate her.

Clinton has said she planned to retire from her post at State after Obama's first term.

An accountability review board convened by the State Department is expected to release a report on the Benghazi attack before Clinton testifies.

The board, led by veteran diplomat Thomas Pickering, is expected to consider whether enough attention was given to potential threats and how Washington responded to security requests from U.S. diplomats in Libya.

Democratic Senator John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/clinton-testify-benghazi/2012/12/13/id/467577#ixzz2ExlDgqdx
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Yeah sure she will tell the truth and nothing but the truth. They have had enough time to figure a story to go with so I guess this will be the one we are supposed to believe? 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 15, 2012, 01:01:26 PM
State Department preparing for Libya bombshell?

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Susan Rice's abrupt withdrawal from consideration for secretary of state, coupled with suggestions from the State Department that Secretary Hillary Clinton may not testify as scheduled next week, has stirred speculation that something big is brewing in the Libya terror attack investigation.

"You're starting to see the State Department squirm a little bit," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said.

For the better part of the last three months, an independent board has been conducting a review for the State Department of the Sept. 11 terror attack in Benghazi. In anticipation of the report's conclusion, two congressional committees scheduled hearings for next week in which Clinton was set to testify.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, though, surprised lawmakers and reporters on Thursday when she indicated the report, and the secretary, might not be ready.

"The Hill has talked about a planning date on the calendar. That presumes that the (report) is finished," Nuland said. "I don't have any dates, any schedule of the secretary's to announce here."

Asked whether Clinton has committed to testify, Nuland said "it's dependent on the work being finished."

Further, Nuland rejected the notion that the final report on Libya needed to be shared with Congress at all. She stressed, instead, that the only thing the statute requires is for "the secretary's response" to the report's conclusion to be sent to Congress.

The comments were met with surprise on Capitol Hill. A spokesman for House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., who scheduled a hearing for Dec. 20, said this was the first they heard a scheduling issue.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., said it's still "the plan" for Clinton to testify on his committee next week.

But Fox News is told that Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/14/state-department-preparing-for-libya-bombshell/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2F92ZJkCd



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 15, 2012, 01:31:33 PM
CLINTON UNABLE TO TESTIFY IN FRONT OF CONGRESS ON BENGHAZI RAID DUE TO CONCUSSION

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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 16, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Report: Benghazi report due Monday

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The results of the independent review ordered by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of the attack in Benghazi will be presented to the State Department on Monday, CNN reports.

It will then be provided to members of Congress before a private briefing Wednesday and a public hearing Thursday, when Clinton deputies Bill Burns and Tom Nides are scheduled to testify, CNN reported, citing unnamed sources. They are substituting for Clinton, who is home recovering from a concussion she suffered after fainting from dehydration caused by a stomach virus, the State Department said.

The report is expected to provide answers to questions that have dogged the Obama administration for months about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Libya that left four Americans dead, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens. White House press secretary Jay Carney, citing the ongoing review, has declined to answer questions about security at the mission and other concerns about the United States' handling of the situation.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/12/report-benghazi-report-due-monday-152100.html

And we all know it will be nothing but  %1000 truthfull and and give us all the facts just like all the other truthfull things this admin gives the public when asked for it. do I really need the eye roll smiley here?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 17, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
Clinton tells lawmakers she is open to testifying on Benghazi in future

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote to the leaders of the House and Senate foreign affairs panels on Monday to tell them she may testify in future on the Benghazi attack, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

Clinton was expected to testify at a hearing this Thursday but will be sending her two deputies, William Burns and Thomas Nides, after contracting a stomach virus and suffering a concussion during a fall last weekend. Thursday's hearing will be preceded by a closed-door briefing of both committees on Wednesday.

 
 “It was her intention to be there. If she had not been ill, she would be there. And she's also committed, including in a letter today to the committee chairmen, that she looks forward to having an ongoing conversation with them herself,” Nuland said at her daily briefing Monday. “She has, including in a letter today to the two committees, made clear that

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/273255-clinton-tells-congress-she-may-yet-testify-on-benghazi

Sure Hil, in the future when unicorns fly.  Hey hil if you ain't tough enough to deal with a fall and a stomach virus you ain' t tough enough to be prez. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on December 17, 2012, 11:40:26 PM
This thing couldn't get any stranger. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 18, 2012, 01:51:54 PM
This thing couldn't get any stranger. 
I bet they do..... ;D


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Post by: apples on December 19, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
Report on Libya attack cites 'systemic failures' in security, confirms no protest



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A State Department-ordered investigation into September's attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, concluded that "systemic failures" left the facility inadequately protected, according to the independent review board's report, which confirmed that no protest preceded the deadly attack.

The report, posted Tuesday night on the State Department's website, also identified "leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus." It suggested 29 ways the department can improve its operations, but recommended no disciplinary action.

The Accountability Review Board's report comes after more than three months of intense debate in Washington over who was behind the attack, what motivated the attackers and why U.S. authorities weren't able to stop the violence, which took the lives of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Republicans have accused Obama administration officials of giving the American people a series of misleading explanations for the attack from


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/benghazi-report-cites-state-dept-for-security-failures-confirms-no-protest/#ixzz2FWOkL4rC


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Post by: apples on December 19, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
State Dept security chief resigns after Benghazi

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Three State Department officials resigned under pressure Wednesday, less than a day after a damning report blamed management failures for a lack of security at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, where militants killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Sept. 11.

An administration official said Eric Boswell, the assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary responsible for embassy security, and an unnamed official with the Bureau of Near East Affairs, had stepped down. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss personnel matters publicly.

The report said poor leadership in both bureaus left the post underprotected.

"Systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus" resulted in a security level that was "inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place," according to the report released late Tuesday by the independent Accountability Revie

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_ATTACKS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-18-21-20-30


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 19, 2012, 07:10:30 PM
Benghazi attack: Security was 'grossly inadequate'

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There were systemic failures at the state department, but no individual official ignored their duties, it adds.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has accepted all 29 recommendations contained in the report.

YET WHO GAVE THE 'STAND DOWN' ORDER?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 20, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
State Department official suggests Libya warnings went to the top

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Washington –  A top State Department official acknowledged Thursday that cables warning of serious security concerns at the U.S. compound in Benghazi went to department headquarters – and possibly to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s office – in the months leading up to the deadly Sept. 11 attack.

Deputy Secretary of State Williams Burns, testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the cables “would have been reviewed up through the assistant secretary level, and it may be that some of my colleagues on the seventh floor saw them as well.” The seventh floor refers to Clinton’s office.

Further, Burns confirmed “there were certainly memos” that came to Clinton’s office describing some of the dozens of security incidents in the region before the attack that claimed four American lives.

The confirmation Thursday comes after Fox News first reported in October on one cable addressed to Clinton’s office said the U.S. Mission in Benghazi convened an “emergency meeting” less than a month before the attack because Al Qaeda had training camps in Benghazi and the consulate could not defend against a “coordinated attack.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/20/sen-kerry-says-ack-funding-to-blame-for-benghazi-attacks/#ixzz2FcQ2YMwt


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 20, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Where’s Obama in the Benghazi Report?

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And so the reckoning begins. Only hours after a special task force concluded on Wednesday that “systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies” may have contributed to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, the State Department’s security chief resigned and three other officials were relieved of their duties.

What was lacking in the report, however, was any sense of who was responsible farther up the chain. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Accountability Review Board—chaired by retired Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering and vice chaired by another national-security heavyweight, former Joint Chiefs Chairman Michael Mullen—detailed a broad failure of U.S. intelligence officials and policymakers to fully understand the growing Islamist threat in Libya, but without naming the names of those who were responsible for that failure. As the report put it, using the passive tense, “There was little understanding of militias in Benghazi and the threat they posed to U.S. interests.”

Even more damning, in its absence, was the report’s failure to step back and question whether the Obama administration, at its highest levels (starting with the president), created the conditions for Benghazi by overstating the decimation of al-Qaida and playing down the significance of the extremist elements, possibly al-Qaida-linked, that have reemerged in the aftermath of the Arab Spring in Libya and elsewhere. Unless this reckoning is made, it is easy to imagine a similar disaster happening in post-Assad Syria, or elsewhere in the region. This has been a chief Republican talking point against Obama since the Benghazi attacks occurred on Sept. 11.   

A disturbing subtext of the report is the broader failure of the U.S. intelligence community to catch up ideologically with extremist threats, even as the CIA and FBI have burrowed deeply into Islamist networks at home and abroad. As demonstrated by the October arrest of a would-be terrorist plotting to blow up the New York Federal Reserve, the FBI is now deeply embedded in the domestic Muslim community, and the CIA has gotten fairly adept at penetrating jihadist networks abroad, especially online (a striking contrast to the U.S. law-enforcement community’s inability to root out the nation’s Adam Lanzas before they kill).

http://www.nationaljournal.com/where-s-obama-in-the-benghazi-report-20121219


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 20, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
White House hints that FOX News’ Benghazi reporting was ‘entirely false’

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White House Press Secretary Jay Carney appeared to suggest during a press briefing today, that FOX News reports on Benghazi were incorrect – based on the report released yesterday regarding the attacks.

Carney emphasized a part of the report that said that the response to the Benghazi attacks was timely and appropriate and that there was “no evidence” to show that there was a delay in the response from the White House.

FOX News reported after the attacks that according to their sources, “an urgent request from the CIA annex … was denied by the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard.”

FOX News White House correspondent Ed Henry asked Carney if the four State Department officials that resigned yesterday were “taking the fall” for President Obama and Hillary Clinton even though they

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2516535#.UNN0vyDcVYw


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: colehart on December 23, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
The general public will never get the truth on Benghazi or Fast and Furious because they have no one in Washington that wants it bad enough to risk their position or power.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 24, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
The general public will never get the truth on Benghazi or Fast and Furious because they have no one in Washington that wants it bad enough to risk their position or power.
you are correct!


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on December 24, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
The general public will never get the truth on Benghazi or Fast and Furious because they have no one in Washington that wants it bad enough to risk their position or power.

 . . . Nor anyone in the MSM that wants to expose their guy as either incompetent, or criminal, or both. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 26, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
State Department official who 'resigned' after Libya findings reportedly staying on payroll



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A State Department security chief who was said to have resigned last week after the release of a scathing report about security lapses at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in the run-up to the terror attack that killed four Americans reportedly is still on the department's payroll.

The New York Post reports that Eric Boswell, the assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, has not resigned from the department, though a State Department spokeswoman said Dec. 19 he was resigning his position. Boswell is instead just "switching desks," according to the report.

Three other State Department officials, including Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary responsible for embassy security, were placed on administrative leave after the release of the report. However, according to the Post they are expected to return.

Asked for comment, a State Department spokesman referred FoxNews.com to the statement originally put out on Dec. 19.

That statement said that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "has accepted Eric Boswell's decision to resign as Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security, effective immediately," and that the three others were "relieved of their current duties."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/26/state-department-official-who-resigned-after-libya-findings-reportedly-staying/#ixzz2GB5h3ewe


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 26, 2012, 12:33:54 PM
Benghazi penalties are bogus

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The four officials supposedly out of jobs because of their blunders in the run-up to the deadly Benghazi terror attack remain on the State Department payroll — and will all be back to work soon, The Post has learned.

The highest-ranking official caught up in the scandal, Assistant Secretary of State Eric Boswell, has not “resigned” from government service, as officials said last week. He is just switching desks. And the other three are simply on administrative leave and are expected back.

The four were made out to be sacrificial lambs in the wake of a scathing report issued last week that found that the US compound in Benghazi, Libya, was left vulnerable to attack because of “grossly inadequate” security.

State Department leaders “didn’t come clean about Benghazi and now they’re not coming clean about these staff changes,” a source close to the situation told The Post., adding, the “public would be outraged over this.”

US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Sept. 11 attack, originally blamed on a spontaneous demonstration against a US-made anti-Islam video that got out of hand.

That version was dismissed by an Accountability Review Board headed by retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering.

In response to questions from The Post, the State Department would only reissue the carefully crafted statement put out last week.

Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton “has accepted Eric Boswell’s decision to resign as assistant secretary for diplomatic security, effective immediately.” What Nuland omitted was that Boswell gave up only the presidential appointment as assistant secretary, not his other portfolios.

The other officials — Deputy Assistant Secretaries Charlene Lamb and Raymond Maxwell, and a third who has not been identified — were found to have shown “performance inadequacies” but not “willful misconduct,” Pickering said, so they would not face discipline.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/benghazi_penalties_are_bogus_ncP7RZx5uTIgDPbTp5WtoN


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 27, 2012, 02:24:48 PM
Report: GOP senators won’t confirm Kerry until Clinton testifies on Benghazi

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Republican senators will refuse to confirm Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as Secretary of State until the nation’s current top diplomat, Hillary Clinton, testifies about her handling of the Benghazi terrorist attack.

“The Senate is expected to take up Kerry’s nomination in early January, but multiple Republican senators have already said they won’t agree to a vote on Kerry’s nomination until Clinton testifies about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi,” The Cable’s Josh Rogin notes.

Clinton backed out of testifying at a congressional hearing last week after fainting and suffering a concussion. She was the first cabinet-level official to acknowledge that terrorists played a role in the assault on the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

“For some time, al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb and other groups have launched attacks and kidnappings from northern Mali into neighboring countries,” Clinton said during a United Nations meeting in

http://washingtonexaminer.com/report-gop-senators-wont-confirm-kerry-until-clinton-testifies-on-benghazi/article/2516877#.UNyfXkdT_Hk

Sure, yeah, right. WHERE WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA? WHO GAVE THE STAND DOWN ORDER. all we will get is ****crickets*****


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 29, 2012, 01:14:02 PM
Rubio Challenges Clinton To ‘Explain Why Her Department Failed’

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(CNSNews.com) – Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, to “explain why her department failed.”

In an editorial published on Wednesday, Rubio said the State Department Accountability Review Board (ARB) report released last week “concisely lays out much that we already knew” about the attack that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

“This was the premeditated work of terrorists, not a protest about a YouTube video that spun out of control,” Rubio said, adding that “the attackers employed military tactics and used rocket-propelled grenades and other heavy weapons; they also used simple weapons of opportunity, such as gasoline used to set the fire that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and Sean Smith.”

The Review Board laid the blame for inadequate security at the consulate in Benghazi on the State Department, leading to Rubio’s insistence that Clinton testify.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rubio-challenges-clinton-explain-why-her-department-failed

How would she know? She is always 3 sheets to the wind ::)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 08, 2013, 01:55:11 PM
Lawmaker warns 'window for justice' closing in Libya attack probe


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A decision by a Tunisian judge to conditionally release one of the very few people in custody in connection with the Libya terror attack has underscored concerns in Washington about the alleged lack of progress in the investigation nearly four months after the attack.

"The window for justice is quickly closing as far as I see," Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told FoxNews.com Tuesday.

While a Senate committee and State Department-sponsored panel have both issued reports in recent weeks about the Sept. 11 attack that killed four Americans, those reports said little about the criminal investigation itself. They examined the motivations and conditions that led to the attack, but not who was specifically behind it. Further, Capitol Hill lawmakers are still in a holding pattern as they wait to hear testimony from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is recovering from a blood clot and has pledged to testify.

The criminal investigation itself falls to the FBI, and the decision in Tunisia appeared to be a blow to the case.

A lawyer for Ali Harzi, a 26-year-old Tunisian, said the presiding judge had "conditionally freed" his client Monday night and he has to remain in the greater Tunis area in case the court needs him. The lawyer described the release as "correcting an irregular situation" because authorities never had any real evidence.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/08/lawmaker-warns-window-for-justice-closing-in-libya-attack-probe/#ixzz2HPakMo2N


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 08, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
Lawyer: Tunisian suspect in Libya attack freed

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TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) -- Tunisian authorities released one of the only men in custody for alleged links to September's attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi, the latest blow to an investigation that has limped along for months.

Armed groups assaulted the lightly guarded mission on Sept. 11 and killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, but despite U.S. promises there has been little news of progress so far in bringing the perpetrators to justice.

Ali Harzi, a 26-year-old Tunisian extradited from Turkey in October, was one of the only people actually detained over the attack, and at the time Tunisian authorities said they "strongly suspected" he was involved.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_TUNISIA_US_LIBYA_ATTACK?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=

You watch, the blind sheik will be released soon, if he hasn't been already.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 09, 2013, 01:58:55 PM
Clinton Publicly Linked Benghazi to Video Before Woods and Doherty Killed

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On Jan. 8, I contacted the State Department press office three times by telephone and once by email to ask when exactly on Sept. 11, 2012, the department released this statement by Clinton.

"I just want to know at what time on Sept. 11, 2012, this statement was released," I asked in an email that I sent at 2:20 p.m. Eastern time after my second phone inquiry.

I was later told that a group that answers questions on Benghazi for the State Department was working on an answer for me.

However, the Associated Press first published a story quoting Clinton's statement at 10:58 p.m. Eastern time on Sept. 11.

The AP released a story that night datelined Cairo, written by Maggie Michael and Sarah El Deeb, and carrying the headline, "American killed in Libya protest over film." The story noted that Clinton had confirmed that "one State Department officer had been killed in the protest at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi." It also quoted directly from Clinton's statement: "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet."

The Associated Press' Media Relations office confirmed to me that the AP first published its version of this story quoting Clinton's statement at 10:58 p.m. Eastern time on Sept. 11.

A CIA timeline of the Benghazi events provided by a senior U.S. intelligence official, the Senate Homeland Security Committee's report on Benghazi and the State Department's own Accountability Review Board Report all indicate that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed at the U.S. "Annex" in Benghazi sometime between about 5:14 a.m. and 5:26 a.m. Benghazi time on Sept. 12. That would be between 11:14 p.m. and 11:26 p.m. on Sept. 11 in Washington, D.C. -- or at least 16 minutes after the AP reported Clinton's statement.

The CIA timeline indicates that a security team sent to the rescue by the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli got to the Benghazi Annex about 5:15 a.m. Benghazi time. "They arrive with Libyan support at the Annex by 5:15 a.m., just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex," says this timeline. "The two security officers (Woods and Doherty) were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes then also dissipated."

The State Department ARB report provided additional details, but also set the time of the attack that killed Woods and Doherty at approximately 5:15 a.m. Benghazi time.

"The seven-person response team from Embassy Tripoli arrived in Benghazi to lend support," said the ARB report. "It arrived at the Annex about 0500 local. Less than 15 minutes later, the Annex came under mortar and RPG attack, with five mortar rounds impacting close together in under 90 seconds. Three rounds hit the roof of an Annex building, killing security officers Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty."

On Dec. 31, Senate Homeland Security Chairman Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., and Ranking Member Susan Collins, R-Maine, published their own report on Benghazi. This report confirmed both that Woods and Doherty were killed between 5:14 a.m. and 5:26 a.m. Benghazi time on Sept. 12 and that Benghazi was six hours ahead of Washington, D.C.

"American government officials outside of Benghazi learned of the attack shortly after it started at 3:40 p.m. EST (9:40 p.m. Benghazi time)," said the Lieberman-Collins report. "DS (diplomatic security) agents, in addition to notifying personnel at the Annex, immediately alerted officials at the U.S Embassy in Tripoli and the Department of State Headquarters in Washington, D.C."

http://townhall.com/columnists/terryjeffrey/2013/01/09/clinton-publicly-linked-benghazi-to-video-before-woods-and-doherty-killed-n1485167/page/full/

who gave the stand down order hmmmmmmm? 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 09, 2013, 02:11:04 PM
Benghazigate: The Cover-Up Continues

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From the start, almost everything that we were originally and "officially" told by the Obama Administration about the Benghazigate "event" was false (i.e., a lie) or misleading or inadequate. And now that the sole suspect held in the attack has been released, the cover-up is gaining momentum.

The report produced by State's Accountability Review Board (ARB) and released in an unclassified version Dec. 18 (pdf) did little to clear up what was misleading and inadequate in the "official" versions about the happenings during the "event."

The recently-released "Flashing Red: A Special Report On The Terrorist Attack At Benghazi" (pdf) by the Senate Committee On Homeland Security And Governmental Affairs is little better.

I write today to: 1) Describe the lies within the contexts of the reports; 2) Reveal the shortcomings of the reports; 3) Discuss the implausibility of the various details of encounters between the intruders, the occupants, and the rescuers; and 4) Examine the pre-"event" operations in Benghazi and the possible reasons the "event" occurred.

Abridged versions of the two reports showing points relevant to this post can be found here and here.

The reason that this serial perfidy should be exposed is that the lies -- along with the misleading and inadequate focus on the pre-"event "security situation in Benghazi, the Mohammed video, and the questions about the lack of support during the "event" -- all distract from the main issues:

(1) The pre-"event" purpose of the compound and its Annex (since these operations probably motivated the perpetrators of the "event"); and

(2) Team Obama's failed policies in North Africa, the Middle East, and Afghanistan.

That is, everything that we are "officially" being told is intended to or serves to provide a cover-up both of the gun-running operation that was run out of the compound and its associated Annex and of the fiascoes in Libya, Egypt, and Syria.

The reports reveal little new information, and that is disappointing but not surprising, for the administration has no intention of ever allowing the truth to be known by the public about the pre-"event" operations in Benghazi, the "event" itself, and the aftermath of the "event."  Michael Hirsh sums it best in his review of the ARB report: "A real reckoning of Benghazi will have to await further reports.

Neither report discusses pre-"event" operations in Benghazi, nor do the reports investigate possible motivations for the attack.  Instead, both reports dwell at length about the pre-"event' security situation in Benghazi and the absence of military responses during and after the "event."

The ARB report is 39 pages of mush -- some say cover-up -- interspersed with purported facts that pretty much follow the substance of earlier "official" descriptions of the "event."   It is ironically headed with the quote by Santayana about the past repeating itself, and that, alone, would be cringe-inducing were it not so risible -- since the authors of the report placed it there with apparent serious intent, and it was "included perhaps to add legitimacy and a veneer of integrity to an investigative report unworthy of such a definition, it is an insult to those aware of"  the actual circumstances prior to the "event."

The Senate report offers little new insight, but it does go into more detail on pre-"event" circumstances, the "event" itself, the "Mohammed film" lie, and a few other things -- worth the read only if you have nothing else to do!

Both reports dismiss the first lie -- that the intrusion resulted from spontaneous demonstrations in reaction to a "disgusting and reprehensible" video.  The ARB report simply states that "there was no protest prior to the attacks, which were unanticipated in their scale and intensity."

The Senate report goes into a little more insignificant detail in its dismissal of the lie by specifically covering the multiple statements by Mr. Carney, Secretary Clinton, Mr. Obama, and others -- most famously during the U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice's "full Ginsberg" on Sept. 16 --  wherein the administration held to that first lie.

The reports also refute the second lie: The one about the description of the compound, for neither the compound itself nor its main building ever should have been called a "consulate," since neither ever held that formal designation.  Furthermore, no "consular" functions were ever carried out in the building or at the compound nor did the American flag ever fly over it.

The ARB report refers to the compound (view overhead here) as  the "U.S. Special Mission compound (SMC)," but we do not know if it ever held that formal designation prior to the "event," because "a complete list of All U.S. embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions worldwide" can be found here, and there is nothing at that link that refers to anything in Benghazi.

The compound was:

    ... a gated-villa, leased by the US State Department from a local man named Mohammad al-Bishari. The villa in Benghazi was not a US Embassy, diplomatic mission or extension of the embassy. In fact, the nearest US Embassy is Tripoli.

And the ARB report confirmed:

    ...that the U.S. government mission in Benghazi was "never a consulate," contrary to the incessant claims made in the establishment press. "The unique circumstances surrounding the creation of the mission in Benghazi as a temporary mission outside the realm of permanent diplomatic posts resulted in significant disconnects and support gaps," the report explains, pointing out that the new Libyan regime was not even officially notified about the existence of the compound.

An interesting point is that the Senate report refers to the compound as "Temporary Mission Facility" or simply -- uncapitalized -- as "mission" or "facility."

A third lie unintentionally debunked by the reports was that it was an "attack."   

Even though each report uses the term "attack" many times, both make clear that the compound was not actually attacked.

What really happened was that a group of "dozens" of men entered the compound (in the words of the Senate's report -- "a large number of armed people flow[ed] unimpeded") through the front gate, and this entry was accompanied by gunfire and at least one explosion.

None of the compound's inhabitants were ever killed or wounded by the gunfire, and neither the gate nor the wall surrounding the compound nor any of the buildings in the compound were damaged by any of the explosions.

The group used fuel cans stored near a generator to torch a building near the compound's entrance that had been used to house guards and to torch several vehicles parked outside that building (almost all of the photographs and stock footage that are seen in the media are of that building and those vehicles.)

In fact, each and every "official" detail pertaining to the circumstances of the "event" at the compound defies logic -- from the intruders' entry into the compound to the rescuers' return to the Annex -- A series of circumstances that might well be called "The Immaculate Confrontation" since the intruders, the occupants, and the rescuers engaged in firefights for over an hour -- -and nobody got shot!

A long, illustrated discussion of the circumstances of the "event" can be found here, and a collection of images of the compound can be found here.

I have produced below an enhanced and annotated picture of the chart/map that was introduced by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb during her appearance before the House Oversight Committee Hearing on the "Security Failures in Benghazi" on Oct. 10, 2012, and I ask that readers keep it in mind as I proceed to discuss the "official" details of the "event":

 

I have made countless searches and read countless descriptions of the "event," and I have found that no one -- journalist, blogger, or writer -- has explored or questioned:

How the Blue Mountain guards outside the gate and the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs' Brigade militia members inside the gate escaped injury or capture as the firing and exploding began (AP reports that a guard beaten by the intruders has been interviewed, but no details of that interview have surfaced) -- and ARB report said they fled "to points south and east in the compound, towards the Villa B area" but thereafter is silent on all but one them;

How the entry gate escaped damage as the "dozens" of intruders came through it;

Why the intruders did not break into the main building until several minutes after they had entered the compound;

How four of the security agents inside the compound could have escaped injury or capture in several confrontations with a heavily-armed and firing crowd that overwhelmingly outnumbered them;

Why the intruders did not torch or destroy the SUV that was parked near the two secondary buildings during the intruders' assault of those buildings and entry into one of them (the report says the intruders were unable to use empty fuel containers to do this but does not question why no other vandalism was committed on the vehicles);

Why the intruders did not even begin to attempt to break into the main building's secure area;

How the security agents could have escaped injury or capture in several attempts to remove Sean Smith's body and search for Ambassador Stevens' body while confronting a heavily-armed and firing crowd that overwhelmingly outnumbered them:

Why the intruders suddenly withdrew from the compound less than an hour after entering it without, apparently, having achieved any possible objective; and

How CIA agent Tyrone Woods and the other members of his rescue party could have entered the compound through the gate via the single approach from the East (the above-linked AP story said that approach roads were blocked) without encountering and engaging confronting a heavily-armed and firing crowd that overwhelmingly outnumbered them -- a crowd that may or may not have exited through that gate immediately prior to the rescue party's arrival.

Note: The ARB report says the Annex team remained behind whilst the original 5 agents departed, and it describes another immaculate firefight with the returning intruders before the rescue team also leaves through the crowd.

It is extremely unlikely that these questions will ever be answered by anyone in the administration because each of the questions may pertain to the pre-"event" operations in Benghazi and the possible reasons that the "event" occurred.

I have dubbed the pre-"event" operations "Fast and Furious in the Maghreb" and described the operations here and here.  The operations were a major part of a gun-running operation (described here) conducted by Team Obama and its various Muslim allies that allowed for the clandestine arming of the rebels in Syria.  The reports do not address these operations at all.

The "event" itself was almost certainly directed at those operations in a fashion that will probably never be known, and that fact explains the shortcomings of the various descriptions of the details of the "event" itself.

Doug Hagmann has produced a number of pieces at CFP here, here, here, and here exploring the operations in Benghazi and on the probable identities and motives of the intruders (some of the conjecture by his contacts approach "black helicopter" territory, but it is well worth the time needed to read them all).

The reports confirm Senator Dianne Feinstein's press conference comments that the "dozens" of intruders came through an open gate, but neither addresses when the gatekeepers and near-by Libyan security personnel left their posts nor do they address if the gatekeepers and security personnel were connected to the intruders or if they joined the intruders or simply absconded.

The major unanswered question arising from the several "official" versions is the "why" question -- Why did the intruders intrude, i.e., what was their motive?  It could not just have been to set the "mission" on fire, but that seems to have been all that they did during the "event."

As noted above, the intruders did not initially make the 100-yard charge at Villa C, the compound's main building, where Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Management Officer (IMO) Sean Smith, and four Diplomatic Security (DS) agents were located.  Instead, some of the intruders gathered up containers holding fuel for generators and set fires, and others made a rather leisurely move towards and surround the various buildings within the compound.

Villas C and B were quite large -- perhaps as big as 10,000 sq. ft. and 5,000 sq. ft. respectively -- much larger than the buildings would need to be to house so few people.

And from one piece in another excellent series of articles, Clare Lopez suggested that they were large warehouse-type buildings that probably contained arms collected by the operation.  Adm. James A. Lyons writes about the "event" here, and he agrees with Ms. Lopez and thinks that the buildings were probably looted.

These conjectures are interesting, but there is no evidence that the intruders did any looting during the short period of time that they were in the compound.  However, they may have made the intrusion in order to search for the things that they thought were in the buildings.

WND's senior reporter and ABC radio host, Aaron Klein, discusses intrusion and motivations here:

    The difference between branding the Benghazi facility a "mission" or a "consulate" may be crucial in determining what was really going on in the building [.]...  [It] was routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad's regime in Syria.

Knowing that the "mission" was being used in "aiding the rebels fighting Assad's regime in Syria" gives rise to a very big unanswered question: Who was behind the operation at the "mission"?

It is highly unlikely that Team Obama wants that question asked, and the ongoing dribbling of information is convenient in preventing its being asked.

State, itself, probably was not running the operation -- just facilitating an operation run either by the CIA, itself, or by some other "agent or agency," possibly illegally absent a Presidential Finding authorizing it.

Think of it as a possible modern-day Iran-Contra affair run by a modern-day John Poindexter (John Batchelor has an interesting discussion here [starting at 19:00] of this possibility -- that there was no finding).

Amb. John Bolton writes about the operations at the compound and Team Obama's failed policies here:

    Libya was a centerpiece of supposed success in Obama's foreign policy, not some country of small significance and low threat levels. It is important to establish not only the actual paper trail in this case, but even more importantly why, on such a critical foreign-policy issue, it did not automatically come to Clinton's seventh-floor office.

    ...Obama will hold office for four more years, and Clinton apparently aspires to succeed him. Their worldview and its policy consequences must not be allowed to escape scrutiny as they did in the just-concluded presidential campaign. Most of the media have certainly shown little interest in exposing administration failures. Clinton's testimony may be the last chance to do so for a long time.

And we must not forget that Hillary promised Tyrone Woods' father that "they were going to 'arrest and prosecute the man that made" the Mohammed video, and Mark Bassely Youssef has been in jail since the 7th of November on a one-year sentence for "probation" violations.

Well, now that Hillary has recovered following her "Immaculate Concussion" and blood clot (the two seem to be medically unrelated) she will purportedly be appearing before Congress.

Let us hope that Sens. Feinstein and Chambliss and Congressmen Issa and Chaffetz ask for and receive answers to some of these and other questions.

Note, too, the opinions of key leader of the intruders who remains free today:

    As part of his response to a question about the attack on the US consulate, Boukhtala said, "Let's first ask about the reason for their presence in Benghazi in this suspicious and secret way. The other thing is: what is the nature of work they were doing in Benghazi? What was the role that the consulate was playing and who gave it permission to violate Libya's sovereignty and intervene in Libyan politics?"

Indeed!

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2013/01/benghazigate_the_cover-up_continues.html

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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 10, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
Libyan Gun Control Policies Left Guards Unarmed at U.S. Compound in Benghazi

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(CNSNews.com) - The gun control policies of the post-Gaddafi government in Libya delayed the arming of bodyguards for U.S. diplomats in that country and left the local guard force hired to watch over the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi unarmed, according to internal State Department memos and written testimony by the State Department officer who was in charge of the department’s security in Libya until six weeks before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks.

“Our long term security plan in Libya was to recruit and deploy an armed, locally hired Libyan bodyguard unit,” State Department Regional Security Officer Eric Nordstrom told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in written testimony.

“However, because of Libyan political sensitivities, armed private security companies were not allowed to operate in Libya,” Nordstrom said in his testimony submitted on Oct. 10. “Therefore, our existing, uniformed static local guard force, both in Tripoli and Benghazi were unarmed, similar to our

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/libyan-gun-control-policies-left-guards-unarmed-us-compound-benghazi


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 18, 2013, 01:18:04 PM
Holder Begs Court to Stop Document Release on Fast and Furious

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Attorney General Eric Holder and his Department of Justice have asked a federal court to indefinitely delay a lawsuit brought by watchdog group Judicial Watch. The lawsuit seeks the enforcement of open records requests relating to Operation Fast and Furious, as required by law.

Judicial Watch had filed, on June 22, 2012, a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking all documents relating to Operation Fast and Furious and “specifically [a]ll records subject to the claim of executive privilege invoked by President Barack Obama on or about June 20, 2012.”

The administration has refused to comply with Judicial Watch’s FOIA request, and in mid-September the group filed a lawsuit challenging Holder’s denial. That lawsuit remains ongoing but within the past week President Barack Obama’s administration filed what’s called a “motion to stay” the suit. Such a motion is something that if granted would delay the lawsuit indefinitely.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said that Holder’s and Obama’s desire to continually hide these Fast and Furious documents is “ironic” now that they’re so gung-ho on gun control. “It is beyond ironic that the Obama administration has initiated an anti-gun violence push as it seeking to keep secret key documents about its very own Fast and Furious gun walking scandal,” Fitton said in a statement. “Getting beyond the Obama administration’s smokescreen, this lawsuit is about a very simple principle: the public’s right to know the full truth about an egregious political scandal that led to the death of at least one American and countless others in Mexico. The American people are sick and tired of the Obama administration trying to rewrite FOIA law to protect this president and his appointees. Americans want answers about Fast and Furious killings and lies.”

The only justification Holder uses to ask the court to indefinitely delay Judicial Watch’s suit is that there’s another lawsuit ongoing for the same documents – one filed by the U.S. House of Representatives. Judicial Watch has filed a brief opposing the DOJ’s motion to stay.

As the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform was voting Holder into contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with congressional investigators by failing to turn over tens of thousands of pages of Fast and Furious documents, Obama asserted the executive privilege over them. The full House of Representatives soon after voted on a bipartisan basis to hold Holder in contempt.

There were two parts of the contempt resolution. Holder was, and still is, in both civil and criminal contempt of Congress. The criminal resolution was forwarded to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Ronald Machen–who works for Holder–for prosecution.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/17/Holder-begs-court-to-indefinitely-delay-group-s-lawsuit-fighting-for-release-of-Obama-s-executive-privilege-Fast-and-Furious-documents

Will not be a bit surprised if they get this.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 22, 2013, 05:44:22 PM
Former Special Forces Commander: Was U.S. Running Guns to Syrian Rebels Via Benghazi? CIA: No

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(CNSNews.com) - Retired Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin—who is the former commander of the U.S. Special Forces Command, the former deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence and who, in the 1990s, worked with the CIA—told CNSNews.com in a video interview last week that he believes it is a reasonable supposition that the U.S. was supporting or planning to support the Syrian rebels via Benghazi, Libya.

The CIA, however, says Boykin’s supposition is erroneous and that the U.S. was not conducting or planning covert action to support Syrian rebels through Benghazi.

“These assertions are both baseless and flat wrong,” a CIA spokesperson told CNSNews.com on Tuesday.

Boykin believes that such an action, or planned action, would help explain why Amb. Chris Stevens was in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, visiting that city for the first time since he had departed from it in November 2011 after having served there as a special envoy to the Libyan rebels who overthrew the Qaddafi regime.

“Then what was Stevens doing there on September 11 of 2012?” Boykin said in an interview with CNSNews.com. “More supposition was that he was now funneling guns to the rebel forces in Syria, using essentially the Turks to facilitate that.”

Before terrorists attacked the State Department’s Special Mission Compound in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, Amb. Stevens had met there with a Turkish diplomat.

About two hours after Amb. Stevens escorted the diplomat out of the main gate of the compound, dozens of terrorists swarmed through the same gate, beginning the series of attacks that would result in the deaths of Amb. Stevens, State Department Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who were working for the CIA.

According to the State Department Accountability Review Board report, a Greek cargo ship first delivered then-Special Envoy Chris Stevens to Benghazi on April 5, 2011. Benghazi was then the center of the Libyan rebellion, and Stevens was accompanied at that time by ten State Department Diplomatic Security agents.

Stevens stayed initially in Benghazi at the Tibesti Hotel. But because of security concerns, he moved into the CIA Annex in Benghazi on June 1, 2011.

“Benghazi, however, was still very much a conflict zone,” said the ARB report. “On June 1, 2011, a car bomb exploded outside the Tibesti Hotel, and shortly thereafter a credible threat against the Special Envoy mission prompted Stevens to move to the Annex.”

Three weeks after that, Stevens moved into the State Department’s own facility in Benghazi. “On June 21, 2011, he and his security contingent moved

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/former-special-forces-commander-was-us-running-guns-syrian-rebels-benghazi-cia-no


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on January 22, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
not like this administration has a reputation for gun running . . . Jus' sayin'


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Post by: apples on January 23, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Clinton Shouts: 'What Difference ... Does It Make?'

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was asked about ascertaining whether the Benghazi terror attack was the result of a protest by Senator Ron Johnson. "What difference, at this point, does it make?" Clinton shouted, seemingly losing her cool.



"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/clinton-shouts-what-difference-would-it-make_697536.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 23, 2013, 01:59:02 PM
Clinton lashes out at senator over Benghazi questioning


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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday lashed out over the claim that the administration misled Americans about the nature of the Libya terror attack by asserting that it was the result of a protest, raising her voice during a Senate hearing and asking: "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Clinton, in what may be her final set of testimony as secretary, pointedly challenged Republican Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson when he claimed the department could have "easily" determined what happened that night by interviewing staffers who were evacuated.

He was referring to the administration's initial claim that the attack sprung out of a protest. It was later determined there was no protest on the ground in Benghazi. Diplomatic security agents said as much to the FBI during interviews on Sept. 14, despite administration claims to the contrary two days later.

"That was a piece of information that could have been easily -- easily -- ascertained, within hours if not days," Johnson said.

"We were misled that there were supposedly protests and something sprang out of that. ... The American people could have known that (there was no protest) within days, and they didn't know that."

At that point, Clinton began to raise her voice.

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans," she said.

"I understand," Johnson said.

Clinton continued to speak, raising her voice and gesturing: "Was it because of a protest or is it because of guys out for a walk one night and they decide they go kill some Americans?

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Clinton, lowering her voice, then said it is the administration's job to "figure out what happened" and prevent it from happening again.

Later in the testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Clinton acknowledged the administration did not have a "clear picture" of what happened in the immediate aftermath. She said perhaps officials didn't do a good enough job explaining that they "didn't have a clear picture."

But Clinton still said the motivations of the attackers, to this day, is not clear. "Even today there are questions being raised," she said, referring to findings in the classified version of a recent report that she could not describe in detail.

The secretary continued to take heat from Republican senators as the hearing proceeded. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said that if he were president, "I would have relieved you from your post." He suggested


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/23/clinton-denies-delay-in-benghazi-response-despite-accounts/#ixzz2IpJbBYOT



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 24, 2013, 01:05:14 PM
Clinton Has Talked to Only 1 American Benghazi Survivor in 4 Months; Talked to None in Wake of Attack

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Because Clinton testified that she has only talked to one of the survivors, she could not possibly have even personally thanked--let alone heard the eyewitness accounts of--four of the five Diplomatic Security officers who put their lives on the line to protect Amb. Stevens and the U.S. facility in Benghazi.

She did not reach out to them in the hours or days after the attack to get their personal accounts of what had happened--information that clearly would have been valuable to her and her subordinates as they explained to the nation what actually happened that day.

As it was, rather than getting the eyewitness accounts of the State Department's own people there--accounts that would attest to the fact that the terrorist attack was a sudden assault on the State Department compound and was not in any way preceded by a protest--Clinton and her department for days put out the false story that the attack had arisen from a protest against an anti-Muslim video.

On Wednesday, Clinton told Sen. Johnson that there were approximately 25-30 survivors evacuated from Libya after the attack, but does not know precisely how many “because of our other friends”--a reference to the CIA.

Most of the U.S. personnel in Benghazi that day apparently worked for the CIA. Other than the five State Department Diplomatic Security agents who were at the State Department's Special Mission Compound at the time of the attack and survived, the only other State Department personnel in the city were Amb. Stevens and Information Management Officer Smith, who were both killed.

“Did you personally speak to those folks?” Sen. Johnson asked Clinton of the American survivors of the attack.

“I have spoken to one of them,” said Clinton, “but I waited until the ARB [Accountability Review Board] had done its investigation because I did not want there to be anybody raising an issue that I had spoken to anyone before the ARB had conducted its investigation.”

The ARB report was published more than a month ago on Dec. 18.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/clinton-has-talked-only-1-american-benghazi-survivor-4-months-talked-none-wake-attack



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 01, 2013, 01:17:12 PM
State Dept. Publicized Names, Photos of Stevens' Benghazi Security Detail Before 9/11/12; Suppressed Their Identities Afterward

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CNSNews.com) - The State Department took two dramatically different approaches to dealing with the identities of the Diplomatic Security (DS) agents it sent to Benghazi, Libya, to protect Amb. Chris Stevens and the small number of other temporary U.S. diplomatic personnel the department rotated through what its own review board would later admit was a "lawless town."

Before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, the department undertook a calculated effort to publicize the agents’ names and faces--presenting them in a State Department promotional magazine posted on the Internet. After the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks, the State Department has treated the names and faces of the DS agents who survived those attacks as if they were classified information.

This remarkable about-face raises two questions: Why can’t the American people know the names--and hear the stories--of the heroic DS agents who fought the terrorists who attacked our mission in Benghazi? Why can’t these courageous survivors deliver their eyewitnesses accounts directly to the U.S. Congress?





So far, the Obama administration has publicly released only the names of the Americans whom the terrorists killed in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. These were Amb. Chris Stevens and Information Management Officer Sean Smith, who worked for the State Department, and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.



The December 2011 issue of the State Department's State Magazine featured a cover story about then-Special Envoy Chris Stevens mission to Benghazi during the 2011 Libyan rebellion. The story, which began as the centerfold of the magazine, was written by DS Special Agent Mario Montoya, named the DS special agents protecting Stevens, and carried photographs of some of them.
All U.S. government personnel who were in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012 and survived remain unnamed.


The report that the State Department’s Accountability Review Board published on Dec. 19 refers to the five DS agents who survived only by acronyms: “RSO,” and “ARSO 1,” “ARSO 2,” “ARSO 3” and “ARSO 4.” RSO stands for regional security officer. ARSO stands for assistant regional security officer.

Last October, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee held a hearing on the Benghazi attack. The committee took testimony from Charlene Lamb, who ran the department’s suburban-Virginia-based Bureau of Diplomatic Security. It also took testimony from Eric Nordstrom, who was the RSO at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli until July 26, 2012--and was no longer in Libya at the time of the Benghazi terrorist attack. And it additionally took testimony from Amb. Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management.

But the committee did not talk to the State Department Bureau of Diplomatic Security regional security officer (RSO) and the assistant regional security officers (ARSOs) who actually witnessed and resisted the terrorist attack on the department's Benghazi compound. “State has not given Oversight access to the DS agents,” a committee spokesperson told CNSNews.com this week.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-dept-publicized-names-photos-stevens-benghazi-security-detail-91112-suppressed


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 04, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
Someone's Wrong: CIA and State Dept. Accounts of Benghazi Contradict Gen. Dempsey’s Explanation for Why DOD Sent No Help

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The firing on the Annex during this first phase of the battle ceased at about 1:00 a.m. Benghazi time--which was about three hours and twenty minutes after the attack started at about 9:40 pm Benghazi time, and about two and a half hours after Gen. Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta had been notified at 10:32 p.m Benghazi time that the attack was happening.

The second phase of the terrorist attack started at about 5:15 a.m. Benghazi time--or about four hours and fifteen minutes after the first phase ended. This second phase lasted about 11 minutes.

An accurate summation of the Sept. 11-12 event in Benghazi, based on the CIA and State Department accounts, is that it was a three hour and 20 minute series of attacks followed four hours and fifteen minutes later by an eleven minute attack. That is significantly different than Gen. Dempsey's claim--while trying to defend not sending any military assets to the rescue--that Benghazi was two 20 minute battles separated by six hours.

The Benghazi terrorists killed Amb. Chris Stevens and State Department Information Management Officer Sean Smith during the first phase of the attack by burning the building in which they were taking refuge. The terrorists killed former Navy SEALS Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who worked for the CIA, and severely wounded a State Department security officer, in the second phase of the attack when they fired mortars into the CIA Annex.

Dempsey made his claim that the Benghazi event was really two discrete 20-minute attacks six hours apart in responding to CNN’s Candy Crowley, who had asked him why a U.S. military force could not have gone to help out in Benghazi if the terror attack was a seven-hour battle.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/someones-wrong-cia-and-state-dept-accounts-benghazi-contradict-gen-dempsey-s


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Rand Paul Makes It Clear: ‘I Really Think’ The Admin May Have Had a ‘Gun-Running Operation’ in Libya

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A partial transcript of the senator’s Thursday appearance on Fox News featuring his key points on the issue is featured below [emphasis added]:

I really think part of the cause may have been there was a gun running operation going on in Benghazi, leaving Libya and going to Turkey and distributing arms to the rebels… They’ve interviewed the captain of the ship. A ship from Libya sailed for Turkey a week before the ambassador was killed. It was full of arms and they interviewed the captain and he actually specifically talks about the distribution of the arms to Syrian rebels… And I think the administration needs to answer, ‘are they running guns through Turkey to Syria?’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/rand-paul-makes-it-clear-i-really-think-the-admin-may-have-had-a-gun-running-operation-in-libya/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:38:27 PM
Panetta says he personally told Obama about Benghazi attack

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Apart from identifying and apprehending those who carried out the attack, the questions include:

• What happened to Stevens between being separated from his security detail during the attack and turning up dead several hours later at a Benghazi hospital?

• Who was watching the live-streaming feed of images from drones over the area of the attack that night?

• Which officials from the White House and the Pentagon were in the decision chain about how the U.S. military should respond?

• Was Mr. Obama involved in that decision chain in real time?


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/7/panetta-no-time-military-response-benghazi-attack/#ixzz2KFfc0xbR
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Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
Obama cites Benghazi phone call with national security team — but no meeting

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/17/obama-cites-benghazi-phone-call-with-national-security-team-but-no-meeting/#ixzz2KEmAsU23

Axelrod on Why Obama Campaigned Hours After Benghazi: ‘Everything Was Put in Motion That He Could Put in Motion’

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/axelrod-why-obama-campaigned-hours-after-benghazi-everything-was-put-motion-he-could


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
Panetta: Obama AWOL on Night of Benghazi Attack

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While giving Senate testimony regarding Benghazi on Feb. 7, Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta said Obama was not present nor did he communicate with the Sec. of Defense during the Benghazi attack.

Panetta was answering questions from Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) when he made it clear he had no communication with Obama outside the normal, "pre-scheduled" 5 p.m. meeting on September 11.

When asked if Obama at least called to check in as the attack unfolded Panetta said "No."

When asked if anyone from the White House called that night, Panetta said "No."

According to Panetta, the President trusted that the Sec. of Defense and Joint Chiefs of

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/07/Panetta-Obama-AWOL-On-Night-Of-Benghazi-Attack


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
Yes, There Was a Plan For Gunrunning to Syria

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Two weeks ago, Senator Rand Paul asked then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton if Benghazi served as a gateway for the United States to run weapons to Syrian rebels through Turkey. Today during testimony on Capitol Hill, outgoing CIA director Leon Panetta admitted there was a plan, supported by Clinton and former CIA Director David Petreaus, put in place to arm Syrian rebels but was stopped by President Obama.

  Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Mr. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were asked by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, if they had supported the recommendation that weapons be provided to the Syrian resistance.

 “We did,” Mr. Panetta said.

 “You did support that” Mr. McCain asked again.

 “We did,” General Dempsey added.

 The White House, however, was worried about the risks of getting more deeply involved in the crisis in Syria. And with President Obama in the midst of a re-election bid, the White House

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/02/07/yes-there-was-a-plan-for-gunrunning-to-syria-n1507590


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php?topic=14986.0


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 04:58:55 PM
Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi

http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php?topic=14986.0

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irrelevant, even if it's true.  the president is still culpable because he SHOULD have been involved.  an embassy was under attack.  what the hell was he doing INSTEAD?

BINGO!!!!! 5PM THAT NIGHT TO 8AM THE NEXT DAY.........WHERE WAS HE?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
No Word from Hillary During Benghazi Attack
Panetta, Dempsey did not speak to Clinton.


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Neither the secretary of defense nor the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff spoke to the secretary of state during the 8-hour attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. At a Thursday hearing in the Senate, Republican Ted Cruz asked both Leon Panetta and Martin Dempsey, "In between 9:42 p.m., Benghazi time, when the first attacks started, and 5:15 am, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what converations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?"

"We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton," Panetta responded.

"And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?" Cruz asked. Dempsey confirmed this. Watch the video below:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/no-word-hillary-during-benghazi-attack_700410.html

HillarywhatdifferencedoesitmakeClinton  how do those bus wheels feel?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
Panetta: Not enough time to respond to Benghazi attack

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(CNN) -- There was a fiery exchange between Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Republican Sen. John McCain on Thursday during Panetta's testimony about a deadly attack last September in Libya.

Panetta began his remarks to the Senate Armed Services Committee by saying there was not enough time to fly armed military assets to Benghazi to fend off attackers at the U.S. Consulate. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, were killed.

Panetta said the response to the attack was "timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

McCain, who has constantly lambasted the Obama administration's response to the attack, forcefully challenged Panetta's assertion that the Defense Department did everything it could.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/panetta-benghazi-hearing/index.html

TYRONE WOODS  WAS ON THE ROOF OF THE CONSULATE USING THE LASER POINTER TO SHOW WHERE THE BAD GUYS LOCATION AT LEAST 3 TIMES RIGHT? HOW LONG DID THAT GO ON PANETTA? WHY DID HE GIVE AWAY HIS LOCATION KNOWING HE COULD BE KILLED? WHY WASTE THE TIME IF HE HADN'T SPOKEN TO SOMEONE THINKING HE WAS GETTING HELP???????????



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
One more thing.....Obama is giving medals to some at the Sandy Hook school who died  that day....

WHY HASN'T HE GIVEN MEDALS TO ANY AT BENGHAZI?  It is on record they saved lives that night and died on a rooftop full of bullet wounds covered in blood.



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/sycamore/lenoObobo444copyjpg666-2-1-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/sycamore/BenghaziDied-1-1-1.jpg)

Who was watching the live feed that night? Didn't Obama call Netenyahu that night after the Panetta meeting?....photo is out with Biden and Obama in oval.



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
Panetta: Not enough time to respond to Benghazi attack

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/panetta-benghazi-hearing/index.html

TYRONE WOODS  WAS ON THE ROOF OF THE CONSULATE USING THE LASER POINTER TO SHOW WHERE THE BAD GUYS LOCATION AT LEAST 3 TIMES RIGHT? HOW LONG DID THAT GO ON PANETTA? WHY DID HE GIVE AWAY HIS LOCATION KNOWING HE COULD BE KILLED? WHY WASTE THE TIME IF HE HADN'T SPOKEN TO SOMEONE THINKING HE WAS GETTING HELP???????????


forgive me if I have the name wrong, I am still highly upset over this..


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 07, 2013, 05:59:23 PM
Former Special Forces Commander: DOD Could Have Flown Rescue Team From Tripoli to Benghazi; DOD: State Dept. Decided Whether and What to Fly

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According to a timeline released by the Office of Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the chartered private plane took off from Tripoli and headed to Benghazi with the rescue team about 2 hours and 48 minutes after the terrorist attack in Benghazi started at 9:42 p.m. Libya time.

According to the State Department Accountability Review Board (ARB) report, the department’s temporary duty regional security officer (TDY RSO) in charge of the security detail at the department’s Benghazi mission on Sept. 11, 2012 was monitoring a security camera and saw the terrorists swarm through the front gate of the compound at the start of the attack.

Using his cell phone, this security officer notified the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli within three minutes. He also notified the nearby Annex operated by the CIA. Within eight minutes of the start of the attack, Amb. Chris Stevens, who was in the Benghazi compound, used a cell phone given to him by a State Department Diplomatic Security agent to talk to his deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli and tell that deputy personally that the Benghazi compound was under attack.

“Upon notification of the attack from the TDY RSO around 2145 local, Embassy Tripoli set up a command center and notified Washington,” said the ARB report.

“About 2150 local, the DCM was able to reach Ambassador Stevens, who briefly reported that the SMC [Special Mission Compound] was under attack before the call cut off.”

After Amb. Stevens' incomplete we-are-under-attack phone call to his deputy in Tripoli, it took almost three hours for the U.S. government to get a solitary private charter plane on the way to Benghazi--and almost four hours to get that plane landed at the Benghazi airport.

“Within hours,” said the ARB report, “Embassy Tripoli chartered a private airplane and deployed a seven-person security team, which included two U.S. military personnel, to Benghazi.”

While not stating that this plane was a private charter, the DOD's timeline specifies that it took off from Tripoli at 12:30 a.m. Libya time—or 2 hours and 48 minutes after the attack started.

The DOD timeline and the State Department ARB report differ on the number of people included in the security team that traveled on this chartered plane. DOD’s timeline says it was six; State’s ARB report, as quoted above, says it was seven. “12:30 am A six man security team from U.S. Embassy Tripoli, including two DoD personnel, departs for Benghazi,” says the DOD timeline.

Neither the DOD timeline nor the ARB report described any of the members of the security team that took that private chartered flight from Tripoli to Benghazi as State Department personnel.

In a Nov. 2 piece in the Washington Post, David Ignatius reported--in a timeline described to him by a “senior intelligence official”--that the security team that flew to Benghazi on that chartered plane was in fact comprised of CIA people and military personnel working with the CIA.

In fact, the timeline Ignatius published in the Post seems to indicate the CIA chartered the plane.

“1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they've hastily chartered,” reported Ignatius. “The Tripoli team includes four GRS [CIA Global Response Staff] security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel on loan to the agency. They don't leave the Benghazi airport until 4:30 a.m. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport; obtaining vehicles; and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. (Also killed was a State Department communication specialist.) But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/former-special-forces-commander-dod-could-have-flown-rescue-team-tripoli-benghazi-dod


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 08, 2013, 01:31:29 PM
Dereliction of Duty: Obama Did Nothing to Save American Lives in Benghazi--and Lied About It

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Nothing. That is what President Barack Obama did on the night of September 11, 2012, as terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and killed four Americans, among them Ambassador Christopher Stevens. President Obama’s inaction was revealed in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday by outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey.

Under direct questioning by Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), Panetta admitted that he had no communication with President Obama after their “pre-scheduled” meeting at 5:00 p.m. EDT. The attack on the consulate had already been under way for 90 minutes at that time. Neither the president nor anyone else from the White House called afterwards to check what was happening; the Commander-in-Chief had left it “up to us,” said Panetta.

Panetta’s testimony directly contradicts President Obama’s own claim to have issued “three direectives” as soon as he learned “what was going on” in Benghazi. As he told a Denver reporter in October:

I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/07/Dereliction-of-Duty-Obama-Did-Nothing-to-Save-American-Lives-in-Benghazi--and-Lied-About-It


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 08, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
Where Was Obama on Night of Benghazi Attacks?

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So Ted Cruz, "Between 9:42 p.m. Benghazi time when the first attack started and 5:15 a.m., that's eight hours, essentially, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what conversations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?"  That's the secretary of state who runs consulates, who runs embassies.  "Uh, we didn't have any conversations with secretary, uh, Clinton."  "And General Dempsey, is the same true for you?" Cruz asked, and Dempsey confirmed that it was.  So what was Hillary doing to save lives?

Now, the Democrats did their best to change this hearing on Benghazi into a hearing about the impact of the sequester on the Pentagon.  They did.  They tried to shift the focus to the sequester, 'cause this did not go well.  It could have been a lot worse for the regime, but it still didn't go well.  Obama said (paraphrasing), "Well, do what you gotta do," and left.  And not a word spoken for eight hours during all of this with Obama, and they never talked to Hillary at all during this thing.  And General Dempsey, "I never got an order to send troops."  You know, which raises a question.  One of the SEALs, I forget which one, forgive me for that, by the way, went over there. They had violated orders. They were told to stand down.  That's another thing about this, that consulate personnel were told to stand down.

Not only was there no military, they went anyway to try to save lives.  And one of the SEALs, remember, lit up one of the terrorists with his laser as though he was expecting a laser guided bomb to follow.  And all he did was expose his position when he did this, and they were able to kill him as a result of that.  Now, this guy would not have lit up the terrorists, and he wouldn't have exposed himself if he hadn't thought there was something up there that was gonna fire a bomb targeted by his laser.  I've always been curious about that.  At some point the question needs to be asked, "Did they think that there were reinforcements in the air?  Did they think they had air support at that point?"

They went over to the consulate, these guys, and they lit up the target, and in so doing, exposed themselves, by the way, to the terrorists.  But they lit up the target, and that enables an American aircraft with laser guided bombs above to fire the bombs guided to the target by virtue of the laser being focused on it by the Navy SEAL.  There's no reason to laser the terrorist target if you're not gonna launch a laser-guided missile, bomb, whatever weapon.  Why did they think they had air support?  I would love to have the answer to that question.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  I remember in the early days of the aftermath of the Benghazi attack, I remember one of the focal points, one of the questions was, why all this effort to blame the video? Why all this effort to blame forces outside of Washington, to blame protests from a video?  And somebody said to me, "Rush, when it gets down to brass tacks what's gonna be revealed is, where was Obama?"  That's what they're trying to massage here.  And the way it was explained to me was, the question, was Obama disengaged, meaning could he be found?  We just heard Panetta say that after five o'clock, that was it, there were no more conversations with Obama.  After five that was it, Obama said (paraphrasing), "Look, do what you have to do."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/07/where_was_obama_on_night_of_benghazi_attacks


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 08, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
The Twisted Truth on Obama's Benghazi Response

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Through it all, Obama's White House simply did not respond or engage.  Given the auspiciousness of the date and the seriousness of the attack, we must now ask, with the utmost gravity, "Why not?"


Remember that we are not talking about the president's weak response after the fact; the issue is what he was (or was not) doing in real time, as the event unfolded.  An attack was ongoing.  Distress calls were coming in.  At that point, presumably, neither Obama nor anyone else in the U.S. government could have known for certain that this attack was an isolated case.  It might, after all, have been one stage in a possible series of attacks.  And while it was ongoing, there was, presumably, no way of knowing how the situation would develop, how large the attack force was, whether the Libyan government was complicit in the assault, or how many Americans might be in jeopardy.


And yet in spite of all this uncertainty, mayhem, and danger, Obama remained disengaged, neither responding to nor initiating any communication with his national security apparatus.


If Panetta is to be believed -- and we can only assume that if he is lying, he is doing so to protect his boss from even worse revelations -- then Obama was either completely unavailable that night (September 11!) or completely unwilling to take steps to help Americans who he knew were in the process of being killed in Benghazi.


In a semi-rational world, no government could withstand the exposure of such inhumanity, not to mention such a total failure to carry out its primary duty -- namely, to protect its citizens against foreign aggression.  In our current, thoroughly irrational world, there remains little doubt that Obama will emerge unscathed from Panetta's testimony, just as Hillary Clinton will remain untarnished after openly declaring, during her own belated testimony, that the clock has run out on any attempt to unravel the administration's web of lies about Benghazi, since "What difference -- at this point -- does it make?"  (I explained this here.)


Heavily armed terrorists carried out a planned attack on a U.S. ambassador.  Four Americans, including the ambassador, were killed.  The attack lasted for more than seven hours.  The U.S. government was aware of the attack from a very early stage and was monitoring events with surveillance technology.


The secretary of defense and his military commanders did nothing.  The secretary of state did nothing.  The president never called to ask, "How are things going?"  His previous evasions of questions about his orders and actions at the time revealed that he took no direct action in response to the attacks.  We now learn that he was not even in the communication loop that night.


Thanks to Panetta's testimony, we have once again been forced to drop the veil of humanity we sometimes hold up before this administration in order to keep our sanity.  ("Surely he was aware, surely he didn't simply let people die without a thought.")  At last, sadly, we have been reduced by Panetta to having to wonder where Obama was that night, what he was doing, and why he was apparently unavailable to involve himself in the biggest national security emergency of his presidency.


Finally, Hillary Clinton's grotesque plea seems appropriate: "What difference -- at this point -- does it make?"  Do you really want to know?  Or isn't this all just too twisted to contemplate?

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/the_twisted_truth_on_obamas_benghazi_response.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 10, 2013, 06:31:41 PM
The secret war behind Benghazi


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As Woods was thanking Doherty, though, the attackers were adjusting their mortar fire, and getting closer with each volley. A French 81 mm round ended Woods’ life, though as he fell, his body shielded another security agent, saving his life.

Doherty was killed instantly by a direct hit on his position from another mortar round.

From below, several other agents rushed up to the roof and put themselves in the line of fire while they saved the other two men’s lives. They lowered the bodies down with rope they had cut down from their gym. One JSOC agent strapped a wounded DSS man to his back, then climbed down a ladder under fire.


Everyone at the CIA compound might well have been killed if they had remained, but an unmanned intelligence drone overhead signalled, by tracing heat signatures, that a much larger hostile force was gathering.

Some 30 Americans loaded into vehicles and evacuated the area. They were fired on again during the drive to the airport, but made it and escaped to Tripoli on two flights, at 7:30 and 8:30 a.m. Sept. 12. Stevens’ body was finally recovered when a local was sent to the Benghazi morgue and “there was likely a money exchange,” the authors say, to release the remains, which were on the 8:30 plane.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_secret_war_behind_benghazi_mKbP26KAwILn2KKMs8NIWM/3


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 10, 2013, 07:32:08 PM
The president is lying about Benghazi

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Did the President not care about their safety specifically or did he not expect things to escalate further. No one knows.   

The President stated in a press conference on November 14, 2012 as reported in the Canada Free Press:

"If people don't think that we did everything we can to make sure that we saved the lives of folks who I sent there, and who were carrying out missions on behalf of the United States, then you don't know how our Defense Department thinks or our State Department thinks or our CIA thinks," Obama said. "Their number one priority is obviously to protect American lives."

"As Henry raised his hand to follow up, Obama interrupted him and continued with his answer.

"I can can tell you that immediately upon finding out that our folks were in danger, that my orders to my national security team were do whatever we need to do to make sure they're safe. And that's the same order I would give any time that I see Americans are in danger -- whether they're civilian or military -- because that's our number one priority."

This President was negligent is many ways by failing to engage directly in these events.  We all hope that if this were us or one of our family members we could count on the support of our President.   Maybe he was not interested and just didn't have time for that "3:00 AM phone call."  He was in the middle of a difficult re-election campaign. 

With something that ended so badly the President was going to need a statement that would insulate him from liability.  His minions would accept it, his detractors would not and the compliant media would protect him. 

When the President said "immediately" that must have meant when I woke up the next morning.  Here we go again.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/the_president_is_lying_about_benghazi.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 14, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
Sen. Burr: CIA Has ‘Flatly Refused’ to Give Intel Committee Some Benghazi-Related Documents

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“And so it would be my objective to see if we could meet those interests,” Brennan continued. “At the same time, our Founding Fathers did sort of separate the branches of government; judicial, legislative, and executive. And so I want to be mindful of that separation, but at the same time, meet your legitimate interests.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sen-burr-cia-has-flatly-refused-give-intel-committee-some-benghazi-related-documents



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 14, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
BREAKING: Obama made no phone calls on night of Benghazi attack, White House says


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President Obama didn’t make any phone calls the night of the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the White House said in a letter to Congress released Thursday.

“During the entire attack, the president of the United States never picked up the phone to put the weight of his office in the mix,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, who had held up Mr. Obama’s defense secretary nominee to force the information to be released.

Mr. Graham said that if Mr. Obama had picked up the phone, at least two of the Americans killed in the attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi might still be alive because he might have been able to push U.S. aid to get to the scene faster.

The White House has said Mr. Obama was kept up to date on the attack by his staff, though after being alerted to the attack in a pre-scheduled afternoon meeting he never spoke again with the defense secretary or the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Current Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told Congress last week that he knew immediately the attacks were a terrorist assault, though the White House downplayed that notion in the first five days after the attack.

Republican senators said they will still push for more information on who changed the talking points given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, who went on the Sunday talk shows after the attacks and blamed protests against an anti-Islam video.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/14/white-house-no-phone-calls-benghazi/#ixzz2KuYudpdn
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

He did call Netanyahu , so he did use the phone once after he knew about the Benghazi attack.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 14, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
BREAKING: Obama made no phone calls on night of Benghazi attack, White House says


He did call Netanyahu , so he did use the phone once after he knew about the Benghazi attack.

Obama, Netanyahu: Hour phone call Tuesday night; White House denies snub

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012/09/obama_netanyahu_hour_phone_cal.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 15, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Obama knew of IED attacks in run-up to Benghazi strike, lawmaker says


(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Opinion/0/371/111512_Libya.jpg)Sept. 12, 2012: A man looks at documents at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, after an attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

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President Obama knew about the IED attacks on the Benghazi consulate in the run-up to the deadly Sept. 11 assault, a top Republican lawmaker claims, suggesting the president was aware of the deteriorating security situation.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Thursday that Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told him "the president was informed of the April and June attacks." One of those attacks, in June, blew a hole in the perimeter wall of the Benghazi compound. The two strikes were among dozens of security incidents recorded in the region in the months preceding Sept. 11, and in hindsight have been described as warning signs.

The disclosure about Obama comes after a string of Capitol Hill hearings in which top administration officials downplayed how much they knew about the security situation at the compound in advance of the September attack.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, at a hearing shortly before she left the administration, said she never saw an Aug. 16 State Department cable sent to her office that warned the consulate could not sustain a coordinated attack.

"I have made it very clear that the security cables did not come to my attention," she said. The cable was first reported by Fox News.

While Clinton claims her deputies never showed her the cable -- which has been described as the smoking-gun warning -- Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey later said they were in fact apprised of that cable.

Asked whether Obama had wanted anything done about the unraveling security situation in Benghazi, neither Clapper's office nor the National Security Council would address the question.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/15/obama-knew-attacks-in-run-up-to-benghazi-strike-lawmaker-says/?test=latestnews#ixzz2L0mFVID2


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 16, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Obama Fiddled

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The late Ted Kennedy became known as “the Hero of Chappaquiddick” for leaving a young lady to die after accidentally driving his car off a bridge on the night of July 18, 1969. Kennedy, who swam free, said nothing to police until 10 a.m. the following day.

In the subsequent inquest, John Farrar, a professional diver and the captain of the Edgartown Fire Rescue unit on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts, discovered the body of Mary Jo Kopechne in the well of the backseat of the overturned and submerged car. He said in his testimony:

It looked as if she were holding herself up to get a last breath of air. It was a consciously assumed position.… She didn’t drown. She died of suffocation in her own air void. It took her at least three or four hours to die. I could have had her out of that car twenty-five minutes after I had the call. But he (Ted Kennedy) didn’t call.

President Barack Obama deserves similar obloquy as “the Commander-in-Chief who went AWOL” on September 12, 2012 — during the eight-hour siege in which heavily-armed terrorists burnt the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

To be sure, there are major differences between the two events. Unlike Kennedy, the president did not directly endanger the life or lives of others. Like Kennedy, however, he went missing when he could have tried to mount a rescue mission, or at least weighed

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/02/15/obama-fiddled


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 16, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
Time, Distance, and Indecision

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There isn’t a special operations trooper who wouldn’t have gone into Benghazi “blind” if it was necessary to rescue a contingent of Americans. The idea that critical intelligence must be gathered, analyzed, and evaluated before a SO force proceeds on a critical retrieval mission may be academically correct, but not strictly followed in real life critical combat rescue. U.S. special forces of every kind go into harm’s way when and where they are needed with little regard for themselves. It’s the mission that counts, and the mission clearly was to rescue the guys in Benghazi. For some reason this fact escaped Washington’s high military command.

Why is it that after over eleven years of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq that the Senate Intelligence Committee will swallow the story that no forces were available in adequate time and distance to relieve Benghazi? To begin with, why wasn’t some high ranking White House or Pentagon official on the phone to commercial airlines serving Spain to see who could aid in the mission by redirecting existing transport so the Marine FAST team could be wheels-up in minimal time if no military air assets were available? The concept of chartering or even commandeering available U.S. civilian transport has been in existence since the days of General Washington. When faced with a military crisis, such actions have considerable precedent.

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/02/14/time-distance-and-indecision


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 21, 2013, 12:50:05 PM
White House: Obama Called Hillary on Night of Benghazi Attack

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The White House now claims President Barack Obama called former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at approximately 10 PM on the night of the Benghazi attacks, September 11, 2012.

This is "about the same time" Clinton released a statement condemning a YouTube video which Islamists claimed incited the attacks.

Obama's claimed phone call to Hillary and Hillary's statement would occur approximately six hours after the attacks had started.

The White House made this assertion only after outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta told Congress that Obama did not contact him the night of the attacks after a "pre-scheduled" 5 PM meeting. Panetta said neither he nor General Martin Dempsey heard from Obama after this meeting and that no one from the White House called at any point during the attacks.

White House spokesman Jay Carney insisted that the President remained in contact with his national security team: "Like every president before him, [Obama] has a national security and deputy national security adviser. He was in regular contact with his national security team directly, and spoke with the Secretary of State at approximately 10 p.m."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/20/White-House-Obama-Called-Hillary-on-Night-of-Benghazi-Attack


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 22, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
Obama administration to provide emails on CIA’s Libya talking points to Senate panel

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The Obama administration has agreed to provide emails pertaining to the controversial CIA talking points which critics say pushed an inaccurate picture of what happened during the terror attack last September in Benghazi, a congressional source tells Fox News.

“We expect that will be done early next week,” the source said, adding the administration has agreed to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s request to review the emails.

The source did not immediately make clear whether members of the committee would go into a room and read the emails, or whether hard copies would be permanently supplied to the committee.

The source noted that the committee has already seen details on how the controversial talking points were changed from their original drafting. Terms like Al Qaeda were stripped out, which led Republican lawmakers to charge the talking points were deliberately watered down -- it’s unclear which versions of the talking points members of the Senate committee might see.

The intelligence community’s talking points were provided to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice and formed the basis of her controversial comments on all the major Sunday talk shows five

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/22/obama-administration-to-provide-emails-on-cias-libya-talking-points-to-senate/?test=latestnews


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on February 28, 2013, 03:06:17 PM
CBS’ Sharyl Attkisson May Get A Personal Threat from the Obama White House After This

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/27/cbs-sharyl-attkisson-may-get-a-personal-threat-from-the-obama-white-house-after-this/?print=1


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 02, 2013, 12:54:39 PM
Congressman Wolf to Sec. Kerry: Turn over Benghazi Survivors

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Although Congressional hearings regarding the deadly attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi brought both Hillary Clinton to Capitol Hill as well as CIA Director Leon Panetta to answer questions, Republicans still want more questions answered about the assault that took the lives of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Congressman Frank Wolf (R - VA), Chairman of the Appropriations Committee, and Congressman Jim Gerlach (R - PA), a House Ways and Means Committee member, sent a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday and indicated that he was contacted by a "reliable source who provided information that there are wounded American personnel, including State Department employees, currently in rehabilitation and recovery at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center."

Wolf's letter continues saying that the source told him that as many as seven Americans have been or were given medical treatment at the facility, a number of which were State employees.  According to both Wolf and Gerlach, another source corroborated the claim and "indicated that as many as 30 Americans (including State Department and CIA personnel and government contractors) may have been injured in the attack."

The Congressmen told Secretary Kerry they would like to visit the survivors of the Benghazi attack at Walter Reed, "as they have endured much for their country and we owe them a debt of gratitude." They are also requesting from Sec. Kerry the names and contact information to all the State Department employees who survived the Benghazi attack.
 - See more at: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/01/Wolf-to-Kerry-Turn-Over-Benghazi-Survivors#sthash.cONP6ovl.dpuf


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 02, 2013, 05:25:18 PM
Senators complain after getting 'worthless' redacted version of Benghazi talking points



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But the first batch of documents contained hundreds of pages that were of no use, the source said.

“It was so redacted that there was no information whatsoever,” said the source, who spoke to Fox on the condition they not be identified. “There were some documents that were 100 pages with every word on the page redacted. They were worthless.”

A second set of documents were delivered to Capitol Hill Thursday night which had only minimal redactions. 

The source speculated that the administration had two sets of documents ready to go: one that was redacted and another that didn’t. Senators have asked to see the documents as a part of their inquiry into the attack on Benghazi. Senators also wanted the documents before they were willing to vote on John Brennan to be Director of Central Intelligence.

A committee vote on Brennan’s nomination is set for Tuesday.

The documents reveal various email traffic about the “talking points” which were passed through a litany of Washington power centers: The White House, the FBI, the CIA, and the Justice Department. The source questions why it took the Obama administration months to deliver the information when all of these agencies had dealt with the email traffic.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/01/senators-complain-after-getting-worthless-redacted-version-benghazi-talking/#ixzz2MQLRk4po



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 06, 2013, 01:01:49 PM
Report: 'Press Shop' Removed Al-Qaeda from Benghazi Talking Points

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Since CBS News learned that the Obama administration delivered Benghazi documents to the Senate Intelligence Committee last Thursday, a source who has viewed the documents is telling the network that someone “in a federal agency ‘press shop’ was involved in changing the talking points to remove al-Qaeda.”


 In fact, CBS’s source says the docs say that there were warnings from Libya that were sent to Washington days before the deadly attack on the U.S. mission that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens that specifically alerted the administration about an imminent attack on the U.S. consulate.

 The source who read the Benghazi material also said that the documents say most of the correspondence between Libya and Washington from the beginning of the attacks to point to al Qaeda or al Qaeda affiliates “as being the likely instigators.”

 Another source, CBS says who saw the documents, states the litt

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/05/Report-Warnings-From-Libya-To-Obama-Admin-Of-Imminent-Al-Qaeda-Attack-Days-Before-Benghazi-Hit

CBS Report: Press Officers Changed Benghazi Talking Points

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According to a source interviewed by CBS, officials in the “press shops” of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the White House, and the FBI were responsible, at least in part, for altering the Benghazi talking points given to U.N. ambassador Susan Rice:

Prior to the Senate Intelligence Committee’s vote on CIA director nominee John Brennan to move to a full Senate vote, the Obama administration provided much of the information the Senate Intelligence Committee had been requesting for five months regarding the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S consulate in Benghazi, Libya, CBS News has learned. The documents are voluminous and both Republicans and Democrats on the committee had the opportunity to review them.

Documents provided include emails regarding “who changed the Benghazi talking points” and many communications between officials in Libya and Washington, D.C., leading up to and during the attack.

Regarding the talking points: one source who reviewed the documents said removal of the word “al Qaeda” from the talking points was initiated, at least in part, by one of the “press shops.” The source said press officers from the Defense Intelligence agency, the White House and the FBI were “looped in” from the start and that some of them expressed concerns in writing that the media would ask follow up questions if certain words or phrases were used. The source added that the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell were included in these emails.

CBS had previously reported that references to “al-Qaeda” and “terrorism” were cut by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which Clapper heads, and that these changes were signed off on by the CIA and FBI. But that report was called into question by the closed-door testimony of Clapper and acting CIA director Mike Morrell in November, who reportedly insisted that they were not sure who had finalized the talking points.

They may have been less than forthcoming on that point, according to CBS’s latest report:

When asked whether Clapper and Morell misled Congress when they didn’t disclose who changed the talking points (because they knew), one source said “the exact right question wasn’t asked.”

There’s also this detail from CBS’s source,

“The documents indicated numerous other changes were made to the talking points, including removal of certain references to an “attack.”

which seems to be at odds with the line taken by a “senior U.S. official” in their earlier report:

“The points were not, as has been insinuated by some, edited to minimize the role of extremists, diminish terrorist affiliations, or play down that this was an attack,” the official tells CBS.

Just as a reminder, Susan Rice told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday immediately after the attack that:

The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/342313/cbs-report-press-officers-changed-benghazi-talking-points-katherine-connell


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 08, 2013, 02:27:18 PM
LYONS: Benghazi cover-up continues, nearly six months later

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One of the hopeful outcomes of the Senate confirmation hearings for John Brennan to be director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Chuck Hagel to be the secretary of Defense was to gain some concrete answers to the Benghazi tragedy. So far, though, no additional useful information has been released. Further, the testimony of former Secretary of Defense Leon E. Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey on Feb. 7 before the Senate Armed Services Committee only raised more questions. The cloud of a cover-up continues.

In that sense, much of the focus by the various congressional committees has been on “who made the changes to the talking points” used by our UN Ambassador Susan Rice on her marathon Sunday interviews in September. Though important, this question diverts attention away from the key issues. For example, what activity was actually being conducted at our Benghazi Special Mission Compound (SMC)? Was it involved in transferring arms to Syrian rebels and al Qaeda-affiliated militias fighting Russia’s key ally in the Middle East, Bashar al-Assad?

The out-of-control security situation in Eastern Libya including Benghazi was well known. After an assassination attempt on the UK ambassador in June, the Brits closed their Benghazi consulate, as did the International Red Cross. We had a bomb go off at our Benghazi SMC compound on June 6. We know Ambassador Christopher J. Stevens put out a classified message on Aug. 16 stating that the SMC could not be defended and requesting additional security personnel, but he was turned down.   

With the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi, why did Stevens find it necessary to be there on the 11th anniversary of Sept. 11 when we know he feared for his safety? Having dinner with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin is not a compelling reason. Further, on that day, there were tactical warning signs that something was not right. Even the Blue Mountain Security manager of the February 17 Martyrs Brigade that was contracted to provide security for the SMC sensed that “something” was wrong and put out an alert on both his radios and cell phone. We know one of the local policemen who was assigned to guard the SMC was found taking pictures of the inside of the compound, and a memo later found written by Stevens shows he found this to be “troubling.” We know roadblocks were established by the Ansar al-Shariah militia who carried out the assault hours before the attack.

Was Stevens targeted to be killed, or was he supposed to be taken hostage in exchange for the return of the Blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman? We know his body was taken to the hospital controlled by the militia that carried out the attack. Why?

The Accountability Review Board appointed by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton provided few answers. It was like having the mafia investigate a crime scene.

Why there was no military response remains an open question. According to testimony given by then-Secretary Panetta, President Obama ordered the Defense Department to respond to the attack with “all available DOD assets.” Implicit within such an order is the authority for cross-border operations (CBO). With that directive, subsequent statements by the secretary of Defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff explaining why military forces could not be deployed in time to assist our ambassador and his staff with their cries for help were simply not credible.

It is understood that a “stand down order” was given. General David Petreaus has stated no such order came from the CIA. As Americans, we don’t leave our people under duress on the battlefield. The American people need to know if such an order was given and by whom.

The chairman’s statement that it would have taken 20 hours to deploy aircraft from Aviano, Italy, to Benghazi is simply not true. We had two squadrons of F-16 fighter aircraft stationed at Aviano. As part of their normal readiness status, designated aircraft are kept on alert to be able to respond instantly to any mission. Even if we allowed 10 minutes to “hot-refuel,” the F-16s could have arrived over Benghazi in 90 minutes. There is no question they would have made a difference. Tanker aircraft could have followed the F-16s, which would have permitted them to remain on station over Benghazi for hours. They may not have been able to save Stevens or Sean Smith, but they certainly could have saved our two Navy SEALs, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. They would have carried out attacks on the jihadist that Woods had illuminated with his laser, instead of allowing Woods and Doherty to become the targets.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/7/lyons-benghazi-cover-continues-nearly-six-months-l/#ixzz2MyhrSgyB
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Post by: apples on March 13, 2013, 01:07:02 PM
Reps escalate demands for information on Benghazi survivors, suggest 'cover-up'

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Republican lawmakers are stepping up their campaign to gain access to the survivors of the Benghazi terror attack, with one claiming the Obama administration is engaging in a "cover-up" and another threatening to bring "legal charges."

The frustration is mounting six months after the Sept. 11 attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya. Republicans have sparred with the Obama administration over a range of issues -- from the faulty explanation over what caused the attack to the warning signs missed in advance of it -- but have focused recently on the surviving victims. They say they've been stonewalled in their attempts to get a list of survivors and speak with them.

Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., told Fox News on Tuesday that some have been at a Washington-area military hospital since the attack, saying their injuries must be "serious."

Yet, he said, "we don't honor these people, we don't mention their names."

"It's like it's a dark hole, and I think we're now at a point -- now there is a cover-up," Wolf told Fox News, calling for a "select committee" to investigate Benghazi.   

On Monday, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., also sent a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, complaining that the department "appears to be stonewalling a legitimate request for information, perhaps as part of an effort to cover up evidence of wrongdoing or incompetence."

He wrote that the House Foreign Affairs Committee, on which he sits, has the right to know "what the survivors saw and experienced ... on that dreadful night."

The congressman said he would recommend to top Republican lawmakers that "legal charges" be brought if the situation does not "immediately improve." It's not clear who those charges might be leveled against, but it was an apparent reference to lawmakers' ability to bring contempt of Congress claims.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/12/reps-escalate-demands-for-information-on-benghazi-survivors-suggest-cover-up/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 15, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Sen. Graham claims Benghazi survivors 'told to be quiet' by administration




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Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, in an interview with Fox News, alleged that the injured survivors of the Benghazi terror attack have been "told to be quiet" and feel they can't come forward to tell their stories -- escalating his push for more information about survivors who have never been publicly identified.

The White House is denying any attempt to exert pressure on them.

"I'm sure that the White House is not preventing anyone from speaking," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, when asked about the survivors.

But Graham told Fox News that "the bottom line is they feel that they can't come forth, they've been told to be quiet."

"We cannot let this administration or any other administration get away with hiding from the American people and Congress, people who were there in real time to tell the story," Graham said


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/15/sen-graham-claims-benghazi-survivors-told-to-be-quiet-by-administration/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2NeQy3adF


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: Stan In FL on March 15, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
there was a friday document dump. . .


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 17, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
SOS at CPAC: "Where's Admiral Gaouette?" and the "Benghazi CBA"

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CAPT Larry Bailey, USN (Ret.), a former senior SEAL commander and co-founder of Special Operation Speaks, demands to know, "Where the heck is Admiral Gaouette?" ADM Gaouette was the commander of the USS Stennis Carrier Strike Group on station in the Persian Gulf area who was mysteriously summarily stripped of his command during the attack in Benghazi, Libya, in which Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were murdered.

Several days afterward, it was reported that ADM Gaouette was summarily relieved of his command during a major operational contingency event during the Benghazi attacks for the alleged claim of "inappropriate leadership judgment." ADM Gaouette's detention and total disappearance weeks before the November 2012 presidential election was a story that CAPT Bailey says "disappeared into a black hole of silence."

CAPT Bailey, as a "Brother-in-the-Navy" of ADM Gaouette, has some urgent and vital questions:

Where is ADM Gaouette now, and where has he been for over 4 months?

Why hasn't Congress called ADM Gaouette to testify about the 2012 Benghazi fiasco, when he clearly was a key operational senior commander in-theater?

If ADM Gaouette is under some type of detention, what does "inappropriate leadership judgment" mean, what is he specifically charged with, and does he have proper legal counsel?

CAPT Bailey urges anyone who heard or saw anything, or has even the smallest most innocuous piece of the puzzle, to tell them what that piece is. He says, "The more questions SOS asks, the bigger the black hole of silence becomes."

Col. Richard F. (Dick) Brauer, Jr, USAF (Ret.), SOS Air Commando Coordinator co-Founder of SOS, has a slightly different, but still vital question: "Where was President Obama's CBA (Cross Border Authority) for the Benghazi ‘rescue’ attempt when US Defense Secretary Panetta claimed Obama told him, ‘Do whatever you gotta do to save American life.’?”

Col. Brauer explains that an insertion of any US forces into Benghazi, Libya, or across any international border into a country where US forces were not deployed, would have required a special US Presidential CBA authorization to be issued. So, in effect, Obama's telling Secretary Panetta to "Do whatever you gotta do" without simultaneously issuing a specific CBA enabling such action is like "telling a fire station to extinguish a 5-alarm blaze while the firemen were not legally allowed to even leave the fire house, go to the fire, or douse the burning building."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166278#.UUYMBTe2Wf0


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 19, 2013, 01:14:36 PM
Hacker Begins Distributing Confidential Memos Sent To Hillary Clinton On Libya, Benghazi Attack

http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php?topic=15994.new#new


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 19, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
Where Are the Benghazi Survivors?

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Where are the survivors? The unseemly efforts undertaken by the Obama administration, Democratic collaborators and a calculatingly uninterested mainstream media to avoid answering one of the fundamental questions of the Benghazi debacle will no longer suffice. Republicans in both the House and the Senate have made it clear they have run out of patience with the administration?s effort to keep the survivors isolated. If they are successful, this scandal may finally get the kind of national attention it so richly deserves.

The effort to keep the Benghazi survivors under wraps is nothing new. On December 12, 2012, Breitbart News revealed that Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R- UT) had been ?thwarted? by the State Department from seeing any of these Americans, some of whom had been badly injured. ?My understanding is that we still have some people in the hospital,? Chaffetz said at the time. ?I?d like to visit with them and wish them nothing but the best but the State Department has seen it unfit for me to know who those people are?or even how many there are. I don?t know who they are. I don?t know where they live. I don?t know what state they?re from. I don?t even know how many there are. It doesn?t seem right to me.?

One would think that such an allegation would command the attention of investigative journalists across the nation. One would be wrong. Other than media referring back to the Breitbart story, there wasn?t one other news outlet interested in either the survivors or the disturbing reality that the State Department was keeping them secret.

Questions about them were revived when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton successfully stonewalled clueless Republicans during her testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last January. At that time it was reported that five of the 20-30 people who survived the attack were State Department Diplomatic Security agents evacuated to Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. When Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) questioned Clinton, she revealed that she had only talked to one unnamed survivor, and that she felt it was ?inappropriate? to talk to the others until they had been interrogated by the FBI. Not a single Republican bothered to ask why contact with the State Department would have tainted an FBI investigation. Clinton, who helped perpetrate the administration lie that the Benghazi attack was precipitated by an incendiary video posted months beforehand on the Internet, walked away unscathed.

After Clinton?s appearance, Sen. John McCain claimed he wanted to hear directly from the survivors, saying they should come to Capitol Hill and report their own versions of what occurred on September 11. ?They should certainly [do so]. If not come up to Capitol Hill at least be identified and take their statements as to what they saw,? he said. He continued. ?We still want the questions answered. We?ll do everything we can to get answers to questions. The American people deserve them. Like Hillary said, ?there are four dead Americans.??

In February, Breitbart reported that Bill Bransford, a Washington, D.C. attorney at Shaw Bransford & Roth P.C. who specializes in federal employment law, contended that the survivors cannot legally reveal to the press or most members of Congress that they were even witnesses to the carnage. ?First of all, I?m assuming that most of these people who witnessed the attack, except for the State Department folks, would be intelligence people, and they are not covered by the whistle blower protection laws,? Bransford explained.

He further revealed that State Department employees must sign non-disclosure agreements. ?If somebody violates one of these non-disclosure agreements, the consequences could include interfering with a criminal investigation, obstruction of justice, criminal charges for releasing classified information, and those are pretty serious,? he warned. Yet Bransford also said that State Department employees are covered by the Whistleblower Protection Act, but that a revision of the law, the Whistle Blower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012, was so new, some of the changes may not yet be in effect.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/where-are-the-benghazi-survivors/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 28, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
Benghazi's Silenced Witnesses Hidden In Plain Sight?

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Benghazi Scandal: A Virginia congressman says the witnesses to an act of war on sovereign U.S. territory are being held incommunicado in a Washington, D.C., hospital by their own government. Free the American 30.

When 52 Americans were seized and held hostage by the foreign government of Iran and held for 444 days, it was a national embarrassment that helped bring down a presidency and spawned a late-night news program, "America Held Hostage," which would become ABC's Nightline.

The Sept. 11, 2012, organized and planned terrorist attack on our diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, is a similar national embarrassment, an event prompted by what in a court would be deemed criminal negligence as U.S. diplomats were denied the security they needed and requested as a callous administration, through its Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, would later say, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

It makes a difference how and why it happened, and that the survivors of that terrorist attack could tell us the how and why if they weren't being held hostage by their own government under the cover of an "ongoing" investigation that is seemingly going nowhere.

Worse yet, they may be held in plain sight, right under the eyes of a sleeping Washington press corps.

It matters to GOP representatives Frank Wolf of Virginia and Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania, who have written to new Secretary of State John Kerry asking him for the names and contact information for each of the individuals who survived Benghazi.

Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/032613-649433-are-30-benghazi-survivors-being-held-to-keep-them-quiet-.htm#ixzz2Ore0O3kw
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Post by: apples on March 29, 2013, 02:27:46 PM

Sources Say Fifth Person Dead From Attack at Benghazi: An SKK Exclusive


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A fifth person died as a result of the attack on our outpost at Benghazi, say sources familiar with events that took place there on 11 September 2012.

"This is not being reported by State or White House," said one source, who has knowledge of events surrounding the attack that killed former SEAL Glen Doherty, computer tech Sean Smith, Ambassador Chris Stevens, and former SEAL Tyrone Woods.

The source did not specify whether the fifth person killed was American, nor in what capacity the person worked.

"There were people stationed there in a clandestine capacity," the source said.

A second source who is intimately familiar with the investigation affirmed the fifth death.

"You are correct about that," the source said.

Neither source divulged whether the person died at the scene or afterward.

http://www.susankatzkeating.com/2013/03/sources-say-fifth-person-dead-from.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 31, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Hillary Clinton snagged in Benghazi cover-up

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JERUSALEM – As media reports present evidence the U.S. has played a central role in arming Syrian rebels, new questions now emerge about former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s involvement in the controversial scheme.

The questions prompt a second look at the perplexing security decisions made by Clinton and other top Obama administration officials the night of the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on American facilities in Benghazi.


One of those key decisions reportedly delayed an investigative FBI team from arriving at the Benghazi site for 24 days. The site was widely reported to have contained classified documents.

WND raised the Thursday of whether Clinton was telling the truth when she claimed in a Senate hearing that she had no information about whether the U.S. mission in Libya was procuring or transferring weapons to Turkey and other Arab countries.

Her claim appears to contradict a New York Times report that the CIA has been aiding Arab governments and Turkey in obtaining and shipping weapons to the Syrian rebels.

The goal of the alleged weapons shipments was to arm the rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

Any training or arming of the Syrian rebels would be considered highly controversial. A major issue is the inclusion of jihadists, including al-Qaida, among the ranks of the Free Syrian Army and other Syrian opposition groups

Now a closer reading of two separate reports from the New York Times paints a picture of Clinton as the ring leader of the plan to arm Syrian rebels.

Confirming WND’s exclusive reporting for over a year, the New York Times last week reported that since early 2012, the CIA has been aiding the Arab governments and Turkey in shopping for and transporting weapons to the Syrian rebels.

The reported plan to arm the rebels mirrors a plan that, according to the New York Times, was concocted by Clinton herself.

Last month, the New York Times described Clinton as one of the driving forces advocating a plan to arm the Syrian rebels. At the time, the newspaper quoted White House officials stating they rejected the plan, which was also proposed by then-CIA Director David Petraeus.

A comparison of the Clinton plan to arms the rebels, as first reported by the Times, and the new Times report of American-aided shipments to the rebels since last year makes clear the Clinton plan was apparently put into action.

Last month, the Times reported that the idea of the Clinton plan was to “vet the rebel groups and train fighters, who would be supplied with weapons.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/hillary-clinton-snagged-in-benghazi-cover-up/#dBJg7B4SpYg6eQr9.99


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Post by: Stan In FL on March 31, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
if we can put enough pressure on her, maybe we can get her (or her husband) to roll over on Obama.  That's the only way we are going to find out who gave the order to stand down that night.



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Post by: apples on April 07, 2013, 02:20:44 PM
Mother Of Slain Benghazi Officer To Sean Hannity: ‘They Want Me To Shut Up’

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On Friday, Sean Hannity brought Pat Smith, mother of the late Sean Smith, on his radio program. The 34-year-old information management officer was one of four Americans murdered in the Benghazi embassy attack on September 11, 2012.

In the chilling interview, a distraught Ms. Smith, in tears, pleaded for answers and spoke of the efforts to silence her.

Ms. Smith first relayed how her son, prior to the attack, requested additional security in advance and warned the State Department:

He did tell them, ahead of time, he typed it into his little typewriter over there, that they were going to be attacked, ‘please they needed more security,’ and they were ignored. And I don’t appreciate everybody going to bed and going to sleep and not taking care of the guys that they put in harm’s way, one of them being my son.

[Ms. Smith is likely referring to reports that President Obama went back to bed after learning of the attack on the compound.]

When Hannity asked how many times Sean warned the State Department or whom he warned, Smith replied:

My son himself told me that he warned them…. He said: ‘I told them, I sent messages’…. He was on the tele-type of whatever it is… he was on there telling them, just before it happened, and that the guy out there was taking pictures of the place. He was telling them that. He was a communications guy and he was communicating that.

Smith then spoke of the intimidation she has experienced, in her quest for answers, noting she is being silenced, though Hannity clarified it is not by someone in the government:

They don’t tell me much. They want me to shut up…. I was told, and I really would rather not say by who, [though] I can if you need it, but I was told that I’m causing a lot of problems and to shut up…. I told them ‘I will not! I will not shut up until I find out what really happened!’

http://www.mediaite.com/online/mother-of-slain-benghazi-officer-to-sean-hannity-they-want-me-to-shut-up/


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Post by: apples on April 08, 2013, 12:52:20 PM
Special ops veterans’ group calls for select probe of Benghazi attack


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More than 700 Special Operations veterans are urging members of Congress to back a select committee to investigate last year’s Benghazi terrorist attack, according to a letter first obtained by Fox News.

The letter from the group, “Special Operations Speaks,” supports the appointment of a special committee tasked with the single mission of investigating the attack that left Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead, and shut down the CIA operation in an annex of the Benghazi consulate, in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack.

“Congress must show some leadership and provide answers to the public as to what actually occurred in Benghazi.  Americans have a right to demand a full accounting on this issue," the letter stated. 

Special Operations Speaks is a political action committee whose primary mission is to “emphasize the pressing need for the nation and its representatives to understand the value of our Constitution and actively support a return to its application in all phases of government,” according to the group’s website.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/07/special-ops-veterans-group-calls-for-select-probe-benghazi-attack/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2PtL9CI00


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Post by: apples on April 08, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
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700 Retired Military Special Ops Tell Congress to Form Select Committee on Benghazi

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Seven hundred retired Military Special Operations professionals from the organization "Special Operations Speaks" sent a letter to the House of Representatives urging members to support H.Res 36, which will create a House Select Committee to investigate last September’s deadly terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. 

 “It appears that many of the facts and details surrounding the terrorist attack which resulted in four American deaths and an undetermined number of American casualties have not yet been ascertained by previous hearings and inquiries,” the letter states. It continues further, "Additional information is now slowly surfacing in the media, which makes a comprehensive bipartisan inquiry an imperative. Many questions have not been answered thus far." The letter puts forth over twenty unanswered questions the select committee should address.

 Congressman Frank Wolf (R-VA), a sub-committee chairman on the House Appropriations Committee, issued a resolution for a House Select Committee to investigate issues surrounding the Benghazi Attack last November in the 112th Congress. He re-issued his resolution for the select committee when the 113th Congress began. The resolution currently has over 60 co–sponsors.

 Only Speaker John Boehner (R–OH) can appoint a Select Committee and Boehner appears to mainly rely on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to investigate the Benghazi attack. However, any information that may be garnered from that committee will, as always, remain classified.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/07/Seven-Hundred-Retired-Military-Special-Ops-Tell-Congress-To-Form-Select-Committee-On-Benghazi


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Post by: apples on April 12, 2013, 01:07:07 PM
Sean Smith’s Mom: Obama Didn’t Follow-Up on Personal Promise; Asks Congress: ‘Please, Please Help Me Find Out Who is Responsible’

(http://www.cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/medium/images/SEAN%20SMITH-STATE%20DEPARTMENT%20PHOTO-1.jpg)Terrorists murdered State Department Information Management Officer Sean Smith in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012. (State Dept. photo)

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(CNSNews.com) - Patricia Smith--the mother of Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, who was murdered by terrorists in Benghazi seven months ago today--says that President Barack Obama and other administration officials did not follow-up on promises they made to her personally when she traveled to Washington, D.C. last September to meet the return to the United States of her son’s casket.

Mrs. Smith says she wants to know why her son and the others at the State Department compound in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012 were abandoned by their government.

“Please, Please help me find out who is responsible and fix it so no more of our sons and daughters are abandoned by the country they love,” she said in a letter sent Monday to Rep. Frank Wolf (R.-Va.)

“When I was in Wash. DC at the reception of the caskets, I asked for and received promises from Pres. Obama, Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta, VP Biden and several other dignitaries in attendance,” Mrs. Smith said in her letter. “They all looked me directly in the eyes and promised they would find out and let me know. I got only one call from a clerk about a month later quoting from the time line, which I already had.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sean-smith-s-mom-obama-didn-t-follow-personal-promise-asks-congress-please-please-help

Getting Obama to keep a promise is like asking Bill Clinton to keep his pants zipped up.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 12, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
Benghazi victim's mother endorses GOP call for full probe

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The mother of slain State Department employee Sean Smith has endorsed Republicans' call for a select committee to investigate last year's attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

In a letter to Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), Patricia Smith wrote that her son and the three other Americans killed on Sept. 11, 2012 — including Ambassador Christopher Stevens — were “abandoned” by the White House. Wolf is the sponsor of H. Res. 36, which has 89 co-sponsors.

 “Please, Please help me find out who is responsible and fix it so no more of our sons & daughters are abandoned by the country they love,” Smith wrote.


Smith was an IT officer at the U.S. mission, according to the State Department. Hours before the attack, he posted a message on a gaming forum saying the installation appeared to be under surveillance.

“Assuming we don't die tonight,” he said. “We saw one of our ‘police' that guard the compound taking pictures.”

In her letter, his mother says he shared those concerns with her as well.

“I especially want to know WHY the four were abandoned the way they were,” she wrote. “My son told me that he saw someone taking pictures just before this happened and reported it. He told me they asked repeatedly for better security.”

Smith's letter comes days after 700 special operations veterans endorsed the resolution.

Wolf's resolution would combine all existing investigations into a single review of the attack and the administration's response, similar to the select committees that were established during Watergate and the Iran Contra scandals of the 1970s. He has urged Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to establish the panel.

Here's Smith's full letter:

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/293339-mother-of-slain-state-department-employee-endorses-gop-call-for-benghazi-probe


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Post by: apples on April 17, 2013, 12:55:08 PM
Kerry vows Benghazi liaison to Congress within 24 hours, amid lingering questions



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Secretary of State John Kerry said Wednesday he will appoint a special department liaison to help Congress with unanswered questions about the 2012 fatal terror attacks on a United States outpost in Libya.

Kerry said the appointment will be made as early as Thursday, following repeated questions about the incident, during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing.

“I’ll appoint somebody tomorrow,” Kerry said.

Kerry’s remark followed sharp comments from California Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, who suggested the Obama administration has lied to congressional investigators.

“Nobody has lied to anybody,” responded Kerry, who became the country's top diplomat after the attacks.

Congressional Republicans have led efforts since the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans were killed, to learn more about what preceded the incident and the aftermath.

There have been no arrests in direct connection to the killings.

However, Kerry said Wednesday that officials are working with the Libyan government and “building a case.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/17/kerry-vows-benghazi-liaison-to-congress-within-24-hours-amid-lingering/?test=latestnews#ixzz2Qjy867Ca

Don't need a liaison John Forbes Kerry....just tell us where was Obama for those 8 hours or so hours? Just answer who gave the order to stand down???? real easy.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 17, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Kerry 'Not Aware' of State Dept. Impeding Congressional Probe Into Benghazi

Kerry 'Not Aware' of State Dept. Impeding Congressional Probe Into Benghazi there fixed it!

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CNSNews.com) - Secretary of State John Kerry reminded the House Foreign Affairs Committee Wednesday that he was "on the other side of the podium" when U.S. interests came under attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, and he said if the State Department is trying to impede the committee's investigation into embassy security, he's "not aware" of it.

"There's certainly no position by me to delay anything," Kerry said, "and I was not aware that -- you know, if there's anything that is appropriate to turn over." Kerry said he wants to check "historical precedent" regarding investigative and FBI documents relating to the terror attack.

Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.) told Kerry that instead of handing over documents and records requested by the committee, as has happened in the past, the State Department "has insisted that the committee staff sift through thousands of pages of materials in a room in which they are monitored by the Department. And they can't remove any or make electronic copies of those documents," Royce said.

So we have a new nickname for Forbes eh!  Kerry not aware to go with Hillary what difference does it make.



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 18, 2013, 12:04:11 PM
House investigators talking to new Benghazi whistleblowers

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CBS News has learned that multiple new whistleblowers are privately speaking to investigators with the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee regarding the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya.


The nature of the communications with the whistleblowers and their identities are not being made public at this time. But in response, the Oversight Committee yesterday sent letters to the three federal agencies involved: the CIA, the Defense Department and the State Department.

Six months later, where are the Benghazi survivors?
Man questioned in Libya over Benghazi attack

The letters make the case for the whistleblowers to be able to share sensitive or classified information with their own attorneys, and ask for each agency's official description of the legal steps that process must follow. The letters also state that additional witnesses may be "compelled by subpoena to give testimony."


Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed in the Benghazi attacks seven months ago. No arrests have been made.


Various Republican members of Congress and congressional committees have been investigating several facets of the incident including lax security, the U.S. response during the attacks, and the Obama administration's initial statements blaming a "spontaneous protest" gone awry, rather than planned terrorist attacks. A State Department board of investigators issued a series of recommendations on ways to try to avoid a similar tragedy in the future, and the department is implementing them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57580105/house-investigators-talking-to-new-benghazi-whistleblowers/


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Post by: apples on April 18, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
John Kerry On Benghazi: "We Got A Lot More Important Things To Move On To"

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REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA): Mr. Secretary, we think that there was a coverup of some kind of wrongdoing that led this administration to lie to the American people about the nature of the attack immediately after the attack and for a week after that attack. We need to have these questions answered. We need to talk to the people who are on the scene. Can you give us a commitment now that for this administration you will be coming up with the request, the honest request of this investigative committee as to who was evacuated and how to talk to them so we can get a straight answer and an understanding of what happened in Benghazi?

 SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY: Well, before I became Secretary, Congressman, I believe I got the answers to who was evacuated and had a pretty good sense of what happened there. But now that I am the Secretary and I am responsible to you and the Congress, I can promise you that if you're not getting something that you have evidence of or you think you ought to be getting, we'll work with you. And I will appoint somebody to work directly with you starting tomorrow, with you, Mr. Chairman, to have a review of anything you don't think you've gotten that you're supposed to get. Let's get this done with, folks.

 ROHRABACHER: Thanks.

 KERRY: Let's figure out what it is that's missing, if it's legitimate or if it isn't. I don't think anybody lied to anybody. And let's find out exactly, together, what happened, because we need -- we got a lot more important things to move on to and get done. (House Foreign Affairs Committee, April 17, 2013)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/04/18/kerry_asked_about_benghazi_we_got_a_lot_more_important_things_to_move_on_to.html


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Post by: apples on April 19, 2013, 01:04:55 PM
Ty Woods' Dad Seeks Benghazi Answers On Capitol Hill



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Benghazi: As new whistle-blowers emerge and Congress tells CIA staffers to lawyer up, a grieving father demands to know how and why his son died and why no one in the administration wants to talk to him.

As long as we're on the subject of finding the terrorists responsible for killing U.S. citizens on American soil, the father of a former Navy SEAL killed in Benghazi last September was on Capitol Hill Wednesday to urge support of a special committee to investigate the attacks.

As we search for answers on Boston, we still have no real answers on Benghazi seven months after the terrorist attack on our diplomatic mission there.

Charles Woods and several members of Congress held a press conference in an effort to highlight what they say is the Obama administration's failure to fully disclose the circumstances that led to the deaths of four Americans, including Ty Woods and U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

The elder Woods said he is still waiting for real answers from the White House and the State Department.

"We don't just want another paper report," Woods said. "We want people who were on the ground" to testify and explain "why they failed to provide support and protection" to Tyrone and others. "This is extraordinary and we need to know ... who was it that gave the order to stand down," Woods said.


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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on April 19, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
Considering the Novelty President's Administration has done nothing but lie to the American people, it does not take a vivid imagination to figure this all out.

This is just one more reason to impeach this president, and to permanently scar the former Sec of State from seeking further positions within the USA, namely the position of president.

Hillary Clinton has tied her career to a total incompetent, and this should always be remembered.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 23, 2013, 12:29:02 PM
Boehner Defends Decision Denying Select Committee on Benghazi

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House Speaker John Boehner Monday defended the way he has handled the investigation into last year's attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, insisting a select committee is not needed to probe the incident.

 The Ohio Republican told the media that he has resisted lawmakers’ calls for a select committee because he doesn't think one is necessary.

 “The five committees that have jurisdiction over this matter are working closely together,” said Boehner. “They're getting the job done.”

 As of Monday, The Hill reports, 117 of Boehner's fellow lawmakers have signed onto a resolution from Republican Rep. Frank Wolf of Virginia, seeking a select committee. However, Boehner, defending his handling into the Benghazi incident, said it would be a waste of time and money, a claim backed by leaders of the Oversight, Foreign Affairs, Armed Services, Intelligence, and Judiciary committees.

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 However, conservative groups say the standing committees' investigations are not focused, and claim a select committee would have more power to get information from the White House and State department.

 Boehner said the committees have reached out to witnesses in the attack, which killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, and there is a lot more information to be gathered.

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/boehner-benghazi-select-committee/2013/04/22/id/500762?promo_code=12E0B-1&utm_source=12E0BFreedoms_light_house&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 24, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

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Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Tuesday unveiled a report on last's year attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that blames then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for lapses in security.

The 46-page report by the five committees of jurisdiction concludes that reductions in security levels prior to the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were approved at the highest levels of the State Department, including by Clinton herself.

The report also concludes that talking points from the intelligence community were altered to protect the State Department from criticism of inadequate security levels.

After the attacks, the Administration perpetuated a deliberately misleading and incomplete narrative that the violence grew out of a demonstration caused by a YouTube video. The Administration consciously decided not to discuss extremist involvement or previous attacks against Western interests in Benghazi.

The U.S. government immediately had information that the attacks were conducted by al-Qa’ida-affiliated terrorists, yet Administration officials downplayed those connections, and focused on the idea that provocation for violence resulted from a YouTube video.

Contrary to Administration rhetoric, the talking points were not edited to protect classified information. Concern for classified information is never mentioned in email traffic among senior Administration officials.

Repeated requests for additional security were denied at the highest levels of the State Department.

The report suggests that the President, as Commander-in-Chief, failed to proactively anticipate the significance of September 11 and provide the Department of Defense with the authority to launch offensive operations beyond self-defense.

http://nation.foxnews.com/benghazi-attacks/2013/04/23/benghazi-bombshell-drops-obama-hillary


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 25, 2013, 02:10:29 PM
Benghazi investigators demand cable signed by Clinton; White House balks

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Wednesday after House committee chairmen asked President Obama to release a State Department cable that they said would prove Hillary Rodham Clinton, as secretary off state, signed off on security cuts at the diplomatic post in Benghazi ahead of the attack Sept. 11.

According to the committee chairmen, the April 2012 Clinton cable denies the U.S. Embassy in Libya’s request for more security. Five months later, the outpost in Benghazi was attacked and four Americans were killed, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

“An April 19, 2012, cable bearing Secretary Clinton’s signature acknowledged requests for additional security, but nevertheless ordered the withdrawal of security assets to proceed as planned,” the chairmen of five House committees wrote in a letter to Mr. Obama.

“Given the gravity of this issue, we request that you immediately make the April 19, 2012, State Department cable public.”

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Mrs. Clinton’s signature on the cable was standard for all diplomatic cables and was a practice continued from prior administrations.

He accused the Republicans of trying to “stoke a false controversy.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/24/white-house-clintons-signature-benghazi-cable-stan/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 25, 2013, 06:01:24 PM
White House: Clinton?s 'Signature' on Benghazi Docs Doesn't Mean She Knew of Them

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(CNSNews.com) ? The White House dismissed the signature of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on documents ignoring security concerns in Benghazi, calling it ?protocol? for government official ?signatures? to appear on documents they did not sign.


?It is standard protocol that cables originating from the department in Washington go out under the authority of the current Secretary of State with their signature, i.e. their name, typed at the bottom,? White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday, using his fingers for quote marks when he said ?signature.? He continued. ?This practice has been in place throughout this administration and across prior administrations, both Democratic and Republican.?

A report by five House committees released Tuesday found that Senior State Department officials, including Clinton, approved reductions in security at the facilities in Benghazi, Libya. The report cites an April 19, 2012, cable bearing Clinton's signature acknowledging a March 28, 2012, request from then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz for more security, yet allowing further reductions.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/white-house-clinton-s-signature-benghazi-docs-doesnt-mean-she-knew-them


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 27, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
When What Happens in Benghazi Travels to Boston

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It’s clear from a reading of the interim report on Benghazi- and consultation with sources in the Intelligence Community (IC)- that policy and politics-- not intelligence failures-- led to the deaths of four Americans when Al Qaeda attacked the consulate in that Libyan city on September 11, 2012.

 But we knew that already, didn’t we?

 What we don’t know, still, is who in the administration is responsible for the alteration of key talking points generated by the IC in wake of the attack and who else knew about the alterations. 

 The report authors, who work for congress, have detailed information about the editors of the talking points, apparently. I’m guessing that they know very well who ordered them.

 Why haven’t they named names?

 Why have Republicans teamed up with the administration to conceal the fact that top Obama officials altered national security documents in a way that could be criminal.

 “It is clear that the State Department expressed concerns — and was backed by the White House — that the information be removed to avoid criticism for ignoring the general threat environment in Benghazi,” the Washington Times quotes the report in saying.

 And so he information was removed.

 Here’s what you may not know: Talking points generated by security agencies for events like the Benghazi assault are official documents. The alteration of the talking points in order to protect senior members of the State Department and/or the White House is a felony that calls for up to 12 years in prison, a $25,000 fine and immediate dismissal from the service of the United States government --including elected officials-- with a lifetime ban from further federal employment.

 The authors also reveal that Hillary Clinton denied requests directly for additional security, which is in contradiction to her testimony to congress that she never saw a request for extra security from Benghazi.

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2013/04/27/when-what-happens-in-benghazi-travels-to-boston-n1580277/page/full/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 29, 2013, 01:25:31 PM
Benghazi Report Revives Troubling Questions

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The interim report sets out copious evidence of the rash of security threats in Libya during 2012. There were more than 200 "security incidents" between June 2011 and July 2012 in Libya, 50 of them in Benghazi, it reports.

Britain and international agencies withdrew personnel from Benghazi. The United States reduced security forces despite a plea for increases from then-Ambassador Gene Cretz in March 2012.

"In a cable signed by Secretary Clinton in April 2012," the Interim Report reads, "the State Department settled on a plan to scale back security assets in the U.S. Mission in Libya, including Benghazi."

Later requests from Stevens after he replaced Cretz in May were also denied.

That contradicts Clinton's testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee in January 2013. She said the cable traffic never made its way to her.

If so, why was her name appended to a response? Maybe there's an explanation in the internal processes of the State Department. And, it should be said, high officials often make decisions that with hindsight seem obvious mistakes. But she has given us just an exclamation, not an explanation.

And, as the Interim Report goes on to explain, the accounts given by the Obama administration at the time were misleading -- deliberately so.

It noted that State immediately reported the attack to the White House Situation Room and two hours later noted an al-Qaida affiliate's claim of responsibility. There was no mention of a spontaneous protest of an anti-Muslim video.

Yet Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and press secretary Jay Carney spoke repeatedly for days later of a video and a protest. Clinton assured one victim's family member that the video-maker was being prosecuted.

In the meantime, a CIA draft of talking points for the House intelligence committee was edited at the behest of State Department officials. Omitted were references to previous Benghazi attacks, the al-Qaida affiliate in Benghazi and intelligence estimates of threats in Libya. Also struck, the Interim Report says, were "any and all suggestions that the State Department had been previously warned of threats in the region."

These changes were made, the chairmen conclude, not to protect classified information -- reviews of the draft were circulated on unsecure email systems -- and not to protect the investigation by the FBI.

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelbarone/2013/04/29/benghazi-report-revives-troubling-questions-n1580262/page/full/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 29, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
More Evidence Of Deadly Benghazi Screw-Up Found Under Oval Office Rug

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A 46-page “progress report”  (http://www.speaker.gov/report/benghazi-interim-report/?ref=home)released by five Republican House committees of jurisdiction indicates that security cuts at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to the terrorist attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were approved by then-Secretary of State Clinton. This contradicts her January 23, 2013 testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee declaring exactly the opposite. On that occasion she said under oath: “I have made it very clear that the security cables did not come to my attention or above the assistant secretary level where the ARB (Accountability Review Board) placed that responsibility.” Yet a cable bearing her signature dated March 28, 2012, acknowledges a formal request from then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz for additional security assets, but orders the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.

Hillary clearly wanted to put all accountabilities for the ugly Benghazi matter out of public sight and mind. When Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) asked her why she, her State Department and the White House, who immediately knew differently, continued to blame the deadly assault on our consulate upon an obscure anti-Muslim video for weeks afterwards, she angrily pounded the table and retorted: “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference at this point, does it make?”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/04/28/more-evidence-of-deadly-benghazi-screw-up-found-under-oval-office-rug/


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Post by: apples on April 29, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
BENGHAZIGATE: Obama’s Secret Gun-Running Program

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Liberals don’t want honest Americans like you to have guns. Liberals just want to arm foreign rebels in crapshoot attempts to “end global violence.” But liberals feign ignorance when the rebels they arm end up being criminals who kill innocent Americans like the late U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens.

Why did Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans die in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012? We now know that President Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-CIA Director David Petraeus were likely behind a mishandled gun-trafficking program that ended up arming the radical jihadist rebels who stormed the U.S. consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya on that fateful day.

Our CIA is still playing the role of vetting which Syrian rebel groups will obtain arms including machine guns, ammunition, and rocket-propelled grenades. While Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are directly purchasing the weaponry, the Obama administration is aiding the Arab governments in shopping for these arms and transferring them from Libya, to Turkey, and finally into Syria.

Unfortunately the CIA has “vetted” shady intermediaries (including Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood) and shady recipients of thousands of tons worth of military equipment and millions of rounds of ammo. Consequently, weapons have fallen into the wrong hands. In the case of Benghazi, anti-tank weapons appear to have landed in the hands of terrorists.

Now, Clinton is denying even knowing about the program, although the evidence indicates it was largely her idea. Of

http://townhall.com/columnists/katiekieffer/2013/04/29/benghazigate-obamas-secret-gunrunning-program-n1580051/page/full/


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Post by: apples on April 29, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
Rep. Trey Gowdy: ‘Explosive’ Benghazi hearings ‘coming quickly’

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Rep. Trey Gowdy, appearing on Fox News on Saturday afternoon, promised that “explosive” congressional hearings over the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, are “coming quickly.”

“There are more Benghazi hearings coming; I think they’re going to be explosive,” Mr. Gowdy, a South Carolina Republican who is a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told Fox’s Uma Pemmaraju.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

Mr. Gowdy wasn’t able to give out too many details, but he hinted that the public for the first time might hear from witnesses to the terror attack that left four Americans dead.

“I am bound by certain measures of confidentiality, but I would tell you that you are getting very warm,” Mr.  Gowdy said when asked by Ms. Pemmaraju whether witnesses could be coming forward. “[The hearings] are coming sooner rather than later.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/28/rep-trey-gowdy-explosive-benghazi-hearings-coming-/


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2013, 12:09:22 PM
Obama: 'I'm Not Familiar' With Benghazi Whistleblowers Being Threatened

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"I'm not familiar with this notion that anybody has been blocked from testifying," said Obama. "So what I'll do is i will find out what exactly you are referring to."

Fox News has reported that whistleblowers are being blocked:

At least four career officials at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency have retained lawyers or are in the process of doing so, as they prepare to provide sensitive information about the Benghazi attacks to Congress, Fox News has learned.

Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official and Republican counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee, is now representing one of the State Department employees. She told Fox News her client and some of the others, who consider themselves whistle-blowers, have been threatened by unnamed Obama administration officials.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-im-not-familiar-benghazi-whistleblowers-being-threatened_720256.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FNmP72CV1w


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
State: Our Benghazi probe 'should be enough' for Congress

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The State Department on Monday defended its decision not to have lower-level employees testify before Congress about last year's attack in Benghazi, Libya.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is pushing ahead with his investigation of the terrorist assault, and has asked for legal protections for lower-level employees who might be called to testify.

The State Department pushed back on Monday and said the independent probe into the attack "should be enough" for lawmakers.

“We think that we've done an independent investigation, that it's been transparent, thorough, credible, and detailed, and that we've shared those findings with the U.S. Congress,” State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell said. “And that should be enough.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/296773-obama-administration-our-benghazi-investigation-should-be-enough-for-congress#ixzz2RsjvMxEG

So the Administration is asserting that they have a right to investigate themselves when they are being accused of a cover-up.
How mean of the Republicans for suggesting that we should not just take them at their word ... the same word that is being brought into doubt.


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Benghazi survivor: Help was close enough but never sent

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Were they? Kerry Picket snags this clip from a Fox News exclusive last night for Breitbart, but pay close attention to the timing expressed by the Benghazi survivor/witness, and remember the attack didn’t stay constant:



A special operations member who witnessed the attack on the U.S. Mission unfold in Benghazi, Libya on September 11 last year, as well as debriefed those who took part in the response, spoke with Fox News’ Adam Housley on Monday night and revealed information that directly contradicts the administration’s insistence that there was not enough time nor resources to send to Benghazi to help State Department employees, contractors, and intel operatives who were under a terrorist attack. FNC kept their source’s identity hidden, as witnesses to the Benghazi attack have reportedly been intimidated by the administration into silence. The assault left four Americans dead, including U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens.

“I know for a fact that C110 was doing a training exercise not in the region of northern Africa but in Europe and they have the ability to react and respond,” the special ops member told FNC.

The C110 is a 40-man special operations commanders and extremists force. They are capable of rapid response and deployment and are specifically trained for Benghazi attack-like incidents. The night of the attack, according to the special op, they were training 3 & 1/2 hours away in Croatia.

“We have the ability to load out, get on birds, at a minimum stage. C110 had the ability to be there, in my opinion, in 4 to 6 hours from their European theater to react. They would have been there before the second attack,” he said, adding, “And you hear a whole bunch of advisers say, ‘We wouldn’t have sent them there, because the security was an unknown situation.’ If it’s an unknown situation, at a minimum, you send forces there to facilitate the exfill—medical, injuries. We could have sent a C130 to provide medical evacuation for the injured.”

All true — but consider that what we think of as the attack on the Benghazi consulate was actually two separate attacks. The first on the consulate began at 9:30 pm, when the first shots were fired, and was over by 11 pm. Security reinforcements from Tripoli arrived at the fallback annex at 1:45 am, about 4 hours after the first attack began and slightly under 3 hours after it ended. Shortly after, a second attack hits the annex and lasts for a little over an hour, when Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods were killed.

Now, if the C110 group had been called to Benghazi from Europe right at 9:30 pm, they might have arrived in time to fight the second attack on the annex — but only just barely, based on the estimate of this survivor/witness; 4 hours would have been 1:30 am. The security detail from Tripoli, which was much closer, had only just arrived in time for the second firefight, at 1:45. Bear in mind, though, that the Tripoli detachment came on their own rather than waiting for orders from State, which were not forthcoming anyway:

Instead, seven men who were American reinforcements in Tripoli, along with Agent Glenn Doherty, commandeered a jet and flew to Benghazi. Ultimately, Doherty and Tyrone Woods would be killed on the roof of the CIA annex.

The special op member told Fox News, “If it wasn’t for that decision, I think we would be talking completely different about this situation. I think you would be looking at 20 plus hostages captured by AQ or you would be looking at a lot of dead Americans in Benghazi.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/30/benghazi-survivor-help-was-close-enough-but-never-sent/


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2013, 03:16:35 PM
Issa Responds to President’s Comments on Benghazi Whistleblowers

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WASHINGTON – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) made the following statement in response to President Barack Obama’s assertion that he’s “not familiar” with Benghazi whistleblowers being blocked from telling their stories:

“A lawyer for Benghazi whistleblowers has publicly stated that the State Department is blocking her client’s ability to talk freely with counsel.  Over the past two weeks, I have sent four letters requesting that this Administration make information available about how lawyers – who already have security clearances and are representing Benghazi whistleblowers – can be cleared to fully hear their clients’ stories. I have yet to receive any response from the Obama Administration.

“Even if the President really doesn’t know anything about someone wanting to come forward, his position should be that whistleblowers deserve protection and that anyone who has different information about Benghazi is free to come forward to Congress.  The President’s unwillingness to commit himself to protecting whistleblowers only aids those in his Administration who are intimidating them.”

http://oversight.house.gov/release/issa-responds-to-presidents-comments-on-benghazi-whistleblowers/


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
Special ops called for military backup during Libya attack, sources say

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On the night of the Benghazi terror attack, special operations put out multiple calls for all available military and other assets to be moved into position to help -- but the State Department and White House never gave the military permission to cross into Libya, sources told Fox News.

The disconnect was one example of what sources described as a communication breakdown that left those on the ground without outside help.

"When you are on the ground, you depend on each other -- we're gonna get through this situation. But when you look up and then nothing outside of the stratosphere is coming to help you or rescue you, that's a bad feeling," one source said.

Multiple sources spoke to Fox News about what they described as a lack of action in Benghazi on Sept. 11 last year, when four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, were killed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/special-ops-called-for-military-assets-to-move-into-position-during-libya/


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
White House's defense: ‘Benghazi happened a long time ago’

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Pressed during a May 1 “media briefing” on whether the Obama administration had threatened the careers of State Department officials who wanted to offer new facts about the September 2012 attacks in Benghazi, here’s the White House’s defensive response to a reporter’s question (Video):



Benghazi happened a long time ago. – Jay Carney, White House spokesperson

Related: Pentagon denies claims General was fired over Benghazi

Sitting in the front row, Fox News’ Ed Henry referred to Barack Obama’s statement during a Tuesday press conference – only the president’s third for the calendar year – that he (Obama) didn’t know anything about hi

http://www.examiner.com/article/white-house-benghazi-happened-a-long-time-ago


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 01:06:09 PM
Militia Hired by State Dept. Warned It Wouldn’t Protect Stevens’ Movements in Benghazi

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At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours,” said the ARB report.


A Senate Homeland Security Committee report issued on Dec. 30 also included some additional details the ARB report had not. It said: “In early September, a member of the February 17 Brigade told another RSO [State Department regional security officer] in Benghazi that it could no longer support U.S. personnel movements. The RSO also asked specifically if the militia could provide additional support for the Ambassador’s pending visit and was told no.”

A footnote in the Senate committee report attributes this information to an email sent to Charlene Lamb, who was then the deputy assistant secretary of state responsible for diplomatic security. The email was sent Sept. 20, 2012--nine days after the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi. The footnote says: “REDACTED, e-mail message to Charlene Lamb, ‘Ambassador’s protective detail in Benghazi,’ September 20, 2012.”

Back on Oct. 10, 2012, when the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee held an initial hearing on the Benghazi terrorist attack, it took testimony from Lamb and from Eric Nordstrom. Nordstrom had served as the RSO in Tripoli, but left Libya on July 26, 2012, when he was replaced as RSO by Martinec--more than six weeks before the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attack.

Martinec was the RSO in Tripoli, and thus Amb. Stevens' top security adviser, in the weeks leading up to the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi. He was the RSO who received the internal Sept. 9 State Department email stating that the February 17 militia had warned that it would no longer support the movements of U.S. personnel in Benghazi--including the movements of Amb. Stevens. Martinec was also the RSO at the U.S. Embassy in Libya when the Benghazi attack occurred.

But--unlike Nordstrom, who did not get the warning from the February 17 militia and who was not the RSO at the U.S. Embassy in Libya when the Benghazi attack occurred--Martinec did not testify in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/militia-hired-state-dept-warned-it-wouldn-t-protect-stevens-movements-benghazi


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
Allen West Joins Call for Benghazi Select Committee

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Over the past few months, 135 Republican lawmakers, or "a majority of the majority," have said a select committee is needed to further investigate the 9/11 attacks on Benghazi, Libya.

[PHOTOS: Attack on U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya]

Now, that committee has the support of a very vocal former lawmaker, too. Tea partier Allen West, who represented Florida in Congress before he narrowly lost his seat to a Democratic challenger last November, sent a letter Thursday night to Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., who introduced legislation for a select committee. In the letter, shared with Whispers, West writes:

As a former Member of Congress who also served in uniform, I know how important it is that we learn the truth about why military support was never sent to the Americans under fire at the U.S. annex in Benghazi last September.... We owe it to the families of the four victims and the survivors -- some of whom sustained serious injuries and were still at Walter Reed hospital months after the attack -- to fully investigate this terrorist attack and the Obama Administration's questionable response in the days and weeks that followed.

House committees released an "interim progress report" on Benghazi last Wednesday, but a number of Republican lawmakers said the report raised more

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/05/02/allen-west-joins-call-for-benghazi-select-committee


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 03:26:05 PM
As the White House denies Benghazi survivors sought clearance to testify about what they saw, House Republicans schedule a hearing to listen to their stories

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White House Press Secretary insisted that no government employees were being blocked from testifying about the 2012 Benghazi consulate attack
Four survivors have retained lawyers to help prepare their testimony, with at least one attorney saying her client's superiors threatened him
The House Oversight committee will hear their testimony on May 8, forcing the Obama administration's hand
President Obama has professed ignorance of any effort to prevent whistle-blowers from telling Congress about the night terrorists attacked

 By David Martosko

PUBLISHED: 20:20 EST, 1 May 2013  | UPDATED: 01:55 EST, 2 May 2013
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White House Press Secretary Jay Carney denied on Wednesday that the Obama administration was prohibiting any U.S. personnel who survived last year's attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya from testifying before Congress about what they experienced. But a lawyer representing one of those potential whistle-blowers is insisting that the White House is stonewalling congressional requests for their testimony.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee announced earlier in the day that it will convene a hearing on May 8 aimed at 'exposing failure' in the Obama administration to respond o security threats to that diplomatic mission, and to present to the public and to Congress an accurate version of the attack that left U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

'This Administration has offered the American people only a carefully selected and sanitized version of events from before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attacks, committee chairman Darrell Issa, a Republican congressman from California, said in a statement Wednesday. 'Not surprisingly, this version of events casts senior officials in the most favorable light possible

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317956/As-White-House-denies-Benghazi-survivors-sought-clearance-testify-saw-House-Republicans-schedule-hearing-listen-stories.html

They sure have a good lawyer. Victoria was in the Regan admin as deputy attorney general.


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
FBI says no connection between belated photo release and Benghazi media coverage

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White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, deflecting criticism over the Libya terror attack, argued Wednesday that "Benghazi happened a long time ago."

But despite the nearly eight months that have elapsed since then, the FBI is only now producing photos of individuals they'd like to bring in for questioning.

The release of the grainy images comes as the House plans another Benghazi hearing next week. It also comes after Fox News reported that U.S. officials have identified the mastermind of the attack, who according to sources is walking free in Libya.

Coincidence? Yes, according to the FBI.

An FBI spokesman said the bureau had long been moving toward publishing the images, and denied any connection between recent media coverage of Benghazi and the release.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/fbi-says-no-connection-between-belated-photo-release-and-benghazi-media/

Amazing isn't it? the photos of Stevens body being dragged throught the street by a cell phone photo are clearer than these photos the FBI released. So who's patio are they on? The 3rd photo has a white rubbermaid chair in the background, didn't know they had them in Benghazi Libya.


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
State Department's Benghazi review panel under investigation, Fox News confirms


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The State Department's Office of Inspector General is investigating the special internal panel that probed the Benghazi terror attack for the State Department, Fox News has confirmed.

The IG's office is said by well-placed sources to be seeking to determine whether the Accountability Review Board, or ARB -- led by former U.N. Ambassador Thomas Pickering and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen -- failed to interview key witnesses who had asked to provide their accounts of the Benghazi attacks to the panel.

The IG's office notified the department of the "special review" on March 28, according to Doug Welty, the congressional and public affairs officer of the IG's office.

This disclosure marks a significant turn in the ongoing Benghazi case, as it calls into question the reliability of the blue-ribbon panel that then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton convened to review the entire matter. Until the report was concluded, she and all other senior Obama administration officials regularly refused to answer questions about what happened in Benghazi.

Since the ARB report was issued in December -- finding that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels" well below Clinton were to blame for the "inadequat

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/state-department-benghazi-review-panel-under-investigation-fox-news-confirms/


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 11:17:41 AM
Biden, Kerry to officially honor Benghazi victims

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Nearly eight months after terrorists killed J. Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three others at the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Vice President Biden on Friday will officially recognize them and four other diplomats killed in the line of duty.

Biden will be joined by Secretary of State John Kerry and other top administration officials to unveil the addition of the eight names on the Memorial Plaque in the lobby of the State Department.

"Last year was a horror," said Thomas W. Switzer, spokesman for the American Foreign Service Association. "Sadly, this will be the biggest list ever," he said, noting that the dangers to diplomats has reached a new high.

Biden and Kerry's recognition on Foreign Service Day comes as the Sept. 11 Benghazi attack remains embroiled in political controversy over the administration's handling of the crisis and its wish that it would just go away. House Oversight and Government Reform Committ

http://washingtonexaminer.com/biden-kerry-to-officially-honor-benghazi-victims/article/2528725



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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
Victoria Toensing responds…says State Department mischaracterized her statement, did so with intent

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See note Victoria sent me:

Greta, I really do not appreciate a headline saying I was accused of lying.  Here is my response for you to add to your piece:    I said Ventrell was “incompetent or lying’” because he said on 4/30 he knew of no “attorney” requests when he knew very well that Issa had written two letters asking for a process to clear lawyers and DOS had not responded.   He purposefully mischaracterized it as an “attorney” request so he could shoot it down.  I have never said I requested my clearance; I always said the Department had not responded to Issa’s requests and in so doing has thwarted our ability to get clearances.  I have also clarified for reporters who say witnesses are stopped from testifying that my argument is that the witness cannot tell the FULL story because he/she has to stop  when getting to the classified information.  Therefore , the witness is prevented from providing important classified  information to Congress, which violates 18 USC 1505. .  It is not just ”possible” Ventrell was mischaracterizing my

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/05/02/victoria-toensing-responds-says-state-department-mischaracterized-her-statement-did-so-with-intent/


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
The Benghazi Talking Points
ADVANCE ARTICLE from the May 13, 2013 issue.


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Even as the White House strove last week to move beyond questions about the Benghazi attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2012, fresh evidence emerged that senior Obama administration officials knowingly misled the country about what had happened in the days following the assaults. The Weekly Standard has obtained a timeline briefed by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence detailing the heavy substantive revisions made to the CIA?s talking points, just six weeks before the 2012 presidential election, and additional information about why the changes were made and by whom.


Reuters

As intelligence officials pieced together the puzzle of events unfolding in Libya, they concluded even before the assaults had ended that al Qaeda-linked terrorists were involved. Senior administration officials, however, sought to obscure the emerging picture and downplay the significance of attacks that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. The frantic process that produced the changes to the talking points took place over a 24-hour period just one day before Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, made her now-famous appearances on the Sunday television talk shows. The discussions involved senior officials from the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the White House. 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-talking-points_720543.html?page=1


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 12:17:10 PM
Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack

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(CNN) -- Several Yemeni men belonging to al Qaeda took part in the terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi last September, according to several sources who have spoken with CNN.

One senior U.S. law enforcement official told CNN that "three or four members of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula," or AQAP, took part in the attack.

Another source briefed on the Benghazi investigation said Western intelligence services suspect the men may have been sent by the group specifically to carry out the attack. But it's not been ruled out that they were already in the city and participated as the opportunity arose.

The attack on the compound and subsequently on a "safe-house" to which Americans had been evacuated left four U.S. citizens dead, including the ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/02/world/africa/us-libya-benghazi-suspects/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Benghazi Whistle Blower: “… Americans Were Deliberately Left There To Die”

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Two of my SEAL brothers (Doherty and Woods) were in Benghazi, working with the CIA on an intelligence mission to locate shoulder fired surface-to-air missiles that were stolen by Al Qaeda when Libya fell. They heard several shots being fired near the consulate. It was recorded that Ty radioed to inform his superiors and tell them what he was hearing and requested permission to assist at the consulate. However, they were told to “stand down!” An hour later, they called again to report the gunfire and requested to assist and were again told to “stand down!” WHY? And by whom? Only the President can give the order to military units to cross a country’s borders.

On or about midnight, while shooting in various areas was still going on, it was reported that Woods and Doherty called for any U.S. military support they could get because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house/annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound (which was verified by the radio recordings and by the drone that was flying overhead.) The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, it was reported that Doherty was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun killing several terrorists when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. Because they knew that there was a drone overhead, Woods had a laser on the mortar position for targeting. However, the drone was reported to be unarmed.

It was reported that both Woods and Doherty were killing every terrorist that appeared. Ty repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship that was in a neutral area. This is a C-130 aircraft that fires 20mm bullets (about the size of a man’s thumb) and 105 howitzer rounds at laser-illuminated targets. This aircraft is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The aircraft was told to “stand down”! WHY? And by whom? Again, only the President can give the order to military units to cross a country’s borders or not to.

It was learned that the fighting at the CIA annex alone went on for more than four hours; this was

http://www.westernjournalism.com/benghazi-whistle-blower-americans-were-deliberately-left-there-to-die/


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2013, 01:10:45 PM
DOD Had ‘Assets Pre-Positioned’ Off Libya—In Case It Needed to Rescue Hillary Clinton

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(CNSNews.com) - When then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made an unannounced part-of-the-day visit to Tripoli, Libya, on Oct. 18, 2011, the U.S. Defense Department pre-positioned assets off the Libyan coast in case it needed to rescue the secretary of state.

The fact that the assets were pre-positioned for Clinton’s visit was included in the annual report of the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security (BDS).

CNSNews.com asked the Pentagon if it would specify which military assets had been prepositioned off Libya at the time Clinton’s visit. The inquiry was forwarded to U.S. Africa Command, but a spokesman for that command declined to add any details to what had been stated in BDS report.

“One of the most complex security challenges presented to the Secretary’s [Diplomatic Security] Detail was her equally historic and ground-breaking trip to Libya in October, after the fall of the Qaddafi regime,” said the BDS annual report.

“The transitional operating environment in Tripoli was turbulent and unpredictable,” said the report. “DS advance team agents engaged in delicate negotiations with local militia, and quickly coordinated a diverse security team of quick-reaction forces, a tactical operations center, casualty evacuation planners, and DoD assets pre-positioned off the coast of Tripoli.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/dod-had-assets-pre-positioned-libya-case-it-needed-rescue-hillary-clinton


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 11:37:23 AM
BENGHAZI: Names of ‘whistleblower’ witnesses revealed

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Their identities have been a well-guarded secret, known only to their high-powered lawyers and a handful of House lawmakers and staff. But now Fox News has learned the names of the self-described Benghazi “whistleblowers” who are set to testify before a widely anticipated congressional hearing on Wednesday.

Appearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will be three career State Department officials: Gregory N. Hicks, the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya at the time of the Benghazi terrorist attacks; Mark I. Thompson, a former Marine and now the deputy coordinator for Operations in the agency’s Counterterrorism Bureau; and Eric Nordstrom, a diplomatic security officer who was the regional security officer in Libya, the top security officer in the country in the months leading up to the attacks.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. outpost in Benghazi, Libya.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/04/benghazi-names-whistleblower-witnesses-revealed/


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 11:44:27 AM
Benghazi investigations included CIA activities; personnel had secret base in Libyan city

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Raising the stakes in the high-profile clash with congressional Republicans over last year’s terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, a person familiar with the State Department-chartered inquiry said investigators talked last year with CIA personnel who were on the ground during the attack and were briefed about the CIA’s activities at their secret base in the Libyan city.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/2/benghazi-investigations-included-cia-activities/?page=all


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 11:46:16 AM
CBS News' Attkisson Describes Stonewalling From White House on Benghazi

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Where there's smoke, there's fire." That's the message CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson says she gets from the constant evasion, stonewalling and flat-out non-response from the Obama Administration and Sttate Department when she pursues questions about the September 11th attacks on the US consulate in Benghazi.

Attkisson was on "Mornings on the Mall" on WMAL-FM, Washington DC this Thursday morning with me and co-host Brian Wilson.

I asked her what kind of information she gets when the White House refers her questions to the State Department or to the CIA or other agencies then refer her back to the White House in an apparent runaround orchestrated by the Obama White House:
Attkisson: "I get virtually nothing. In fact the White House told me several months ago when I was pursuing a host of unanswered questions that there would be no more answers for me on Benghazi. They flat out said, because I was making regular calls and giving them lists of questions that were outstanding and they just said that was it."

O'Connor: "Lose my number, Sharyl?"

Attkisson: "Yeah. And they'd also say things like 'all those questions have been answered, read the material' and I would say 'well no they haven't, I've looked at the material and these questions haven't been answered,' but they would just keep insisting that they had been."

What questions are Attkisson talking about? She gave us just a few of them:
"Conflicting reports as to why there was no rescue attempt"
"Why the guys were left there"

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/02/CBS-News-Atkisson-Describes-Stonewalling-From-White%20House-on-Benghazi


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
A hope for answers
Benghazi dam may break at last


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On Wednesday, the FBI released photos of three men present at the deadly jihadist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya; the bureau has asked the Libyans’ help in identifying them.

Which nicely highlights the fact that it’s been more than seven months since Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other brave Americans were killed — and yet there’s been no justice, nor even vengeance, in the matter.

Nor much exposure: We know little more today than we did in the immediate aftermath of the fiasco.

Indeed, the State Department’s Inspector General is now investigating the Accountability Review Board that reported on Benghazi in December, Fox News reported yesterday. What Fox called “well-placed sources” say the IG is trying to find out if the State panel failed to interview key witnesses who’d come forward.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/hope_for_answers_ft1ovuhkOSgiPKvKt9faAP


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 11:50:47 AM
May 8th the hearing start. I am not going to hold my breath. Yet I am encouraged by all that has been reported on the past few days. Now that the 8th is the start of the hearings, what will the administration do to keep it off the front page? Attack NK? Attack Syria?  Or will he release a EO taking out some of our gun rights? 


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
Report: Secret timeline shows how the Obama administration doctored intelligence talking-points on Benghazi attack six weeks before the 2012 election

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A top-secret timeline from inside the Obama administration shows how the U.S. government heavily altered talking points about the Benghazi consulate attack that left four Americans dead, despite having clear intelligence reports from Libya indicating that an al Qaeda-linked terror group 'claimed credit' for destroying the diplomatic outpost.

According to a report scheduled for publication May 13 in The Weekly Standard, Deputy CIA Director Mike Morrell cut or changed four of the six paragraphs - removing 148 of the 248 words - in a classified assessment of what happened in Benghazi on September 11, 2012.

The Weekly Standard released its article online Thursday, likely to make it public before a May 8 House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing about the terror attack.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319027/Report-Secret-timeline-shows-Obama-administration-doctored-intelligence-talking-points-Benghazi-attack-weeks-2012-election.html


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
The Complete Benghazi Timeline in Spreadsheet Format

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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/05/the_complete_benghazi_timeline_in_spreadsheet_format.html


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
Three more officials to testify about Benghazi attacks

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According to Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who appeared Sunday on "Face the Nation," Hicks recently testified privately to the House Oversight Committee: "I never reported a demonstration. I reported an attack on the consulate...I thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go. I think everyone in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning."

Hicks was also on the receiving end of calls when Stevens went missing. Later, he was on the phone when an unidentified man called the U.S. Embassy using Stevens' own telephone to say the ambassador was at Benghazi hospital. Still later, Hicks said he was there when Stevens' body was turned over to U.S. personnel under circumstances that still remain mysterious.

Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.

"We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment," one eyewitness told CBS News. "Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed. We answered: 'Send reinforcements!' "

But they were told immediate help wasn't available.

Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.

"Isn't there anything available?" one Embassy official says he asked. "But the answer was 'no.'"

"What about Aviano?" the official pressed, referencing the NATO air base with US assets in northeastern Italy. "No," was the answer.

Two of the four Americans killed that night died hours after the first attack began.

    Official: We knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack "from the get-go"
    Biden, Kerry honor fallen U.S. diplomats
    Full coverage: U.S. Consulate attack in Benghazi

Some have complained the Obama Administration has not explained why there were no military resources available to turbulent North Africa on the Sept. 11 attacks, even at the large Souda Bay U.S. Naval base less than an hour's flight from Libya. The State Department's independent Accountability Review Board said government officials did everything they could, considering the challenges. The Defense Department has since reported implementation of improvements to make military resources more readily available if needed.

Another witness for Wednesday's hearing, Mark Thompson, is a counterterrorism expert. He's likely to address another sore spot surrounding the night of the attacks: the fact that the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource, the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG). According to Rep. Issa, Thompson will testify that he was locked out of the process "even though he was the individual who was supposed to react to these kinds of things."

Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack. National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News the CSG was not needed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57582948/three-more-officials-to-testify-over-benghazi-attacks/?tag=socsh


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
DEVASTATING!… CBS Publishes Benghazi Investigation – Pummels Administration

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CBS released information on the Benghazi 9-11 massacre today that could potentially bring down the Obama Administration.

Buried in their report (down in paragraph eight) CBS reported, “Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned… But they were told immediate help wasn’t available.” But, counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help.
CBS reported:

    Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.

    “We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment,” one eyewitness told CBS News. “Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed. We answered: ‘Send reinforcements!’ ”

    But they were told immediate help wasn’t available.

    Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.

    “Isn’t there anything available?” one Embassy official says he asked. “But the answer was ‘no.’”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/devastating-cbs-publishes-benghazi-investigation-pummels-administration/


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 11:54:16 AM
Clinton sought end-run around counterterrorism bureau on night of Benghazi attack, witness will say




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On the night of Sept. 11, as the Obama administration scrambled to respond to the Benghazi terror attacks, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and a key aide effectively tried to cut the department's own counterterrorism bureau out of the chain of reporting and decision-making, according to a "whistle-blower" witness from that bureau who will soon testify to the charge before Congress, Fox News has learned.

That witness is Mark I. Thompson, a former Marine and now the deputy coordinator for operations in the agency’s counterterrorism bureau. Sources tell Fox News Thompson will level the allegation against Clinton during testimony on Wednesday before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif.

Fox News has also learned that another official from the counterterrorism bureau -- independently of Thompson -- voiced the same complaint about Clinton and Under Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy to trusted national security colleagues back in October.

Extremists linked to Al Qaeda stormed the U.S. Consulate and a nearby annex on Sept. 11, in a heavily armed and well-coordinated eight-hour assault that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three other Americans.

Thompson considers himself a whistle-blower whose account was suppressed by the official investigative panel that Clinton convened to review the episode, the Accountability Review Board (ARB). Thompson's lawyer, Joseph diGenova, a former U.S. attorney, has

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/05/clinton-sought-end-run-around-counterterrorism-bureau-on-night-benghazi-attack/#ixzz2SWpF0z94


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 12:07:25 PM
Benghazi Whistleblower: 'My Jaw Hit the Floor' as WH Blamed YouTube

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Hicks, who did not appear on the show but whose reactions were featured based on transcripts of interviews with Issa's committee, said he was stunned by what UN Ambassador Susan Rice claimed on five different news shows on Sep. 16. When she appeared on Face the Nation, she followed an interview with the President of Libya who claimed he had "no doubt" it was a terror attack. Moments later, Amb. Rice contradicted him and claimed a spontaneous protest was more likely.

Acting Ambassador Hicks watched the Sunday shows and said he found this contradiction shocking. "The net impact of what has transpired is the spokesperson of the most powerful country in the world has basically said that the President of Libya is either a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about," he accused. Hicks added, "My jaw hit the floor as I watched this...I've never been as embarrassed in my life, in my career as on that day."

Hicks believes the stunning failure of diplomacy on the Sunday news shows explains why it took the FBI three weeks to gain access to the Benghazi site. The U.S. had effectively humiliated the Libyan President on national TV. That decision, he believed, probably compromised our ability to investigate and track down those responsible.

According to Hicks, no one from the State Department contacted him about what Amb. Rice would be saying in advance. The next morning he called Beth Jones, Acting Assistant Secretary for Near East Affaris, and asked her why Amb. Rice had made the statements she had. Jones responded, "I don't know."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/05/Acting-Amb-Gregory-Hicks-on-9-16-Benghazi-Talking-Points-My-jaw-hit-the-floor-as-I-watched-this


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Congressional Democrat: WH's Benghazi Talking Points Were Garbage

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Carol had it right last week: Benghazi is back -- much to the chagrin of the White House, I'm sure.  To set the table for Wednesday's hearings, here's what we've learned over the last few days:

(1) Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) was directly involved in the 9/11/12 raid that killed four Americans, including our Ambassador to Libya.  Leaders in Washington knew the Benghazi massacre was a terrorist operation "almost immediately," and officials on the ground suspected as much  "from the get-go."  The administration misleadingly denied and downplayed the terrorist connection for weeks.

(2) A special ops officer with detailed knowledge of the US response to the attacks says Washington could have ordered a rescue/intervention mission to save American lives, but did not, for reasons that remain unclear.

(3) Lawyers for potential whistle-blowers within the government say their clients have been intimidated into silence by the administration.  These attorneys also allege that the government has been uncooperative in granting them security clearances, which they say are necessary to facilitate adequate legal representation.

(4) Nearly eight months after the fact, and as political scrutiny is again ratcheting up, the FBI has finally released photos of several Benghazi suspects.  No arrests have been made in connection to the deadly terrorist attack so far.

(5) Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's signature appeared on a memo denying requests for increased security assets in Benghazi.  Amb. Chris Stevens

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/06/congressional-democrat-whs-benghazi-talking-points-were-garbage-n1587673


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
Benghazi whistle-blower Hicks: Internal review 'let people off the hook'

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Greg Hicks, former deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Libya, told congressional investigators that the State Department internal review of the catastrophe at the mission in Benghazi "let people off the hook," CNN has learned.

The Accountability Review Board "report itself doesn’t really ascribe blame to any individual at all. The public report anyway," Hicks told investigators, according to transcript excerpts obtained by CNN. "It does let people off the hook."

The board's report on the Benghazi attack, in which Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in September, is being reviewed by the State Department's Office of Inspector General.

Rep. Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Sunday on CBS that Hicks will testify Wednesday in a congressional hearing on the deadly attack in Benghazi.

"In our system, people who make decisions have been confirmed by the Senate

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/benghazi-whistle-blower-hicks-internal-review-let-people-off-the-hook/?hpt=hp_inthenews


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 12:23:31 PM
White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails

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(Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
Democrats' Agenda for Benghazi Hearing: Protect Hillary at All Costs

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With Obama safely re-elected, the goal is now to protect Hillary Clinton. Last week, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) called upon Speaker of the House John Boehner not only to retract, but to apologize publicly for, an inter-committee report that suggested Clinton had ignored requests for additional security in Libya.

On MSNBC, a channel that serves as the mouthpiece for the Democratic Party, Rev. Al Sharpton--who also serves as an informal White House adviser--described the Benghazi investigation as the "new vast right-wing conspiracy," a reference to Clinton's claim, as First Lady, that Republicans were merely out to target her husband and that he had not committed any wrongdoing in the Monica Lewinsky affair that led to his impeachment.

Though there are undoubtedly some political motives present, Democrats' claims are largely a projection of their own political agenda in Benghazi, which has remained consistent from the start: to shield the party and its leaders from responsibility for a major terrorist attack on American sovereign territory.

That agenda far exceeds any pursued by Republicans, whose goals, however political, happen to include the national security interests at stake.

On this past weekend's Sunday shows, Democrats showed unusual willingness to criticize the Obama administration over Benghazi, acknowledging that the Benghazi talking points had been false.

Yet that willingness to criticize may be a way of inoculating the party against further revelations to come; it may also be easier because new information about the Benghazi talking points has tended to implicate the White House rather than Clinton herself, even if State Department officials have also been listed among those involved.

Clinton's role in Benghazi is particularly damaging because it risks becoming the signature legacy of her tenure at the State Department. Despite racking up an exhaustive travel record, Clinton had few actual achievements to show for her four years as Secretary of State--a burden as she contemplates her 2016 ambitions.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/06/Democrats-Agenda-for-Benghazi-Hearing-Protect-Hillary-at-All-Costs


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Post by: Stan In FL on May 06, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
John Kerry would love to blow Hillary up over Banghazi. he instantly becomes the 2016 front runner once her career is destroyed.  And I'm sure BHO knew that when he nominated senator Horseface.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 07, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
White House tries to deflect criticism from Benghazi whistle-blowers

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The White House on Monday attempted to deflect new criticism on the administration’s handling of the Benghazi attacks from a firsthand witness and an additional whistle-blower, arguing that an internal State Department review charged with investigating the September attacks was led by an “unimpeachable” team.

When confronted with reports of new complaints by whistle-blowers preparing to testify Wednesday before a House committee looking into the Benghazi attacks, Mr. Carney repeatedly touted the credentials of the two men charged with conducting the State Department's Accountability Review Board and called their investigation “unsparing” and “highly critical.”

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

Retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Adm. Michael Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, led the review, which faulted leadership and management deficiencies in two State Department offices in allowing the U.S. diplomatic post to become vulnerable to the attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

“There was an accountability review board led by two men of unimpeachable expertise and credibility,” Mr. Carney said, “who oversaw a process that was rigorous and unsparing, that was highly critical in some areas and that produced a series of recommendations that have all been acted on by the State Department, as the president insisted be the case.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/white-house-tries-deflect-criticism-benghazi-whist/


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Post by: apples on May 07, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
Benghazi witness: US military response could have ‘scared’ off attackers, prevented mortar strike

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The U.S. military could have prevented one wave of the deadly attack on American personnel in Benghazi if fighter jets had been promptly deployed, a top diplomatic official who was in Benghazi during the Sept. 11 assault told congressional investigators.

The account, contained in a transcript obtained by Fox News, was given by Gregory Hicks during an interview last month with the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Hicks, a whistle-blower who is preparing to testify Wednesday before that committee, was deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya -- after Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed that night, he became the highest-ranking diplomat on the ground.

Hicks, in his interview, argued that after the first wave of attacks on the U.S. consulate, the U.S. military could have prevented additional violence with a quickly scrambled flight -- after the first wave, terrorists would go on to launch a pre-dawn mortar assault on the CIA annex.

"And so, in my personal opinion, a fast-mover flying over Benghazi at some point, you know, as soon as possible might very well have prevented some of the bad things that happened that night," Hicks said, according to the transcript.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/06/benghazi-witness-us-military-response-could-have-scared-off-attackers-prevented/?test=latestnews


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Post by: apples on May 07, 2013, 01:09:44 PM
State Won’t Say Who Told Clinton on 9/11/12 Benghazi was Being Justified ‘As Response to Inflammatory Material Posted on Internet’

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(CNSNews.com) - When asked Monday who told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sept. 11, 2012--while the terrorist attack was still ongoing in Benghazi and before former Navy SEALS Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed there—that the attack was being justified as “a response to inflammatory material posted on Internet,” State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell would not answer.

Greg Hicks, who was the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya on Sept. 11, 2012, and who will testify in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Wednesday, has told investigators for that committee that department personnel on the ground in Libya believed the assault on the Benghazi mission was a terrorist attack from the moment it started.

"I thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go," Hicks reportedly told the committtee. "I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-won-t-say-who-told-clinton-91112-benghazi-was-being-justified-response


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Post by: apples on May 07, 2013, 02:55:23 PM
PRUDEN: Payback time in the hen house as Benghazi hearings start on Wednesday

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ANALYSIS/OPINION:

The noise in the hen house this morning is the flutter and cackle of the chickens from Benghazi, scuttling home to roost. The House committee opening hearings Wednesday on what happened there is likely to serve up chicken surprise.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

The four whistleblowing witnesses scheduled to testify to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee are said to be eager to tell a story far different from the various accounts, all confused and all contradictory, peddled by the Obama administration. Someone at the White House should have remembered that old Washington chestnut, as true now as ever, that “it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up.” Smarter men than even Barack Obama, wiser women than even Hillary Clinton, have paid dearly for lapses of convenient memory. (The crime was bad, too.)

Mark Thompson, the ex-Marine who is now the deputy co-ordinator for operations in the State Department’s counterterrorism bureau, is expected to testify that Mrs. Clinton tried to cut the bureau out of the loop when Ambassador Chris Stevens was pleading for help from Benghazi. The administration was preoccupied in the midst of a presidential re-election campaign and cries for help at a consulate surrounded by radical Islamic killers was not something the White House thought was fit to hear. The war on terror was over.

Mr. Thompson’s lawyer, the pugnacious Joe diGenova, says his client has been subjected to threats and intimidation from his superiors at the State Department, but they all deny that and insist that everything everybody else says are fibs, stretchers and “full growed lies.” That’s what superiors always say (and once in a while they’re right). Mrs

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/7/pruden-payback-time-hen-house-benghazi-hearings-st/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Fourth Benghazi witness gagged by red tape

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Toensing’s client will not be able to testify at public or closed-door hearings because he or she has not been able to prepare classified testimony with the aid of a lawyer, Toensing told The Daily Caller.

Toensing, who previously held top-level security clearances while working as a Deputy Attorney General at the Justice Department’s anti-terrorism unit, has asked government officials to update her past clearances to let her work with her client. But the officials initially refused to provide her with the needed forms, she said.

Officials have now provided a 42-page security clearance form, which Toensing filled out and returned, she told TheDC. But the form is only for a basic security clearance, not a “top secret” clearance, she said.

That’s “not sufficient,” she said.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/08/fourth-benghazi-witness-gagged-by-red-tape/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
Operation Smear Benghazi Whistleblowers

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And one anonymous State Department official told Fox News reporter James Rosen that Hicks and Thompson have "axes to grind."

Gee, who wouldn't have an "axe to grind" if your bosses lied to you, blocked you from saving your co-workers and friends, and lied shamelessly and repeatedly to the American public about the reasons for their deaths?

It's this corrupt and vengeful White House that wields the sharpest axes and biggest grindstones. The casualty count in Obama's war on whistleblowers is double-digit.

ATF insiders who testified before Congress about Obama's Fast and Furious gun-running nightmare faced systemic retaliation and harassment -- both from government supervisors who openly declared witch hunts against them and from liberal media water-carriers.

Maverick journalist Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News faced White House retaliation of her own over her Fast and Furious investigations. Department of Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler "was just yelling at me," and White House spokesman Eric Schultz "literally screamed at me and cussed at me," she told radio talk show host Laura Ingraham in 2011.

Former DOJ attorney J. Christian Adams, who blew the whistle on Attorney General Eric Holder's rule of law-perverting, race-baiting reign, was basely smeared as a "liar" and perjurer by DOJ proxy and Washington Post tool E.J. Dionne -- who ignored Adams' stellar career record at DOJ and unassailable sworn testimony.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/08/operation_smear_benghazi_whistleblowers_118312.html


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
Oversight Committee Announces Witnesses for Wednesday Benghazi Hearing

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WASHINGTON – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa today announced three witnesses who will appear at a full committee hearing, “Benghazi:  Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage,” on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building.
 
 “I applaud these individuals for answering our call to testify in front of the Committee.  They have critical information about what occurred before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attacks that differs on key points from what Administration officials – including those on the Accountability Review Board – have portrayed,” said Issa.  “Our committee has been contacted by numerous other individuals who have direct knowledge of the Benghazi terrorist attack, but are not yet prepared to testify.  In many cases their principal reticence of appearing in public is their concern of retaliation at the hands of their respective employers.  While we may yet add additional witnesses, this panel will certainly answer some questions and leave us with many new ones.”
 
 
Witnesses:
Mr. Mark Thompson
 Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism
 US Department of State
 
Mr. Gregory Hicks
 Foreign Service Officer and former Deputy Chief of Mission/Chargé d’Affairs in Libya
 US Department of State
 
Mr. Eric Nordstrom
 Diplomatic Security Officer and former Regional Security Officer in Libya
 US Department of State
 
 In October 2012, the Oversight Committee held the first hearing on the Benghazi attacks, which exposed denials of security requests and forced the Administration to acknowledge that the attacks were not sparked by a protest of a YouTube video, contrary to claims made by Obama Administration officials.
 
*** NOTE: Press seating will be reserved, but limited. Please arrive early (hearing room will open to press at 10:30 AM) to guarantee a seat. An overflow area will be available. ***
 
Hearing Details:
Wednesday, May 8th, 2013
“Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage”
Full Committee, Chairman Darrell Issa, (R-CA)
 11:30 a.m. in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building and streaming live at oversight.house.gov.

http://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-announces-witnesses-for-wednesday-benghazi-hearing/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 01:00:49 PM
Mother of Benghazi Victim: Obama Administration Still Covering-Up Facts of Tragedy

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On the eve of Wednesday’s Benghazi hearing, the mother of one of the four Americans killed during the Sept. 11, 2012 attack is charging that the Obama administration has engaged in an eight-month cover-up of the facts.

 "They are covering it up because I haven’t heard any answers," Pat Smith told CNN's Jake Tapper on Tuesday.

 The mother of slain State Department Information Officer Sean Smith said she has appealed for answers to senior Obama administration officials, including then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and then Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta.

 "I told every one of them personally nose to nose — just tell me what happened," she explained. "Whisper in my ear if it’s classified, and I won’t tell anybody. But at least it will put things to rest for me. But they won’t do that."

 Smith said she was contacted by a "clerk" a couple of days after the incident, who read her an official timeline of the attack, but refused to provide additional details of her son's death.

 The administration has insisted that Smith is not considered part of her son's immediate family.

 "The only thing that they will tell me is I’m not a member of the immediate family," she said. "And I don’t understand that because I still remember the labor pains, which was quite a while ago."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/benghazi-vitcim-mother-answers/2013/05/07/id/503285


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 01:06:57 PM
State Dept Continues to Hide Identities of Benghazi Survivors from Congress

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As the congressional investigation into the terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, continues to heat up, State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell told reporters on Monday that the administration is allowing survivors of the attack and other Department employees to come forward and tell the truth about what happened.

“We have always encouraged any State Department employee who wants to share their story and tell the truth,” Ventrell said on Monday, according to the Washington Post.

But a letter the State Department’s Acting Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs Thomas Gibbons sent to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on the same day tells a completely different story. Gibbons was responding to a request from Graham for the administration to allow Congress to interview the five Diplomatic Security agents who survived the attack.

 

“The Department appreciates your interest in talking to the five State Department Diplomatic Security agents who survived the attack,” Gibbons wrote. “At the same time, we have serious concerns about their welfare and want to be careful not to interfere with the FBI’s investigation of the attack.”

Gibbons wrote that one of the five agents who survived “is currently recovering at a local military hospital” and “the other four have returned to duty.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/07/State-Dept-says-it-is-not-suppressing-Benghazi-whistleblowers-but-continues-keeping-survivors-secret-from-Congress


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 01:16:01 PM
Cheney on Benghazi: “I cannot understand why they weren’t ready to go”

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This should provide a kick-start to the hearings today in Washington, as the House Oversight Committee takes testimony from three whistleblowers about the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi and its aftermath.  The Daily Mail‘s (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321084/Dick-Cheney-slams-Obama-administrations-Benghazi-performance-failure-leadership---I-understand-werent-ready.html) David Martosko caught up with Dick Cheney at a book party for Donald Rumsfeld, and the former VP (and also Secretary of Defense in the George H. W. Bush administration) didn’t hesitate to question the preparation of his successors.  Noting that the attack took place on the anniversary of 9/11 in an area well-known to be in control of al-Qaeda affiliates and allies, Cheney wondered how the White House could have been so unprepared:

‘They should have been ready before anything ever happened,’ Cheney told MailOnline exclusively during a party in Georgetown celebrating the launch of a new book by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

‘I mean, it’s North Africa – Libya, where they’ve already had major problems,’ Cheney said. ‘You know that al-Qaeda is operating there, and you have some of the other al-Qaeda-affiliated groups there like Ansar al-Sharia and others.’ …

‘When we were there, on our watch, we were always ready on 9/11, on the anniversary,’ he recalled. ‘We always anticipated they were coming for us, especially in that part of the world.’

‘I cannot understand why they weren’t ready to go,’ the former two-term vice president said of the Obama administration.

‘You’ve got units in the Defense Department that are superb. They practice for this contingency. And they didn’t have anybody in the area[.]‘

I’d expect this to cause some outrage as the hearings open.  While most of the pundit class has focused on this as a question of response, Cheney’s actually closer to the mark about it being a question of preparation.  We couldn’t respond properly because we weren’t prepared — and given the nature of the location and the control that radical Islamist terror networks had in the absence of any kind of central-government control, we most certainly should have been prepared.  That’s doubly true considering the date.

Instead, as The Hill  (http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/298395-new-evidence-in-benghazi-probe-puts-the-spotlight-back-on-clinton)reports, the outrage seems mainly to be in service to the defense of Hillary Clinton:

Democrats say the Oversight committee’s investigation — and the focus on Clinton — are politically motivated. A Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday found that Clinton would garner 65 percent of her party’s support if the 2016 presidential primary were held now, far ahead of Vice President Biden’s 13 percent.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/08/cheney-on-benghazi-i-cannot-understand-why-they-werent-ready-to-go/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 01:18:23 PM
Benghazi Whistleblower Breaks Down While Describing His Lost Friends During Testimony

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Eric Nordstrom, the former Libyan regional security officer with the State Department, became emotional during his opening statement to the House committee investigating the deadly attack on an American consulate in Benghazi. His voice broke describing his friends, the deceased American service and diplomatic personnel, who lost their lives in that attack.


RELATED: Sen. Graham Rips Obama, Hillary Ahead Of Benghazi Hearing: Either ‘Political Spin’ Or ‘Detached From Reality’

“I would also like to thank the committee for your continued efforts in investigating all the details and all the decisions relating to the attack on our diplomatic facility — specifically the committee’s labors to uncover what happened prior, during, and after the attack matter,” Nordstrom began.

“It matters to me personal and it matters to my colleagues – to my colleagues at the Department of

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/benghazi-whistleblower-breaks-down-while-describing-his-lost-friends-during-testimony/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
Benghazi witness describes effort to lure more Americans into 'trap,' says knew attack was terrorism

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A key Benghazi whistle-blower testified Wednesday that his team knew the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. compound was terrorism, revealing that it appeared some were trying to lure even more U.S. personnel into a separate "ambush" while the attack was still being carried out.

Greg Hicks, the deputy chief of mission in Libya who became the top U.S. diplomat in the country after Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed, revealed new details as he and other whistle-blowers delivered emotional testimony on Capitol Hill.

He described how, as diplomatic officials were trying to find out what happened to Stevens, they were receiving phone calls from supposed tipsters saying they knew where the ambassador was and urging Americans to come get him.

"We suspected that we were being baited into a trap," Hicks said, adding that he did not want to send anybody into what he suspected was an "ambush."

Getting choked up, Hicks described how the Libyan prime minister later called him to tell him Stevens was in fact dead. "I think it's the saddest phone call I've ever had in my life," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/08/whistle-blowers-testify-on-benghazi-attacks/


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
Dem Congressman At Benghazi Hearing: "Death Is A Part Of Life"

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Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, tells Benghazi witnesses that "death is a part of life."

 CUMMINGS: And, as I listen to your testimony I could not help but think of something that I said very recently -- two years ago now -- in a eulogy for a relative. I said that death is a part of life, so often we have to find a way to make life a part of death. And, I guess the reason why I'm saying that, going back to something Mr. Nordstrom said, he wanted, I guess all of you said this, he wanted to make sure we learn from this.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/08/dem_congressman_at_benghazi_hearing_death_is_a_part_of_life.html


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Post by: apples on May 08, 2013, 04:17:57 PM
LIVE FEED FOR HEARINGS

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/



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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 11:56:51 AM
Blow-by-Blow: How Obama & Hillary Left Americans to Die

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Wednesday on Capitol Hill, three impeccable witnesses offered the clearest evidence to date that the Obama administration’s response to Benghazi before, during and after the terrorist attack that claimed the lives of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, State Department employee Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Glen A. Doherty and Tyrone S. Woods, was a deadly combination of ineptitude, political calculations, and outright lying. Mark Thompson, acting deputy assistant Secretary of State for counterterrorism; Greg Hicks, former deputy chief of mission in Libya; and Eric Nordstrom, former regional security officer in Libya, offered unshakeable testimony, despite efforts by several Democratic lawmakers to protect both the current administration and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, their party’s most viable presidential candidate for 2016. What the witnesses averred reveals a grim web of deceit likely orchestrated by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to cover up the order to ground U.S. rescue teams that could have easily saved our besieged countrymen in Benghazi.

Some of the most compelling and emotional testimony was provided by Hicks, who offered the House Oversight and Government Reform committee a damning blow-by-blow account of the September 11, 2012 attack: In Tripoli at the time, Hicks recounted how he had spoken with Stevens early in the evening, and there was no sign of unusual activity. After relaxing for a while, he got an alert that Benghazi was under attack. When he checked his cell phone he saw two numbers, one of which he didn’t recognize. He called that number first and got Stevens on the phone. “Greg! We’re under attack!” said Stevens, according to Mr. Hicks.
 

Later, when it became clear that Stevens was missing, the first concern was that he had been taken by terrorists. “We began to hear also that the ambassador’s been taken to a hospital,” said Hicks. “We learn that it is in a hospital which is controlled by Ansar al-Shariah, the group that Twitter feeds had identified as leading the attack on the consulate.” As this information was coming in, a “response team” from Tripoli arrived at the Benghazi airport, one that Hicks thought might become involved in a “hostage rescue” operation, even as officials worried they were being “baited into a trap.”

Hicks then spoke of the mortars that landed on the compound shortly after a group of Americans fleeing the consulate arrived at the annex. The first mortar landed among a group of Libyans who had helped bring the Americans to safety. “The next was short,” he said. “The next three landed on the roof.”

Those were the mortars that killed Doherty and Woods.

Hicks was visibly choked up when he recounted learning about Stevens’ death

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/blow-by-blow-how-obama-hillary-left-americans-to-die/


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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 12:03:59 PM
What Did Obama Know, and When Did He Know It?

http://download.premiereradio.net/guest/rushlimb/LimbaughLetterPDF/011_1112TLL_PMSDv3.pdf


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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 12:04:46 PM
White House struggles to respond to new Benghazi revelations

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he White House on Wednesday stood by its story that the Obama administration remained unsure exactly who was responsible for the attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi nearly five days after it occurred even though new revelations show Ansar al-Sharia’s direct involvement.

Gregory Hicks, the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya and a self-described whistleblower, testified before a Congressional committee Wednesday that the body of Ambassador J. Christpher Stevens was missing for hours during the attack after being dragged out of the diplomatic post in Benghazi.

 SEE RELATED: Latest on Benghazi: Whistleblowers give Congress blow-by-blow account of deadly diplomatic attack

He said a Libyan official eventually called him that night to inform him Mr. Stevens had died and that his body was at a hospital run by Ansar al-Sharia. Mr. Hicks said it was the saddest phone call of his life.

Terrorists set fire to the diplomatic post to try to force Mr. Stevens and his staff out of a “safe house” part of the post. It was a petroleum fire, which produces deadly cyanide gas.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/8/white-house-stands-its-benghazi-story-hearing-unfo/#ixzz2SoPRXcEV
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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 12:39:19 PM
Five Key Points from May 8 Benghazi Hearing

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1. Two "stand-down" orders were given while the Benghazi attacks were in progress.

2. The "protest" about a YouTube video was a complete fabrication by the Obama administration.

3. Cheryl Mills, Clinton's lawyer at the State Department, told witnesses not to speak to House investigators.

4. The diplomatic personnel on the ground acted with incredible, unheralded heroism.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260101_655395181153589_1834128732_n.jpg)

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/08/Five-Key-Points-from-Today-s-Benghazi-Hearing-So-Far


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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 02:10:43 PM
House Armed Service chair denied access to Benghazi files

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One question left mainly unaddressed by yesterday’s hearing on Benghazi — and by others, as well — is the lack of preparation by the Obama administration and the US military for the potential for attack in Benghazi.  After all, terrorist attacks had been increasing steadily since the fall of the Qaddafi regime in 2011.  Other Western nations had already withdrawn from Benghazi due to the security risks in the region, specifically from the radical Islamist terror networks able to operate freely in eastern Libya because of the removal of Qaddafi. Our own State Department personnel in Libya repeatedly warned Washington about the threat.

Put all of that together with the approach of the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, and lights should have been flashing red across the board regarding our outpost in Benghazi.  Instead, the White House, State Department, and Pentagon have repeatedly claimed for months that the US had no assets in place to respond quickly to an attack, even though anyone with a calendar could have pointed out the risk.  One might wonder why the Pentagon didn’t connect those dots on its own, and that seems like a good question for the two Congressional committees overseeing the Department of Defense.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/09/house-armed-service-chair-denied-access-to-benghazi-files/


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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Witnesses: Obama administration blocked military protection for Benghazi mission

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Libya told a congressional committee Wednesday that State Department officials had blocked efforts to aid Americans under fire and later tried to conceal al Qaeda's involvement.

Mark Thompson, acting deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism at the State Department, told the politically charged hearing that on the night of the attack he was stopped from mobilizing a foreign emergency support team that was specially equipped and trained to deal with emergencies like the one in Benghazi.

Thompson said White House officials told him directly that the emergency team would not be deployed because "it was not the right time and it was not the team that needed to go right then."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2529223?slideout=1


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Post by: apples on May 09, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
Boehner calls for release of Benghazi emails as pressure grows on administration

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Pressure on the Obama administration to release more information about the Benghazi attack grew Thursday, as House Speaker John Boehner demanded officials turn over emails pertaining to the controversial "talking points" and another top Republican appealed for more whistle-blowers to come forward.

On the heels of a dramatic hearing where three whistle-blowers testified, Fox News has learned that former Vice President Dick Cheney on Thursday, on the Hill for a meeting with House Republicans, also told lawmakers: "I think Hillary (Clinton) should be subpoenaed if necessary."

The comments and developments signal that Republicans will continue to press for answers on the deadly Sept. 11 attack. Despite arguments from Democrats that the hearing was not nearly as shocking as Republicans made it out to be, GOP lawmakers said it raised troubling questions that need to be investigated.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/09/issa-seeks-more-whistle-blowers-after-dramatic-benghazi-hearing/

Will Bohner grow a set when the administration tells him to go pound sand? Or will he cave like he always does?


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Post by: jafo2010 on May 11, 2013, 12:23:30 AM
He is an alcoholic, and I doubt he will EVER have what it takes to stand for long on any issue.

The GOP would be wise to begin using someone else as their leader and spokesperson in Congress.


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 12:53:00 PM
Classified report could link Saudis, 9/11 and Benghazi





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WASHINGTON – Nearly 12 years after 9/11, Americans are still waiting for the U.S. government to release key information about the attack that killed more than 3,000 of their countrymen.

Reps. Frank Wolf, R-Va., and Peter King, R-N.Y., introduced legislation in 2011 to review the original 9/11 Commission findings.

Their bill passed the House Homeland Security Committee and was referred to three additional committees: the House Committees on Energy and Commerce, Space Science and Technology, and Transportation and Infrastructure.

But the measure has yet to be acted upon by the House as a whole.

Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., says that 28 pages of the report contain crucial information about Saudi Arabian involvement in the 9/11 attacks. Those 28 pages remain classified and out of the public view.

“The families of the victims of 9/11 have a right to this information, as do the American people,” Jones said.

Former Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., who co-chaired the 9/11 congressional investigation has also said the material should be declassified.

http://www.examiner.com/article/classified-report-could-link-saudis-9-11-and-benghazi


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
Secret email reveals top official told Libya's U.S. Abmassador that terrorists were behind Benghazi attack - four days BEFORE U.S. Ambassador to UN said it was a spontaneous attack

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Sept. 11: Terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya
Sept. 12: State Dept. Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs tells Libya's President that Ansar al-Sharia was responsible
Sept. 13: CIA writes candid talking points for members of Congress
Sept. 15: White House deputies edit the talking points, removing all references to Islamic terrorism
Sept. 16: UN Ambassador Susan Rice, in five television interviews, blames the attack on a spontaneous mob angered by an anti-Islam YouTube video

 By David Martosko In Washington

PUBLISHED: 12:56 EST, 8 May 2013  | UPDATED: 23:51 EST, 8 May 2013
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A top State Department appointee told Libya's ambassador to the United States one day after the military-style assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that the terror group Ansar al-Shariah was responsible.

But four days later, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations said on television that it was the product of a spontaneous protest.

During a fiery and emotional congressional hearing on the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Rep. Trey Gowdy read aloud from an email dated Sept. 12, 2012 to senior State Department officers, from Elizabeth Jones, the acting Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs.

Describing a conversation she had with then-Libyan ambassador Ali Aujali, Jones wrote in the previously undisclosed email that 'I told him that the group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic terrorists.'

'Let me say that again,' Gowdy emphasized during the hearing: 'She told him.'

Aujali was Libya's ambassador in Washington, D.C. until November 2012. He was later proposed as a candidate to be the country's foreign minister, but he was never sworn in. News reports at the time attributed his failure to win the job to his history of involvement with the regime of the dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321470/Secret-email-reveals-official-told-Libyas-U-S-Abmassador-terrorists-Benghazi-attack--days-BEFORE-U-S-Ambassador-UN-said-spontaneous-attack.html


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
ABC: Benghazi talking points went through 12 revisions, scrubbed of terror reference; Update: Video added

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Following on the heels of blockbuster testimony from three whistleblowers regarding the Benghazi terrorist attack, ABC’s Jonathan Karl did some digging into the evolution of the talking points used afterward to paint the attack as a spontaneous demonstration gone wild.  The White House claims that the talking points reflected the CIA’s assessment of the situation, but Karl reports that ABC has found twelve revisions made by the Obama administration from the CIA original, culminating in the whitewashed version Susan Rice parroted on September 16th:

When it became clear last fall that the CIA’s now discredited Benghazi talking points were flawed, the White House said repeatedly the documents were put together almost entirely by the intelligence community, but White House documents reviewed by Congress suggest a different story.

ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.

White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department.  The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.

That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Ja

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/10/abc-benghazi-talking-points-went-through-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-reference/


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 01:42:37 PM
Top Obama official’s brother is president of CBS News, may drop reporter over Benghazi coverage

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The brother of a top Obama administration official is also the president of CBS News, and the network may be days away from dropping one of its top investigative reporters for covering the administration’s scandals too aggressively.

CBS News executives have reportedly expressed frustration with their own reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, who has steadily covered the Obama administration’s handling of the Benghazi terrorist attack in Libya since late last year.

“Network sources” told Politico Wednesday that CBS executives feel Attkisson’s Benghazi coverage is bordering on advocacy, and Attkisson “can’t get some of her stories on the air.”

Attkisson, who is in talks to leave the network before her contract expires, has been attempting to figure out who changed the Benghazi talking points for more than five months.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/11/top-obama-officials-brother-is-president-of-cbs-news-may-drop-reporter-over-benghazi-coverage/


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 01:47:08 PM
Busted: State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland Deliberately Lied to Reporters About Benghazi Talking Points (Video)

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Today ABC News confirmed that State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland raised specific objections to an original CIA draft on the Benghazi massacre.  Nuland pushed her superiors to completely delete numerous references of extremists linked to al-Qa’ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya. She also persuaded more senior officials to delete information on at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants prior to 9-11. After all, an election was coming up. 

Obama officials agreed with Nuland and decided to lie to the American people and claim that the offensive YouTube video was the reason for the attack.

But during her press conference on September 17, 2012, Victoria Nuland told reporters that what Ambassador Risce said on the Sunday talk shows was “very clear, very precise, about what our initial assessment of what happened.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/busted-state-department-spokeswoman-victoria-nuland-deliberately-lied-to-reporters-about-benghazi-talking-points-video/


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 02:19:48 PM
White House holds 'deep background' Benghazi briefing

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The White House held a "deep background" briefing with reporters on Friday afternoon to discuss recent revelations about the Benghazi investigation, sources familiar with the meeting tell POLITICO.

The meeting was conducted on "deep background," according to White House spokesman Josh Earnest, but sources told POLITICO that the existence of the meeting was "off the record." The meeting began around 12:45 p.m. and postponed the daily, on-the-record White House press briefing until mid-afternoon.

The session was announced to reporters in the wake of an ABC News report showing that White House and State Dept. officials were involved in revising the now-discredited CIA talking points about the attack on Benghazi.

(Also on POLITICO: Grading the media's Benghazi coverage)

Emails obtained by ABC News show that State Dept. spokesperson Victoria Nuland requested that the CIA scrub references to an Al Qaeda-linked group, which, Nuland told White House officials, “could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings."

Correction: An earlier version of this post incorrectly referred to the meeting as "off the record." Though the existence of the meeting was off the record, it was conducted on "deep background."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/05/white-house-holds-offrecord-benghazi-briefing-163704.html


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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
White House Denies Any 'Substantive' Edits To Benghazi Memo

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The White House says it made only minimal changes to the now-discredited talking points used to discuss the deadly attack last year on a U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya.

The remarks, by White House press secretary Jay Carney, came in response to an ABC News exclusive on Friday that detailed changes to a memo used by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to discuss the deadly Sept. 11, 2012, attack in the days after it happened.

Rice's remarks on several Sunday morning talk shows days after the attack, in which she wrongly characterized them as germinating from protests sparked by a YouTube video offensive to Muslims, have long been called out by Republicans and were fodder for the 2012 campaign.

On Friday, ABC reported that it had obtained 12 different versions of the talking points contained in a series of emails "that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/10/182934365/white-house-denies-any-substantive-edits-to-benghazi-memo



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Post by: apples on May 11, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
Morning Bell: Ghosts of Benghazi
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The White House might have wanted to mute its response to the terrorist attack in Benghazi for fear of inflaming Anti-American sentiment. Perhaps the President did not want to acknowledge a successful attack by an al-Qaeda affiliate on the anniversary of 9/11—right before a national election. Maybe it was just all “Keystone Kops” at the national command authority on the night four Americans were killed at their posts. It could be a bit of all three. The problem is, nine months later, we still don’t know for sure.

Dramatic hearings are expected today as Gregory Hicks, a State Department official who was on the ground in Libya during the 9/11 attack when four Americans died, talks to a House panel.

Some of his testimony from pre-hearing interviews with committee staff has already been released to the press. It includes claims that a Special Forces team that could have helped save lives and safeguard evidence and classified materials at the U.S. facility had been ordered to “stand down.” In addition, Hicks contends that from the outset, the ambassador’s team knew that they were under attack and reported that to Washington.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/05/08/morning-bell-ghosts-of-benghazi/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell


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Post by: apples on May 13, 2013, 10:55:21 AM
CURL: Watch out for Petraeus in Benghazi scandal

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Call it “Oval Office Couch Syndrome.”

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

By their second term “inside the bubble,” presidents have completely lost touch with reality: Aides and confidants conspire to keep the chief executive insulated from the real world — the bad news, the worse press coverage. They think it’s their job, and lounging on the Oval Office couches, they nod along with the president’s every musing.

But this presidency has taken OOCS to new heights. Mr. Obama has only a few trusted aides, and occasional leaks from the West Wing show a paranoid president suspicious of nearly everyone around him. Supremely confident, convinced by the fawning minions at his feet that he is untouchable, the president dismisses all controversy as partisan attacks by an overzealous opposition. A pliant press corps of stenographers follows in lockstep.

Not surprisingly, every president in the past 60 years has had a major scandal in Term 2: Dwight Eisenhower had the U-2 “incident”; Richard Nixon had Watergate; Ronald Reagan had Iran-Contra; Bill Clinton had Monica (literally); George W. Bush had Katrina (and let’s not forget

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/12/curl-watch-out-petraeus-benghazi-scandal/?page=all


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Post by: apples on May 13, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
Did Clinton and Obama Believe Their Benghazi Baloney?

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What were Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton thinking? Why did they keep pitching the line that the 9/11/12 Benghazi attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans started as a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim video?

One possible explanation is confusion. There was such an attack on our embassy in Cairo earlier that day that fit that description.

When Hillary Clinton on Sept. 14 talked of a "mob" and "violent attacks" over the caskets of the Americans slain in Benghazi, she could have been referring to the attacks in Cairo. In that case, she would not exactly be lying, as many have charged.

But she would have been misleading people, quite possibly intentionally. We know that she assured one victim's father, Charles Wood, that "we're going to prosecute that person that made the video."

Not entirely successfully, by the way. "I knew she was lying," Woods said after the House committee hearing on Benghazi last week.

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelbarone/2013/05/13/did-clinton-and-obama-believe-their-benghazi-baloney-n1592591?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl


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Post by: apples on May 13, 2013, 12:41:26 PM
Obama calls Benghazi controversy a 'sideshow'

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President Obama delivered a defiant defense Monday of his administration's response to the Benghazi terror attack, calling the revived controversy over the matter a "sideshow."

The president addressed the issue during a press conference alongside British Prime Minister David Cameron, who is visiting Washington. Obama denied any suggestion that there was a cover-up, questioning recent reports that showed a State Department official trying to water down the administration's initial story-line on what happened the night of Sept. 11.

"There's no there there," Obama said.

The president, with his comments, echoed remarks made by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who asked during testimony in January "what difference" did the controversy over the talking points make.

Obama on Monday dismissed the questions as rooted in "political motivations."

Since Clinton's testimony, though, new details have been made public about the administration's early efforts to explain what happened in Benghazi last September. Despite claims that the White House and

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/13/obama-calls-benghazi-controversy-sideshow/


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Post by: apples on May 13, 2013, 01:25:34 PM
The Epicenter Of Benghazi – Denis McDonough, Deputy National Security Advisor in 2012 and White House “Fixer”….

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and we’re not JUST talking about the 12 version “talking points”, but the epicenter of the actual White House response – or, lack thereof.

Perhaps now the media has accepted the fact that the “talking points” were highly manipulated, they will turn their investigative eye onto the origin, and subsequently on to something we outlined earlier:


Back in January  we posted a discussion around a newly released photo from the White House. The picture was taken in the oval office on Sept 11th 2012, the date of the Benghazi attack.

At the time we thought the picture was worth a thousand words.  After research, and with the hindsight of the latest revelations, it appears we were correct. Yet again, it provides more sunlight into the events surrounding the Benghazi, Libya events and who made the critical decisions in those moments of crisis.

At 5pm, according to the White House and media reports, President Obama was set for a prior scheduled meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey.   It was just prior to this meeting that White House National

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/05/13/the-epicenter-of-benghazi-denis-mcdonough-deputy-national-security-advisor-in-2012-and-white-house-fixer/


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Post by: apples on May 14, 2013, 11:36:10 AM
GOP defies Boehner on special Benghazi panel

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House Republican members are defying Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and five committee chairmen by endorsing a measure that would set up a special panel to investigate the deadly attacks in Benghazi, Libya.


A growing number of members on the committees with jurisdiction over the Benghazi matter — Intelligence, Judiciary, Oversight and Government Reform, Armed Services and Foreign Affairs — have signed onto Rep. Frank Wolf’s (R-Va.) resolution.

Boehner and the chairmen of those committees do not support the legislation. Instead, they have worked together to investigate the Obama administration’s handling of the Sept. 11, 2012 assault.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/299485-gop-defies-boehner-on-libya-panel


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Post by: apples on May 16, 2013, 11:00:35 AM
Obama administration's internal Benghazi emails

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The White House has released 100 pages of e-mails and notes on the Obama administration's response to the deadly attack on a US diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, detailing how the government developed talking points to describe the attack.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/05/15/white-house-benghazi-documents/


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Post by: apples on May 16, 2013, 11:02:22 AM
Benghazi Emails Directly Contradict White House Claims

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The White House on Wednesday released 94 pages of emails between top administration and intelligence officials who helped shape the talking points about the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that the CIA would provide to policymakers in both the legislative and executive branches.



The documents, first reported by THE WEEKLY STANDARD in articles here and here, directly contradict claims by White House press secretary Jay Carney and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the revisions of those talking points were driven by the intelligence community and show heavy input from top Obama administration officials, particularly those at the State Department.

The emails provide further detail about the rewriting of the talking points during a 24-hour period from midday September 14 to midday September 15. As THE WEEKLY STANDARD previously reported, a briefing from the Office of the Director of National

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/newly-released-benghazi-emails-directly-contradict-white-house-claims_724603.html


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Post by: apples on May 16, 2013, 11:03:13 AM
White House’s Benghazi email dump shows critical two-day gap, CIA objection

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The Benghazi-related emails released by the White House late May 15 exclude the critical emails between administration officials that were sent during the crucial first two days after the deadly jihadi attack that killed four Americans last September.

The 100 pages of partially redacted emails also conclude with a dismissive message from CIA chief David Petraeus.

“Frankly, I’d just as soon not use this,” Petraeus said about the heavily edited, four-sentence “talking points” that the White House used to downplay Al Qaeda’s role in the Sep. 11 attack on the poorly protected diplomatic compound.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/white-houses-benghazi-email-dump-shows-critical-two-day-gap-cia-objection/


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Post by: apples on May 16, 2013, 03:29:22 PM
Barbara Boxer’s claim that GOP budgets hampered Benghazi security

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The Pinocchio Test


Boxer would have been on firmer ground if she had echoed the broad point made by the Accountability Review Board that both Republicans and Democrats in Congress repeatedly have failed to provide the State Department with the requested resources. Instead she narrowly tailored her critique to the two-year period when Republicans were in control of the House, failing to mention that Democrats have also “cut” the president’s budget request. Thus her remarks lacked significant context.

Indeed, it is almost as if Boxer is living in a time warp, repeating talking points from six months ago that barely acknowledge the fact that extensive investigations have found little evidence of her claim that “there was not enough security because the budget was cut.”

State Department officials repeatedly told Congress that a lack of funds was not an issue. Instead, security was hampered because of bureaucratic issues and management failures. In other words, given the internal failures, no amount of money for the State Department likely would have made a difference in this tragedy.


Three Pinocchios

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-claim-that-gop-budgets-hampered-benghazi-security/2013/05/15/d1e295cc-bdb0-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html?wprss=rss_politics


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Post by: apples on May 18, 2013, 11:37:20 AM
Rep. Issa subpoenas Benghazi auditor Thomas Pickering

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The lawmaker leading the charge to investigate the Benghazi, Libya, terror attack on Friday subpoenaed the co-author of a report that slammed the State Department but didn't interview Hillary Clinton.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) formally demanded that retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering submit to being deposed by the committee next Thursday.

The subpoena comes in the wake of a series of acrimonious public exchanges this week between the two men. Issa didn't issue a subpoena to former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Michael Mullen, who co-authored the Benghazi report with Pickering.

Pickering has said he would testify before Issa's panel about last year's Accountability Review Board (ARB) report on the attack that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens. Pickering and Mullen have refused, however, to subm

link (http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/300491-issa-subpoenas-benghazi-auditor-pickering)

They need to subpoena president Val Jarrett ::)


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Post by: apples on May 18, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
The 10 P.M. Phone Call

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All of that being the case, I am puzzled why so little attention has been paid to the Obama-Clinton phone call at 10 p.m. on the night of September 11.

Even in the conservative press, it has become received wisdom that President Obama was AWOL on the night of September 11, after first being informed by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, in the late afternoon, that the State Department facility in Benghazi was under attack. You hear it again and again: While Americans were under attack, the commander-in-chief checked out, leaving subordinates to deal with the crisis while he got his beauty sleep in preparation for a fundraising campaign trip to Vegas.

That is not true . . . and the truth, as we’ve come to expect with Obama, is almost surely worse. There is good reason to believe that while Americans were still fighting for their lives in Benghazi, while no military efforts were being made to rescue them, and while those desperately trying to rescue them were being told to stand down, the president was busy shaping the “blame the video” narrative to which his administration clung in the aftermath.

We have heard almost nothing about what Obama was doing that night. Back in February, though, CNS News did manage to pry one grudging disclosure out of White House mendacity mogul Jay Carney: “At about 10 p.m., the president called Secretary Clinton to get an update on the situation.”

Obviously, it is not a detail Carney was anxious to share. Indeed, it contradicted an earlier White House account that claimed the president had not spoken with Clinton or other top administration officials that night.

link (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348677/10-pm-phone-call-andrew-c-mccarthy)


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Post by: apples on May 19, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Obama Aide: 'Irrelevant Fact' Where President Was During Benghazi Attacks

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Host Chris Wallace reminds Pfeiffer that Obama didn't really talk with Secretary Clinton, Secretary Panetta, or Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that night. "He was talking to his national security staff," Pfeiffer insists.

Asked about whether the president entered the Situation Room, Pfeiffer says, "I don't remember what room the president was in on that night, and that's a largely irrelevant fact."

link (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-aide-irrelevant-fact-where-president-was-during-benghazi-attacks_724882.html)

\That is the 2nd most important question on Benghazi. The most important question is who gave the order to stand down....twice????


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Post by: apples on May 20, 2013, 11:27:01 AM
Woodward: White House Lied

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The Washington Post's Bob Woodward appeared on "Meet the Press" Sunday to discuss the brewing scandals of the Obama White House. When conversation turned to the controversy over the Benghazi talking points which show the White House and State Department's successful attempts to modify CIA references to terrorism, al Qaeda and pre-warnings of imminent attacks, Woodward doesn't pull any punches: 

video link here (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/19/Woodward-White-House-Lied)


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Post by: apples on May 21, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

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More whistleblowers will emerge shortly in the escalating Benghazi scandal, according to two former U.S. diplomats who spoke with PJ Media Monday afternoon.

These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

According to the diplomats, what these whistleblowers will say will be at least as explosive as what we have already learned about the scandal, including details about what really transpired in Benghazi that are potentially devastating to both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

Hillary Clinton still wanted to proceed because, in part, as one of the diplomats said, she wanted “to overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.”

link (http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2013/05/21/pjm-exclusive-ex-diplomats-report-new-benghazi-whistleblowers-with-info-devastating-to-clinton-and-obama/?print=1)


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Post by: apples on May 21, 2013, 12:41:56 PM
Gov’t Official (and Poet) Put on Leave After Benghazi Finally Breaks His Silence — and He’s Making Some Big Charges Against Hillary and Her Team

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September 2012, Maxwell remained at his post voluntarily so that he could assist the department in responding to the disastrous attacks. Now, after being singled out for the death of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, Maxwell refuses to let it go until his name has been cleared.

“They just wanted me to go away but I wouldn’t just go away,” he said. “I knew Chris [Stevens]. Chris was a friend of mine.”

“He is seeking a restoration of his previous position, a public statement of apology from State, reimbursement for his legal fees, and an extension of his time in service to equal the time he has spent at home on administrative leave,” the Daily Beast reports.

“For any FSO being at work is the essence of everything and being deprived of that and being cast out was devastating,” he said.

Maxwell said that soon after he was removed from his post, a State Department official visited him at his home one night and asked him to sign a letter acknowledging his removal and “forfeiting” his right to enter the State Department building.

He refused. He said that the letter amounted to an admission of guilt.

So who placed him on leave?

“The decision to place Maxwell on administrative leave was made by Clinton’s chief of staff Cheryl Mills, according to three State Department officials with direct knowledge of the events,” the report notes.

link (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/21/govt-official-and-poet-put-on-leave-after-benghazi-finally-breaks-his-silence-and-hes-making-some-big-charges-against-hillary-and-her-team/)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 21, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
Clinton’s role in the Benghazi fiasco and blame-shifting

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Here are some questions Congress might want to ask if they get Clinton back under oath:

    What system did she have in place for alerting her to critical cables?
    Was she aware Libya’s security situation was deteriorating? If so, why did she not pull people out, as did other governments? Why did she not step up security in conjunction with the CIA?
    Did she inform the president that Libya was becoming dangerous?
    Why was Chris Stevens in Benghazi? Did she specifically send him there?
    Did she understand from Gregory Hicks on the night of the attack that it was a terrorist act?
    Where was the president that night? Did Clinton attempt to contact him? Did she inform the national security adviser what she learned from her conversation with Hicks?
    Why did she bring up the anti-Muslim video at the casket ceremony on Sept. 14? Did she tell the father of slain SEAL Tyrone Woods that she’d get the maker of the video?
    When she learned of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice’s comments on Sunday Sept. 16 tying the attack to the video, did she raise concerns with anyone? Did she ever question why the president, his press secretary and the U.N. ambassador were not telling an accurate story to the American people?
    Did she or her department vet the president’s Sept. 25 speech to the United Nations?
    Did she instruct Cheryl Mills to keep Hicks from speaking to a congressional delegation? Did she instruct Mills to relieve Maxwell of his duties?
    Why did she not offer herself and other top State Department officials to the ARB for an interview? Did she select Pickering and former chairman of the joint chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen? Did she give Pickering any direction as to the scope of the ARB report? Did she or her staff edit it before it was released?

There is much we don’t know about what occurred in the State Department. We do need to find out, most especially at a time when we are learning just how rampant is the culture of half-truths, blame-casting and feigned ignorance in this administration. It makes a difference to those who were punished and those who weren’t as well as to the familes and loved ones of the dead Americans.

link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/05/21/clintons-role-in-the-benghazi-fiasco-and-blame-shifting/)


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Post by: apples on May 22, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
FBI ID's Benghazi suspects _ but no arrests yet

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WASHINGTON (AP) ? The U.S. has identified five men who might be responsible for the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, last year, and has enough evidence to justify seizing them by military force as suspected terrorists, officials say. But there isn't enough proof to try them in a U.S. civilian court as the Obama administration prefers.

The men remain at large while the FBI gathers evidence. But the investigation has been slowed by the reduced U.S. intelligence presence in the region since the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks, and by the limited ability to assist by Libya's post-revolutionary law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which are still in their infancy since the overthrow of dictator Col. Moammar Gadhafi.

The decision not to seize the men militarily underscores the White House aim to move away from hunting terrorists as enemy combatants and holding them at the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The preference is toward a process in which most are apprehended and tried by the countries where they are living or arrested by the U.S. with the host country's cooperation and tried in the U.S. criminal justice system. Using military force to detain the men might also harm fledgling relations with Libya and other post-Arab-Spring governments with whom the U.S. is trying to build partnerships to hunt al-Qaida as the organization expands throughout the region.

A senior administration official said the FBI has identified a number of individuals that it believes have information or may have been involved, and is considering options to bring those responsible to justice. But taking action in remote eastern Libya would be difficult. America's relationship with Libya would be weighed as part of those options, the official said, speaking only on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the effort publicly.

The Libyan Embassy did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

link (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-ids-benghazi-suspects-no-arrests-yet-180357480.html)


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Post by: apples on May 22, 2013, 01:03:46 PM
Report: Obama Won't Let Military Capture Benghazi Suspects

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According to the report, the FBI says it has evidence sufficient to support seizing the men as "suspected terrorists." Yet because such an action would have to be carried out by the military, Obama appears unwilling to authorize it.

Therefore, for the time being, the men are free while the FBI seeks enough additional evidence to clear a higher legal hurdle--which means "gathering enough proof to try them in a U.S. civilian court."

According to the AP, that is what "the Obama administration prefers."

link (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/21/Report-Benghazi-Terrorists-Remain-Free-Because-Obama-Won-t-Allow-Military-To-Seize-Them)


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Post by: apples on May 22, 2013, 01:04:41 PM
Benghazi whistle-blower's lawyer demanding probe into media leaks, alleged intimidation

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WASHINGTON –  Attorney Victoria Toensing said Wednesday she will ask the State Department’s inspector general to launch an investigation into claims that employees there leaked personal information on her whistle-blower client to members of the media as an intimidation tactic ahead of a recent hearing on the Benghazi attack.

Toensing’s client, Gregory Hicks, testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on May 8. Hicks is the former deputy chief of mission who was in Benghazi, Libya, at the time of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack that killed four Americans.

Toensing said State Department officials have told reporters that U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who died in the attack, could not reach Hicks on the telephone to tell him about the attack because Hicks didn’t have his phone on him and was too busy relaxing and watching television. It’s an accusation Hicks has strongly refuted.

“It’s a criminal offense to interfere with any federal employee’s right to bring information to Congress,” Toensing told Fox News.

Hicks was one of two so-called whistle-blowers who came forward in recent weeks and months. During the congressional hearings that followed, it was revealed that widespread mismanagement at the State Department added to the confusion and miscommunication the night of the attack and the in the days that followed.

Allegations of government officials leaking personal information or retaliating against whistle-blowers are not new.

link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/22/whistleblower-lawyer-demanding-investigation-into-media-leaks-intimidation/)


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Post by: apples on May 22, 2013, 01:05:50 PM
Sources challenge White House claim of all-hands-on-deck pursuit of Benghazi suspects

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U.S. military sources serving in North Africa are challenging the latest White House claim that the administration is applying "all the resources" at its disposal to bring the Benghazi attackers to justice, charging instead that the Obama administration knows who is responsible but is not acting.

"They have let it slip by because of politics, and now we've taken all the correlation we had and dropped the ball because of risk (aversion) -- and now the security in Libya is more fragile than ever," one U.S. special operator told Fox News. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirms that U.S. forces have tracked the alleged attackers since October but have since lost the trail of some of them, as no one up the chain of command would authorize them to capture or kill the targeted militia members.

Sources who have worked in and around Benghazi since last October spoke out after White House Press Secretary Jay Carney repeatedly said at a briefing more than a week ago that the administration was going after the suspects in the Sept. 11 terror attack. "From the beginning, the president has committed all the resources of this administration, of this government, to finding out who was responsible and to bringing them to justice," Carney said, as he faced a barrage of critical questions from the press on the heels of reports that challenged the administration's Benghazi narrative.

link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/21/sources-challenge-white-house-over-claim-all-hands-on-deck/?test=latestnews)


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Post by: apples on May 22, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Fox News poll: Obama could have done more to help those in Benghazi




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Voters think President Obama could have done more to help the Americans at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya when it was being attacked, according to a Fox News poll.  In addition, a majority says the Obama administration is trying to cover-up what happened there. 

The new poll, released Tuesday, shows 62 percent of voters think Obama could have done more to help those at the consulate in Benghazi on the night of the attack. 

Even Democrats are about equally likely to say the president could have done more (44 percent) as to say he did all he could (43 percent).  Eighty-four percent of Republicans and 60 percent of independents think Obama could have done more. 

Nearly two-thirds of voters who have served in the military think Obama could have done more.

The violent attack on the anniversary of September 11 killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/21/fox-news-poll-obama-could-have-done-more-to-help-those-in-benghazi/#ixzz2U2kaBQaM


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Post by: apples on May 23, 2013, 12:13:15 PM
The Next Benghazi Scandal

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It's been burbling up from the conservative media for nearly six months, starting with Fox News. Last year, the network's reporter Catherine Herridge reported on a ship that had arrived to Turkey from Libya laden with weapons. Ordnance left unsecured after the fall of Gaddafi was being taken to Syria to overthrow another dictator.

This isn't in much dispute. The dispute, and the theory, is that the weapons used to kill Americans in Benghazi were made available by bungling American gun-runners. That's the theory floated by Roger Simon, who talks to two "Benghazi whistleblowers" (multiplying like rabbits now).

    [Chris] Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/05/23/the_next_benghazi_scandal.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 23, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
The mystery night

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Not according to Pfeiffer. He deemed the president’s location, and specifically whether he was in the Situation Room, “a largely irrelevant fact.” If it is so unimportant, why not simply tell us? It’s not as if we haven’t heard largely irrelevant information before. Humor us. Then everyone can judge the value of the fact for himself.

Obama’s actions and nonactions on that terrible night are a blank spot in his presidency. We simply don’t know much about them, and the White House has always been perfectly content to leave it that way.

(PHOTOS: 10 slams on Obama and Benghazi)

We know he was meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey on an unrelated matter at 5 p.m. Washington time, when he learned of the attack. In congressional testimony, Panetta said he had no contact with the president or the White House after that point.

Dempsey said he didn’t hear from the president, either. Although he did stipulate that “his staff was engaged with the national military command center pretty constantly through the period, which is the way it would normally work.” Fine, but one wonders: What is the standard operating procedure when a U.S. ambassador goes missing and is killed?

Next, we know that the president talked to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at 10 p.m., when the assault that killed Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith was over but the mortar attack that killed two former U.S. Navy SEALs at another facility hadn’t yet taken place.

What about the rest of the time? Pfeiffer assures us that the president kept “in constant touch that night with his national security team and kept up to date with the events as they were happening.”

link (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/the-mystery-night-91788.html?hp=r3)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 24, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
Who Outed the CIA Annex in Benghazi?

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How the attackers knew about what was supposed to be a secret CIA facility is important. If the attackers had known for weeks about the facility and had staked out a position to fire the mortar rounds, it suggests the Benghazi attack was planned in advance and not the “flash mob with guns” that Obama administration officials described to reporters in the weeks following the attack.

If the attackers learned the location of the facility that evening, it would suggest the Benghazi assault was more of a target of opportunity and was therefore not planned well in advance of the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.

One U.S. official familiar with the briefing told The Daily Beast that one working theory about the attack on the annex is that the militants that fired the mortars learned of the CIA annex location earlier that evening, when Woods and others rescued U.S. personnel from the diplomatic mission, and then drove a convoy through Benghazi to get to the annex. The convoy carrying the Americans was chased and fired on by attackers along the route back to the annex.

link (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/24/who-outed-the-cia-annex-in-benghazi.html)


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Post by: apples on May 24, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
Benghazi Investigation Deepens: Lawmakers Seek Interviews of 13 Officials Involved

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As the investigation into the Obama administration’s handling of the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi intensifies, lawmakers on Capitol Hill are seeking to conduct transcribed interviews with thirteen top State Department officials in the coming weeks in order to learn more. Those named in the letter include a wide range of current and former State Department personnel, from senior advisers to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to mid-level career officials with responsibility for diplomatic security.
US Capitol Building at night Jan 2006

Among those officials: Jacob Sullivan, then deputy chief of staff and director of policy planning (and currently national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden); Victoria Nuland, then State Department spokesman; Raymond Maxwell, deputy assistant secretary of state for near east affairs; Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management; and Eric Boswell, former assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security.

In a letter dated May 17, 2013, Representative Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, wrote to Secretary of State John Kerry to request formally that Kerry make these current and former State Department employees available. “The State Department employees whose testimony the Committee is seeking are critical fact witnesses who are positioned to shed light on what happened before, during and after the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of four Americans in Benghazi.”

link (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/benghazi-investigation-deepens-lawmakers-seek-interviews-13-officials-involved_728966.html)


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Post by: apples on May 27, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Dems prepare game plan for Benghazi

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Democrats vow they won't be caught flat-footed when the co-author of the State Department's independent audit on Benghazi appears for a closed-door interview with congressional investigators next month.

Retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering has agreed to be deposed by Rep. Darrell Issa's (R-Calif.) Oversight panel on June 3 after being threatened with a subpoena. Democrats say they're wary of a trap, and want to be able to counter what they say is Issa's habit of leaking “cherry-picked” portions of witnesses' testimonies to the press.

“If it's true to form, if it's a closed deposition, his staff [will] cherry pick content and leak it once again to the press that's only too willing to print it,” panel member Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) told The Hill. “It might be grossly inaccurate. In fact, it may be the opposite of what's being asserted. But by the time somebody gets around to reporting that – if they ever do – the damage is done.”

To stop that from happening, Connolly said, “I would hope Pickering and his attorney would refuse to be deposed without Democrats present.”

Republicans on the committee say Democrats will be allowed to sit in on the deposition, just like they have for other formal interviews.

Democrats say that hasn't stopped Issa from leaking a constant drip-drip of damaging allegations about Benghazi over the past few weeks. These include the revelation that the Obama administration ordered a special forces team in Tripoli to stand down before the attack was over.

Republicans have faulted Pickering and his Accountability Review Board for not interviewing then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for last year's report into the terrorist attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. The report instead pointed the finger at lower-level managers for security lapses at the U.S. mission in Benghazi.

link (http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/301967-dems-prepare-game-plan-for-benghazi-)


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Post by: apples on May 28, 2013, 05:33:22 PM

Issa subpoenas State Department for Benghazi documents


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Republican Rep. Darrell Issa issued subpoenas Tuesday for a host of State Department emails and other communications on the Benghazi terror attack, signaling that the Obama administration's recent document dump would not satisfy congressional investigators.

Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, claimed in a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry that the department is still "withholding documents."

He demanded the department release more on the administration's behind-the-scenes discussions, in the days after the attack, on how they would describe the strike. These documents have since become known as the "Benghazi talking points."

"The State Department has not lived up to the administration's broad and unambiguous promises of cooperation with Congress. Therefore, I am left with no alternative but to compel the State Department to produce relevant documents through a subpoena," Issa wrote to Kerry.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/28/issa-subpoenas-state-department-for-benghazi-documents/#ixzz2UcqBWUzj


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Post by: apples on May 30, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
State Dept. May Not Comply with Congressional Subpoena on Benghazi

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Spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters Wednesday that the State Department has not decided if it will comply with a congressional subpoena demanding documents related to the crafting of Benghazi talking points for Susan Rice.

Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) sent a five-page letter on Tuesday explaining why he as chair of the Oversight Committee issued the subpoena and what documents he expects to be delivered by June 7th.

Issa is requiring the release of more emails between top Administration officials regarding Benghazi talking points given to Ambassador Susan Rice before her appearance on Sunday talk shows the weekend after the Benghazi attack. The Congressman claims that the emails previously given to the House committee were "incomplete" and noted these documents were released to the press five days before they were given to Congress.

Asked about the State Department's response to the letter, Psaki praised the "unprecedented degree of cooperation with Congress" on the issue of Benghazi. "But of course, we remain committed, as we have consistently been, to working with Congress," Psaki added. The Spokeswoman said that the Department is "taking stock" and "determining the next appropriate steps."

"You haven't yet decided whether or not the State Department will be providing the documents that are in the subpoena?" a reporter asked Psaki. "That's correct," she responded.

Read the transcript and watch the video below:

link (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/30/State-Dept-May-Not-Comply-With-Congressional-Subpeona)


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Post by: apples on June 01, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Why is the Benghazi military story still classified?

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In a previous post, I wrote that even as the public learns details of what happened in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack on the American facility in Benghazi, the story of what the U.S. military did, and did not, do to aid Americans under attack remains classified. Key details about what manned and unmanned aircraft were in the region, the actions of various emergency response forces, and the deliberations of commanders from the ground up are a U.S. government secret. Pentagon officials have shared some of that information with House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon and a few others, but only in classified briefings.
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Some military experts have suggested the amount of classification is excessive, but the lid remains on. So, why is so much about Benghazi classified? A few days ago I ran a theory past a well-informed Capitol Hill source. The email I sent:

    Theory: The government, including the administration and relevant members of Congress, is keeping the military details of the Benghazi attack/response classified because they don’t want to the world to know how woefully unprepared we were in that troubled part of the world until we’ve had time to fix things. After our security stance is improved, then more details can be released.

    Corollary: Keeping Benghazi information classified is against the instincts of many Republicans, but they believe it is important not because they have any desire to provide cover for the president but because they were particularly appalled to discover just how disastrously ill-prepared the administration was. They also know that things could have been worse last September 11 — Cairo could have blown up, too — and are giving the administration the cover of secrecy (but not unlimited secrecy for an unlimited time) to give them room to fix the situation.

What came back was a two-part answer, part of which shot down my theory, and part of which supported it. First, some of the information that is classified is of a type that is always classified and would be classified whether Benghazi had happened or not. How many U.S. warplanes are in a given place at a given time? How long does it take for an American force to get from Point A to Point B? Where are particular weapons kept? All that is information the U.S. government does not want potential enemies to know. So, it is not as if there are reams of information that are specifically classified because they deal with Benghazi. Rather, such information is in a category that is usually classified.

link (http://washingtonexaminer.com/why-is-the-benghazi-military-story-still-classified/article/2530934)


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Post by: apples on June 03, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
Benghazi Terrorists: ‘Dr. Morsi Sent Us’

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The terrorist attack in Benghazi is far more disturbing than previously thought. Although it has not been reported in the U.S. media, the possibility exists that the Egyptian government may have played an operational role in the attack. YouTube videos of the terrorist strike raise a serious problem that only an Arabic speaker would detect: some of the terrorists are speaking in the Egyptian dialect of the Arabic language.

Indeed, one of the videos shot with a cell phone of one of the attackers emerged around the time four Americans were killed. It shows a mob approaching the American compound under siege, clearly telling the terrorists in the dialect of Upper Egypt: “Mahadesh, mahadesh yermi, Dr. Morsi ba`atna” — which translates to: “Don’t shoot, don’t shoot, Dr. Morsi sent us.”

The words “Mahadesh yermi” for “don’t shoot” are characteristically spoken in Egyptian Arabic, while Libyans from Benghazi would say, “Matermey” for “don’t shoot.”

“Dr. Morsi” refers, of course, to president Mohamed Morsi of Egypt. The name Morsi is Egyptian and does not exist in any other Arabic speaking country.

The Egyptian regime’s connection to Benghazi also helps explain why it denied U.S. the ability to interrogate Abo Ahmed, an Egyptian suspect in the terrorist attack.

According to a Fox News report, Abo Ahmed had contacted Al-Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri in late 2012, asking to establish a base in Libya “to take advantage of the conditions in Libya after the revolution in order to buy weapons and attract foreign fighters.”

Egyptian media demanded an explanation from the Egyptian regime on why Morsi’s name was mentioned by jihadists during the attack. This question went unanswered, and until now there has been no word of this issue in English-language media.

This incident fits a larger context: On the same day that the U.S. compound in Benghazi was attacked, so too was the U.S. Embassy in Cairo under attack, resulting in al-Qaeda flags flying above the embassy in the place of American flags. According to friends living two blocks away from the U.S. embassy, Egyptian security was withdrawn from protecting the embassy a month prior to the attack – a development without precedent.

link (http://frontpagemag.com/2013/cynthia-farahat/benghazi-terrorists-dr-morsi-sent-us/)


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Post by: apples on June 05, 2013, 11:35:22 AM
Al Qaeda weapons expert: U.S. ambassador to Libya killed by lethal injection
Group sought to kidnap Stevens for exchange of imprisoned terrorists




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An al Qaeda terrorist stated in a recent online posting that U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens was killed by lethal injection after plans to kidnap him during the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi went bad.

The veracity of the claim by Abdallah Dhu-al-Bajadin, who was identified by U.S. officials as a weapons expert for al Qaeda, could not be determined. However, U.S. officials have not dismissed the terrorist’s assertion.

An FBI spokeswoman indicated that the bureau is aware of the claim but declined to comment because of the ongoing investigation into the Benghazi attacks.

“While there is a great deal of information in the media and on the Internet about the attack in Benghazi, the FBI is not in a position at this time to comment on anything specific with regard to the investigation,” spokeswoman Kathy Wright said.

A State Department spokesman had no comment.

The FBI is investigating the deaths of Stevens, State Department information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. They were killed in attacks that U.S. officials say were carried out by an al Qaeda-linked group known as Ansar al-Sharia.

A State Department Accountability Review Board report and an interim House Republican report on the attacks gave no cause of death for Stevens, whose body was recovered by Libyans in the early hours of Sept. 12.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/4/al-qaeda-weapons-expert-us-ambassador-libya-killed/#ixzz2VMAGr4Jk
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Post by: apples on June 12, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
Top military leader disputes diplomat on Benghazi

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Wednesday that four members of Army special forces in Tripoli were never told to stand down after last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, disputing a former top diplomat's claim that the unit might have helped Americans under siege.

Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said timing and the need for the unit to help with casualties from Benghazi resulted in orders for the special forces to remain in Tripoli. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, died in two separate attacks several hours apart on the night of Sept. 11.

Gregory Hicks, a former diplomat in Tripoli at the time of the attack, told a House panel last month that the unit was told to stand down.

Dempsey said that was not the case.

"They weren't told to stand down. A 'stand down' means don't do anything," he said. "They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport."

link (http://news.yahoo.com/top-military-leader-disputes-diplomat-benghazi-165549684.html)


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Post by: apples on June 19, 2013, 11:20:08 AM
Benghazi Whistleblower Lawyer Says Joint Chiefs Chairman Lied to Congress

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(CNSNews.com) – An attorney whose firm represents two Benghazi whistleblowers said Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, lied to the Senate when he said there was never a “stand down” order during the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11, 2012.

“What was fascinating is that he explained his lie to them,” Joe DiGenova, an attorney representing one of the whistleblowers, told CNSNews.com.
- See more at: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/benghazi-whistleblower-lawyer-says-joint-chiefs-chairman-lied-congress#sthash.uYQME7OL.dpuf


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Post by: apples on June 21, 2013, 10:50:37 AM

Judicial Watch obtains State Dept. images of Benghazi terror attack




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Judicial Watch has obtained seven photos from the State Department depicting the aftermath of the terrorist attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012.

The images are the first released by the State Department and were obtained through a Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit. 

According to Judicial Watch, the images seem to depict a burned and ransacked building, two burned vehicles and Arabic graffiti with militant Islamist slogans.

One of the messages translates to "Be strong with Allah."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/20/judicial-watch-obtains-first-state-dept-images-benghazi-terror-attack/#ixzz2WrXLhney


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Post by: apples on June 22, 2013, 11:10:23 AM
Trail of Benghazi security lapses leads to State Department senior leadership, records show



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The decision to keep U.S. personnel in Benghazi with substandard security was made at the highest levels of the State Department by officials who have so far escaped blame over the Sept. 11 attack, according to a review of recent congressional testimony and internal State Department memos by Fox News.

Nine months before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, State Department Under Secretary Patrick Kennedy signed off on an internal memo that green-lighted the Benghazi operation.

The December 2011 memo from Jeffrey Feltman -- then-Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs (NEA) -- pledged "to rapidly implement a series of corrective security measures." However, no substantial improvements were made, according to congressional testimony to the House oversight committee from Regional Security Officer Eric Nordstrom.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/22/trail-benghazi-security-lapses-leads-higher-at-state-department-records-show/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2WxSr8nbE


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Post by: apples on June 25, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
Benghazi Creeps Closer To Hillary Clinton



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Scandal: The decision to place U.S. personnel in Benghazi with substandard security was made at the highest levels of the State Department by officials who have so far escaped blame over the Sept. 11 attack.

An indication that the Orwellian-named Accountability Review Board (ARB) investigating the terrorist attack on our diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, was an effort not to assign responsibility for the disaster but to enable those responsible to escape blame is the fact that ARB never bothered to interview the likes of Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy.

ARB co-chair Thomas Pickering told CBS' Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation" in May that he and his colleagues had ample opportunity to question Secretary of State Hillary Clinton herself but concluded that conducting an interview with her was not necessary. "We knew where the responsibility rested," he said.

In defending the ARB's findings on Benghazi, Pickering, who co-authored its report with former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Mike Mullen, had no use for whistle-blowers like Gregory Hicks, the No. 2 official in Libya at the time of the strike that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. Hicks had told the House Government Oversight Committee he believed the ARB report "let people off the hook."

"They've tried to point a finger at people more senior than where we found the decisions were made," Pickering said, citing specifically Clinton and Undersecretary for Management Patrick Kennedy.

His mind was made up, and he didn't want to be confused with the facts such as the testimony of Mark Thompson, deputy coordinator for operations in the State Department's counterterrorism bureau. Thompson told the House committee that Secretary Clinton attempted to cut the bureau off from communications about the attack.

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Post by: apples on June 27, 2013, 01:29:27 PM
Ambassador Stevens reportedly warned of Libya 'security threats' in final diary entry




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In a chilling note shortly before he was killed, U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens complained about "never ending security threats" in Libya, according to excerpts of what was purported to be Stevens' diary.

The excerpts were published Wednesday by SOFREP.COM, which is run by a group of former U.S. Special Ops personnel.

The entries, while not independently verified, track with prior reports about Stevens' diary.

They show Stevens airing concern about security conditions in Benghazi but also remaining hopeful about the conditions in the post-Qaddafi country.

His Sept. 11 entries encapsulated these competing messages.

"It is so nice to be back in Benghazi," he wrote, according to the pages posted online.

But his final entry also warned of "never ending security threats."

SOFREP.COM said a prior entry warned about the power of militias and the "weak state security institutions," creating "dicey conditions." As has been previously reported, Stevens also wrote: "Islamist 'hit list' in Benghazi. Me targeted," according to the website.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/26/stevens-reportedly-warned-libya-security-threats-in-final-diary-entry/?test=latestnews#ixzz2XRGTUbOc


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Post by: apples on July 05, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
Republicans want to talk to Col. George Bristol about Benghazi

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Marine Corps Col. George Bristol was in a key position in the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) chain of command the night of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. As such, he's high on the list of people that some Republican members of Congress want to interview. But they don't know where he is and the Pentagon isn't telling.

Pentagon spokesman Major Robert Firman told CBS News that the Department of Defense "cannot compel retired members to testify before Congress."


"They say he's retired and they can't reach out to him," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told CBS News. "That's hogwash."

Bristol, a martial arts master, was commander of Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara based in Stuttgart, Germany until he retired last March. In an article in Stars and Stripes, Bristol is quoted at his retirement ceremony as telling his troops that "an evil" has descended on Africa, referring to Islamic militant groups. "It is on us to stomp it out."

Members of Congress in both the House and Senate, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., have asked the Pentagon for assistance in locating Bristol so that they can question him about events the night of the terrorist attacks in Benghazi. But those efforts have come up empty.

"The Department of Defense has been entirely forthcoming on all matters related to our response to the attacks in Benghazi from the outset," said Pentagon spokesman Firman. He added that "any congressional committee can call the witnesses it needs" through subpoena, if necessary.

On June 26, the House Armed Services Committee questioned other military members in the AFRICOM chain of command in a closed hearing. The witnesses included Bristol's former superiors: commander of Special Operations Command Africa Rear Adm. Brian Losey and former AFRICOM commander Gen. Carter Ham.

As to why the Defense Department made Ham available but not Bristol, when Ham is also retired from his post, the Pentagon said Ham was not yet officially retired.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592442/republicans-want-to-talk-to-col-george-bristol-about-benghazi/


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Post by: jafo2010 on July 05, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Begs the question as to whether these men were forced out by the corrupt Obama Administration?  I would be screaming my bloody head off, but they probably threatened him with the removal of his pension, if they did not put him six feet down that is.

There are no bounds held by those that are corrupt!


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Post by: apples on July 05, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
Begs the question as to whether these men were forced out by the corrupt Obama Administration?  I would be screaming my bloody head off, but they probably threatened him with the removal of his pension, if they did not put him six feet down that is.

There are no bounds held by those that are corrupt!
Of course they were forced out. 


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Post by: jafo2010 on July 05, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
Can the Republicans move any slower on all of this?  Why Hilary will be elected president by the time this congressional group finishes its investigation.


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Post by: apples on July 05, 2013, 05:04:27 PM
Can the Republicans move any slower on all of this?  Why Hilary will be elected president by the time this congressional group finishes its investigation.
Just frustrating to say the least  isn't it?   >:(


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Post by: apples on July 12, 2013, 12:36:54 PM
Benghazi talking points not shared with Clinton, Nuland says

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Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton played no direct role in shaping the Obama administration’s infamous “talking points” on the Benghazi attacks, the State Department’s former head of communications told lawmakers Thursday.

“At no point,” said former department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, “did I talk about the talking points with Secretary Clinton.”

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

The assertion, made during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing on President Obama’s nomination of Mrs. Nuland to become assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs, appeared to baffle committee Republicans seeking to pin blame on Mrs. Clinton for the administration’s response to the 2012 Benghazi attacks.

While Mrs. Nuland otherwise seemed likely to cruise to confirmation to the key diplomatic post, inquiries into the role she played in shaping the administration’s unwillingness to characterize the attacks as a premeditated act of terrorism were woven throughout Thursday’s hearing.

Several Republican senators, including Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, and potential 2016 presidential hopeful Marco Rubio of Florida, raised questions about a series of emails Mrs. Nuland wrote three days after the attacks in which she claimed her “building leadership” had “issues” with talking points about Benghazi that the administration was drafting.

An initial version of the talking points had made references to al Qaeda and to “at least five other attacks” on foreign interests that had occurred in Benghazi prior to attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. But, following Mrs. Nuland’s input, those references were removed from a final version the White House gave to former U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice for dissemination on several news talk shows.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/11/clinton-aide-victoria-nuland-promotion-faces-senat/#ixzz2Yql2JaJT
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Post by: apples on July 18, 2013, 11:49:47 AM
Congressman: Benghazi Survivors Forced to Sign Non-Disclosure Agreements

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Congressman Frank Wolf, a Republican from Virginia, said today on the House floor that survivors of the Benghazi terror attack have been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements:

"On Tuesday I raised the question of why none of the Benghazi survivors, whether State Department, CIA, or private security contract employees have testified publicly before Congress," said Wolf.

"According to trusted sources that have contacted my office, many if not all of the survivors of the Benghazi attacks along with others at the Department of Defense, the CIA have been asked or directed to sign additional non-disclosure agreements about their involvement in the Benghazi attacks. Some of these new NDAs, as they call them, I have been told were signed as recently as this summer."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/congressman-benghazi-survivors-forced-sign-non-disclosure-agreements_739975.html


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Post by: apples on July 20, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
Congress will hear from Africa special forces commander on Benghazi attack

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House Republicans will hear behind closed doors from a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was responsible for special forces in Africa on the night of last year’s deadly terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, despite what some GOP members are saying was an effort by the Pentagon to hide him.

Defense Department officials have previously told congressional investigators and the news media that Col. George Bristol cannot be compelled to testify because he is retired, but Marine Corps Times this week reported that he remains on active duty until the end of the month.

“There is every reason to expect that a briefing [with Col. Bristol] will take place in the near future,” Claude Chafin, the spokesman for the Republican majority on the House Armed Services Committee, told The Washington Times Friday. “We are working out the details with the Department of Defense.”

He said the briefing would likely be in a classified setting. “Questioning our witnesses in a closed briefing allows members to receive information without worrying about the disclosure of classified material.”

“Col. Bristol will be available to meet with House and Senate members and their staffs very soon,” Air Force Maj. Robert A. Firman, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed to The Times.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/19/congress-will-hear-africa-special-forces-commander/#ixzz2ZavaqT4G
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Post by: apples on July 22, 2013, 07:29:56 PM

Stockman, Special Operations Speaks to Unroll Record-Setting Petition/Scroll Down Capitol Building Steps Demanding Benghazi House Select Committee


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WASHINGTON – Congressman Steve Stockman filed a discharge petition last week to force a vote of the U.S. House on establishing a Select Committee to investigate the Sept. 11, 2012 killings of four Americans at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya by a mob of terrorists.

Stockman will formally announce the discharge petition at a noon Tuesday press conference on the House Ceremonial Stairway.  There, the largest petition ever presented to Congress, containing the signatures of 1,000 Special Operations veterans demanding a House Select Committee to investigate the Benghazi Terrorist Massacre, will be unrolled on the steps.

The dramatic unrolling of the 60-foot long petition/scroll down the House Ceremonial Stairway will be the opening volley in a nationwide campaign urging House members to sign the Discharge Petition forcing House consideration of HR 36 – the bill to establish a Select Committee to fully investigate the Benghazi Massacre.

WHEN:     The event will begin promptly at 12:00 noon on July 23, 2013.

WHERE:     The House Ceremonial Stairway on the House side of the U.S. Capitol Building.

WHO:    Scheduled speakers at this point in time include the following:

Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX)
Former Rep./Lt. Col. Allen West (Ret.)
SOS Co-Founder Colonel Dick Brauer Jr. USAF, (Ret)
SOS Co-Founder Larry Bailey, CAPT (SEAL), USN (Ret.)

HOW:    The Discharge Petition ScrollOut Event will be set-up so as to allow maximum opportunity for news media photo-ops, video, and audio coverage. The 60-foot record-setting scroll/petition will be set up directly in front of the podium before being unrolled all the way down the stairs and across the sidewalk doing the event.

http://stockman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/stockman-special-operations-speaks-to-unroll-record-setting


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on July 23, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
Not even a ten second mention on the evening news.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 23, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Not even a ten second mention on the evening news.
George Zimmerman should change his name to Ben Ghazi, that way msm would ever speak about him.   ::)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 23, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
Aftermath of Benghazi: New details emerge of horrific attack that killed U.S. ambassador as support for Al-Qaeda grows in war-ravaged Libya

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More grim details about the terrorist attack that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans has emerged as Libya admits it is struggling to combat a growing tide of extremism in the country.

Ten months after the deaths at the American diplomatic mission at Benghazi in the north African country, a frightening picture of the attack itself and the desperate security situation in Libya has emerged.

Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans - information management officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods - were killed in a six-hour, commando-style attack on the US Mission in the Libyan city on September 11, for which Al Qaeda in North Africa and Islamist militia Ansar al-Sharia were implicated.

Mr Stevens died from asphyxiation caused by smoke inhalation after a fire raged out of control.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2373113/Aftermath-Benghazi-New-details-emerge-horrific-attack-killed-U-S-ambassador-support-Al-Qaeda-grows-war-ravaged-Libya.html#ixzz2ZtbNVNJD
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on July 23, 2013, 03:57:03 PM
All left by Obama, Clinton and cowardly leaders to die in vain.

Then these cowards fabricated some nonsense story about a movie made characterizing islam unfavorably.

When will the American people awaken to the endless stream of lies from Obama and his Democrat comrades?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 23, 2013, 06:48:40 PM
Lawmaker: Benghazi details provided at pricey conference, but not given to Congress



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Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.) on Tuesday criticized the decision of former Gen. Carter Ham to offer details about last year's Benghazi attack at a public conference, after offering testimony to Congress on Benghazi behind closed doors that has still left Congress with questions.

Wolf, who has pushed for a special committee to investigate the attack in Libya that left four Americans dead, said Congress still has unanswered questions due to the "secretive nature" of the investigation so far. He said that makes Ham's remarks last week — at an event people had to pay $1,200 to attend — even more egregious.

"That is why I was surprised to hear comments made by Gen. Ham at the Aspen Security Forum last week, where he spoke freely — freely — about the U.S. response to the attack," Wolf said on the House floor.

"Does it bother any of my colleagues that Gen. Ham can publicly speak about the military's response at a forum in Aspen, Colorado, where the tickets were $1,200?" he asked. "The American people should not have to pay $1,200. And yet his testimony before Congress was behind closed doors."

CNN's report on Ham's comments said he realized "pretty quickly" that the attack was not the result of a spontaneous demonstration, contrary to the Obama administration's early description of the event. That report also said that while Ham had the authority to order a military jet in response to the attack, Ham said there was "not a clear purpose in doing so" and that it was a "very uncertain situation."

"It was a very uncertain situation, indeed," Wolf said. "Uncertain as to whether

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/312835-lawmaker-benghazi-details-provided-at-pricey-conference-but-not-given-to-congress#ixzz2ZuaLtoyn
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on July 23, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
One more dead from the neck up non leader.  Having people like this with stars on their shoulder will be the undoing of this country.  I am sure Obama has surrounded himself with others just like this cryogenic example.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 25, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
Fox News: David Ubben Is the Benghazi Survivor Recovering at Walter Reed

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On July 24, Fox & Friends named Diplomatic Security Agent David Ubben as the agent recovering at Walter Reed National Military Medical Facility from wounds sustained during the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Ubben was allegedly in the consulate along with the four Americans who died when the attacks took place.

Ubben's name was mentioned frequently in the weeks right after Benghazi but then faded from the news as he and other Benghazi survivors were literally wiped from the records by the Obama administration. In December 2012, Breitbart News reported that Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) claimed "the State Department has seen it unfit for me to know who those people are—or even how many there are" when he attempted to meet with the survivors

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/07/24/Fox-News-Names-David-Ubben-As-Benghazi-Survivor-Recovering-In-Walter-Reed


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 28, 2013, 02:22:45 PM
BREAKING: US Benghazi Hero Waited 20 Hours For Help With a Shredded Leg – While Obama Campaigned in Las Vegas

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US Hero David Ubben Suffered 20 Hours in Benghazi Before Help Arrived – While Obama Campaigned in Las Vegas

Diplomatic security agent David Ubben, like former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, ran into the Special Mission Compound (SMC) to help save US officials under siege in Benghazi. Ubben was struck by a mortar round that killed Woods and Doherty. His leg was shredded. Ubben was forced to wait twenty hours before a plane was sent to pick him up.

While Ubben was waiting for help with a shredded leg Barack Obama was campaigning in Las Vegas.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/breaking-us-benghazi-hero-waited-20-hours-for-help-with-a-shredded-leg-while-obama-campaigned-in-las-vegas/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 30, 2013, 02:00:52 PM
Congress interviewing "dozens" of Benghazi witnesses

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In recent weeks, members of the House and Senate and their staffers have held two classified hearings on the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya; conducted more than 25 hours of formal, transcribed interviews with witnesses; and spoken informally with several dozen additional witnesses, including some who are being called "whistleblowers."

Among those who have recently spoken to Congress is Marine Corps Col. George Bristol who was in the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) chain of command on Sept. 11. Earlier this month, CBS News reported that the Pentagon declined Republican congressional requests to produce Bristol for interviews. At the time, the Pentagon said Bristol had retired and that they "cannot compel retired members to testify before Congress."

    Republicans want to talk to Col. George Bristol about Benghazi
    Former State Dept. official: I never edited Benghazi talking points

However, after that report about Congress' search for Bristol, the Pentagon contacted CBS News to say their original assessment was in error and that Bristol is not retired, after all. Instead, he's on "terminal leave." The Pentagon added: "In response to a request from [South Carolina Republican] Senator [Lindsey] Graham's office earlier this month, Colonel George Bristol (USMC) will be available to meet with House and Senate members and their staffs."

Bristol has since met with Graham and is set to testify Tuesday behind closed doors in front of the House Armed Services Committee.  Congress plans more Benghazi-related public hearings after they return from their August recess.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57596146/congress-interviewing-dozens-of-benghazi-witnesses/

Great behind close doors with Graham. No to encouraging is it?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 31, 2013, 12:05:17 PM
House Republicans Busted in “Benghazi: The Truth Behind the Smokescreen” by Bret Baier!

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Many of you may have missed it on television, so I urge you to watch the report that aired on Friday, June 28th, on the Benghazi scandal. It is compelling, disturbing and to be continued, I hope!

After spending nine hours putting Bret Baeir’s report in writing (I was so riveted I couldn’t resist!), I can say there were explosive details like the promo advertised, the biggest one for me (because I hate the GOP and always want proof they are against us), can be found at the very end of the article (the tease is already in the title).  I looked up all of the names mentioned in the report myself because I like know who is doing what wrong when bad things happen.

What happened in Benghazi was not just a tragedy, but a blatant, negligent and criminal act on the part of our Government, Obama’s government. It is curious to me that most of the so-called “tragedies” Clinton cited at the very  beginning of the report seemed to be under Democratic Presidents who are usually dangerously naïve or just weak in foreign affairs (I am being kind). The attacks on our soil were incremental, leading to 9/11, the worst one yet.

Speaking of Hillary, after seeing her again today, I was reminded of how repulsive Mrs. Clinton is. She is a villain of the highest order.  She is corrupt.  She has blood on her hands, and she should never be allowed to run for President. She should hang her head in shame, and so should every Republican who defends her, including Rinos like Jeb Bush, John McCain and Marco Rubio, who is now officially a member of the GOPe brotherhood. When they cover for her by thwarting any efforts to investigate infiltration at the highest ranks in our government, it leads me to believe they all have something to hide. I continue to push for our leaders and journalists to EXPOSE infiltration in the GOP, as Michele Bachmann seems to be out to lunch quite a bit lately.

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/house-republicans-busted-in-benghazi-the-truth-behind-the-smokescreen-by-bret-baier/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 01, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
Benghazi Hearing: Special Ops Commander Said He Was Traveling, Had ‘Unreliable Communications’

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The former commander of special operations in Northern Africa told a closed-door briefing today that he was largely detached from events the night of the Benghazi attack as he was traveling at the time.

The testimony of Col. George H. Bristol, USMC, Former Commander, Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara, Marine Corps Forces Special  Operations Command Africa, had been eagerly anticipated by members of Congress. Originally, lawmakers had been told by the Defense Department that he had retired — the actual date is Aug. 1, an “administrative error” according to the Pentagon — and that they didn’t have his forwarding contact information. Bristol lives in Woodbridge, Va., between the Pentagon and Quantico.

“His responsibilities in that role were primarily to contribute to counterterrorism efforts through training and assisting military forces of other countries. Colonel Bristol clarified orders given to personnel on the ground responding to the attack. Colonel Bristol also elaborated on his activities as part of the chain of command during and following the attack.  During the attack, Colonel Bristol was traveling in Africa. Unreliable communications prohibited him from participating in the attack response beyond an initial conversation with LTG Gibson and Rear Admiral Losey,” the House Armed Services Committee said in a readout of the hearing.

“Col Bristol confirmed to the committee that, in his role as Joint Special Operations Task Force – Trans Sahara Commander, he gave LTC Gibson initial freedom of action to make decisions in response to the unfolding situation in Benghazi.  Bristol elaborated that Gibson’s orders changed over time, as conditions on the ground evolved. LTC Gibson previously testified to the committee that, contrary to some reports, he was at no point ordered to ‘stand down’ but rather to remain in Tripoli to defend American embassy there in anticipation of possible additional attacks and to assist the survivors as they returned from Benghazi. Colonel Bristol confirmed this account of events.”

Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) also asked the Defense Department if any personnel had been required to sign non-disclosure agreements after the Benghazi attacks.

“The Department has not requested nor required relevant personnel to sign any such agreements since the attacks,” the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs responded.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/07/31/benghazi-hearing-special-ops-commander-said-he-was-traveling-had-unreliable-communications/?print=1


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
Exclusive: Dozens of CIA operatives on the ground during Benghazi attack

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Sources now tell CNN dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.

CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency's Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out.

Read: Analysis: CIA role in Benghazi underreported

Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency's missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency's workings.

The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress.

It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career.

In exclusive communications obtained by CNN, one insider writes, "You don't jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well."

Another says, "You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation."

"Agency employees typically are polygraphed every three to four years. Never more than that," said former CIA operative and CNN analyst Robert Baer.

In other words, the rate of the kind of polygraphs alleged by sources is rare.

"If somebody is being polygraphed every month, or every two months it's called an issue polygraph, and that means that the polygraph division suspects something, or they're looking for something, or they're on a fishing expedition. But it's absolutely not routine at all to be polygraphed monthly, or bi-monthly," said Baer.

CIA spokesman Dean Boyd asserted in a statement that the agency has been open with Congress.

"The CIA has worked closely with its oversight committees to provide them with an extraordinary amount of information related to the attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi," the statement said.

"CIA employees are always free to speak to Congress if they want," the statement continued. "The CIA enabled all officers involved in Benghazi the opportunity to meet with Congress. We are not aware of any CIA employee who has experienced retaliation, including any non-routine security procedures, or who has been prevented from sharing a concern with Congress about the Benghazi incident."

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/01/exclusive-dozens-of-cia-operatives-on-the-ground-during-benghazi-attack/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
House issues subpoenas to get Benghazi documents from State Department

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The subpoenas, meanwhile, draw the Obama administration into the acrimony.

Two of the requests come from House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, California Republican, who has been investigating the 2012 attack on the American diplomatic post in Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Benghazi Attack Under Microscope

One of his subpoenas calls for the State Department to turn over the records it shared with its own internal Accountability Review Board, an internal investigative effort which the GOP argues did not do enough to hold high-ranking officials responsible.

The other subpoena orders the administration to leave 25,000 pages of documents with the oversight committee. Currently, those documents are carted into Congress each day and then carted out at night in order to prevent lawmakers from having physical custody, House investigators said.

“State Department tactics to delay and impede accountability have exhausted the committee’s patience,” Mr. Issa said, warning that further subpoenas could follow.

State Department spokesman Alec Gerlach said department officials worked in good faith with Mr. Issa, and said they have made documents available throughout the committee’s probe.

“For seven months, we’ve offered and provided access to specific documents at his request. I’m scratching my head trying to ascertain what practical value yet another Issa subpoena has in protecting our diplomats,” Mr. Gerlach said.

He said the move to issue subpoenas was “a jarring juxtaposition” with the bipartisan effort in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday to pass a bill boosting embassy security in the wake of problems exposed in Benghazi.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/1/house-subpoenas-benghazi-documents-from-state-dept/#ixzz2apLdqwLD
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
This is the one’: Drudge editor’s CIA source raises key question about Benghazi bombshell

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n May, Drudge editor Joseph Curl tweeted that a CIA source said there was still one more Obama scandalpalooza shoe to drop. “Yes, four shoes. Dead ambassador, tapped phones, IRS probes. Will it be worse? Can it be?!” he asked. After the Fox News/DOJ scandal broke, Curl’s source suggested the White House was still sitting on something explosive that had “top aides terrified.”

Would that be the fifth shoe? The sixth? With all these “phony” scandals, it’s hard to keep track.

On Thursday, CNN revealed that dozens of CIA operatives were on the ground in Benghazi during the Sept. 11 attack and suggested that the government is using intimidation to keep them quiet. On a late-night call, Curl’s CIA source said, “This is the one.”

Curl’s source asks a key question: What were all those agents doing in Libya?

According to CNN:

    Speculation on Capitol Hill has included the possibility the U.S. agencies operating in Benghazi were secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.

How many more shoes does #ImeldaObama have in his closet?

Update:

More from Curl’s CIA source:

http://twitchy.com/2013/08/02/this-is-the-one-drudge-editors-cia-source-raises-key-question-about-benghazi-bombshell/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 12:16:47 PM
BREAKING>>> GOP Rep: Obama WH Is Hiding Benghazi Survivors AND CHANGING THEIR NAMES (Video)

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Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) was on with Greta Van Susteren Thursday to discuss the Obama scandals.

This came after Jake Tapper at CNN broke the news that there were “dozens” of CIA operatives on the ground in Benghazi on 9-11 when the consulate came under attack and the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.

Gowdy told Greta the Obama Administration is hiding the survivors, dispersing them around the country, AND changing their names.

    “Including changing names, creating aliases. Stop and think what things are most calculated to get at the truth? Talk to people with first-hand knowledge. What creates the appearance and perhaps the reality of a cover-up? Not letting us talk with people who have the most amount

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/08/breaking-obama-administration-is-hiding-benghazi-survivors-dispursing-them-around-the-country-and-changing-their-names-video/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked'

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Up to 35 CIA operatives were working in the city during the attack last September on the US consulate that resulted in the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, according to CNN.

The circumstances of the attack are a subject of deep division in the US with some Congressional leaders pressing for a wide-ranging investigation into suspicions that the government has withheld details of its activities in the Libyan city.

The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

Sources said that more Americans were hurt in the assault spearheaded by suspected Islamic radicals than had been previously reported. CIA chiefs were actively working to ensure the real nature of its operations in the city did not get out.

So only the losses suffered by the State Department in the city had been reported to Congress.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 02, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
Will David Ubben Blow Roof Off 'Phony' Benghazi Scandal?



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Scandal: The former commander of special operations in North Africa says he, like our president, was incommunicado during the Benghazi attack. We may soon hear from the hero who survived 20 hours waiting for help.

During the second wave of attacks on Benghazi, diplomatic security agent David Ubben was on the roof of the CIA annex with two former Navy SEALS. Eventually, several rounds of mortar attacks found their mark, killing Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty while shredding Ubben's right leg.

Ubben was stuck on that rooftop for 20 hours before help finally arrived. He can tell us and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "what difference does it make"that help was not sent — at least two American lives. Ubben sustained injuries at Benghazi so severe he's still being treated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

Rep. Darrel Issa's House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has tried to interview Ubben as part of its Benghazi scandal investigation, but the State Department has not allowed the meeting, according to Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah.

"While initially they said they would be helpful, pretty quickly they turned that off," Chaffetz reported. "And I had a meeting scheduled to go visit this ... young man and then I was denied." State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki denies Chaffetz's claim, saying State has been fully cooperative.

Another Republican congressman, Frank Wolf of Virginia, who has gathered a majority of Republicans in the House in support of a select committee to investigate Benghazi, recently sent a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry complaining that the State Department has

Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/080113-666079-congress-seeks-david-ubben-benghazi-testimony.htm#ixzz2apTTWNnN
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Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 04, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
Benghazi – Cutting Through The Smoke … And Understanding Why John McCain Is Covering For The President….

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The recent revelations by CNN’s Jake Tapper about the actual players from the U.S. in the annex, along with their unexpressed intents and purposes, brings a particular clarity to events.

For the sake of intellectual absorption this event outline is essentially going to be comprised of separate articles which we have compiled, along with our own research, over the past 10+ months. It begins with understanding the relationship between Turkish President Erdogan and President Obama against the Syrian uprising.

Many articles have drawn the connection between our activity in Benghazi and the potential for arms shipments to Syrian *rebels* back in 2012.  Indeed, even some Senators have called attention therein.   But the recent outline by Jack Tapper solidifies some of what was only formerly supposition.   So let’s take the new information and cast it back against the prior considerations.

Back in 2012 we highlighted the following:  [...] it is important to remember how close President Obama is to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan is a severe islamist and both Obama and Erdogan are very friendly.

What Clare Lopez outlines in this 2012 report is extremely alarming to consider, given the nature of President Obama and Erdogan’s personal friendship and given the nature of Turkey’s involvement with the Syrian uprising.

(By Clare Lopez) If reporting from the Washington Times is accurate, it looks like the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin was in on the plot to attack the U.S. mission in Benghazi. According to an October 27, 2012 report, Libyan witnesses from the Benghazi neighborhood where the U.S. compound was located told reporters from the Associated Press (AP) that “150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants began sealing off the streets” leading to the facility “around nightfall.”

The Department of State “Background Briefing on Libya,” provided by telephone to reporters on October 9, 2012 states that Ambassador Christopher Stevens held his last meeting of the day on September 11 with the Turkish diplomat from 7:30pm to 8:30pm and then escorted him out to the compound gate to bid farewell. At that point, the briefing states, “Everything is calm at 8:30 p.m. There’s nothing unusual.”

But the AP witnesses said that, “The neighbors all described the militants setting up checkpoints around the compound at about 8 p.m.” The checkpoints were described as being manned by bearded jihadis in pickup trucks mounted with heavy machine guns and bearing the logo of the Al-Qaeda terror franchise, Ansar al-Shariah.

That means that the Turkish Consul General would have had to pass out through the blockade as he departed the American compound and left the area. There is no record that he phoned a warning to his American colleague, the one he’d just had dinner with, Ambassador Stevens. Given the description of the blockade around the American compound and of the jihadis and their trucks that were manning it, it seems unlikely that the he somehow just failed to notice. “[N]o one could get out or in,” according to one neighbor interviewed by the AP.

Except for the Turkish Consul General, it would appear.

Stevens was a sitting duck, a target surrounded by the jihadist attackers who shortly would take his life and that of his Public Affairs Officer, Sean Smith.

Similarly, this raises the question of the Libyan gate guards from the “February 17 Martyrs Brigade,” the jihadi militia subcontracted by the British firm Blue Mountain, which was the prime contractor for the U.S. Benghazi compound security contract.

What did they know and when did they know it? Even if the Americans, inside the buildings behind the compound walls and getting ready to retire for the night, were not aware of what was happening in the streets around them, the Libyans of the Martyrs Brigade surely must have been.

Yet they provided no warning to the Ambassador and his people either, because again, according to the State Department briefing, the American security officers inside were taken by surprise when the first gunshots and explosions rang out around 9:40 pm.

The State Department must have known much of this when it provided the briefing. So must have the Central Intelligence Agency, the Department of Defense, the National Security Council and the White House. More than likely, the State Department knew in

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/08/02/benghazi-cutting-through-the-smoke-and-understanding-why-john-mccain-is-covering-for-the-president/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 06, 2013, 02:06:36 PM
Copy of CIA Director's Letter to Benghazi Survivors

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THE WEEKLY STANDARD has obtained a copy of the letter CIA director John Brennan sent to survivors of the Benghazi terror attack:

(http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/7axco9oeio2ose5b/images/1-7e4568a510.jpg)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/copy-cia-directors-letter-benghazi-survivors_745663.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 06, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue in Benghazi

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Confidential sources close to Conservative Report have confirmed that Valerie Jarrett was the key decision-maker for the administration, the night of the Benghazi terrorist attack on 9/11/2012.

The chronology of the evening of 9/11 are as follows:

At approximately 5 PM Washington time, reports came in through secure-channels that Special Mission Benghazi was under attack. Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey summoned the President,and briefed him on the crisis, face to face.

Subsequent to that brief meeting, President Obama proceeded to the White House to dine in his living quarters.

After supper, Barack Obama had a telephone conference scheduled with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu...  As that meeting drew to a close, Ms. Jarrett, who is also the Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs, went from the living quarters to the White House Situation Room, where the attack in Benghazi was being monitored by Dempsey, Panetta and other top-ranking officials.

Whether she was instructed by the President to go there, or if she went of her own volition, is only known by the President and herself.

A critical question that needed to be answered, and the sole military-order that could have launched offensive-actions, neutralizing the Ansar al Sharia terrorists attacks on the Mission (the purpose of which are detailed here) and its subsequent attacks on the adjacent CIA Annex, was the issuance of “Cross Border Authority”, an order that can only be issued by the Commander in Chief himself.

As was reported earlier by Conservative Report, Cross Border Authority was denied... Two revelations are deeply troubling:

First, it is reported that an Army Special Forces team was present with an AC-130U Spooky (also known as a Spectre Gunship) on the tarmac at the airport in Tripoli, Libya. The Spooky is a technologically sophisticated, tactical aircraft, operated by the U.S. Air Force Special... The AC-130U Spooky is equipped with weapons that sync with laser-designators, like those that Woods, Doherty and Ubben had on that lonely rooftop above the CIA Annex. The laser-designator was used to “paint” the mortar targets during the attack, subsequently claiming the lives of Woods and Doherty, and leaving Ubben without a leg. Had the AC-130U been on station, over the CIA Annex in Benghazi, moments before the mortar rounds were fired, instead of "awaiting further instructions," the entire outcome of the Benghazi fiasco would have been different.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/08/bombshell-report-valerie-jarrett-gave.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on August 06, 2013, 02:09:38 PM

Fox Contributor: John Boehner ‘Purposely Suppressing Anything About Benghazi’


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Former Democratic pollster and Fox News contributor, Pat Caddell, appeared on Fox News Channel over the weekend where he alleged that there is a White House-led cover-up of the details surrounding the Benghazi attacks. Furthermore, he added, that cover-up of information regarding the White House’s response to that attack is being aided by House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH).

“We have John Boehner, who has been purposely suppressing anything about Benghazi because he knew what we found out this week,” Caddell alleged. “And he approved it.”

RELATED: Geraldo: Revelations About CIA In Benghazi ‘Not As Extraordinary’ As ‘It’s Being Made Out’

Caddell alleged that CIA agents were using Libya as a transit point to move weapons from North Africa into Syria without congressional approval. He added that the revelations surrounding the large number of CIA agents on the ground in Libya in 2012 was part of an operation that Boehner supported and approved.

Turning to the details of the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups, Caddell concluded by saying that he can “guarantee” that the details surrounding that scandal go “directly into the White House.”

Watch the clip below via Fox News Channel:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-contributor-john-boehner-purposely-suppressing-anything-about-benghazi/


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Post by: apples on August 10, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Obama: We Have ‘Sealed Indictment’ of Benghazi Terrorists

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(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama said at a White House press conference on Friday afternoon that the administration has a “sealed indictment” of unnamed and unnumbered terrorists involved in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Amb. Chris Stevens, State Department Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and CIA security personnel Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

CNN had reported on Tuesday that the administration had charged “several suspects” in the Benghazi attack and that one of them was Ahmed Abu Khattala, reportedly a leader of the Ansar al Sharia militia.

Ansar al-Sharia publicly took credit for the Benghazi while it was still unfolding.

The fact that the administration is indicting people it believes were involved in the terrorist attack in Benghazi suggests the administration is planning to try the terrorists responsible for the attack in U.S. civilian court as if they were domestic criminals—as opposed to treating them as unlawful enemy combatants who committed an act of war against the United States.

Obama said the administration was "intent on capturing" the perpetrators of the Benghazi terror attack.

At Friday’s press conference, Fox News’s Ed Henry asked Obama: “On Sept. 11, we’ll have the first anniversary of Benghazi, and you said on Sept. 12 ‘make no mistake we’ll bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.’ Eleven months later, where are they, sir?”

“Well,” Obama said, “I also said that we would get Bin Laden, and I didn’t get him in eleven months. So, we have informed, I think, the public that there is a sealed indictment. It’s sealed for a reason. But we are intent on capturing those who carried out this attack. And we are going to stay on it until we get them.”

“Are you close to having suspects in custody?” a reporter followed up.

“I will leave it at that,” said Obama. “But this remains a top priority for us. Anybody who attacks Americans, anybody who kills, tragically, four Americans who were serving us in a very dangerous place, we’re going to do everything we can to get those who carried out those attacks.”
- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-we-have-sealed-indictment-benghazi-terrorists#sthash.l7t6SgzJ.Sy4cIgCj.dpuf


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Post by: apples on August 13, 2013, 01:36:51 PM
Is Muslim Brotherhood working together with Amb. Chris Stevens’ assassin?

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By Cynthia Farahat Published on Fox News on August 12, 2013

Ahmed Moussa, a prominent Egyptian television personality on the Tahrir TV channel as well as a former officer in Egyptian State Security Intelligence (SSI), went public on July 30 with a remarkable piece of information.

Moussa said, addressing U.S. ambassador Anne Patterson (in absentia) on his show:

Ambassador Stevens was killed in Benghazi, and you know who killed him, the U.S. administration knows who killed him, and you know how he was killed and it was a major strike against the U.S. administration, and all of you.

The assassin is now present at Rabia Al-Adawiya [mosque protest] His name is, do you know it or you would like me to inform you? He’s affiliated with Al Qaeda in Libya, his name is Mohsen Al-Azazi, his passport was found in the house of Khairat El-Shater.

That killer is in Rabia Al-Adawiya now, with Safwat Hegazy and Mohammed El-Beltagy, whom you and your administration support and aid. Your administration aids terrorism.

In the course of this statement, Moussa announced three facts:

1. Ambassador Chris Stevens’ assassin in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, is named Mohsen Al-Azazi.

2. Azizi associates with Mohammed El-Beltagy, the general secretary of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) and with Safwat Hegazy, a leading MB cleric.

3. The police found Azizi’s passport in the house of leading MB strategist Khairat El-Shater, presumbably when Shater was arrested on July 5.

If true, this is sensational news, for it directly ties the MB to anti-American terrorism and repudiates the Obama administration policy of trying to work with the MB. It also further confirms that the MB is a terrorist organization.

http://cynthiafarahat.com/2013/08/12/is-muslim-brotherhood-working-together-with-amb-chris-stevens-assassin/


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Post by: apples on August 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Charge: Passport links Muslim Brotherhood to Benghazi

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A very serious charge was confidently made by a very credible Egyptian television host whose work we’ve used in prior reports. During the compelling segment on Tahrir TV, host Ahmed Moussa publicly announced the name of a new figure in the Benghazi attacks. The charge is that the passport of Christopher Stevens’ “assassin” was found in the home of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader Khairat Al-Shater in Cairo. This would provide a direct and tangible link between the attacks in Benghazi and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Ahmed Moussa: Passport implicates Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood

Ahmed Moussa: Passport implicates Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood

In a story posted to the Fox News website, Cynthia Farahat translates the relevant portion of Moussa’s segment, during which the latter calls out U.S. Ambassador to Egypt, Anne Patterson. This is quite explosive:

    Ambassador Stevens was killed in Benghazi, and you know who killed him, the U.S. administration knows who killed him, and you know how he was killed and it was a major strike against the U.S. administration, and all of you.

    The assassin is now present at Rabia Al-Adawiya [mosque protest] His name is, do you know it or you would like me to inform you? He’s affiliated with Al Qaeda in Libya, his name is Mohsen Al-Azazi, his passport was found in the house of Khairat El-Shater.

    That killer is in Rabia Al-Adawiya now, with Safwat Hegazy and Mohammed El-Beltagy, whom you and your administration support and aid. Your administration aids terrorism. {emphasis ours}

If Moussa is correct, this revelation has huge implications. It could mean, as we have been reporting, that an act of war was perpetrated against the U.S. by a nation state – Egypt – led at the time by the Muslim Brotherhood. Khairat Al-Shater was the Muslim Brotherhood’s leading candidate

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/14/charge-passport-links-muslim-brotherhood-to-benghazi/


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Post by: apples on August 23, 2013, 12:27:27 PM
Team involved in tracking Benghazi suspects pulling out, sources say



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Two weeks after the Obama administration announced charges against suspects in the Benghazi attack, a large portion of the U.S. team that hunted the suspects and trained Libyans to help capture or kill them is leaving Libya permanently.

Special operators in the region tell Fox News that while Benghazi targets have been identified for months, officials in Washington could "never pull the trigger." In fact, one source insists that much of the information on Benghazi suspects had been passed along to the White House after being vetted by the Department of Defense and the State Department -- and at least one recommendation for direct action on a Benghazi suspect was given to President Obama as recently as Aug. 7. 

Meanwhile, months after video, photo and voice documentation on the Benghazi

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/23/team-involved-in-tracking-benghazi-suspects-pulling-out-sources-say/#ixzz2coIVGvlA


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Post by: apples on August 23, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
Obama Bankrolled Attack On The Benghazi Consulate

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It has been widely reported in Egyptian media that one of the leaders in the attack against the Benghazi consulate on September 11, 2012 was Mohsen Al-Azazi.

According to Ahmed Moussa, a former high ranking intelligence official with the Egyptian government and several other sources, Al-Azazi’s passport was found in the house of Khairat Al-Shater, the Number Two man in the Muslim Brotherhood hierarchy, now under house arrest in Egypt by the Egyptian military. Al-Azazi has been implicated as the actual assassin of Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

But this is only the beginning of a blockbuster story.

According to Khairat Al-Shater’s son, Saad Al-Shater, his father is in possession of information linking Obama with criminal activities tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

As reported by at least six Arabic news sources:

    In an interview with the Anatolia News Agency, Saad Al-Shater, the son of a Muslim Brotherhood leader, the detained Khairat Al-Shater said that his father had in his hand evidence that will land the head of United States of America, President Obama, in prison.

Further, as reported by several Arabic news sources, citing a Libyan Intelligence document dated September 15, 2012, six Egyptians from the terrorist group Ansar al-Sharia based in Egypt were arrested for the Benghazi attacks and confessed that then-Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi was behind the attack. Additionally, Muslim

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-bankrolled-attack-on-the-benghazi-consulate/


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Post by: apples on August 28, 2013, 03:18:17 PM
U.S.: Al Qaeda-linked Group Behind Benghazi Attack Trains Jihadists for Syrian Rebel Groups

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U.S. intelligence agencies earlier this month uncovered new evidence that al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Benghazi are training foreign jihadists to fight with Syria’s Islamist rebels, according to U.S. officials.

Ansar al-Sharia, the al Qaeda-affiliated militia that U.S. officials say orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound and a CIA facility in Benghazi, is running several training camps for jihadists in Benghazi and nearby Darnah, another port city further east, said officials who discussed some details of the camps on condition of anonymity.

The officials said the terror training camps have been in operation since at least May and are part of a network that funnels foreign fighters to Syrian rebel groups, including the Al-Nusra Front, the most organized of the Islamist rebel groups fighting the Bashar al-Assad regime in Damascus.

The officials said the jihadist training is a clear indication that Ansar al-Sharia continues to conduct terrorist activities and is linked to jihadists in both Syria and North Africa.

Disclosure of the terror training camps also bolsters earlier intelligence assessments that Libya, following the death of Muammar Qaddafi, is now a focal point for al Qaeda terrorist activity in North Africa.

http://freebeacon.com/u-s-al-qaeda-linked-group-behind-benghazi-attack-trains-jihadists-for-syrian-rebel-groups/

Rebels are White House approved!


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Post by: jafo2010 on August 28, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
I wish I could say I was surprised at any level, but I am not.  Our muslim president helping the leading muslim organization, el quada....why not?  They are all just GOOD PEOPLE  according to George Bush.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on August 29, 2013, 01:09:47 AM
12 years later, we are allies of Al Qaeda  :o


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Post by: apples on August 29, 2013, 10:59:57 AM
I wish I could say I was surprised at any level, but I am not.  Our muslim president helping the leading muslim organization, el quada....why not?  They are all just GOOD PEOPLE  according to George Bush.
Yep can never play nice with the enemy.


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Post by: jafo2010 on August 29, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
AND.......12 years later, we are still at war with these murdering muslim b*st*rds.  How dumb is all of this? 

We have created an entire society of people with nothing above the neckline.  I once had a reporter, whose editor thought she was real sharp, tell me that it would have been fine if we allowed 250,000 Japanese to enter the USA between 1941-45 for possible citizenship.  With people that smart, we are doomed.



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Post by: apples on September 03, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
Book: Clinton's State told Benghazi was a 'terrorist attack' minutes after it began

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Just minutes after 35 jihadists crashed through the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, nearly one year ago, the facility got word to the State Department, FBI and Pentagon that terrorists were attacking, according to a forthcoming book that provides the fullest review of the assault to date.

In “Under Fire, the Untold Story of the Attack in Benghazi,” it is revealed that an unidentified security official in the Benghazi compound protecting Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens messaged the U.S. embassy in Tripoli: “Benghazi under fire, terrorist attack.” Stevens and three others died that night.

Twenty-five minutes after it began, the operation center at State received an electronic cable announcing the attack, according to authors Fred Burton, a former State Diplomatic Security agent and Samuel Katz, an author and expert on international special operations and counterterrorism.
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Their findings in "Under Fire," based on exclusive interviews of those in the battle, refute days of claims by the administration that the attack was sparked by Muslim anger at a U.S.-made anti-Muslim film, and raise new questions as President Obama eyes military action in Syria that U.S. diplomatic posts in the region are properly protected.

The authors note that at the time of the attack in Benghazi there were riots against U.S. embassies in Cairo, Tunis and elsewhere related to the film, “Innocence of Muslims.” That could have been the cause of initial confusion about the attackers, but the eyewitness accounts by State and CIA agents in the battle — backed by live video feeds from drones — should have erased any doubt.

“Benghazi was a malignant symptom,” they wrote, “of a weakened and crippled al Qaeda seeking new battlefields.” They added that the September 11, 2012 attack, exactly 11 years after after al Qaeda’s assault on America, was “to be an opening salvo of a new jihad on the African continent.”

Also revealed for the first time: On her last day as secretary of State, Hillary Clinton summoned four of the five Diplomatic Security agents involved in the Benghazi attack to present them with State’s “Award for Heroism.”


Under Fire, while an unbiased timeline about the heroism of the Diplomatic Security agents, is sure to stoke more criticism of the administration’s

http://washingtonexaminer.com/clintons-state-told-benghazi-was-a-terrorist-attack-minutes-after-it-began/article/2535081


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Post by: apples on September 06, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
Full transcript: President Obama’s news conference in Russia [Benghazi mentioned]

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(Obama:) I could not say that it was immediately directly going to have an impact on our allies. Again, in those situations, I would act right away. This wasn’t even a situation like Libya, where, you know, you’ve got troops rolling towards Benghazi and you have a concern about time, in terms of saving somebody right away.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/running-transcript-president-obamas-press-conference-in-russia/2013/09/06/7d1a39e0-16fd-11e3-804b-d3a1a3a18f2c_story.html

I don't know what he was talking about...yet if this is indeed about the Benghazi attack interesting indeed.



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Post by: apples on September 09, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
Benghazi Whistleblower: I’ve Been ‘Punished’ for Speaking Out

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Gregory Hicks, the former deputy chief of mission in Libya who testified before Congress about the 9/11 attacks on an American diplomatic facility earlier this year, believes he has been “punished” for speaking out about the Obama administration’s response the night of the attack. He said he believes at least two of the Americans lost that night could have been saved if the United States had responded in time.

“I don’t know why I was punished,” Hicks said in an interview with ABC’s This Week. “I don’t know why I was shunted aside, put in a closet if you will.”

Hick said he will continue to talk about the attacks because “the American people need to have the story” of what took place that night and the four Americans who were lost in the attacks “should be remembered.” He also believes that forme

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/357898/benghazi-whistleblower-ive-been-punished-speaking-out-andrew-johnson


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Post by: apples on September 10, 2013, 04:17:17 PM
Attkisson: Kerry Won’t Make Benghazi Survivors Available for Congressional Testimony

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The administration what wants America to trust it on Syria is continuing its cover-up of Benghazi. CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson posted this on Facebook this afternoon.

Secretary of State John Kerry has told House Oversight Committee he will not comply with Republican requests to make Benghazi survivors available for interviews by Congress. Chairman Issa R-CA says if Kerry doesn’t change his mind, there could be subpoenas.

There is only one reason to prevent Americans from testifying: they have something to say that Kerry and Obama don’t want them to say.

Fire off the subpoenas. Tomorrow is the first anniversary of the night that President Barack Obama went missing while Americans died, and the 12th is the first anniversary of Obama, Clinton et al blaming that assault on a movie.

Answers, please.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/attkisson-kerry-wont-make-benghazi-survivors-available-for-congressional-testimony/?print=1


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Post by: jafo2010 on September 11, 2013, 01:30:34 AM
How long can they drag this INEFFECTIVE and BOGUS investigation that is generating no results?

Since when does Congress have to beg executive branch leaders for co-operation?

I say all this hoey is choreographed for the sheeple.  Nothing will come of this.  NOTHING!  I think the effort by Republicans is pathetic!


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Post by: apples on September 11, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
One year later, families have few answers on Benghazi attack

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WASHINGTON –  On the one-year anniversary of the brutal terror attacks in Benghazi, the families of the four murdered Americans are still no closer to the truth about what happened to their loved ones than they were 12 months ago.

Five House panels and an internal investigation later, no one has been arrested, no one has been fired or held accountable, and the communication between the families of the victims and the State Department and White House has become almost non-existent.

“When I was there in Washington, when this first started, the FBI had me in a room to tell me what they were doing,” Pat Smith, the mother of Sean Smith, one of the Americans killed in the terror attacks, told Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/1-year-later-families-have-few-answers-on-benghazi-attack/


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Post by: apples on September 11, 2013, 10:28:35 AM
How long can they drag this INEFFECTIVE and BOGUS investigation that is generating no results?

Since when does Congress have to beg executive branch leaders for co-operation?

I say all this hoey is choreographed for the sheeple.  Nothing will come of this.  NOTHING!  I think the effort by Republicans is pathetic!
I agree nothing will come of this. Heck I found out last week that even the perps that did the Cole bombing haven't been held accountable. Nobody has been held accountable for 9/11 either. A farce and pure injustice.


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Post by: apples on September 13, 2013, 10:25:13 AM
Citizens United's Bossie: Boehner, Cantor Standing in Way of Benghazi Investigation

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Appearing on Breitbart News' broadcast of the "Exempt America" rally on Tuesday with Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon, Bossie said House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) have "lost their way," and that is why conservatives are becoming more fed up with their leadership in the House. He said Benghazi, like Obamacare, was yet another example of the feckless GOP leadership.

"They are seeing us being sold out," Bossie said. "The majority of the Republican conference in the House of Representatives is being sold out on a daily basis."

Bossie said today's GOP leadership reminds him of the days of former House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) in the last decade, who he said gave away the store to ensure that pork was not taken out of bills. Bossie said the Republican leadership wants to do everything except listen to the conservative movement that put them in office and their positions of power, and he cited their unwillingness to defund Obamacare as prime example.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/11/David-Bossie-Boehner-Cantor-Standing-in-Way-of-Benghazi-Investigation


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Post by: apples on September 13, 2013, 10:40:50 AM
Retired 4 star Admiral Blows Whistle on Benghazi new Evidence

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There have been many theories and accusations about the Benghazi fiasco that not only cost Ambassador J. Christian Stevens his life, but the lives of his staff and one Navy Seal body-guard as well. This action which led to a complete conflagration of terrorist attacks against US diplomatic buildings throughout the Middle East and North Africa still remains largely uninvestigated by the government, unprosecuted by AG Eric Holder’s Depart of Justice, and refuses to bring the guilty parties to justice while many know the truth and are not coming forward. Even though President Obama is implicated in this overseas tragedy still the truth has not emerged.

That has all changed. Finally, an authoritative figure with the proper credentials has stepped up to the plate to tell the true story of what did happen without the lies and cover-ups that have so far kept those guilty of murder from standing trial. The admission on the part of this man will likely blow the Benghazi scandal wide open and lead to arrests if we can get our legal system to act as it should. That, however, is a big if.

The story as it truly unfolded

According to a report from the Washington Times, retired 4 Star Admiral James Lyons reveals the entire plot that led to the deaths of Americans in Libya that could have been prevented, who gave the orders, and why events took place as they tragically did. Admiral James Lyons is probably the highest ranking figure ever to intervene in a federal government criminal case, and testify. Thanks to this man’s dedication to his country and the truth, we will finally know the truth and who was responsible.

In his words Lyons says that the attack on Benghazi was a bungled kidnapping attempt to be perpetrated upon Ambassador Stevens. This was to appear to be a hostage exchange for a terrorist prisoner who was to be released in trade for a supposedly captured US ambassador. The trade would have been for Omar Abdel Rahman an international prisoner, known as the Blind Sheikh.

http://www.politisite.com/2013/01/17/retired-4-star-admiral-blows-whistle-on-benghazi-new-evidence/


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Post by: apples on September 17, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
CIA Employee Who Refused to Sign Non-Disclosure on Benghazi Suspended

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Rep. Frank Wolf (R., Va.) revealed at an event on Monday that his office was anonymously informed about the CIA employee, who is purportedly facing an internal backlash after refusing to sign a legal document barring him from publicly or privately discussing events surrounding the Benghazi attack.

The revelation comes about a month after several media outlets reported that CIA employees with knowledge of the terror attack had been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDA) and submit to regular polygraph tests.

?The reports on the NDA are accurate. We?re getting people who call,? Wolf said Monday during an event marking the launch of the Citizens? Commission on Benghazi, a panel of former military and intelligence officials who are investigating unanswered questions surrounding the Benghazi incident.

Wolf?s office first received the anonymous call earlier in the summer, soon after CNN and Fox News reported on the NDAs and polygraph tests.

http://freebeacon.com/cia-employee-who-refused-to-sign-non-disclosure-on-benghazi-suspended/?print=1


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Post by: apples on September 17, 2013, 10:45:16 AM
Sharyl Attkisson Spotlights Benghazi Inquiry; First On-Air Report in Over 4 Months

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On Monday's CBS This Morning, Sharyl Attkisson pointed out the "potential conflict of interest" in the ongoing controversy over the Islamist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya. Attkisson detailed how congressional Republican are scrutinizing Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy's involvement in naming staff to the Accountability Review Board, even as it was investigating his role in the lead-up to the September 11, 2012 attack [MP3 audio available here; video below].

It was Attkisson's first report about Benghazi on CBS's morning and evening newscasts since the May 8, 2013 edition of CBS This Morning. Her report that day was the first time in over five months that the journalist reported about the story on the air.

Anchor Norah O'Donnell introduced the correspondent's report by noting the "new congressional report...[on] the investigation of the attack that killed America's ambassador to Libya one year ago and three other Americans. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee claim the Benghazi probe did not go far enough." Attkisson added that the State Department investigation was "billed as 'comprehensive' and 'independent', but Republicans say it was not quite as advertised. They say the A.R.B. faulted lower-level State Department employees, and downplayed the roles of senior officials."

The CBS journalist led by pointing out that the head of Accountability Review Board, Ambassador Thomas Pickering, "told Bob Schieffer that investigators didn't need to interview Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top deputies." She played a clip from the May 2013 interview on Face the Nation, and continued that "that decision to skip in-depth interviews with key officials is cited as evidence of a potential conflict of interest in today's Republican House Oversight Committee report. The report says State Department Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy supervised selection of the A.R.B. staff, even as his own role was part of the investigation."

Attkisson then detailed Kennedy's alleged role in the security failure at the diplomatic facility in Benghazi:

SHARYL ATTKISSON: Several State Department officials told congressional investigators that Kennedy authorized the Benghazi compound to operate as a temporary facility exempted from regular security guidelines, which posed security challenges; and sent home the specialized military security team that Ambassador Christopher Stevens and his staff had asked to keep in Libya.

The A.R.B. blamed four of Kennedy's subordinates for security lapses. But State Department witnesses testified those employees sometimes had little to no responsibility for the poor decisions.

Near the end of the segment, the CBS correspondent noted that "congressional Democrats and the State Department defend the A.R.B. as one of the most comprehensive reviews in history. The lead Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Elijah Cummings, said – quote, 'Republicans have politicized the investigation, in a systemic effort to launch unsubstantiated allegations.' The fight will continue later this week, when Pickering is set to testify before the House Oversight Committee."

On September 10, 2013, Attkisson reported on Twitter that Secretary of State John Kerry "tells [C]ongress he will not honor the request to make Benghazi survivors available for questioning." Her scoop about Kerry never made it to the air on CBS's morning and evening newscasts. The following day, CBS Evening News did broadcast a full report on the State Department's lack of progress in strengthening security at U.S. diplomatic posts since the Benghazi attack, but let the Obama administration and Democratic Senator Robert Menendez hint that congressional Republicans were at fault.

The full transcript of Sharyl Attkisson's report from Monday's CBS This Morning:

NORAH O'DONNELL: A new congressional report this morning targets the investigation of the attack that killed America's ambassador to Libya one year ago and three other Americans. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee claim the Benghazi probe did not go far enough.

Sharyl Attkisson is on Capitol Hill. Sharyl, good morning.

SHARYL ATTKISSON: Good morning, Norah. It was billed as 'comprehensive' and 'independent', but Republicans say it was not quite as advertised. They say the A.R.B. faulted lower-level State Department employees, and downplayed the roles of senior officials.

[CBS News Graphic: "Benghazi Review: Congress: State Department Report Was Flawed"]

ATTKISSON (voice-over): Last May, the head of the Accountability Review Board, Thomas Pickering, told Bob Schieffer that investigators didn't need to interview Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or her top deputies.

BOB SCHIEFFER (from May 12, 2013 interview of CBS's "Face the Nation"): Do you think, in retrospect, it might have been a good idea to question her and some of these other ranking officials?

AMB. THOMAS PICKERING, ACCOUNTABILITY REVIEW BOARD CHAIRMAN:  I think that we knew and understood, because we had questioned people who had attended meetings with her.

ATTKISSON: That decision to skip in-depth interviews with key officials is cited as evidence of a potential conflict of interest in today's Republican House Oversight Committee report. The report says State Department Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy supervised selection of the A.R.B. staff, even as his own role was part of the investigation.

Several State Department officials told congressional investigators that Kennedy authorized the Benghazi compound to operate as a temporary facility exempted from regular security

http://mrc.org/biasalerts/sharyl-attkisson-spotlights-benghazi-inquiry-first-air-report-over-4-months


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Post by: apples on September 17, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
Oversight committee releases report on Benghazi faulting Hillary for letting top officials off the hook

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More importantly than criticizing former Secretary Clinton, the report is scathing in its portrayal of the so-called "independent commission" headed by Thomas Pickering and former JCS chief Admiral Mullen. The committee investigation concluded that the commission - the Accountability Review Board - was not independent and should not have solely blamed the security debacle on 4 mid level state department employees.

Josh Rogin:

    The Administrative Review Board, chosen by then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, unfairly placed the blame for the terrorist attack on four mid-level officials while ignoring the role of very senior officials in Clinton's State Department for decisions about security in Benghazi, according to the new report led by Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA). Also, the structure of the ARB and the culture in Clinton's State Department raised questions about the independence and integrity of the review, according to Issa's committee.

    "The ARB blamed systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies within two bureaus, but downplayed the importance of decisions made at senior levels of the Department. Witnesses questioned how much these decisions influenced the weaknesses that led to the inadequate security posture in Benghazi," the report stated. "The ARB's decision to cite certain officials as accountable for what happened in Benghazi appears to have been based on factors that had little or no connection to the security posture at U.S. diplomatic facilities in Libya."

    The Daily Beast first reported in May that the four officials removed from their jobs and placed on administrative leave as a result of the State Department's ARB report on Benghazi had never been told what they were accused of, never been given any opportunity to appeal their punishments, and never were officially fired. One of the officials, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Ray Maxwell, had little to no role in Libya security policy and was not even alleged to have been connected to the security failures leading up to the Benghazi attack.

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    "The haphazard decision to place the four officials cited by the ARB on paid administrative leave created the appearance that former Secretary Hillary Clinton's decision to announce action against the individuals named in the ARB report was more of a public relations strategy than a measured response to a tragedy," Issa's report said. "Therefore, one year after the Benghazi attacks, no one at the State Department has been fired for their role leading up to the Benghazi attacks. It appears increasingly likely the Department's primary objective was to create the public appearance of accountability."

Basically the political cover up is continuing even today. What started as an attempt to deflect blame from candidate Obama became a full blown, full court press to manipulate information coming out about the attack to save Clinton and her under secretaries from well deserved criticism, as well as distance the president as far as possible from the decision making process leading up to the attack as well as what happened during the terrorist assault.

Rep. Issa is still bulldogging the issue, demanding to interview survivors of the attack. But more than a year after the fact, the state department, the CIA and the Pentagon are all dragging their feet about allowing Issa's committee access to the people who could clear up several discrepancies and answer questions that still linger.

Little of this is a surprise. Only the willfully self deluded believed the ARB was "independent" and that Clinton wouldn't do everything in her power to cover up her failures. But its now on the record and could lead to some uncomfortable questions of candidate Clinton as she begins her run for the White House.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/oversight_committee_releases_report_on_benghazi_faulting_hillary_for_letting_top_officials_off_the_h.html


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Post by: apples on September 17, 2013, 02:50:12 PM
Benghazi Dad Wishes Obama Hadn?t Slept Through the Murder of his Son

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Charles Woods is the father of Tyrone Woods, one of the Navy SEALS who disobeyed orders and heroically rushed to the rescue of the Benghazi mission personnel and was abandoned without support.

Under Bush, the media turned Cindy Sheehan into an icon. But none of the Benghazi family members can get airtime outside of FOX to discuss the sense of pain and abandonment that they feel.

When asked about Obama, Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods who was killed in Benghazi, said:

It?s a little late for that. I wish he had taken the time the night of September 11, not to go to bed, not to go prepare to collect money in Las Vegas, but I wish he had taken time then to watch more of the video of the live time ambush attack and that I wish that he had sent the troops that everybody knows were available to rescue those people?

In this case, there was no rescue attempt, no planes sent. In fact, Ty?s body was left on the tarmac for three hours and there wasn?t even an American plane sent to rescue or even take his body home.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/benghazi-dad-wishes-obama-hadnt-slept-through-the-murder-of-his-son/

bold type mine.


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Post by: apples on September 19, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
FBI barred from making Benghazi arrests in Libya

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The Libyan government will not allow the FBI into Benghazi to arrest suspects for last year's deadly terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission, a top State Department official told a House panel on Wednesday.

Federal authorities have filed charges against suspects in connection with the September 11 attack on the mission and nearby CIA annex that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

But Republicans on the House Foreign Affairs Committee said they were shocked nobody has been brought to justice.

"Not one terrorist perpetrator has been captured or killed, despite the president saying that this was his highest priority," said Rep. Ed Royce, the panel's Republican chairman.

Rep. Ted Poe added that CNN's Arwa Damon interviewed Ahmed Khattalah in broad daylight. Khattalah is the leader of a Libyan militia officials believe was involved in the assault and has been charged by federal prosecutors.

"After a year, we can't find these people but yet a CNN reporter can go to

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/18/fbi-barred-from-making-benghazi-arrests-in-libya/


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Post by: apples on September 19, 2013, 05:35:38 PM
Spitting on Their Graves: Democrats Leave Benghazi Hearing Before Testimony From Families of Victims
Katie Pavlich | Sep 19, 2013


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During the second portion of a House Oversight and Government Reform hearing about Benghazi Thursday on Capitol Hill, the majority of Democrats on the Committee left the room and refused to listen to the testimony of Patricia Smith and Charles Woods. Ms. Smith is the mother of Sean Smith, an information management officer killed in the 9/11 Benghazi attack. Charles Woods is the father of Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, who was also killed.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/09/19/spitting-on-their-graves-democrats-leave-benghazi-hearing-before-testimony-from-benghazi-families-n1704732


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Post by: apples on September 20, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
Obama administration says GOP Benghazi subpoenas could 'jeopardize' FBI probe

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The State Department said Thursday that Republican subpoenas to interview witnesses to the Benghazi terror attack could ?jeopardize? the FBI's investigation.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) announced Thursday that he has subpoenaed John Martinec, the top security adviser to slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, who was killed in the attack. Issa has also subpoenaed Alec Henderson, the regional security officer in Benghazi.

?We understand that the Diplomatic Security law enforcement agents who performed heroically on September 11 are likely witnesses at any criminal proceedings relating to the Benghazi attacks, and that additional interviews of them outside of the criminal justice process could jeopardize those efforts to bring the terrorists to justice,? a State Department official told The Hill. ?That said, the Department is not preventing any employees who wish to tell their story from doing so.?

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/323429-obama-administration-says-gop-benghazi-subpoenas-could-jeopardize-fbi-probe


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Post by: apples on September 20, 2013, 12:43:26 PM
Adm. Mullen Admits Special Ops Told to 'Hold in Place' During Benghazi

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On Thursday, while denying that a "stand-down order" was given to Special Forces members ready to help Americans who were under siege at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last September, one of the heads of the Benghazi Accountability Review Board (ARB) admitted that a "hold in place" order was in fact given.

Testifying before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Admiral Mike Mullen said that the direction given to Special Operations Command Africa commander Lt. Col Gibson was to "hold in place" on the night of the attacks. 

Gibson is the boss of Gregory Hicks, the former deputy chief of mission in Libya who had testified that a "stand down" order was given to Special Forces who wanted to help Americans who were under assault in Libya.

Mullen also said that U.S. aircraft were not at the ready while the attack was ongoing. He claimed there was a "physics problem" in addition to a "time and distance problem" that prevented the United States from providing immediate air cover.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/19/Adm-Mullen-Denies-Stand-Down-Order-Given-Admits-Special-Ops-Told-to-Hold-in-Place


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Post by: apples on September 21, 2013, 12:20:57 PM
Benghazi investigators gave Hillary Clinton heads-up on findings

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Retired Adm. Mike Mullen, vice chairman of the accountability review board, also acknowledged that he had warned Mrs. Clinton?s chief of staff not to send a particular official to Congress because he thought ?she would be a weak witness? who might have hurt the State Department?s stance.

Republicans said those moves called into question the motives of the review, which was supposed to be an independent look at what went wrong in the attack and how to prevent others.

?If this is so independent, why are you giving the State Department a heads-up about a witness coming in front of this committee?? said Rep. Jim Jordan, Ohio Republican. He said the warning came just days after Adm. Mullen had been appointed to the review board.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/19/independent-benghazi-investigators-gave-clinton-he/


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Post by: apples on September 21, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Dems Leave Room As Benghazi Mom Says Obama, Hillary Lied

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Benghazi-gate: Democrats couldn't share the grief of a mom who was lied to in front of her son's casket or a grieving father who wonders why the general who could have mounted a rescue was relieved of his post.

It was a shameful spectacle all around, starting with bizarre testimony by the authors of the State Department's Accountability Review Board (ARB) report and including real tears in a scandal branded as "phony" by the Obama administration and the repetition of lies agreed upon.

The scene was Thursday's hearing on the Benghazi terrorist attack before Rep. Darrell Issa's House Oversight Committee. ARB co-chair Thomas Pickering shamelessly repeated the excuse that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was not interviewed by the board because members knew where the responsibility rested ? as if an attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission and the murder of an ambassador, the first in three decades, was outside the scope of her interest or authority.

Yet Pickering and Mike Mullen, former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, authors of this "independent" investigation, admitted they regularly briefed Clinton and her advisers on their probe, an admission made more telling when the parents of two of the Benghazi dead said they never received the information they were promised on how and why their sons died.

Incredibly, they also explained why they didn't swear in witnesses for the ARB: "We had no reason to believe we would not get truthful testimony." Really? They had no reason to doubt the truthfulness of people who for weeks claimed a terrorist attack was really a spontaneous demonstration triggered by an old Internet video?

But the grim reality of this "phony" scandal really hit home with the testimony of Patricia Smith and Charles Woods, which apparently threatened more revealed truth than most Democrats on the Oversight panel could handle. With the exception of ranking member Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and Jackie Speier, D-Calif., 12 other Democrats on the Committee shamefully left the room and refused to listen to the testimony of Smith, mother of Sean

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/092013-671986-patricia-smith-says-obama-and-hillary-lied.htm

Names of Democrats on House Oversight Committee who walked out on Benghazi victim family members

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Rep. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.)
Rep. John Tierney (MA-6)
Rep. Wm. Lacy Clay (MO-1)
Rep. Stephen Lynch (MA-9)
Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-5)
Rep. Gerald Connolly (VA-11)
Rep. Matt Cartwright (PA-17)
Rep. Mark Pocan (WI-2)
Rep. Tammy Duckworth (IL-8)
Rep. Danny K. Davis (IL-7)
Rep. Peter Welch (VT)
Rep. Tony Cardenas (CA-29)
Rep. Steve Horsford (NV-4)
Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham (NM-1)

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2013/09/19/names-democrats-house-oversight-committee-walked-benghazi-victim-family-members/


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Post by: apples on September 21, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
Darrell Issa to travel to Libya

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Darrell Issa is scheduled to travel to Libya next week as part of his investigation into the attack last year on the Benghazi consulate, according to documents obtained by POLITICO.

The California Republican, who chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, did not invite Democratic counterparts on the trip, which has been in the works for over a week and begins on Sunday with stops in Italy and Egypt.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/darrell-issa-libya-benghazi-97146.html?hp=f2


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Post by: apples on October 28, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
'These guys are no good. You need to get them out of here': First Western witness to give account of Benghazi attack says he warned embassy officials SEVERAL times to get better security guards

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A British security expert is the first Western witness to give his account of the September 11, 2012 attacks on the U.S. Consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

Morgan Jones (name changed) spoke with CBS' 60 Minutes about the day of the attack, as well as his conversations with assassinated Ambassador Chris Stevens and Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith in the lead-up to the attacks, both of whom expressed their anxiety about the compound's protection.

Mr Jones came to Benghazi, Libya five months before the attack to train unarmed guards stationed around the American compound.

Initially, he thought that the assignment would be easier than say Afghanistan or Iraq but that assessment changed immediately after landing in the country.

All over the city, he noticed the black flag of al Qaeda being displayed in public. When he got the embassy, no security guards greeted him.

'There was nobody there that we could see. And then we realized they were all inside drinking tea, laughing and joking,' he said.

Right then, he knew he would have to get rid of those security guards. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478152/Western-witness-Benghazi-attack-says-warned-officials-improve-security.html


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Post by: Stan In FL on October 29, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
CBS finally caught up to where foxnews was 8 months ago


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Post by: apples on October 29, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
Jay Carney: Obama administration made 'extraordinary efforts' to aid Benghazi probes

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White House press secretary Jay Carney on Monday said the Obama administration had made ?extraordinary efforts? to work with congressional committees probing the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.

?When it comes to oversight and Benghazi, as you know, the administration has made extraordinary efforts to work with seven -- seven, rather, different congressional committees investigating what happened before, during and after the Benghazi attacks,? Carney told reporters. ?That includes testifying at 13 congressional hearings, participating in 40 staff briefings and providing over 25,000 pages of documents.?

His comments came in response to a question about Sen. Lindsey Graham?s, R-S.C., threat early Monday to hold all administration nominees unless he received more information about the deadly attack.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/jay-carney-obama-administration-made-extraordinary-efforts-to-aid-benghazi-probes/article/2537997


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Post by: apples on October 29, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
Benghazi Attorney?s Major Assertion: ?Reason to Believe? People Who ?Insisted? on Military Response That Night Were ?Relieved of Their Duty?

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Some military commanders may have been relieved of duty for insisting on trying to send help for the Americans trapped at the Benghazi compound during the terrorist attack there on Sept. 11, 2012, an attorney for Benghazi whistleblowers said Monday.

Joe diGenova, former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, made the assertion during a Monday moning radio interview on WMAL, the D.C. radio station where he is a regular legal analyst.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/28/benghazi-attorneys-major-assertion-reason-to-believe-people-who-insisted-on-military-response-that-night-were-relieved-of-their-duty/

Well DUH! 9 generals have been replaced so far in this administration.


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Post by: apples on October 30, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
First on CNN: US commandos were poised for raid to capture Benghazi suspect

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When U.S. commandos grabbed a former al Qaeda operative in Tripoli this month, American forces were just hours away from potentially launching a more dangerous covert raid to capture a militia figure facing charges in the deadly Benghazi terror attack, U.S. officials tell CNN.

U.S. special operations forces were ready, if ordered, to enter Benghazi and capture Ahmed Abu Khattalah, a leading figure in the Ansar Al-Sharia militia. But the mission never materialized.

The United States believes Ansar Al-Sharia was behind the September 2012 armed assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

President Barack Obama has openly said it is a "priority" to bring the Benghazi suspects "to justice." The FBI continues to investigate the attack and Khattalah is under federal indictment, CNN's Evan Perez has reported.

The FBI has also published photographs of people seen at the compound on the night of the raid that it wants to talk to.

U.S. intelligence agencies and military special operations forces have moved in and out of Libya for several months with the permission of the Libyan government. They are looking for opportunities to capture alleged suspects in the Benghazi attack, developing a list of nearly a dozen individuals.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/29/first-on-cnn-us-commandos-were-poised-for-raid-to-capture-benghazi-suspect/


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Post by: apples on October 31, 2013, 11:36:47 AM
Two of eight commandos in Tripoli sent to Benghazi rescue, honored for valor

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Masked from public view, two of the U.S. military?s elite special operations commandos have been awarded medals for bravery for a mission that further undercuts the Obama administration?s original story about the Benghazi tragedy.


For months, administration officials have claimed no special operations forces were dispatched from outside Libya to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012, al Qaeda terrorist attacks on the U.S. diplomatic mission and CIA annex because none was within range.

The Pentagon, under intense public criticism for not coming to the aid of besieged Americans, published an official timeline in November that carefully danced around the issue.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/30/us-military-commandos-made-it-to-benghazi/


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Post by: apples on October 31, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
Justice and State departments blocking access to survivors of Benghazi attack

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The Justice and State departments are now citing a year-old FBI investigation and a future criminal prosecution to block access to survivors of last year?s Benghazi terror attack.

SNIP

The ?Rewards for Justice? program, described on the State Department?s own website as a valuable tool in counter-terrorism cases, offers millions of dollars for information about suspects who are not accused of murdering Americans.

Yet there is no reward for information leading to those who murdered  Stevens, Foreign Service officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

Kerry's staff refuses to discuss it. "I don't have anything new for you on the Al Qaeda suspects from Benghazi," State Department spokesman Jen Psaki told Fox News. .

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/31/justice-and-state-departments-blocking-access-to-survivors-benghazi-attack/

Really makes one wonder what is so bad that the administration is going to these lengths to cover it up.


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Post by: apples on October 31, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
Explosive New Report -- Obama Knew Benghazi Would Be Attacked

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You have to give it to CBS. On Benghazi, they are the network holding the Obama administration?s feet to the fire. At some point, Americans will have to begin to realize that there is a scandal hiding in all of the BS that the Obama administration has been peddling about the 9-11 Benghazi attack and its aftermath. Just this past weekend, CBS ran an explosive report providing first-hand accounts that the White House and the State Department (headed by Hillary Clinton) knew full well that the Benghazi attack was indeed an al-Qaeda orchestrated attack right from the start. Even more damning ? there is new evidence that shows they were expecting this attack for months!

http://eaglerising.com/2577/explosive-new-report-obama-knew-benghazi-attacked/


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Post by: apples on November 01, 2013, 12:40:53 PM
CIA operatives to testify at classified Benghazi hearing

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Washington (CNN) -- A House Intelligence subcommittee will hear from CIA security officers who are expected to tell a much more detailed story about the terror attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans last year, CNN has learned.

The men, described by sources as former Navy SEALs, former Army Special Forces and former Marines, were under contract to guard CIA agents on the ground there.

The security officers were among those who responded when Stevens' compound was attacked on the night of September 11, 2012.

They will appear before lawmakers behind closed doors during the week of November 11, sources told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/politics/benghazi-cia-hearing/?sr=google_news&google_editors_picks=true


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Post by: apples on November 01, 2013, 03:29:43 PM



Help was right there in Libya during the Benghazi attack and neither Hillary nor Obama bothered to send in the calvary.




 
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  ??sources directly familiar with the attack tell The Washington Times that a unit of eight special operators ? mostly Delta Force and Green Beret members ? were in Tripoli the night of the attack, on a counterterrorism mission that involved capturing weapons and wanted terrorists from the streets and helping train Libyan forces.

    When word of the Benghazi attack surfaced, two members of that military unit volunteered to be dispatched along with five private security contractors on a hastily arranged flight from Tripoli to rescue Americans in danger, the sources said, speaking only on the condition of anonymity because the special operations forces? existence inside Libya was secret.?

http://www.rightwingnews.com/barack-obama/bombshell-there-were-us-commandos-on-the-ground-in-libya-the-night-of-benghazi-they-werent-allowed-to-help/


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Post by: apples on November 03, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
Exclusive: Benghazi Whistleblower Says He Was Smeared

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The Benghazi whistleblower whose new book details massive security failures in the run-up to the September 11, 2012 attacks denies he wrote an incident report made public this week that undermines key details in his memoir.

The debate over the Obama administration?s actions before and after the attack on the U.S. mission was reignited following an Oct. 27 60 Minutes report featuring an interview with Morgan Jones, a pseudonym for a British security contractor who trained and advised the local Libyan guard force for the U.S. mission in Benghazi. Jones?s book, The Embassy House, was released two days later and contains a firsthand account of his time in Benghazi and his actions during the series of attacks that resulted in the death of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/02/exclusive-benghazi-whistleblower-says-he-was-smeared.html


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Post by: apples on November 08, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
'60 Minutes' issues apology for 'mistake' in Benghazi reporting

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CBS correspondent Lara Logan issued an apology Friday morning, admitting that she and the network had made a ?mistake? in its coverage of the deadly Benghazi terrorist attacks.

?We were wrong to put him on air,? she said Friday. ?We will apologize to our viewers and we will correct the record on our broadcast on Sunday night.?

Late Thursday, ?60 Minutes? announced it was reviewing the credibility of a purported Western eyewitness to the deadly Benghazi terror attacks who gave a harrowing description of events and claimed Americans knew such an incident was inevitable.

"'60 Minutes' has learned of new information that undercuts the account told to us by Morgan Jones of his actions on the night of the attack on the Benghazi compound,? the network said. ?We are currently looking into this serious matter to determine if he misled us, and if so, we will make a correction.?

CBS gave no further details but details of his account had been challenged. The Washington Post said he had given a different account of his experiences to his employer after the attack.

Morgan Jones was a pseudonym for a former British soldier who for decades helped protect U.S.diplomats and military leaders and was supervising local guards the night of the Sep. 11, 2012 assault.

He told ?60 Minutes? that Al Qaeda forces first attacked the U.S. Special Mission Compound, where Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed. Then they launched a second attack on a secret CIA annex about a mile across the city.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/07/60-minutes-reviewing-account-benghazi-attack-witness/?intcmp=latestnews


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Post by: apples on November 11, 2013, 11:36:14 AM
Fox leftist Leslie Marshall blames Amb. Chris Stevens for his death during Benghazi

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Want to see just how disgusting leftist hags can be? Look no further than Fox News leftist Leslie Marshall. She looks like she?s begun her Thanksgiving feast about a month early, and as usual was full of hot air. But today, Leslie Marshall crossed the line in progressive liberal Democrat vile. She tried to defend Obama and Hillary Clinton despite the damning Benghazi report that came out on 60 minutes yesterday. Instead of placing any blame on Obama or Hillary Clinton for failing to properly secure the consulate, Leslie Marshall actually blamed Ambassdor Chris Stevens for his own death that night because he wanted to ?branch out? from Tripoli to Benghazi.

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2013/10/28/fox-leftist-leslie-marshall-blames-amb-chris-stevens-death-benghazi/?utm_source=FAM_Blog&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FireAndreaMitchell+%28Fire+Andrea+Mitchell!+Exposing+Liberal+bias+cause+the+MSM+d


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Post by: apples on November 11, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
Tea party to honor fallen SEALs Chris Kyle, those at Benghazi with sculptures
(http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2013/11/11/2013ringlingcollege_gregmarra_jacksonpetty021_s640x471.jpg?cb36dd1ec888f82ab323c984526273e1f5185ac5)

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?I am an intuitive artist. I believe and I feel that their spirits are in the room when I am working, and that they?re helping me finish that work,? said Greg Marra, a Florida sculptor who is a man on a mission. He is determined to tell the stories of fallen American warriors.

?I know it sounds crazy, but I feel their presence. That?s what happens when you?re creating a life-sized image of someone.?

Mr. Marra has focused attention on Chris Kyle ? a SEAL sniper who was gunned down this year on a Texas shooting range ? along with Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, former SEALs killed during the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. Also on the ever-expanding list of subjects: Adam Brown, one of 17 SEALs who died in the 2011 crash of a

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/10/to-seals-sculptor-spirits-of-heroes-are-still-aliv/


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Post by: apples on November 11, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
CBS News Chief: Faulty Benghazi Report a 'Black Eye' for '60 Minutes'

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Jeff Fager tells The Hollywood Reporter how the FBI's incident report prompted the news division's retraction of the story, defends anchor Lara Logan and describes why Dylan Davies was used as a source: "He deceived us. ? This is not some sort of rogue player. There were a lot of reasons to believe he was credible. We were wrong to believe that."

An FBI incident report that directly contradicts eyewitness claims made by Dylan Davies about the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, Libya, was the "lynchpin" for CBS News executives' decision to retract an Oct. 27 60 Minutes report.

"As soon as we learned about the FBI report, we knew right away. All of us. There wasn't any debate about it," CBS News chairman and 60 Minutes executive producer Jeff Fager told The Hollywood Reporter during a phone interview on Friday.

Until then, Fager had defended Lara Logan's report despite growing questions about Davies' credibility. But The New York Times uncovered the contents of the FBI report on Thursday night, citing "two senior government officials" who said that Davies told the FBI he was not on the scene until the next morning.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-news-chief-faulty-benghazi-654688

Meanwhile.....Who gave the stand down order?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 11, 2013, 03:17:49 PM
S&S Pulls Benghazi Book

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"In light of information that has been brought to our attention since the initial publication of The Embassy House, we have withdrawn from publication and sale all formats of this book, and are recommending that booksellers do the same," said Jennifer Robinson, spokesperson for the book's publisher, Threshold Editions, an imprint of S&S. "We also are notifying accounts that they may return the book to us."

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/59929-s-s-pulls-benghazi-book.html?utm_source=Publishers+Weekly&utm_campaign=879b043adf-UA-15906914-1&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0bb2959cbb-879b043adf-304632189


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Post by: apples on November 13, 2013, 12:35:30 PM
Benghazi Hoax Begets More Hoaxes

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60 Minutes" correspondent Lara Logan had to walk back her reporting on the attack that left Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods dead in a Benghazi, Libya, mission Sept. 11, 2012. "We realized we had been misled," Logan said of discredited source Dylan Davies on Sunday.

No lie. CBS News Chairman Jeff Fager told The New York Times that the segment was "as big a mistake as there has been" on the 45-year-old news staple. Given that "60 Minutes II" had to retract a 2004 report on the National Guard service of President George W. Bush, to the chagrin of anchorman Dan Rather, Fager essentially admitted to epic failure.

When the story ran, I remember wondering why "60 Minutes" granted anonymity to Davies, who claimed to have seen Stevens' body on the night of the attack. Surely, after the piece ran, I thought, his name would get out -- as it did within days. "60 Minutes" disclosed that the private British security contractor was using

http://townhall.com/columnists/debrajsaunders/2013/11/12/benghazi-hoax-begets-more-hoaxes-n1744770?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl


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Post by: apples on November 13, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
Details emerge about Americans badly injured in Benghazi attack

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In addition to the four Americans killed in the Benghazi terror attack last year, at least two other Americans were severely injured in the fighting that night, Fox News has learned.

The injuries were sustained by U.S. personnel after mortars struck the CIA annex rooftop they were defending. Fox News is told that one former government contractor -- who is expected to testify this week along with four other contractors in classified sessions on Capitol Hill -- has had multiple surgeries since the attack and has still not regained full use of one arm.

The blood loss after the attack was so severe that a source close to the contractor said it had been life-threatening.

As previously reported, diplomatic security agent David Ubben has also undergone multiple surgeries since that attack. As recently as August, he was still recovering at Walter Reed Medical Center in suburban Washington.

Little is known about those who survived the Benghazi attack. The State Department confirmed in March, after multiple inquiries by Fox News, that a total of three diplomatic security agents, as well as a State Department contractor, were among the Americans injured during the terrorist assault which killed the two former SEALs, Ambassador Chris Stevens, and Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith.

The latest details are emerging as the House Intelligence Committee hears this week from contractors who were on the ground in Benghazi. Fox News has learned that they will give their accounts in closed, classified sessions on Wednesday and Thursday.

Two contractors were expected to appear Wednesday, and three former government contractors from the CIA annex are expected Thursday, according to sources familiar with the meetings.

In a press release from earlier this year, the intelligence committee appeared to identify this week's witnesses, adding that they included those who signed a book deal earlier this year. "The Subcommittee will pursue interviews with three additional CIA personnel who are publishing a book and whose public comments suggest possible contradictions with testimony the Intelligence Committee has received on the record," the release said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/13/details-emerge-about-americans-badly-injured-in-benghazi-attack/


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Post by: apples on November 14, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
U.S. government knew about al-Qaeda 'pep rally for jihad' in Benghazi that included calls for the murder of American diplomats - just months before terror attack

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A report prepared for the government in August 2012 described a massive military presence of Ansar al-Sharia, the group behind the Benghazi attack
It warned 'assassinations' would follow, and said the first attack on the U.S. diplomatic station quickly followed the two-day June rally in Benghazi
U.S. State Department intelligence undoubtedly saw the report, yet the agency denied frequent requests for extra security in the city
The Sept. 11, 2012 attack left U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead, and razed the facility

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2506545/U-S-government-knew-June-2012-al-Qaeda-pep-rally-jihad-Benghazi-including-calls-murder-American-diplomats.html


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Post by: apples on November 15, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
"Discredited" Benghazi Whistleblower Disappears

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ast week, CBS?s ?news? magazine program 60 Minutes issued a contrite apology and retraction for a chilling eyewitness report on the Benghazi massacre [2] and the publishing company Simon & Schuster pulled the book The Embassy House from retailers. Dylan Davies, the author of the book and source for the report, was painted as a dishonest guy looking to make a buck off of a tragedy.

    Davies has now been ?discredited? by none other than our own government. That would be the same government that allowed Hillary Clinton to play hooky from the Congressional hearings [3] about the massacre. (Perhaps protecting her potential 2016 run for the presidency?) The same government who put other witnesses in fear of their lives and would not allow them to speak publically [4] about the ordeal. The same government that sees the coverup unraveling [5] and is still trying to knit the pieces back together.

    Was CBS under government pressure to retract this story? Was Simon & Schuster forced to pull the books from the shelves? It seems that there is a governmental cloak of secrecy over the attack on the embassy. Files have been sealed [6]. Families have more questions than answers [7] about what happened on that fateful night. (source [2])

There are still more questions than answers about Davies. The FBI has refused to comment on Davies because he is the subject of ?an ongoing investigation.? CBS and other mainstream sources maintain the story that Davies was not a credible witness and that his report was fraudulent. We won?t be getting any answers from Davies anytime soon because he has vanished.

    It is the kind of note a publisher dreads. Dylan Davies, the British contractor whose contested eyewitness account of the assault on the U.S. compound in Benghazi caused a firestorm, sent an email to the publisher of his new book telling them he was going dark.

    In the message, which was sent on Friday morning to Simon & Schuster vice president Jennifer Robinson, Davies said someone had threatened to harm his family if he continued to defend his account of events in Benghazi to the media. The email was obtained by The Daily Beast.

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2734278%3ATopic%3A589158&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic


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Post by: apples on November 15, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
Congressman: Benghazi survivors suggested fighting NEVER stopped between consulate and CIA annex

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Congressman Nunes, who sits on the Intelligence committee and was in the classified hearings with the Benghazi survivors, says the survivors offered conflicting reports on what actually happened on the ground in Benghazi when the consulate was attacked in 2012. The administration has said that there was a big lull of several hours between the consulate attack and the CIA Annex attack. But Nunes suggests the survivors indicated that the fighting NEVER stopped and he was quick to point out that he believes the survivors.

Watch:

http://therightscoop.com/congressman-benghazi-survivors-suggested-fighting-never-stopped-between-consulate-and-cia-annex/


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Post by: apples on November 15, 2013, 01:04:44 PM
Benghazi Survivors Given NDAs at CIA Memorial Service for Woods, Doherty

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Two former CIA officials who fought in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, were asked to sign additional nondisclosure agreements (NDAs) more than six months after those attacks. The two officials, who will testify Thursday before a subcommittee of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, were presented the nondisclosure agreements during a memorial service in May at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, honoring Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, two of the CIA-affiliated personnel who died during those attacks.

CIA officials have rejected persistent accusations that the Agency has sought to keep Benghazi survivors from sharing their stories. In a letter obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD earlier this fall, CIA director John Brennan categorically denied claims that the CIA discouraged its operatives or contractors from speaking out about their experiences.

In a letter dated September 3, 2013, and addressed to House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers, Brennan posed and answered several questions responding to allegations the Agency had discouraged Benghazi survivors from talking.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/benghazi-survivors-signed-ndas-cia-memorial-service-woods-doherty_767070.html


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Post by: apples on November 16, 2013, 12:19:56 PM
State Department reveals it's been offering $10M reward for Benghazi info

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WASHINGTON ?  The State Department announced Friday it has been quietly offering a reward of up to $10 million for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in the deadly 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi.

Friday?s acknowledgement comes weeks after Fox News reported that the Benghazi case was not listed as part of the State Department's "Rewards for Justice" website. The apparent omission prompted several complaints from Republican lawmakers.

But the State Department, in a letter sent to Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, revealed that it has in fact been offering the reward through other channels since January -- though the department previously declined to disclose that information.

Friday?s announcement of a reward raised questions among some lawmakers about how effective a multi-million dollar reward could be if it was not widely known or

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/15/state-department-says-it-been-offering-10-million-reward-for-benghazi-info/?intcmp=latestnews


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Post by: apples on November 16, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
Congressional source: Benghazi contractors seem to contradict CIA chief

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(CNN) -- CIA contract security officers who responded to the terrorist attacks on the U.S. ambassador in Benghazi, Libya, last year were told by the CIA to sign nondisclosure agreements just before a memorial ceremony at the CIA's headquarters in Langley, Virginia, this past May, a congressional source told CNN.

The source says this was disclosed by the contractors during closed-door testimony on Capitol Hill this week, and it seems to contradict information sent by CIA Director John Brennan to the House Intelligence Committee investigating the events in Benghazi.

The CIA has repeatedly denied reports by CNN that the CIA has tried to prevent its personnel from talking to members of Congress investigating the September 2012 Benghazi attacks.

When it was first reported by CNN, Brennan released a letter showing that he strongly encouraged CIA operatives to cooperate with congressional investigators. Brennan even went so far as to directly answer a question from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers who, in a September 3 letter to the CIA director, specifically asked this question:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/15/politics/benghazi-cia-nondisclosure-agreements/


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Post by: apples on November 16, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
Congressman: Benghazi attackers knew location of ambassador's safe room

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The terrorists who attacked the Benghazi consulate last year knew the location of the safe room where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his security team sought shelter, according to a congressman who spoke for 90 minutes with the diplomatic security agent severely injured in the assault.

"He confirmed this - that it was a very well orchestrated, and well organized, almost a military operation, using military weapons and using military signals," the late Florida Rep. Bill Young said after meeting diplomatic security agent David Ubben at Walter Reed Medical Center last summer, when both were patients there.

After Young's death in mid-October, his widow, Beverly Young, gave Fox permission to use her husband?s comments about the Sep. 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the record.  The congressman had originally spoken to Fox on background last summer.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/15/benghazi-attackers-reportedly-knew-location-ambassador-safe-room/


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Post by: apples on November 17, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
CIA personnel asked to sign additional non-disclosure form after Benghazi attack

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At least five CIA personnel, including government contractors, were asked to sign a second non-disclosure agreement after the Benghazi terrorist attack, Fox News has learned.

While the three-page NDA, obtained by Fox News, does not contain specific references to the 2012 attack which killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, it does contain standard language that unauthorized disclosures could lead to "temporary loss of pay or termination" and "in some circumstances, constitute a criminal offense."

Sources not authorized to speak on the record, given the sensitivity of this week's closed-door testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, said the five CIA personnel did not feel pressure to sign the document. But they felt the request for a second non-disclosure agreement after the terrorist attack was odd and not standard practice because their original NDA's were still in effect, and only some in the group were undergoing contract modifications that might require a new NDA.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/16/cia-personnel-asked-to-sign-additional-non-disclosure-form-after-benghazi/

Truly amazing how they are shutting people down. It makes one wonder what they are hiding huh?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 17, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
Delta Force Marine awarded Navy Cross for fight at CIA annex in Benghazi

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n a unique battlefield commendation, a Marine Corps member of Delta Force has been awarded the nation?s second highest military honor for coming to the defense of Americans last year at a CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

Delta Force, a counterterrorism unit in the secretive Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), has been thought of as a strictly Army outfit. But it does take on qualified ?operators,? as they are called, from other services.

PHOTOS: Benghazi: The anatomy of a scandal

The Washington Times has reported that two Delta Force members were among a seven-person rescue team sent from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli to Benghazi on the night of Sept. 11, 2012. Their mission: rescue diplomats, security personnel and CIA employees pinned down by terrorists about a mile from the U.S. diplomatic mission where Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and aide Sean Smith were killed by al Qaeda-directed militants.

Two of those seven were Delta Force operators. The Times can now report that one was an Army soldier and the other a Marine.

The soldier was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, and the Marine received the Navy Cross for heroism.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/16/delta-force-marine-awarded-navy-cross-fight-cia-an/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 18, 2013, 11:52:16 AM
Western Investigators: Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated The US Ambassador In Libya

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James and Joan Moryalti Western Investigators In Libya: The Libyan Security provided documents to Washington which revealed involvement of Morsi Former President of Egypt and Brotherhood Organization for the assassination of ? Chris Stevens US Ambassador in Libya on 11/9/2012.

Barack Obama financed Brotherhood terrorist activities in Egypt. James and Joan Moryalti were interviewed on ?Voice Of Russia? Radio station and they are Western Investigators who stayed in Libya during the NATO invasion. They are a part of a non-governmental organizations. They are observers and informers of war crimes in Libya. They worked on a 100 days mission in Libya with the Libyan Tribes to find out the truth.

The Western Investigators revealed some facts to Voice of Russia Radio Station about the involvement of Brotherhood Organization in Egypt and Former President Morsi for the assassination of Chris Stevens US Ambassador in Libya. They confirmed that Al-Qaeda Organization owns Libya now.

They mentioned that the only way to save Libya from Extremists and Terrorists is through the Libyan Tribes who do not support The Islamist Extremists.

Through their observations, Joan and James confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood Organization practiced crimes in Libya and Egypt and these crimes were financed by Obama?s Administration. Mohamed Morsi Former President of Egypt is involved in planning the assassination of the US Ambassador.

James explained that Al-Qaeda Organization and their Branches like Ansar Al-Sharia Group, literally own Libya. The United States is trying to keep away these terrorist Groups to retrieve the US Surface-to- Air Rockets. There are hundreds of these Rockets which were stolen from US compounds by the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda in Libya during the attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi.

Benghazi Whistleblower Attorney Hundreds of Missiles Were Stolen from US Compounds 300x237 Western Investigators: Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated The US Ambassador In Libya

James added that this is a serious problem for the United States because these Rockets can be used in taking down friendly Aircraft, passengers Aircraft and everything all over the world.

James mentioned that everybody knows this. The Presidents of Chad, Nigeria and Algeria warned the NATO and the USA that if these weapons left Libya, they would represent a real threat to the entire world. This needs to be stopped! (said James).

Speaking about the weapons, Joan said that these weapons are in the hands of Al-Qaeda in Libya now. And they got information that some of these Rockets were moved through the borders with Chad and Nigeria and other borders. She also said these weapons called MANPADS or MPADS, and there are different names to these weapons.

But the American Rockets are unique and have a featured mark. Anyone in the world would recognize that these are US Rockets if they see them. According to Joan, these Rockets went out from America to Qatar then to Libya and it was the same day of the assassination of Chris Stevens the US Ambassador in Libya.

Joan indicated that all Islamic organizations in Libya belong to Al-Qaeda. They use different names to confuse the West . These are the Islamist groups which were hired by the NATO to overthrow Gaddafi. These same Islamist Groups were also hired and planted in Syria to overthrow the Syrian Regime.

According to James, Chris Stevens had an essential role in sending weapons to Extremists in Syria with the help of Abdul Hakim Belhag (The commander of the military wing of the Libyan revolution in Tripoli).

Town Hall published on 13/8/2013: (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/08/13/whistleblower-attorney-hundreds-of-missiles-were-stolen-from-benghazi-n1663362)
(http://www.emannabih.com/files/2013/11/US-missiles-stolen-in-Libya-are-in-the-hands-of-terrorists.png)

US missiles stolen in Libya are in the hands of terrorists 300x218 Western Investigators: Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated The US Ambassador In Libya

What were the weapons doing at the US diplomatic mission? The US was using Benghazi as conduit to covertly ship weapons to Syrian Terrorists.
(http://www.emannabih.com/files/2013/11/US-is-financing-and-providing-weapons-to-terrorists-in-Syria-.png)


US is financing and providing weapons to terrorists in Syria 300x152 Western Investigators: Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated The US Ambassador In Libya

Walid Shoebat wrote on 30/6/2013 : (http://shoebat.com/2013/06/30/benghazi-turning-a-blind-eye-for-the-blind-sheikh/) A video published on 13/9/2012 shot from a cell phone  at the scene of the attacks. In this video, gunmen are seen running toward the camera, toward other gunmen. At one point ? in Arabic which we have confirmed ? one approaching gunman says, ?Don?t Shoot us! We were sent by Mursi!?

Click here to watch the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3Hw6Quk60)

James spoke about one of the spies in the Libyan Tribes. This spy works for a Libyan Organization. James managed to get information from this spy who was serving diner to Chris Stevens and the Personal Representative of the Turkish Prime Minister, the night Chris was assassinated.

Stevens told the Turkish Representative that Turkey can use their influence in assisting the US to retrieve these Rockets. But the Turkish Representative told Chris that they are not going to assist the Americans in this regard.

http://www.emannabih.com/western-investigators-muslim-brotherhood-assassinated-the-us-ambassador-in-libya/



Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 18, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
5 CIA Contractors Describe Lull in Benghazi Fighting That Gave Time for Reinforcements

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House Intelligence subcommittee Chairman Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) said that for the first time, last week Congress got to speak behind closed doors with five CIA contractors who witnessed the Benghazi attack.

?Basically, the timelines are the same as far as when these activities started. There is a little discrepancy, between, you know, was it 9:32, 9:42. But, basically we know when it started. The big question has been was there any lull in the activity? And you know in Benghazi, after talking to these guys, it wasn?t unusual at night to hear gunfire or explosions or whatever,? Westmoreland said on CNN this morning.

?So once they got back to the annex, they did take some small arms fire, maybe an RPG, but you know, during the night, it was probably ? they were probably arranging for the attack that happened about 5:00. And so, yes, there was movement probably all night and it was probably some probing fire, but as far as an un ? just an ongoing gun battle, that was not true,? he continued.

The question of whether there was a lull in the firefight leads to the question of whether additional support could have been brought in.

?I don?t believe it was over after the first attack, but I do believe there was a lull in the fighting. Now, there was still probing, you know, guns being shot. As far as getting somebody else there, they had been a directive issued in August of 11 that basically tell the personnel in Libya, you are on your own. So we are looking into that directive to find out exactly who put that out and this was brought to our attention during the hearing,? the congressman said.

Westmoreland said if not for the security staff who were present, ?I believe every American in Benghazi would have been killed at the complex and at the annex.?

?And these guys were very heroic in what they did. And naturally, they were calling for all the support they could get. They were fixing to go into an unknown situation, seven of them. Sure, they were calling for support, but they were calling for the eyes of the drone ? the overhead intelligence and, you know, they had been in different places in the world and probably were used to having some different type of coverage, I?m sure they were asking for everything, you know, with the kitchen sink. But what the reality of that coming was ? I don?t think was ever there.?

Westmoreland added that he doesn?t think Congress is being stonewalled by the CIA.

?You know, it took us a long time. We want to try to get these witnesses back-to-back, and you can imagine some of these guys have been re-deployed. Some of them had retired. Some of them are working for other companies. They live in different parts of the United States, and different parts of the world, but we want to do something like an attorney would do preparing a case,? he said. ?We wanted to get all the FBI, all the CIA, all the State Department, we want to get those out and our committee has had 13 different committee hearings talking to these agencies. Then we wanted the eye witnesses to come in. The last two or three months has probably just been coordination of trying to get them here together because we didn?t want to do them one individually and let an air leak out, so we didn?t want to contaminate the witness. So that?s the reason it took so long.?

He acknowledged that the non-disclosure statements required of CIA operatives regarding Benghazi did seem suspicious.

?We are looking into that,? Westmoreland continued. ?Now, the fact that some of them were modifying their contracts, or maybe writing a new contract, due to a new non-disclosure security agreement is not that unusual. The ones that aren?t, we?re looking into that, we?re trying to find out why at that time they were asked to do this. Now the non-disclosure does say I believe in the ninth paragraph that they do have permission for unlawful or improper activity to report to the House Intelligence Committee and to the Senate Intelligence Committee.?

The chairman did reveal that the CIA contractors ?were really surprised at the lack of security at the mission facility.?

?They also testified that the people at the facility had been wanting help, requesting help, requesting additional security in fact, you know, they just couldn?t believe that those guys were over there as unprepared and unequipped as they were,? he said.

?I don?t know that it was a complete cover-up. I don?t think there was any doubt that they knew it was a coordinated attack. And you can see the results of that by the accuracy of the mortar fire that came in at five that morning. But as far as the compound goes, you know I don?t think there was ever any doubt of either there and I don?t know how they got their communications mixed up, but I think what ended up happening, you had the State Department trying to tell one story and you had the security ? the intelligence community that may have been trying to sell another story.?

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/11/18/5-cia-contractors-describe-lull-in-benghazi-fighting-that-gave-time-for-reinforcements/?print=1


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Post by: apples on November 19, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
Testimony gives more evidence administration's Benghazi claims were ?indefensible,? rep says

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New classified testimony on Benghazi by five CIA employees shows the administration's initial narrative about a protest gone awry was "indefensible," according to a lawmaker who took part in two classified sessions before the House Intelligence Committee.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Fox News that witnesses described how five mortars rained down on the CIA annex over 90 seconds during the attack -- with three direct hits. King argued that the details raise more questions about why the administration initially claimed the attack sprung from a protest over an anti-Islam film ? a narrative officials later abandoned. 

"It's indefensible what was said back on September 11, 12, and 13 in 2012, and what the facts really were," King said. Two other members of the intelligence committee involved in the briefings echoed King?s assessment.

The first two mortars missed, followed by three direct hits on the roof, killing two former Navy SEALs and severely injuring a diplomatic security agent and CIA contractor.

This testimony is seen by lawmakers as more overwhelming evidence that the attack was premeditated terrorism and that these facts were known almost immediately by then-CIA Director David Petraeus ? who downplayed the skill and planning needed to use mortars with such accuracy during his Sept. 14, 2012 briefing to Congress.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/testimony-gives-more-evidence-administration-benghazi-claims-were-indefensible/?intcmp=latestnews


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on November 19, 2013, 09:52:23 PM
The criminality of this event is no mystery.  What is, is why it is taking so long for Congress to make progress on this. 


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 20, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
'Pleading' distress calls made from US consulate on night of Benghazi attack

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State Department employees at the Benghazi compound knew they were in a death trap and made a series of radio distress calls to the CIA annex during the terror assault last year, according to congressional sources familiar with recent testimony on the attack from five CIA personnel.

Sources told Fox News that the radio calls, which were described in closed testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, were characterized as almost frantic, with State Department employees who knew they could not defend themselves "pleading" for their lives.

When the CIA team arrived from the annex about a mile away, they found the State Department employees without guns that could adequately protect them; one of the agents was found hiding in the consulate, apparently in a closet. The testimony lends more weight to repeated claims, in the wake of the attack, that the consulate was not adequately protected despite being located in a volatile and violent area prone to attack.

When the CIA personnel were asked for their reaction to the administration's initial explanation that an anti-Islam video and a demonstration gone awry were to blame for the attack, Fox News is told they were seething with anger because everything on the ground -- from their perspective -- showed it was a premeditated attack.

At least three of the five -- who were all in Benghazi -- responded to the scene that night. The witnesses testified that five mortars rained down on the annex in less than a minute. They pointed to those details as more evidence of a professionally trained team, describing the attack on the annex as akin to a professional hit on the operation in order to drive it out of Benghazi.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/20/pleading-distress-calls-made-from-us-consulate-on-night-benghazi-attack/


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Post by: apples on November 25, 2013, 11:11:54 AM
FBI Benghazi Investigator: Bureau Arrived Within Two Days After Attack

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The Dallas FBI's Assistant Special Agent in Charge Kevin, F. Kolbye, served as the On-Scene Commander for the investigation into the deaths of the four Americans killed on September 11, 2012, following the terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya. He insists that FBI officials were already on the scene in Benghazi within two days following the attack, despite news reports saying the FBI did not arrive until weeks later.

?We have people in a lot of other foreign countries who are legats. We have investigative teams that are well equipped,? Kolbye told a small audience of attendees at the GovSec West Conference in Dallas, Texas.

Also known as legal attach?s, ?legats? within the FBI?s international program have been around for almost 70 years. According to the FBI?s website, the bureau has special agents and other personnel stationed overseas to provide security to Americans back home via ?building relationships with principal law enforcement, intelligence, and security services around the globe that help ensure a prompt and continuous exchange of information.?

Located within the American Embassy in Algiers, an FBI legat office is situated to cover four different nations, including Libya. The Washington Post reported that while the FBI had legats in Agiers and Cairo, a team of FBI investigators could not get into Benghazi two days after the attack. Kolbye disputes this. ?We were there,? he said.

Kolbye discussed the difference between previous administration's and the current administration?s approach to handling overseas terrorist threats. He described the Bush administration as more ?military? and ?intelligence? action-oriented as opposed to the Obama administration. ?The current administration does more  ?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/11/24/FBI-Benghazi-Investigator-Says-Bureau-Was-There-Within-Two-Days-After-Attack


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Post by: apples on November 26, 2013, 02:00:19 PM
CIA personnel testify agency was on alert over 9/11 anniversary in Benghazi, before attack

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Personnel working at the CIA annex in Benghazi were well aware that the 9/11 anniversary last year could be a flashpoint, according to recent testimony, and a notice was even posted on a bulletin board at the annex warning of potentially increased hostilities against western targets during that period. 

The new details emerged during recent closed-door briefings by CIA personnel including former contractors, according to those familiar with the testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.   

The witnesses also voiced concern about Ambassador Chris Stevens? visit to Benghazi right before the 9/11 anniversary; Stevens was killed in the attack.

Given an understanding between the local CIA personnel and the nearby State Department operation that they would come to each other?s aid, the CIA on the ground in Benghazi was aware of Stevens? arrival in Benghazi on Sept. 10, according to the witnesses. But they told lawmakers they were puzzled as to why Stevens was there during a period of heightened threat without significant additional security.

The new testimony appears to challenge the findings of the Accountability Review Board -- known as the State Department ARB -- which explicitly stated that the Benghazi consulate and the State Department ?were well aware of the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks but at no time were there ever any specific, credible threats against the mission in Benghazi related to the September 11 anniversary."

Witnesses also testified that as early as August 2011, 13 months before the Benghazi terrorist attack, it was understood by CIA personnel at the annex that military assets were moving out of the region, and the CIA operation was potentially left exposed in the event of a terrorist strike.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/25/cia-personnel-testify-agency-was-on-alert-over-11-anniversary-in-benghazi/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 27, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
CBS: Lara Logan, producer ordered to take leave

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NEW YORK ? CBS ordered "60 Minutes" correspondent Lara Logan and her producer to take a leave of absence Tuesday following a critical internal review of their handling of the show's October story on the Benghazi raid, based on a report on a supposed witness whose story can't be verified.

The review, by CBS News executive Al Ortiz and obtained by The Associated Press, said the "60 Minutes" team should have done a better job vetting the story that featured a security contractor who said he was at the U.S. mission in Libya the night it was attacked last year.

Questions were quickly raised about whether the man was lying ? something "60 Minutes" should have better checked out before airing the story, the report said.

The report also said Logan should not have done the story in the first place after making a speech in Chicago a year ago claiming that it was a lie that America's military had tamed al-Qaida.

CBS News Chairman Jeff Fager, who is also the "60 Minutes" executive producer, said he had asked Logan and her producer, Max McClellan, to take a leave of absence of an undetermined length.

Fager said he prides himself on catching almost everything, "but this deception got through and it shouldn't have." There was no word about whether Fager will face any repercussions for his role.

http://bostonherald.com/business/media_marketing/2013/11/cbs_lara_logan_producer_ordered_to_take_leave


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 29, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
State Dept. quietly releases new docs, photos on Benghazi

video only at link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/2874523298001/state-dept-quietly-releases-new-docs-photos-on-benghazi/)

Virtual Reading Room..search for 'Benghazi' (http://foia.state.gov/Search/Search.aspx)


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 29, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Obscure tip line at center of Benghazi dispute has history of big payouts for terror intel

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WASHINGTON ?  A little-known federal program that doles out millions for tips on terrorists is now in the spotlight after lawmakers questioned how it was being employed in the Benghazi attack investigation.

State Department officials revealed recently, despite lawmakers being kept in the dark, that they?re quietly offering a multi-million dollar monetary sum through the ?Rewards for Justice? program for information leading to the suspects in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack.

The admission prompted Republicans to question how effective the hush-hush offer can really be. Despite the current dispute, a look back at the decades-old program shows it?s been used repeatedly in the past to help bring wanted terrorists to justice -- while making some fortunate tipsters very rich in the process.

The program is set up similar to the FBI?s ?Most Wanted? list, and has netted several accused high-profile terror leaders by offering huge sums for information on them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/28/rewards-for-justice-program-payouts/?intcmp=latestnews


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on November 30, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
Who's lying? Benghazi witnesses vs. State Dept.

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TEL AVIV ? None of the security officers inside the U.S. compound were armed during the Sept. 11, 2012, attack and one was barefoot while another two were ?riding around in a Land Cruiser,? according to the witness testimony given to a U.S. House panel.

Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., chairman of the House Intelligence Subcommittee, disclosed the details in an interview with Fox News earlier this week.

Unreported by Fox News is that the witness testimony of unarmed personnel directly contradicts the narrative in the extensive report released by the State Department-sponsored Accountability Review Board, or ARB.

The ARB report states the personnel inside the compound were armed and even describes how the security officers retrieved their weapons.

If the witness testimony of unarmed security officers is accurate, it would mean the ARB details are fabricated.

Aaron Klein?s ?Impeachable Offenses: The Case to Remove Barack Obama from Office? is available, autographed, at WND?s Superstore

On Tuesday, Westmoreland told ?The Kelly File? on Fox News that ?none? of the security officers were armed.

?What?s interesting is that when we heard this testimony that when they arrived at the facility, that none of the RSOs or the regional security officers that were there were armed,? the congressman said. ?In fact, one of ?em was barefoot. We had one individual testify that he saw two of them riding around in a Land Cruiser.

?And so, you know, none of them had a weapon,? Westmoreland continued. ?As far as they know, no shots were fired. And so, I mean, that is completely inadequate especially in Libya at the time of September the 11th.?

Westmoreland was commenting on closed-door testimony given to his intelligence committee.

It was the second time in recent days the politician made such comments.

Last week, Westmoreland told Fox News that State Department employees inside the mission ?were not armed, not kitted up and there hadn?t been any shots fired from our side as far as the testimony reveals.?

In contrast, the extensive ARB report specifically states personnel inside the mission protecting the compound and Ambassador Christopher Stevens were armed and had their security kits.

The ARB states all assistant regional security officers, or ARSOs, were armed during the attack.

Claims the ARB: ?The ARSOs were each armed with their standard issue sidearm pistol; their kits, generally consisting of body armor, radio and an M4 rifle, were in their bedroom/sleeping areas, in accord with Special Mission practice.?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/whos-lying-benghazi-witnesses-vs-state-dept/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 06, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
[Watch] Rep Trey Gowdy Hammers Press  8 Benghazi Questions They Have Never Asked

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Rep. Trey Gowdy, R ? SC focuses the spotlight on the press for their timidity and lack of efforts in pursuit of the truth regarding the occurrences in Benghazi. He details some questions that the press should know the answers to but do not and likely have never asked:

    Why was ambassador Chris Stevens in Benghazi?
    Why were the Americans the last flag flying in Benghazi, after the British had left and the Red Cross had been bombed?
    Why were requests for additional security denied?
    Why were no assets deployed during the siege?
    Do you know whether the president called any of our allies to request help?
    Why was Susan Rice picked to go on the Sunday talk shows and present the video story?
    Do you know the origin of the ?mythology? that the attack was spawned by a video?
    Gowdy remarks, ?No one has been arrested, no one has been prosecuted, no one has been ?brought to justice,? we don?t even have access to the witnesses.?

He makes it clear that this issue is not going to go away and that the press needs to perform their critical function in our government in the responsible manner in which it was created and start holding the administration accountable.

http://freepatriot.org/2013/12/04/watch-rep-trey-gowdy-hammers-press-8-benghazi-questions-never-asked/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 07, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
U.S. efforts stall in capturing suspects in 2012 Benghazi attacks, officials say

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U.S. officials say efforts have stalled to capture about a dozen people secretly charged in the 2012 attack on the American compound in Benghazi that claimed the lives of U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

The individuals have been charged in sealed criminal complaints filed in federal court by the U.S. Attorney?s Office for the District of Columbia. They include one of the suspected ringleaders of the attack, Ahmed Abu Khattala, a militia leader with ties to ?al-Qaeda,? said several U.S officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-efforts-stall-in-capturing-suspects-in-2012-benghazi-attacks-officials-say/2013/12/05/4847afe4-5dd0-11e3-95c2-13623eb2b0e1_story.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 10, 2013, 11:38:47 AM
FITTON: A closer look at the Benghazi lie

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The Obama State Department has finally released a second round of photos revealing the harrowing devastation wrought by a terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012.

The new photographs depict rampant damage to the consulate. They show charred walls, smoldering fires, Arabic graffiti defacing exterior walls, and scattered debris throughout. The extent of the damage would lead any reasonably serious person to conclude that this was a cold, calculated attack, carefully coordinated to mark the 11th anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001. Unfortunately for the American people, the Obama-Clinton-Rice cabal that led to the Benghazi cover-up was far more interested in political-damage control than serious damage assessment.

Let?s be clear: The photos clearly reveal that the terrorist attack on the Benghazi consulate was not some spur-of-the-moment prank pulled by a couple of hyped-up Libyans coming off a YouTube binge, as top Obama administration officials led the American people to believe. It was most certainly not, as President Obama himself suggested to the entire world via the United Nations, the result of ?a crude and disgusting video [that] sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world.?

Hyped-up hotheads are not normally armed with rocket-propelled grenades, hand grenades, AK-47s, FN F2000 NATO assault rifles, gun trucks and mortars. They don?t launch carefully staged five-hour assaults on well-fortified compounds surrounded by a 9-foot outer wall topped by barbed wire and augmented by barriers, steel drop bars and other security upgrades. They rarely leave behind the kind of devastation depicted in the photos Judicial Watch has obtained.

In short, the newly released photos, along with those released last June, reveal not only a massive attack ? they reveal the big lie as well. There is no other way to put it: When Mr. Obama, Secretary of then-State Hillary Rodham Clinton and then-U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice launched their Benghazi cover-up tour in the hours, weeks and months after the attack, they knew they were lying. They had received firsthand reports as the assault was underway. They had been given continual updates by top military brass asking for guidance from the Oval Office. They had also seen the revealing photos Judicial Watch obtained, along with ?hours of video? the Obama State Department?s own Accountability Review Board has acknowledged having watched.
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That?s right: Despite being forced to release the 30 new Benghazi documents to Judicial Watch, the State Department has continued to withhold the videos reviewed by the board. A Justice Department attorney told us that the State Department is withholding all videos in full, citing privacy and law enforcement exemptions. On top of that, a December 2012 article at Breitbart.com, reported that there was live drone footage two hours into the attack on the consulate. It further reported that there were closed-circuit security cameras on the outer walls of the consulate, and one State official said that the main-gate camera revealed ?a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound? at 9:40 the night of the attack.

So one is left to wonder: Why the continuing cover-up? What do the ?hours of video? reveal that the Obama administration desperately does not want the American people to know? Are the videos enough to shake the foundations behind an already foundering presidency? Or, perhaps, prevent a wannabe president from achieving her dream of Oval Office power? We now know that Mr. Obama lied to the American people with his pledge ?If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance.? Does the Benghazi video footage prove conclusively that he also knowingly lied to the entire world from his elevated position on the U.N. dais?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/9/fitton-a-closer-look-at-the-benghazi-lie/


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 10, 2013, 11:54:17 AM
'Allah-u-Akbar': State Department unclassifies first official photos from aftermath of Benghazi attack, including jihadi graffiti left behind

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Obama knew. State knew. The DoD knew. And they covered it up. They watched and listened while Americans were murdered, and they did nothing. They pretended it was nothing to insure Obama's re-election. Allahu akbar.

Where was Obama on the night of Benghazi? He knew it was al Qaeda and blamed a youtube user. He jailed the youtube user. Impeach. Where are the indictments on Benghazi? Three newly revealed intelligence reports reveal warnings about Al-Queda and Benghazi months before the Ambassador was killed. The State Department knew about the reports but turned down security requests for diplomats anyway.

    State Department releases more photos from Benghazi aftermath, including 'Allah-u-Akbar' jihad graffiti By David Martosko, The Daily Mail, November 19, 2013

    Newly released photos taken after the 2012 terror attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya show a car on fire, a burned-out building, ransacked rooms, a devastated kitchen and Arabic-language graffiti ? including two different spray-paint scrawls reading 'God is great.' [sic]

    The conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch published the pictures online this week following the State Department's November 12 decision to release them under the terms of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit the group filed in February.

    Judicial Watch released another set of similar photos, also the product of FOIA pressure, in June.

    The Islamist slogan 'Allah-u-Akbar,' meaning 'God is great,' appears scrawled on the outsides of buildings depicted in both sets of photographs.
    The Daily Mail gets it wrong. Allahu Akbar is Islamic not "Islamist (how silly). And it means Allah is greater (as in greater than your G-d).

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/11/allah-u-akbar-state-department-unclassifies-first-official-photos-from-aftermath-of-benghazi-attack-including-jihadi-graf.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 11, 2013, 11:33:00 AM
Benghazigate: Where are the Drone Videos?

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One of the most startling revelations of late was that Congress has not seen the videos made by the Predator/Reaper remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) that were flying during that event we now call Benghazigate.

This detail is one of many arising from the recent classified hearings held by the House Intelligence Committee in which five eye-witnesses to the event gave testimony for the first time (A discussion of the apparent impetus for these hearings may be found here.)

Early reports on the event do not reference overhead aircraft (Including the first "official" briefing and the first [pdf] "official" testimony.)

Sharyl Attkisson appears to have been the first journalist to (Caution-autoplay) report (20 Oct.) on those videos and aircraft a month after the event:

    ...an unmanned Predator drone was...over...Benghazi, and...[it] and other...aircraft apparently observed the final hours of the [event].

A few days later the CIA fed reliable Administration lapdog, David Ignatius, a timeline (A copy of which does not appear to exist on the interwebs) in which Ignatius reports:

    11:11 p.m.: An unarmed...drone arrives....[It] had been diverted from a mission over Darnah (sic), about 90 minutes away. But without weapons, it can't help much.

The, apparent, first "official" reference to drones appears in State's ARB report (18 Dec,) on p.25 of the report:

    ...a remotely piloted...aircraft...arrived over the [Compound] shortly before [Woods'] team departed. A second...relieved the first, and monitored the eventual evacuation of personnel from the Annex...on...September 12.

The Senate Report offers just the same information about the diverted aircraft.

The first call for release of the video came on 2 November 2012 by Nick Mottern at Truthout.

The aircraft referenced in the reports were a part of an incredibly complex and remarkable system.  Developed in combat over more than 15 years, this system of flyers, intelligence personnel, and operators team up in constantly-changing, global ways to support specific missions, frontline troops, and agents on the ground.

Most importantly, everything that is done is documented and preserved, and the data from almost every mission is recorded and logged.  The video, audio, and mission details still exist

RPAs almost always fly in direct support of a unit on the ground and in close coordination with a specified command center.  All of these missions, both CIA and Air Force, are routed through common operations and intelligence hubs that are globally dispersed.

The MQ-1B Predator system supporting the Libya operation would have consisted of a Launch and Recovery Element (In this case, Crete, where we believe the Predator was based) for forward based take-offs/landings and maintenance, a Ground Control Station for the mission crew at AFRICOM HQ or at CIA HQ  or elsewhere, a defined set of supporting intelligence resources, and a global, satellite-and-ground-based fiber-optic communications architecture.

RPA allocations are hotly debated and ultimately decided by the Joint Staff.  All told, the entire team in this operation would easily amount to dozens of Air Force/Agency personnel.

The RPA system with its supporting intelligence architecture is not perfect, but it is pretty damn good.

The Predators in question might have been supplied by a National Guard unit, and certainly would have been flown by CIA personnel.

Last May, a caller who claimed to be a member of a Predator RPA crew that flew over Benghazi on the night of the event detailed his actions during the event to Sean Hannity on his radio program here (Annoying Blaze pop-up for text version,) and  here (YouTube [Autoplay]) version, and here (Radio [Autoplay]) version (Starting at 16:30.)

The caller described in detail the drone's arriving on scene above the Compound after the initial assault and then its subsequent moving to the Annex.  He also then described the relieving of the drone his crew was operating by a drone being operated by another crew.

His extensive knowledge of RPA operations leaves no question as to his veracity, and he implies that he was active in the military at the time and supporting an "Agency."

The key point of the revelation is that not just that audio and video tapes of those events exist; that audio and video record was available to multiple command centers, commanders, and decision makers in Crete, Europe, the US, and, indeed, around the world in real time during the events at the Annex.

We disagree with a reporter who said (Annoying pop-up ad): "Depending on where they were coming from, it could have taken hours more before they could start sending officials images of what was going on."

That is simply not the way the RPA architecture works.  Any US command center worldwide that routinely receives any RPA feed could have been provided, in a manner of minutes, access to the live Benghazi feeds, and that certainly would include the White House Situation Room.

Readers may easily recall that all of us were so very graciously provided with photos of Mr. Obama watching a live RPA feed from overhead the Pakistani Compound during the Bin Laden takedown -- they were watching that takedown over the identical network being used over Benghazi.

Why, then, do you and we ask (rhetorically, surely,) can we not see similar photos of Mr. Obama and all of his National Security Band watching the RPA video on the night of Benghazi?

Devin Nunes (R-CA) asks about those videos here at 0:50 (Caution-autoplay) saying "just provide the videos."

In pursuing this matter, among the questions that must be asked the next times that hearings are held are:

What mission was it that the Predators were supporting on the ground in Libya?  Predators and Reapers are very valuable intelligence and attack assets and are highly coveted by combatant commanders.   To have two operating in Libya almost a year after the major hostilities had ceased means that something was going on.  What was it?

Many news reports confirm that the drones were flying over rebel camps near or in Derna at the very easternmost point in Libya.

There may or may not have been Special Forces on the ground near the observed areas, but we are not sure that this information needs to escape from the classified hearings.

What was the actual time the first drone went off its original station?  What was the time (Ignatius says 11:11) after the initial assault when it arrived on station over Benghazi?

(The Hannity caller said he saw perhaps "hundreds" of people in the compound on arrival -- that would be the mob after Woods and team departed, and his report does not comport with all other reports.)

What was the intelligence support that was provided to initiate the original mission?  Who was the provider of the support?

Who gave the order to launch the Predator on the original launch?  Who ordered the diversion?  When was the diversionary order given?

These last questions bring closer attention to the role of then AFRICOM commander, Gen. Carter Ham, because much confusion exists about what he knew about the assault and when it was that he first learned about the assault and the drone operations.

The Hannity caller indicated that he knew in advance of his mission that there was an ongoing attack in Benghazi.  We doubt that the launchers knew before launching that something "might be going down or is going down."  The timelines of events and of flight times do not support that contention.

Where, exactly, were the Predators based?

This basing location of the Predators is incidental, but important.

Given the normal flight speeds of Predators (100-120 knots), we suggest that the only logical basing location to support Benghazi operation would be Crete, probably based at Chania in western Crete ~2-3 hours flight time away (During the Libya war the US flew Predators out of western Crete.)

That is the only logical field in the area.  That location partially explains why they were unarmed (it is a civil field,) and the other explanation being the complexity of Greek politics.  Malta or Italy/Sicily would be almost twice as far away, greatly reducing the on-station time for the missions.

The answers to these questions would go a long way in providing the American people a better understanding of the events on the night of September 11-12, 2012 in Benghazi.

However, the core question remains: Where are the videos?

These videos and audio chats have never been publicly released, and, to our knowledge, they have never been provided to Congress.

Any claim of classification is patently absurd.  They could be declassified by a competent authority in less than an hour by deleting audio and masking data on the screen.

A good place for the House Intelligence Committee to start asking these, and other, questions would be the Hannity caller and the Commanding Officer of whatever unit it was that owned the drones for which he was a sensor operator.

There are too many people who saw the events in Libya as they unfolded on that night and next morning for those events to be forever covered up: It is all on tape.

Many of these young airmen will talk about that tape, apolitically, if given the chance.

We sincerely hope that the Committee will give them this chance.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2013/12/benghazigate_where_are_the_drone_videos.html


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 12, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
Stonewall: State ordered Benghazi security firm to avoid media

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The British security firm that failed to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, from a terrorist attack a year ago that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens was told by the State Department to avoid the media, the latest example of stonewalling over the attack.

In newly uncovered emails received by the public watchdog group Judicial Watch, State was notified that the firm, Blue Mountain Group, was being pressed for answers about the surprise attack. Instead of giving the group the green light to answer the media, State ordered the firm to go into hiding.

?Thank you so much for informing us about the media inquiries. We notified our public affairs personnel that they too may receive some questions. We concur with you that at the moment the best way to deal with the inquiries is to either be silent or provide no comments,? said an email from a State contracting officer.
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Some in Congress have spent over a year trying to get full answers about the attack from State. Judicial Watch said it just received the documents, and there will be more likely to follow.

?The Obama administration has worked hard to keep details of the attack ? and the negligence that led to it ? from the American public, but JW has gone to court and filed a number of public records requests to expose the truth,? said Judicial Watch in releasing the email details.

Judicial Watch further explained what they received:

    ?The latest batch of documents obtained by JW include a scandalous email from a State Department contracting officer named Jan Visintainer to an unidentified executive at Blue Mountain Group (BMG), the inexperienced foreign company hired to protect the U.S. mission in Benghazi. In the email, dated September 26, 2012, Visintainer writes: ?Thank you so much for informing us about the media inquiries. We notified our public affairs personnel that they too may receive some questions. We concur with you that at the moment the best way to deal with the inquiries is to either be silent or provide no comments.?

    ?Some of the records were redacted or simply not included. For instance Visintainer received a cryptic email from a redacted source with an attachment that was not provided to JW by the State Department. The exchange, just two days before the attack, received a lot of attention from both the State Department and BMG, which could indicate that perhaps it contained a more specific concern or warning about the U.S. mission?s vulnerability.

    ?Last month JW released the Benghazi security contract that paid BMG, a virtually unknown and untested British company, $794,264 for nearly 50,000 guard hours. The Benghazi security deal had not been available to the public because it was not listed as part of the large master State Department contract that covers protection for overseas embassies. JW had to take legal action to get it.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/stonewall-state-ordered-benghazi-security-firm-to-avoid-media/article/2540583


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: GeronL on December 12, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
it continues

A congresswoman refused to answer a question about it the other day


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 14, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
'Stand down': CIA Benghazi team clash led to controversial order

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WASHINGTON ? CIA officers revealed a clash over how quickly they should go help the besieged U.S. ambassador during the 2012 attack on an outpost in Libya, and a standing order for them to avoid violent encounters, according to a congressman and others who heard their private congressional testimony or were briefed on it.

The Obama administration has been dogged by complaints that the White House, Pentagon and State Department may not have done enough before and during the attack to save U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, and by accusations that it later engaged in a cover-up.

PHOTOS: Benghazi: The anatomy of a scandal

One allegation was that U.S. officials told the CIA to ?stand down? and not go to the aid of the Americans. Top CIA and Defense and State Department officials have denied that.

The testimony from the CIA officers and contractors who were in Libya on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, bolster those denials, but also shed light on what may have led to the delay of up to 30 minutes to respond, according to the varying accounts.

None of those who testified said a quicker response would have saved the lives of Stevens and communications specialist Sean Smith at the temporary diplomatic facility.

The senior CIA officers in charge in Libya that day told Congress of a chaotic scramble to aid Stevens and others who were in the outpost when it was attacked by militants on the 11th anniversary of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Those CIA leaders decided they and their security contractor team should wait before rushing from their annex into the violence roughly a mile away. They said they were trying to first gather intelligence and round up Libyan militia allies armed with heavy weapons, according to the testimony by the CIA officers in charge.

Some CIA security contractors disagreed with their bosses and wanted to move more quickly.

Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, who heads a House intelligence subcommittee that interviewed the employees, said he believes this disagreement was the source of allegations that the CIA ordered security personnel to ?stand down? and not help the people inside the diplomatic mission, and perhaps was the source of accusations the administration failed to

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/14/stand-down-cia-benghazi-team-clash-led-controversi/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 19, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/18/closed-testimony-appears-to-bolster-claims-benghazi-response-inadequate/?intcmp=latestnews



Closed testimony appears to bolster claims Benghazi response inadequate

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The closed-door testimony of CIA staff and contractors appears to bolster claims that more could have been done by U.S. personnel to respond to the scene of the Benghazi terror attack.

Recent media reports have contradicted claims that U.S. personnel were given stand-down orders and kept from responding to the scene -- but sources on the ground that night tell Fox News that not only were they given, but they were given in multiple locations, as Fox News has previously reported.

?The whole issue about stand down orders is not an issue,? said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee. ?There clearly were stand down orders given to people not only in Benghazi but also in Tripoli and the State Department's counterterrorism team.?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on December 20, 2013, 12:04:57 AM
Why do you even bother with all this?  Congress is completely inept on this entire subject matter.  There is no story here.  Issa is Shemp's twin brother.  Yes, I always thought of Shemp as the biggest idiot of all the stooges.

This is a totally dead story.  As long as Hilary remains a viable candidate for 2016, this story will have no blood coursing through its veins.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on December 23, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
Rice: No time to think about Benghazi 'false controversy'

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/193848-susan-rice-no-time-to-think-about-false-controversy-on-benghazi

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National Security Advisor Susan Rice expressed no regrets over her interviews following the assault on the American consolate in Benghazi, Libya, saying she does not have time to think about an issue blown out of proportion. [WATCH VIDEO]

?I don?t have time to think about a false controversy,? Rice said in an interview that aired Sunday night on CBS?s ?60 Minutes.? ?In the midst of all of the swirl about things like talking points, the administration?s been working very, very hard across the globe to review our security of our embassies and our facilities. That?s what we ought to be focused on.?

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Rice became mired in a controversy that stood in the way of her becoming secretary of state after she called the attack in Benghazi spontaneous on the Sunday morning talk shows, while it later came out that it was a planned attack. The administration says she was expressing the intelligence at the time.

Correspondent Lesley Stahl asked Sunday why then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did not appear on the shows instead; Rice defended her.


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Post by: apples on December 29, 2013, 10:52:46 AM
House Report: Al Qaeda in Maghreb and Al Qaeda-Linked Ansar al-Sharia Did Benghazi

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(CNSNews.com) - A congressional report released Tuesday on the terrorist attack on the U.S. State Department compound in Benghazi, Libya says there is ?ample evidence that the attack was planned and intentional? and that al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia joined in carrying it out.

The report also notes that al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia took credit for the attack while it was still unfolding, and that the State Department reported this at the time to other government agencies, including the White House.

?The volatile security environment erupted on September 11, 2012, when militias composed of al Qaeda-affiliated extremists attacked U.S. interests in Benghazi,? says the report.

?The U.S. government immediately had information that the attacks were conducted by al Qaeda-affiliated terrorists, yet Administration officials downplayed those connections, and focused on the idea that provocation for violence resulted from a YouTube video,? says the report that was produced by the Republican staffs of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the House Foreign Affairs Committee, the House Judiciary Committee, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and the House Armed Services Committee.

?The attackers were members of extremist groups, including the Libya-based Ansar al-Sharia (AAS) and al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)," says the report.

The report includes a timeline of the attack, which began at 9:42 p.m. Benghazi time or 3:42 p.m. Washington, D.C. time. The timeline says attackers from unspecified ?other groups? also joined with members of Ansar al-Sharia and Al Qaeda in the Maghreb in conducting the atta

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/house-report-al-qaeda-maghreb-and-al-qaeda-linked-ansar-al-sharia-did-benghazi


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Post by: apples on December 29, 2013, 10:54:44 AM
Congress, in bipartisan tone, disputes report Al Qaeda not involved in deadly Benghazi attack

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/29/congress-in-bipartisan-tone-disputes-report-al-qaeda-not-involved-in-benghazi/

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House lawmakers on Sunday disputed a new report that concludes Al Qaeda played no role in the fatal 2012 terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya.

The report, published Saturday in The New York Times, found no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had a role in the assault that killed four Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, and that it appeared that the attack was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made anti-Islamic video, as the Obama administration first claimed.

?I dispute that, and the intelligence community, to a large volume, disputes that,? Michigan GOP Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told ?Fox News Sunday.? 


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Post by: apples on December 29, 2013, 11:20:34 AM
GOP congressman blasts NY Times Benghazi claims as 'misleading'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/28/gop-congressman-blasts-ny-times-benghazi-claims-as-misleading/

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A top congressional Republican is saying a new report that concludes Al Qaeda did not carry out the 2012 attack on the U.S diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, is ?misleading.?

The new report published Saturday in the New York Times concludes that there was no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault that killed four Americans on September 11, 2012, and that it appeared that the attack was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made anti-Islamic video, as the Obama administration first claimed.

New York Rep. Peter King, member and former chairman of the House?s Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told Fox News the argument that the most overtly anti-Western militia, Ansar al-Shariah ? not Al Qaeda ? led the attack is an academic argument over semantics, considering Ansar al-Shariah is widely believed to be an affiliate terror group of Al Qaeda.

?It?s misleading,? King said. ?It?s a distinction without a difference.?



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Post by: apples on December 30, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
Witnesses: Benghazi Attack Coordinated by Terror Commanders on Ground

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/12/30/Witnesses-Benghazi-Attack-Coordinated-By-Terror-Commanders-On-The-Ground

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Witnesses to the September 11, 2012, Benghazi attack claim that a recent New York Times' (NYT) report downplaying terrorist involvement is "completely false" and assert that there were terror commanders on the ground directing movements.

Witnesses to the attack--still being muzzled by the Obama administration--anonymously told Fox News: "It was a coordinated attack. It is completely false to say anything else. ... It is completely a lie."

An unnamed special operator added:

    Guys were coming into the compound, moving left, moving right...and using IMT (individual movement techniques). ... That's not a spontaneous attack. One guy was shooting, one guy was running. There are guys watching the gates. ... The bosses on the ground were pointing, commanding and coordinating--that is a direct action planned attack.


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Post by: apples on December 31, 2013, 12:39:12 PM
Times Ignores Evidence of Al Qaeda Link to Benghazi

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/times-ignores-evidence-al-qaeda-link-benghazi_772386.html?page=3

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Are the officials who spoke to THE WEEKLY STANDARD about al Qaeda's involvement in the Benghazi attacks wrong? And those who talked to CNN, the Wall Street Journal, and others? What about the Democratic congressman on the House Intelligence Committee who declared that "the intelligence indicates that al Qaeda was involved?"

And what about that previous major investigative piece in the New York Times, the one that reported the involvement of a key al Qaeda affiliate and international terrorist groups? Was it wrong? Should we expect a correction?


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Post by: apples on December 31, 2013, 12:40:39 PM
'Completely false': Sources on ground in Benghazi challenge NYT report

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/30/completely-false-sources-on-ground-in-benghazi-challenge-nyt-report/

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Fifteen months after the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi which killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, the narrative of the attack continues to be shaped, and reshaped, by politicians and the press.

But a New York Times report published over the weekend has angered sources who were on the ground that night. Those sources, who continue to face threats of losing their jobs, sharply challenged the Times? findings that there was no involvement from Al Qaeda or any other international terror group and that an anti-Islam film played a role in inciting the initial wave of attacks.

?It was a coordinated attack. It is completely false to say anything else. ? It is completely a lie,? one witness to the attack told Fox News.

Sean Smith, a foreign service officer, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were also killed in the 2012 assault.

The controversial Times report has stirred a community that normally remains out of sight and wrestles with how to reveal the truth, without revealing classified information.

Fox News has learned that the attack on the consulate started with fighters assembling to conduct an assault.

"Guys were coming into the compound, moving left, moving right?and using IMT (individual movement techniques). ? That?s not a spontaneous attack,? one special operator said.

"One guy was shooting, one guy was running. There are guys watching the gates. ? The bosses on the ground were pointing, commanding and coordinating -- that is a direct action planned attack."


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Post by: apples on January 01, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
Ex-WH Spokesman: Bad 'Parsing' to Believe I Said Al-Qaeda Part of Benghazi Attack

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/12/31/Ex-WH-spokesman-Previous-claims-Al-Qaeda-involved-in-Benghazi-attack-a-parsing-game

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Ex-White House National Security spokesman Tommy Vietor said on Tuesday that reconciling his previous statements of Al Qaeda involvement in the terrorist attack on Benghazi?as compared to claims by the New York Times? David Kirkpatrick that Al Qaeda was not involved?is nothing more than a ?parsing game.?

Vietor, who left the White House earlier this year to form consulting firm Fenway Strategies with President Barack Obama?s longtime speechwriter Jon Favreau, told this reporter via Twitter that pointing out the contradiction between his past and current stances on who is behind the attack in Benghazi is just a "game."

The Times? Kirkpatrick attempted to downplay the connections of Al Qaeda-linked


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Post by: apples on January 01, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
Why do you even bother with all this?  Congress is completely inept on this entire subject matter.  There is no story here.  Issa is Shemp's twin brother.  Yes, I always thought of Shemp as the biggest idiot of all the stooges.

This is a totally dead story.  As long as Hilary remains a viable candidate for 2016, this story will have no blood coursing through its veins.
I bother because there is still interest in this topic. Yes they will try to shove this more under the rug than they have for Hillarys sake. Yes congress is inept/unwilling and we will probably never get the real story from this WH.

If Benghazi isn't such a big deal, why is the media  trying to cover for Hillary?(yes I know they want her as the next prez) still it makes me wonder how bad this hurts her. They must see the polls on this. The media will continue to cover for her. Heck they might even get away with it. 


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Post by: apples on January 01, 2014, 07:56:35 PM
N.Y. Times Benghazi Whitewash Backfires, Spotlights Obama/Clinton Coverup

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/17289-n-y-times-benghazi-whitewash-backfires-spotlights-obama-clinton-coverup

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In its clumsy attempt to absolve President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from responsibility for the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, the New York Times has reignited intense scrutiny and debate over the fiasco and the administration?s lies and cover-ups in its aftermath.

On December 28, the Times opened a new chapter in the ongoing furor over ?Benghazigate? with an extensive, 7,000-word article by David D. Kirkpatrick entitled, ?A Deadly Mix in Benghazi.? According to Kirkpatrick, his article is the result of ?months of investigation by The New York Times,? which ?turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault.? Moreover, he says, the September 11, 2012 attack, which resulted in the murder of four Americans ? Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods ? ?was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.?

It is not surprising that the Times, which has staunchly supported both President Obama and Hillary Clinton, would come to their aid once more, producing a piece that echoes and affirms the administration?s Benghazi talking points, even though the facts have discredited those talking points.

A number of critics have already pointed out that Kirkpatrick?s latest article is contradicted by earlier Times reports which acknowledge the al-Qaeda ties of some of the Libyan jihadist militias (that the Obama administration, incidentally, was supporting). See, for instance, Aaron Klein at World Net Daily here and here, and Thomas Joscelyn at The Weekly Standard here.

It is also contradicted by a detailed report prepared by the Library of Congress entitled, Al-Qaeda in Libya: A Profile, issued in August, 2012, the month before the fatal Benghazi attack.

It is also interesting that the Times would once again try to lay the blame for the attack on a spontaneous riot incited by the anti-Muslim video and protests over the video in faraway Cairo, Egypt. This, of course, is a resurrection of the Barack Obama/Susan Rice/Hillary Clinton false narrative issued immediately after the fatal attack, which was an effort to cover up the fact that the event was a highly coordinated terrorist attack carried out by some of the very jihadists the administration was arming and aiding. The spontaneous riot narrative was also aimed at diverting attention from the fact that Secretary Clinton had failed to heed repeated warnings from Ambassador Stevens and State Department security personnel about the escalating danger in Benghazi and their appeals for additional security.

However, no credible evidence has been produced to support the claim that the anti-Muslim video precipitated, or contributed to, the Benghazi attack. And an in-depth analysis by Agincourt Solutions, a prominent social media monitoring firm, could find none of the alleged Internet traffic and postings in the Benghazi region that were supposedly responsible for stirring up the attackers.

Pre-emptive Defense for Hillary?s 2016 Presidential Run

The most transparent reason for the Times?  flimsy Benghazi whitewash is that the paper was trying to divert attention from Secretary Clinton?s central role in the whole sordid affair, so that a festering Benghazigate scandal would not derail her White House hopes for 2016. Mrs. Clinton and her media cheerleading section hoped Benghazi had been laid to rest with the report


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Post by: apples on January 07, 2014, 10:31:57 AM
Exclusive--Benghazi Victims' Families, Conservative Leaders to Boehner: Install Select Committee Now

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/06/Exclusive-Benghazi-victim-families-leaders-to-Boehner-Stop-obstruction-install-select-committee-now

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Three family members of the victims of the Benghazi terrorist attack and scores of conservative and military leaders are kicking off 2014 by demanding that House Speaker John Boehner install a select committee, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and security officers Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed during the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya on Sept. 11, 2012.

In the letter to Boehner, which was delivered on early Monday afternoon and provided exclusively to Breitbart News, Sean Smith?s mother, Pat Smith, and uncle, Michael Ingmire, along with Tyrone Woods? father, Charles Woods, joined the call for a select committee to investigate the Benghazi scandal. Other notable signers include former Rep. Allen West (R-FL), conservative leader Ginni Thomas of Liberty Consulting, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton, retired Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, Freedom Center president David Horowitz, and scores of other military and conservative movement leaders.

?We write to express our grave concern over the failure of your House of Representatives to extract the truth from the Obama administration concerning the attack on our diplomatic and intelligence facilities in Benghazi, Libya; and, the brutal deaths of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, U.S. Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and security officers Ty Woods and Glen Doherty,? the coalition wrote to Boehner.

Specifically, a House select committee on Benghazi would be similar to the Watergate select committee formed in the U.S. Senate during the scandal that took down President Richard Nixon. It would be a focused committee with members from both the Democrat and Republican parties and staffed with the proper resources to conduct a thorough investigation of the matter. Thus far, Boehner has had five separate House committees investigating the matter that have not succeeded. He has also publicly opposed the creation of a select committee, saying he does not think it is necessary.


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Post by: apples on January 07, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
GOP Leadership: Benghazi Victims' Families 'Absurd and Inaccurate' in Select Committee Demand

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/06/GOP-LEADERSHIP-Benghazi-victims-families-conservatives-absurd-and-inaccurate-in-select-committee-demand

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An anonymous aide for House GOP leadership told the Washington Examiner Monday it believes three family members of the victims of the Benghazi terrorist attack and other conservative movement and military community leaders are being untruthful in their demand for a select committee investigation into Benghazi.

The unidentified aide would work for either Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, or Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, per the Examiner's identification.

Pat Smith, the mother of murdered Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and Charles Woods, the father of murdered security officer Tyrone Woods, along with Smith?s uncle Michael Ingmire, joined scores of conservative movement leaders in demanding Boehner install a select committee.

A bill that would do so is sitting in the House with 179 cosponsors including lead sponsor Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA), more than a substantial majority of the House GOP conference. Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy will not schedule a vote on the matter, despite overwhelming support from the conservative movement, victims? families, the American people, and the GOP conference.

Instead, an anonymous House GOP leadership aide responded to Monday?s letter, which was exclusively reported by Breitbart News, to the Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard by accusing the coalition writing the letter of making false statements in the letter regarding the GOP leadership?s incapacity to lead an investigation into Benghazi.


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Post by: apples on January 07, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
CNN?s Jake Tapper says Hillary will have to answer for Benghazi

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/07/cnns-jake-tapper-says-hillary-will-have-to-answer-for-benghazi/

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CNN anchor Jake Tapper said Monday that if or when Hillary Clinton runs for president, ?there will have to be some questions answered about [Benghazi].?

Tapper spoke with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Monday about the former Secretary of State?s prospects for the presidency. One of the few mainstream media reporters to challenge the Obama administration?s deflections over the deadly September 2012 attack in Libya, Tapper noted that it won?t be easy for Clinton to shed her Benghazi baggage on her way to the White House:

    HEWITT: How in the world does she run with the Benghazi timeline on the Etch-a-Sketch that?s been shaken?

    TAPPER: I don?t ? obviously she can?t. I mean, if she makes the decision to run, there will have to be ? and I?m sure her advisers know this, they are smart people ? there will have to be some . . . questions answered about it, if not in one big, long, meaty piece then I think over and over and over again. I think it is something that there are a lot of questions that remain about it. For me specifically, you know my coverage of Benghazi has focused on the State Department?s refusal to take seriously enough the request for added security from diplomatic and security experts on the ground in Libya throughout the year leading up to the Benghazi attack. So there are a lot of questions, and I?m sure if she runs she?ll have to answer them.

Clinton has tried to convince the American people that the Benghazi scandal is a false


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Post by: apples on January 08, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
Letter questions whether Boehner was briefed on Benghazi ops

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/08/letter-questions-whether-boehner-was-briefed-on-benghazi-ops/

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A letter from three relatives of the Benghazi attack victims is renewing questions over whether House Speaker John Boehner was briefed on covert operations in Libya and whether a proposed ?Select Committee? might reveal politically damaging details.

At the same time, new reports and documents, reviewed by Fox News, are providing a broader picture of complex weapons-collection efforts in Libya ? months after concerns were first raised that the U.S. was facilitating the movement of weapons, from Libya via Turkey, to Syrian rebels.

?Some analysts believe your inaction and passivity towards getting to the truth concerning Benghazi is because you were briefed on the intelligence and special operations activities in Libya,? the letter to Boehner said. It was signed by the father of former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, the mother and uncle of Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and 70 others including retired generals.   


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Post by: apples on January 08, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
Benghazi mom: 'Why won't Hillary talk?' [VIDEO]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/07/benghazi-mom-why-wont-hillary-talk-video/

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The mother of an American killed during the terrorist attack in Benghazi continues to pressure top Obama administration officials ? particularly former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ? for answers.

?If it?s not Hillary, why doesn?t somebody tell me something?? she asked Tuesday on Fox News.

Patricia Smith is the mother of Sean Smith, an American diplomat killed along with Ambassador Chris Stevens and two U.S. security personnel during an attack on a U.S. consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.

Smith has repeatedly sought an explanation from the federal government for her son?s death, asking why the State Department denied requests for additional security and why military forces within range of the battle were ordered to stand down.

Her requests have been repeatedly ignored, starting in April 2013 and continuing through last fall, when Democratic lawmakers walked out during her testimony before the House Oversight Committee. Smith and other aggrieved families are now demanding House Speaker John Boehner appoint a special committee to investigate the attacks, delivering a letter to the speaker?s office on Monday.


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Post by: apples on January 08, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
Former Gitmo detainee and AQ operative took part in Benghazi attack

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/08/former-gitmo-detainee-led-benghazi-attack/

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Almost sixteen months after the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, we still have held no one accountable ? but the roster of terrorists is expanding in familiar directions. The Washington Post reported overnight that Obama administration officials now suspect a former detainee at Guantanamo Bay as being one of the leaders. Abu Sufian bin Qumu has connections to al-Qaeda as well, despite a recent report from the New York Times asserting that AQ had no involvement in the attack:

    U.S. officials suspect that a former Guantanamo Bay detainee played a role in the attack on the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and are planning to designate the group he leads as a foreign terrorist organization, according to officials familiar with the plans.

    Militiamen under the command of Abu Sufian bin Qumu, the leader of Ansar al-Sharia in the Libyan city of Darnah, participated in the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, U.S. officials said.

    Witnesses have told American officials that Qumu?s men were in Benghazi before the attack on Sept. 11, 2012, according to the officials. It?s unclear whether they were there as part of a planned attack or out of happenstance. The drive from Darnah to Benghazi takes several hours.

    The State Department is expected to tie Qumu?s group to the Benghazi attack when it designates three branches of Ansar al-Sharia, in Darnah, Benghazi and Tunisia, as foreign terrorist organizations in the coming days.

The Bush administration freed Qumu in 2007 and sent him back to Libya.  At the time, the US government was under pressure at home and internationally to close Gitmo and release all of the prisoners detained there. Qumu isn?t the first Gitmo alumnus to return to terrorism, but he may have made himself the most successful at it, at least in relation to terror attacks on Americans.

The Post gives a long description of Qumu?s affiliation with AQ, which started in 1993, and included links to Abu Zubayda, who is still in Gitmo. Qumu got a monthly salary from AQ, discovered in captured files. Thomas Joscelyn has more at the Weekly Standard:

    Ben Qumu is one of the original ?Arab Afghans? who traveled to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets in the 1980s. In the years that followed the end of the anti-Soviet jihad, Ben Qumu followed al Qaeda to the Sudan and then, in the mid-to-late 1990s, back to Afghanistan and Pakistan. He was eventually arrested in Pakistan after the 9/11 attacks and transferred to the American detention facility at Guant?namo Bay.

    A leaked Joint Task Force Guant?namo (JTF-GTMO) threat assessment describes Ben Qumu as an ?associate? of Osama bin Laden. JTF-GTMO found that Ben Qumu worked as a driver for a company owned by bin Laden in the Sudan, fought alongside al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, and maintained ties to several other well-known al Qaeda leaders. Ben Qumu?s alias was found on the laptop of an al Qaeda operative responsible for overseeing the finances for the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The information on the laptop indicated that Ben Qumu was an al Qaeda ?member receiving family support.?

Fast forward to the present:

    An August 2012 report published by the Library of Congress in conjunction with the Defense Department, titled ?Al Qaeda in Libya: a Profile,? identified Ben Qumu as the possible ?new face of al Qaeda in Libya despite? his denial of an ongoing al Qaeda role. The report also


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Post by: apples on January 09, 2014, 10:40:13 AM
Former Guantanamo detainee and his group expected to be designated 'foreign terrorist entities' over Benghazi attack

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/09/former-guantanamo-detainee-and-his-group-to-be-designated-foreign-terrorist/

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The State Department is on the cusp of publicly designating a former Guantanamo detainee, Sufian bin Qumu, and his group, Ansar Al-Sharia, as "foreign terrorist entities"over his alleged role in the Benghazi terror attack, Fox News has learned.

The designation, which restricts travel and allows the U.S. government to freeze financial assets, is expected to include three branches of Ansar Al-Sharia in Libya. The group?s name means ?supporters of Islamic law.?

On Wednesday, the State Department tried to minimize the group?s connections to the Al Qaeda leadership in Pakistan, often referred to as the ?core.?

?There's no indication at this point that core Al Qaeda was involved or planned these attacks,? spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. ?And these are not official affiliates of Al Qaeda.?

The expected terrorist designation of bin Qumu and his group, first reported by the Washington Post, comes 16 months after Fox's Bret Baier first identified the Libyan as a suspect . The Post report also comes three months after Fox?s chief intelligence correspondent, Catherine Herridge, reported bin Qumu was in Benghazi on the day of the Sep. 11, 2012 attack and a former Usama bin Laden bodyguard and a courier were implicated in the assault that killed four Americans.


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Post by: apples on January 09, 2014, 10:53:09 AM
Obama Donor Helped Free Terrorist Behind Benghazi Attack

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/obama-donor-helped-free-terrorist-behind-benghazi-attack/

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The left is rushing to blame Bush for the Benghazi attack, now that the State Department is moving to name a former Gitmo detainee released by Bush as a key figure in the attack.

But Gitmo detainees were released as part of a pressure and lawfare campaign by the radical pro-terrorist left. Including Obama?s backers.

    The left-wing organization that helped spring Qumu was the Center for Constitutional Rights. Last April, the group issued an indignant press release painting Qumu as a harmless victim and blasting those concerned about his unrepentant jihadi ways.

And who was running CCR at the time? An Obama backer.

    Now the person that headed up the CCR when Qumu was released was none other than Michael Ratner, who not only endorsed Barack Obama in 2008, but also contributed $2,300 to his campaign as well.
    Mr Ratner has aided several detainees at Guantanamo Bay, according to the Huffington Post and several have been freed.


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Post by: apples on January 09, 2014, 11:02:28 AM
U.S. Benghazi compound lease renewed without security

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-benghazi-compound-lease-renewed-without-security/

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The State Department renewed the lease for the U.S. compound in Benghazi two months before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks without requiring the facility to meet normal security standards. That news comes from an interview Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., conducted with a survivor of the attacks.
Flash Points: CBS News National Security Correspondent Bob Orr talks with CBS News Senior National Security Analyst Juan Zarate about the recent raid to capture an al-Qaeda leader in Libya, and what it says about America's effort to apprehend those responsible for the Benghazi attack.

 
Flash Points: While much scrutiny has been paid to the talking points used to brief the public on the attack on a U.S. facility in Benghazi, CBS News National Security correspondent Bob Orr and senior national security analyst Juan Zarate discuss which questions remain unanswered about the government's response to the attack.

  The survivor, a State Department diplomatic security agent whose name isn't being disclosed, spoke behind closed doors in late November to Senators Graham, Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Robert Menendez, D-N.J. The previously-undisclosed existence of the year-long lease calls into question the State Department's designation of the compound as "temporary" and therefore exempt from normal security requirements.

According to the Accountability Review Board (ARB) that investigated security shortfalls, a "key driver behind the weak security platform in Benghazi was the decision to treat Benghazi as a temporary, residential facility...This resulted in the Special Mission compound being excepted from office facility standards and accountability" under federal law. The ARB said Benghazi's security was "far short" of standards from the start in November 2011 and "remained so even in September 2012, despite multiple field-expedient upgrades funded by [diplomatic security]."

A State Department official told CBS News that although the facility was exempt from normal requirements, a long list of improvements was made to physical security including concrete jersey barriers, barbed wire and hardened safe rooms with steel doors. As to what makes a facility considered "temporary" even with a year-long commitment, the State Department told CBS News "a temporary facility is one we occupy in a place where we have not yet decided to have a permanent diplomatic presence."

The lease renewal came shortly after a June 2012 assault in which an improvised explosive device blew a giant hole in the exterior wall of the facility. Graham also says he learned that in addition to other denied requests, the State Department's Regional Security Officer for Libya asked for stronger security for the compound in August 2012 but it was denied. The State Department told CBS News that the August 2012 request for more security was not submitted to headquarters, so there was no denial.


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Post by: apples on January 10, 2014, 12:21:27 PM
State Department names groups behind Benghazi strike

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/state-department-names-groups-behind-benghazi-strike/

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The State Department on Friday for the first time blamed specific groups and militants for the 2012 Benghazi attack, designating them as terrorists -- a move that further undermines initial claims the attack was spontaneous.

The department announced that it was labeling Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi and Ansar al-Sharia in Darnah as terror organizations, in part over their role in the Benghazi attack. It applied the same label to Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia, over a separate attack on Americans in Tunis.

The State Department also labeled as terrorists Sufian bin Qumu, head of the Darnah branch and a former Guantanamo Bay detainee, and Ahmed Abu Khattalah, head of the Benghazi branch.

Fox News previously reported that the two were suspected of playing a role in the attack. And despite State Department claims that Al Qaeda leadership was not involved and a recent news report echoing that assessment, Fox News has learned that bin Qumu has Al Qaeda ties.

According to his Guantanamo file, he has historic ties to the Al Qaeda network, including training at one point at "Usama bin Laden's Torkham camp."


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Post by: apples on January 13, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
State Dept. Offers $10 Million Reward to Find Benghazi Terrorists

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/state-dept-offers-10-million-reward-find-benghazi-terrorists_774105.html

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The State Department today publicly announced a $10 million reward "for information leading to the arrest or conviction of any individual responsible for the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks." The announcement for the reward is posted on rewardsforjustice.net.

    Seeking Information Against International Terrorism
    Wanted
    Information leading to the arrest or conviction of any individual responsible for terrorist attack against the U.S. Special Mission Compound and Annex in Benghazi, Libya
    Up to $10 Million Reward

"On September 11-12, 2012, four Americans ? U.S. Ambassador to Libya John Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and Protective Security Specialists Glen Anthony Doherty and Tyrone Snowden Woods? were killed in a terrorist attack against the U.S. Special Mission Compound and Annex in Benghazi, Libya. A series of attacks involving arson, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), and mortars was waged on two U.S. facilities in Benghazi, as well as U.S. personnel en route between the two facilities. In addition, the attacks severely wounded two U.S. personnel, injured three Libyan contract guards, and resulted in the destruction and abandonment of both facilities," reads the announcement.

All they need to do is go to 1600 Pennsylvania  Ave.  ::)


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Post by: apples on January 13, 2014, 06:50:26 PM
The Benghazi Transcripts: Top Defense officials briefed Obama on ?attack,? not video or protest

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/13/benghazi-transcripts-top-defense-officials-briefed-obama-on-attack-not-video-or/

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Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation's top civilian and uniformed defense officials -- headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama -- were informed that the event was a "terrorist attack," declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president's Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing -- in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing -- occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.

According to declassified testimony obtained by Fox News, Ham -- who was working out of his Pentagon office on the afternoon of Sept. 11 -- said he learned about the assault on the consulate compound within 15 minutes of its commencement, at 9:42 p.m. Libya time, through a call he received from the AFRICOM Command Center.

"My first call was to General Dempsey, General Dempsey's office, to say, 'Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to see him right away,'" Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. "I told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary Panetta."


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Post by: apples on January 14, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
Declassified Transcripts of Benghazi Briefings Released

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ContentRecord_id=17D69AFC-744A-43DA-8BEA-D582975C1277

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Armed Services Committee Examined Actions Of Military Chain Of Command Before, During, and After Attack

WASHINGTON? The House Armed Services Committee today released a series of recently declassified transcripts of briefings on the September 11th 2012 attack on Americans in Benghazi, Libya. The briefings were conducted by the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations then chaired by Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL), though they were open to all members of the Committee and attended by Members off the Committee. The briefings, which took place over the course of several months, were part of the Committee?s examination of the actions of the military chain of command before, during, and after the attack. A report summarizing the conclusion of the HASC Oversight & Investigations majority Members draw from these briefings is expected to be released later this week.

Read the transcripts linked below
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Post by: apples on January 14, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
Links to the Transcripts

Transcript #1
1_Briefing transcript (redacted), ?DOD?s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,? (Part I, Session I, DOD), May 21, 2013.pdf (3.7 MBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=A5BE5DFD-FAA6-4485-9D40-BA30B550907C

Transcript #2
2_Briefing transcript (redacted), ?DOD?s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,? (Part I, Session II DOD), May 21, 2013.pdf (642.4 KBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=09A47C06-D5DA-48B5-9A93-6F7BA7270187

Transcript #3
3_Briefing transcript (redacted), ?DOD?s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,? (Part II, AFRICOM), June 26, 2013.pdf (9.2 MBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=AAEBCAA5-4C8F-4820-BACD-2DB9B53C3424

Transcript #4
4_Briefing transcript (redacted), ?DOD?s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,? (Part III, Colonel Bristol), July 31, 2013.pdf (10.8 MBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=BE7DEB01-488C-4C66-9E4D-87BE32A6B482

Transcript #5
5_Hearing transcript, ?DOD?s posture for September 11, 2013,? (Part IV, Force Posture), September 19, 2013.pdf (691.9 KBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=00AAEE77-1A27-4250-B3B0-F5AD22951240

Transcript #6
6_Briefing transcript (redacted), ?DOD?s force posture in anticipation of September 11, 2012,? (Part V, General Dempsey), October 10, 2013.pdf (2.3 MBs)

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C628BC78-60B3-4E44-B6BC-D4A0920E57E5


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Post by: apples on January 14, 2014, 06:49:18 PM
Jay Carney: Of Course Benghazi Was An Attack!

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/14/Jay-Carney-Of-Course-Benghazi-Was-An-Attack

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During Tuesday's press briefing, Ed Henry asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney about pronouncements he made in the White House briefing room, in the days following the Benghazi attack, referring to Fox News' exclusive report on newly declassified documents that show the nation's top civilian and uniformed defense officials, prior to a previously scheduled meeting with Obama, already knew that the assault was a terrorist attack. 

"You said we did not know it was a terror attack, Henry said."Why, if leaders said they knew, would you say that?"

 Carney saying otherwise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrD9Xx1b53A)

Jay Carney Defends Benghazi Talking Points Special Report All Star  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OixkaItza90)saying otherwise, again[/url]


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Post by: apples on January 15, 2014, 11:17:34 AM
Senate Intelligence Committee releases comprehensive Benghazi report

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/15/senate-intelligence-committee-releases-comprehensive-benghazi-report/

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The Senate Intelligence Committee has released a comprehensive report on the Benghazi attack finding the tragedy was ?preventable? and the administration failed to respond to ?ample? warnings that security was deteriorating before Sept. 11, 2012.

The report faulted the State and Defense departments. It also cited the failure of the Obama administration to "bring the attackers to justice."

Specifically, the report said the intelligence community provided ?ample strategic warning? that security in eastern Libya was deteriorating and U.S. personnel ?were at risk.? The report said multiple ?tripwires? were crossed signaling security problems, and the State


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 15, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
The Benghazi Transcripts: Did White House exaggerate Obama's preparation for 9/11 anniversary?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/14/benghazi-transcripts-white-house-preparation/

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On the eve of the terrorist attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, the Obama White House may have exaggerated the scope and depth of President Obama's preparation for such attacks, newly declassified documents show.

On Sept. 10, 2012 -- the day before Al Qaeda-linked terrorists carried out the bloody assault on the U.S. consulate and a related annex in Benghazi -- the White House Press Office issued a press release entitled "Readout of the President's Meeting with Senior Administration Officials on Our Preparedness and Security Posture on the Eleventh Anniversary of September 11th."

A set of "Top Secret" documents obtained by Fox News reveals that the nation's highest-ranking uniformed military officer, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress in executive session last year that the Sept. 10 meeting "was actually a conference call." Moreover, Dempsey testified, Libya was never even discussed during the call, despite a persistent and increasingly worrisome stream of threat reporting from that country, and from Benghazi in particular.

The Sept. 10 press release stated that the session had covered the "specific measures we are taking" and "steps taken" to protect Americans and U.S. facilities abroad. It also related an order from President Obama for all agencies to "do everything possible to protect the American people, both at home and abroad."

Yet the declassified documents show that Dempsey testified to the Congress last year that not a single directive had been issued by him or Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to adjust American military force posture anywhere in the world as the 9/11 anniversary loomed just hours away.

These revelations emerged in some 450 pages of closed-door testimony taken from Dempsey, and other key military officials, by the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. The panel, chaired by Rep. Martha Roby, R-Ala., conducted nine classified hearings and briefings on Benghazi and is drawing on the transcripts of the testimony to complete what staffers call an "interim" report on the subject.

Fox News reported in October the panel's preliminary finding that U.S. forces were postured on Sept. 11, 2012 in such a way as to make militar


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Post by: apples on January 15, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
Benghazi: Obama Administration Lied Before They Lied

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/01/14/benghazi-obama-administration-lied-before-they-lied/?print=1

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Another interesting turn reported by Fox, that the rest of the media will ignore in favor or running a zillion more stories on Bridgegate. Or maybe they?ll spend some time discussing the ins and outs of the Justin Bieber egg-throwing scandal:

    On the eve of the terrorist attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, the Obama White House may have exaggerated the scope and depth of President Obama?s preparation for such attacks, newly declassified documents show.

    On Sept. 10, 2012 ? the day before Al Qaeda-linked terrorists carried out the bloody assault on the U.S. consulate and a related annex in Benghazi ? the White House Press Office issued a press release entitled ?Readout of the President?s Meeting with Senior Administration Officials on Our Preparedness and Security Posture on the Eleventh Anniversary of September 11th.?

    A set of ?Top Secret? documents obtained by Fox News reveals that the nation?s highest-ranking uniformed military officer, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress in executive session last year that the Sept. 10 meeting ?was actually a conference call.? Moreover, Dempsey testified, Libya was never even discussed during the call, despite a persistent and increasingly worrisome stream of threat reporting from that country, and from Benghazi in particular.

    The Sept. 10 press release stated that the session had covered the ?specific measures we are taking? and ?steps taken? to protect Americans and U.S. facilities abroad. It also related an order from President Obama for all agencies to ?do everything possible to protect the American people, both at home and abroad.?


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Post by: apples on January 16, 2014, 12:09:28 PM
Stevens Cabled Washington: CIA Says 'AQ [Al Qaeda] Training Camps Within Benghazi'

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(CNSNews.com) - On August 16, 2012--a little less than a month before the terrorist attacks on the U.S. State Department and CIA facilities in Benghazi, Libya--Amb. Chris Stevens sent a cable to State Department headquarters in Washington, D.C. stating that a CIA officer on the ground in Benghazi had briefed a State Department officer in that city the day before ?on the location of approximately ten Islamist militias and AQ training camps within Benghazi."

This information was released today in a report issued by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

"AQ," the initials for al Qaeda, are used in intelligence documents quoted in the report to indicate a tie to al Qaeda. For example, a Defense Intelligence Agency report refers to "al Qa'ida (AQ) regional nodes;" a Pentagon Joint Chief's intelligence report refers to "AQ associates;" and a CIA report entitled "Libya: Al Qa'ida Establishing Sanctuary," refers to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula as "AQAP" and al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Magreb as "AQIM."

The CIA officer?s discussion of the "AQ training camps" in Benghazi occurred at an ?Emergency Action Committee? meeting convened August 15, 2012 by the State Department?s principal officer in Benghazi.

?In an August 16, 2012, cable to State headquarters, Stevens raised additional concerns about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi following an Emergency Action Committee (EAC) meeting held on August 15, 2012, in Benghazi,? says a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report on Benghazi that was released today.

?The EAC is an interagency group convened periodically in U.S. embassies and other facilities in response to emergencies or security matters,? says the report. ?In this case, the head State Department officer in Benghazi, called the Principal Officer, convened the meeting ?to evaluate Post?s tripwires in light of the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi.'"

The cable that Stevens sent to State Department headquarters


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Post by: apples on January 16, 2014, 12:49:04 PM
Devastating Benghazi Timeline Reveals Obama MIA

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/15/Devastating-Benghazi-Timeline-Reveals-Obama-MIA

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The government watchdog group that revealed that President Barack Obama failed to attend over half of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB) released a devastating Benghazi timeline Wednesday.

It reveals Obama?s schedule in the week leading up to the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Release of the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) Benghazi timeline comes as a


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Post by: apples on January 16, 2014, 12:49:36 PM
CONFIRMED: Senate Report Reveals There Were NO PROTESTS Outside Benghazi Consulate on 9-11

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/01/confirmed-senate-report-reveals-there-were-no-protests-outside-benghazi-consulate-on-9-11/

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Susan Rice said the attack was a ?spontaneous protest? organized as a result of an obscure YouTube video.

Anyone with the least bit of common sense understood this was not true. Islamists don?t carry RPG?s to YouTube protests.

Today the Senate Intelligence Committee released a stinging report on the Benghazi consulate attack.  The report confirms there were no protests outside the consulate on the night of the attack.
Via Page 33 of the Senate report:

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Post by: apples on January 16, 2014, 12:50:58 PM
Benghazi Attack Called Avoidable in Senate Report

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/world/middleeast/senate-report-finds-benghazi-attack-was-preventable.html?_r=1

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WASHINGTON ? A stinging report by the Senate Intelligence Committee released Wednesday concluded that the attack 16 months ago that killed four Americans in Benghazi, Libya, could have been prevented, singling out the State Department for criticism for its failure to bolster security in response to intelligence warnings about a growing security crisis around the city.

The report is broadly consistent with the findings of previous inquiries into the attack on Sept. 11, 2012, but it is the first public examination of a breakdown in communications between the State Department and the C.I.A. during the weeks leading up to the deadly episode at the diplomatic compound where J. Christopher Stevens, the American ambassador, died.


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Post by: apples on January 17, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
15 More Benghazi-Related Victims Murdered: Does it Matter Now Hillary?

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/15-benghazi-related-victims-murdered-matter-now-hillary/#biborST64sb8lKeF.99

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Wednesday the Senate finally made a statement about Benghazi. A bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee has found that the State Department could have likely prevented the death of four Americans in Benghazi if they would not have ignored the intelligence reports and pleas for assistance from our diplomatic mission. The findings are that increased security was needed. USA Today reports:

    Congressional Democrats for the first time joined the GOP to condemn the State Department for refusing security measures they say could have prevented the deaths of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Benghazi.

    The report, worked on for months and released Wednesday by a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee, also says 15 people in Libya who have tried to help the FBI investigate the murders have been killed.

15 persons in Libya who were attempting to cooperate with the FBI investigation are now dead. Isn?t that convenient?

Does it matter now Mrs. Clinton?

I have to wonder how intelligent our Intelligence Committee really is, because alternative media seems to be far beyond what these Senators are finding. Here?s another thought. Maybe they aren?t that stupid but they think that we are.


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Post by: apples on January 20, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
NY TIMES WRONG: Jihadists from at least four Al Qaeda groups in on Benghazi attack

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/19/jihadists-from-at-least-four-al-qaeda-groups-in-on/

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The militants who gathered on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, to torch and kill inside the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, were a who?s who of the modern al Qaeda movement, newly declassified documents show.

Since its attacks on the U.S. in 2001, al Qaeda has worked to establish partners outside its base in Pakistan, especially in North Africa and the new fertile territory of eastern Libya and the port city of Benghazi.

But AQ is just Jayvee according to obama. He said so in the New Yorker interview last week. So nothing to worry about huh? That is why he was MIA that night I guess?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on January 20, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
Van Susteren Claims WH Source Told Her to Warn Fox Reporter to Back Off Benghazi

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/01/18/Admin-Source-Told-Van-Susteren-To-Tell-Colleague-To-Halt-Benghazi-Coverage

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Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren claims someone in the Obama administration told her to direct colleague Jennifer Griffin to stop investigating and reporting on the deadly September 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. compound and CIA annex in Benghazi.

Van Susteren wrote:

    I remembered a disturbing phone call from a good friend in the Obama Administration. I have known this friend for years. The call was a short time after 9/11 (maybe Oct. 2012?) In the call, my friend told me that my colleague Jennifer Griffin, who was aggressively reporting on Benghazi, was wrong and that, as a favor to me, my friend in the Administration was telling me so that I could tell Jennifer so that she did not ruin her career. My friend was telling me to tell Jennifer to stop her reporting. Ruin her career?

    In 20 plus years, I have never received a call to try and shut down a colleague ? not that I even could ? this was a first. Here is what I know: Jennifer is a class act...experienced...and a very responsible journalist. One of the absolute best in the business ? no axe to grind, she just wants the facts.

    I told my friend before I go to Jennifer telling her she is wrong, I need proof she is wrong, strong proof and you need to be specific - what are you saying she is getting wrong? We went around and around ? including the statement again that this was just a call as a favor to Jennifer and me to save Jennifer?s career from reporting incorrect information. I got no proof. Zero. I smelled a rat. Favor to me? Hardly. My friend was trying to use me. I feel bad that a friend did that to me, tried to use me for a dirty reason. I knew then ? and it is now confirmed by BIPARTISAN Senate Intelligence Committee ? Jennifer was getting her facts right. I think it is really low for the Administration to stoop this low.

In her post on Gretawire, Van Susteren points out that in the early days following the assault on the facility, Fox was not invited to participate in a conference call hosted by the State Department press shop regarding the attack that other media outlets were invited to.

"Our friends in other media outlets were scandalized that Fox was not included and told us all about it. They were suspicious of State Department forgetting us/Fox and courageous to tip us off. The State Department claimed it was [an] accident and not intentional," Van Susteren writes.


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Post by: apples on January 21, 2014, 12:43:14 PM
CURL: The drip, drip, drip of Benghazi

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/19/curl-the-drip-drip-drip-of-benghazi/

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Another day, another revelation on Benghazi.



The ?bipartisan? Senate Select Committee on Intelligence last week put out a scathing report on the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya, citing ?systematic failures? that led to the death of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

While the heavily redacted report released to the American public spread the blame, the committee repeatedly pointed the finger at former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton?s State Department.

In perhaps the most significant finding, the report said the intelligence community (IC), including the CIA, NSA and Pentagon, among others, delivered many warnings on the growing threats in Benghazi, but the State Department failed to take them seriously and increase security.

?Finding 1: In the months before the attacks on September 11, 2012, the IC provided ample strategic warning that the security situation in eastern Libya was deteriorating and the U.S. facilities and personnel were at risk in Benghazi,? the report said.

More: ?The IC produced hundreds of analytic reports in the months preceding the September 11-12, 2012, attacks, providing strategic warning that militias and terrorist and affiliated groups had the capability and intent to strike the U.S. and Western facilities and personnel in Libya.?

Those ?analytic reports? came with stark titles. ?Libya: Terrorists Now Targeting U.S. and Western Interests,? said one from June 2012. ?Terrorism: Conditions Ripe for More Attacks, Terrorist Safe Haven in Libya,? said another. And, ?Libya: Terrorists to Increase Strength During Next Six Months.?

The committee?s conclusion: ?Given these developments and the available intelligence at the time, the committee believes the State Department should have recognized the need to increase security to a level commensurate with the threat, or suspend operations in Benghazi.?

The new report also ripped the State Department for what it did after the attack. ?In finished reports after September 11, 2012, intelligence analysts inaccurately referred to the presence of a protest at the Mission facility before the attack based on open source information and limited intelligence, but without sufficient intelligence or eyewitness statements to corroborate that assertion. The IC took too long to correct these erroneous reports, which caused confusion and influenced the public statements of policymakers.?

In the days after the attack, the Obama administration dispatched the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, to the Sunday talk shows to detail what the White House knew. She said on Sept. 16 that the attackers gathered ?spontaneously? to protest at the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. Within days, security footage from inside the compound proved there was no protest, but months later, Mrs. Clinton asked: ?Was it because of a protest or because of guys out for a walk one night and decided to go kill some Americans? At this point what difference does it make, senator??

What?s more, the report concluded that terrorists connected to al Qaeda were in fact present at the attack ? contradicting what a December article in The New York Times asserted. ?Individuals affiliated with terrorist groups, including AQIM (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb), Ansar al-Sharia, AQAP (al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula), and the Mohammad Jamal Network (which the State Department says is connected to al Qaeda), participated in the September 11, 2012, attacks,? the report said.


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Post by: apples on January 23, 2014, 01:44:22 PM
Benghazi whistleblower faults Senate Intelligence panel for leaving his testimony out of report

http://washingtonexaminer.com/benghazi-whistleblower-faults-senate-intelligence-panel-for-leaving-his-testimony-out-of-report/article/2542750

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Senate Intelligence Committee members did not include important testimony from Benghazi whistleblower Gregory Hicks about security at the U.S. mission in their final report, which had the effect of blaming the fallen ambassador and protecting a top State Department official from responsibility for the attack.

"I was interviewed by the Select Committee and its staff, who were professional and thorough. I explained this sequence of events," Hicks (who worked with the late U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, in the lead-up to the attack) explained in a Wall Street Journal op-ed published Thursday. "For some reason, my explanation did not make it into the Senate report."
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Hicks' narrative contradicts the Senate report's finding that Stevens "declined" to have 30 special forces operators protect his team, rather than the nine present in Tripoli and Benghazi when the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack took place. The decision to reduce the security was made against Stevens' wishes by Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy, according to Hicks.

"Because Mr. Kennedy had refused to extend the special forces security mission, State Department protocol required Chris to decline Gen. [Carter] Ham's two offers to do so, which were made after Aug. 6," Hicks wrote.

Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., said Hicks' indictment of the Senate report demonstrates the need for a select committee to investigate the Benghazi attack, as opposed to the current system that has different congressional committees, with various areas of jurisdiction, investigating the aspects of the attack that fall within their bailiwick.

"Perhaps, if we had such a Select Committee, the recent Senate report would have better represented Mr. Hicks' testimony about the administration's failure to provide adequate security in Benghazi, rather than forcing him to pen an op-ed to correct the record," Wolf wrote in a Thursday letter to House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.


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Post by: apples on January 23, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
Gregory Hicks: Benghazi and the Smearing of Chris Stevens

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304302704579332732276330284?mod=ITP_opinion_0&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304302704579332732276330284.html%3Fmod%3DITP_opinion_0

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To sum up: Chris Stevens was not responsible for the reduction in security personnel. His requests for additional security were denied or ignored. Officials at the State and Defense Departments in Washington made the decisions that resulted in reduced security. Sen. Lindsey Graham stated on the Senate floor last week that Chris "was in Benghazi because that is where he was supposed to be doing what America wanted him to do: Try to hold Libya together." He added, "Quit blaming the dead guy."


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Post by: apples on February 04, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Herridge: Fmr. CIA Director Morell May Have Altered Benghazi Talking Points to Benefit Obama Admin.

http://freebeacon.com/herridge-fmr-cia-director-morell-may-have-altered-benghazi-talking-points-to-benefit-obama-admin/

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Former CIA Director Mike Morell may have altered the Benghazi talking points to benefit the Obama administration during the 2012 election, Catherine Herridge of Fox News reports.

On September 15 one day before Susan Rice made her infamous appearances on various Sunday shows, according to the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report Morell received an email from the CIA station chief in Libya indicating the Benghazi attacks were ?not/not an escalation of protests.? The report does not indicate when Morell read the email, but that same day Morell cut the word ?Islamic? from the talking points and left the word ?demonstration.?

On September 16, Morell emailed embassy staff in Tripoli asking for more information. The FBI and CIA reviewed the closed circuit footage on September 18 showing there were no protests. Yet, President Obama still employed the ?demonstration? verbiage jus


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Post by: apples on February 05, 2014, 03:00:26 PM
7 Seconds: Lawmaker's Benghazi Question Stumps Top US Officials

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/seconds-lawmakers-benghazi-question-stumps-top-us-officials/story?id=22365382

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Seven seconds of total silence.

The nation's top intelligence officials have answered the question countless times over the past year and a half, but they seemed stumped during a House hearing Tuesday when a Florida congressman asked them one more time: "Can anybody at the table tell us when somebody will be held responsible for the murders in Benghazi?"

For seven seconds, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, CIA director John Brennan, Defense Intelligence Agency director Michael Flynn, National Counterterrorism Center director Matt Olsen and FBI director James Comey sat quietly ? each one seemingly waiting for one of the others to rescue them from a question for which they have no easy answer, regarding a tragedy that almost since the outset has been wrapped in political partisanship.

After the seven seconds of silence prompted by Florida Republican Rep. Jeff Miller's question, FBI director Comey leaned into the microphone.


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Post by: apples on February 12, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Report: White House, State Dept Failed to Recognize Security Situation in Benghazi

http://freebeacon.com/report-white-house-state-dept-failed-to-recognize-security-situation-in-benghazi/

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The White House and State Department failed to recognize the rapidly deteriorating security situation in Benghazi, Libya, and left the military inadequately prepared to respond to the terrorist attacks there, according to a new report.

Lawmakers continue to review the actions of U.S. officials regarding the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi that resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.

The Senate Intelligence Committee found in a bipartisan report released last month that the ?attacks were preventable.? It faulted both the State Department and intelligence community for not increasing security at the diplomatic facility and sharing information about a nearby CIA annex.

A report released Tuesday by Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) focused on the Department of Defense?s (DOD) response to the Benghazi attacks.

While the report noted that military commanders could have taken more steps


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Post by: apples on February 12, 2014, 02:32:36 PM

GOP Report Concludes Military Could Not Have Changed Outcome in Benghazi


http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-report-concludes-military-could-not-have-changed-outcome-in-benghazi/

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The attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya that left four Americans dead, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, continues to be a line of political attack against the Obama administration, but a new report from the Republican-led House Armed Services Committee belies at least one aspect of the popular conservative criticism, that U.S. forces were ordered to ?stand down? when they could have saved lives in Benghazi.

The Republican-authored report?s findings are, by no means, a love letter to President Obama or then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. For example, the report concludes that U.S. personnel in Benghazi were woefully vulnerable in September 2012 because a) the administration did not direct a change in military force posture; b) there was no intelligence of a specific ?imminent? threat in Libya; and c) the Department of State, which has primary responsibility for diplomatic security, favored a reduction of Department of Defense security personnel in Libya before the attack.?

The balance of the report contains many such harsh judgments of the Obama administration, the State Department, and the intelligence community.

However, as ThinkProgress notes, the report does undermine a key spoke in conservative talking points about Benghazi:

    As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than


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Post by: apples on February 12, 2014, 02:55:58 PM

GOP Report Concludes Military Could Not Have Changed Outcome in Benghazi


http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-report-concludes-military-could-not-have-changed-outcome-in-benghazi/


Who where they talking to when they gave away their position with lasers?


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Post by: jafo2010 on February 12, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
Is anyone really paying ANY attention to this?


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Post by: apples on February 15, 2014, 12:19:24 PM
Did CIA official suppress Benghazi narrative? Accounts raise new questions

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/14/did-cia-official-hide-benghazi-narrative-accounts-raise-new-questions/

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New information about the intelligence available in the immediate aftermath of the Benghazi attack raises questions about whether the former No. 2 at the CIA downplayed or dismissed reporting from his own people in Libya that it was a coordinated attack and not an out-of-control protest over an anti-Islam video.

Then-Deputy Director Mike Morell, whose own agency lost two employees at Benghazi, former Navy Seals Ty Woods and Glen Doherty, was heavily involved in editing the administration?s internal narrative on what happened ? known as the ?talking points? ? which served as the basis for then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice?s controversial claims about a protest on the Sunday talk shows after the attack.

According to the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report on Benghazi, on Sept. 15, four days after the attack and one day before Rice?s appearance, the CIA's most senior operative on the ground in Libya emailed Morell and others at the agency that the attack was "not/not an escalation of protests."


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Post by: apples on February 15, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
Is anyone really paying ANY attention to this?
Some still are.


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Post by: apples on February 21, 2014, 01:19:01 PM
Former CIA official accused of misleading lawmakers on Benghazi

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/20/former-cia-official-accused-misleading-lawmakers-on-benghazi/

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misleading lawmakers on Benghazi
Catherine Herridge

By Catherine Herridge
Published February 20, 2014
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Former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell is facing accusations from Republicans that he misled lawmakers about the Obama administration's role in crafting the bogus storyline that a protest gone awry was to blame for the deadly Benghazi attack.

Among other discrepancies, Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee allege Morell insisted the talking points were sent to the White House for informational purposes, and not for their input -- but emails, later released by the administration, showed otherwise.

"We found that there was actual coordination which could influence then -- and did influence -- what CIA conveyed to the committees about what happened [in Benghazi]," Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., told Fox News.

Burr was one of six Republicans who leveled the allegations against Morell, who also served as acting director, in an addendum to a recently released Senate Intelligence Committee report. According to the claims, in late 2012, Morell testified the so-called


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Post by: apples on February 21, 2014, 01:20:07 PM
Lawmakers: CIA #2 Lied to Us About Benghazi

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/lawmakers-cia-2-lied-us-about-benghazi_782724.html?nopager=1

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?I went back and reviewed some of his testimony the other day and he?s gotten himself in a real box,? says Senator Saxby Chambliss, the highest-ranking Republican on the committee. ?It?s really strange. I?ve always thought Mike was a straight-up guy, gave us good briefings?factual, straightforward. I mean, this has really been strange the last few weeks?all this now being uncovered.?

At issue is the central role Morell played in producing the Obama administration?s flawed talking points about the fatal attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012, and the misleading answers he provided to lawmakers who investigated them.

The allegations of misconduct are serious. In the ?additional views? portion of the recent Senate Intelligence Committee report, six Republican members  accuse Morell of lying in sworn testimony to Congress. Several Republican senators tell The Weekly Standard that Morell misled them in one-on-one or small-group meetings about the talking points. Morell?now counselor to Beacon Global Strategies, a consultancy close to Hillary Clinton?did not respond to a request for comment.


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Post by: apples on February 21, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
Rumsfeld: Clinton Was Responsible for Lack of Protection in Benghazi

http://blog.heritage.org/2014/02/15/rumsfeld-clinton-responsible-lack-protection-benghazi/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

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Donald Rumsfeld, a man who doesn?t mince his words, placed the blame for the Benghazi disaster squarely on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in an interview posted by Breitbart TV on Thursday.

Others, like the British government and the International Red Cross, were aware how dangerous Benghazi was and pulled their personnel out, but Clinton insisted on pursuing a diplomatic U.S. presence in Benghazi, but left them practically undefended. After disaster struck on September 11, 2012, she also passed on the blame to four lower level officials in the State Department.

>>> Check Out: Explosive Top Secret Benghazi Testimony Contradicts Obama, Clinton, Rice

On The Steve Malzberg Show Thursday, Rumsfeld stated:

    ?In this instance, there was widespread knowledge, as was pointed out by Congressman Issa, the British knew that there were al-Qaeda threats, and they pulled their people out because they knew they couldn?t protect them.?

    ?Our people knew there were al-Qaeda threats, and they not only did not protect them, but they didn?t pull them out. That, in my view, is a neglect of important responsibilities. The idea that it falls to someone down the line, I think, is a misunderstanding. Clearly, the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the person responsible.?

Rumsfeld?s very reasonable remarks echo findings by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which has released its bipartisan ?Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012.?  The review concluded that the tragic loss of


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Post by: apples on March 31, 2014, 11:15:07 AM
New questions about ex-CIA director?s Benghazi claims ahead of testimony

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/28/new-questions-about-ex-cia-directors-benghazi-claims-ahead-testimony/

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New allegations are raising additional questions about former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell's involvement in crafting the administration's flawed narrative on the Benghazi attack, ahead of his scheduled testimony next week on Capitol Hill.

Morell is set to testify publicly for the first time on Wednesday about his role in crafting the controversial Benghazi "talking points," which initially blamed a protest for the deadly attack.

The former acting director, and deputy director, was called to testify to explain potentially conflicting testimony he gave Congress about the talking points and the administration's role. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Mike Rogers told reporters this week -- before news of his retirement was made public -- that the rare, open session should "allow Mr. Morell to answer the questions that we know many people have about what he knew and when he knew it."

But another detail is raising questions. According to a source with first-hand knowledge of events, during a secure video conference call two days after the Sept. 11, 2012 attack, Morell told the team in Libya that there was intelligence a demonstration preceded the assault. With that statement, Morell apparently dismissed the reporting of U.S. personnel on the ground, including the CIA's top officer, known as the chief of station.


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Post by: apples on April 01, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
CIA officer confirmed no protests before misleading Benghazi account given

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/31/cia-ignored-station-chief-in-libya-when-creating-t/print/

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Before the Obama administration gave an inaccurate narrative on national television that the Benghazi attacks grew from an anti-American protest, the CIA's station chief in Libya pointedly told his superiors in Washington that no such demonstration occurred, documents and interviews with current and former intelligence officials show.

The attack was "not an escalation of protests," the station chief wrote to then-Deputy CIA Director Michael J. Morell in an email dated Sept. 15, 2012 ? a full day before the White House sent Susan E. Rice to several Sunday talk shows to disseminate talking points claiming that the Benghazi attack began as a protest over an anti-Islam video.

That the talking points used by Mrs. Rice, who was then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, were written by a CIA that ignored the assessment by its own station chief inside Libya, has emerged as one of the major bones of contention in the more than two years of political fireworks and congressional investigations into the Benghazi attack.


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Post by: apples on April 05, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
Benghazi Victim's Uncle Slams Obama Admin: 'Delusional, Paid Liars'

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/03/benghazi-victims-uncle-slams-susan-rice-delusional-paid-liar

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Former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell gave his first public testimony on the Benghazi attack yesterday.

Morell denied allegations that he or the agency bowed to political pressure to change the talking points. He said he believed CIA analysts who thought the attack was a protest, rather than the station chief on the ground.

One of the four Americans killed was Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. Bill Hemmer spoke to his uncle, Michael Ingmire today on America?s Newsroom.

Ingmire said the conversation moved forward during the hearing, but he still wasn?t satisfied. He called out Morell for throwing the analysts under the bus, which was ?cowardly and weasel-like.?

Morell said he edited out the word ?extremists? and Al Qaeda because he didn?t want to enflame tensions in the Middle East.

 Ingmire called it another excuse and said, ?To a large degree, the promotion of the anti-Islamic video by President Obama and Hillary Clinton actually brought the video into greater focus and created more protests.?


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Post by: jafo2010 on April 06, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
The total incompetence of the Obama Administration, and predominantly Hilary Clinton as Sec of State screams for impeachment hearings.  These two should be indicted, convicted and sentenced to disappear for gross negligence at a minimum.

Americans die, and Hilary Clinton tells America to get over it already.  Disgraceful is the only word that comes to mind, along with criminal.

Wake up America and take your country back from the liberals who wish to destroy it.


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Post by: apples on April 07, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
The total incompetence of the Obama Administration, and predominantly Hilary Clinton as Sec of State screams for impeachment hearings.  These two should be indicted, convicted and sentenced to disappear for gross negligence at a minimum.

Americans die, and Hilary Clinton tells America to get over it already.  Disgraceful is the only word that comes to mind, along with criminal.

Wake up America and take your country back from the liberals who wish to destroy it.
Very well said jafo


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Post by: apples on April 07, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
CIA Chief: I Removed ?Islamic? from ?Islamic Extremists? in Benghazi Talking Points to Appease Muslims

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/cia-chief-i-removed-islamic-from-islamic-extremists-in-benghazi-talking-points-to-appease-muslims/

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via CIA Chief: I Removed ?Islamic? from ?Islamic Extremists? in Benghazi Talking Points to Appease Muslims ? Fox Nation.

Congressman: Just want to clarify, how does the term Al Qaeda?how would that disclose classified sources? Number 1 and then secondly, OK if we can get there, you also took out Islamic extremist? (Cross talk)

Morrell: I did not take out extremists, I took out the word Islamic in front of extremist and I took it out for two reasons. Most importantly I took out because we were dealing with protests and demonstrations across much of the Muslim world as a result of the video and the last thing I wanted to do was to was to do anything to further inflame those passions and so that?s why I took the word Islamic out. It was a risk judgment. The second reason I took it out was-What other kind of extremists are there in Libya?

Per Wikipedia: ?97% of the population in Libya are Muslims, who belong to the Sunni branch.[150] Small numbers of Ibadi Muslims and Sufis also exists in the country.[151]  So the answer is none. There are only Muslim extremists. And CIA assets.

After former acting CIA Director Mike Morell testified to the House Intelligence Committee that he is the one who changed the Benghazi talking points, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) renewed her call for a select committee to investigate the attack. She suggested that Morell either lied to senators shortly after the attack, or lied during his testimony today.

Islamic terrorists assaulted the American facility at Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, killing for Americans just weeks before the presidential election. Despite


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Post by: apples on April 07, 2014, 10:55:56 AM
More Obfuscation on Benghazi

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579481402659166832

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Last week's encounter between former acting CIA Director Michael Morell and the House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence may have brought us a bit closer to the truth of how four Americans came to be killed at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012, and how their countrymen came to be lied to about it. But the progress toward truth was probably not made in a way that Mr. Morell intended. The encounter on Capitol Hill also made clear that the forum that will take us all the way to the truth must be something other than a congressional hearing.

Mr. Morell announced at the start of the hearing that he was there to refute claims that he had "inappropriately altered CIA's classified analysis and its unclassified talking points . . . for the political benefit of President Obama and then-Secretary of State Clinton." Critics of the government's performance on Benghazi have charged that Mr. Morell's revisions principally although not exclusively involved changing the description of the violence and its perpetrators, and removing the suggestion that they might have had ties to a terrorist organization. These changes, it is argued, enabled Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations at the time, to promote the discredited and since abandoned narrative that the violence was a reac


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Post by: apples on April 23, 2014, 10:35:40 AM
Stunner! Benghazi Was a Base for Illegal Arms Shipments to Syria

http://www.independentsentinel.com/stunner-benghazi-was-a-base-for-illegal-arms-shipments-to-syria/

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Sen. Rand Paul, was he prescient?

Illegal arms were shipped to Syrian rebels from Libya and this could be the reason Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton lied and claimed the attack on the consulate was the result of a video.

Seymour Hirsch published an investigative report stating that there is an addendum to the Senate Intelligence Committee report which explains what the CIA was doing in Benghazi. Our government was shipping arms from Libya through Turkey to Syrian rebels before we realized they were al-Qaida.

The reason the government lied was probably to conceal an illegal operation to arm Syrian rebels. Ambassador Stevens was the coordinator.

It wasn?t authorized by Congress and it is a blatant violation of law. The CIA claims they were only liaison?s with MI-6 and they didn?t have to get permission from the Senate Intelligence Committee. That is ludicrous. The British had left Benghazi by the time of the attack.

That needs investigating!

From the Hirsch article:

The full extent of US co-operation with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar in assisting the rebel opposition in Syria has yet to come to light. The Obama administration has never publicly admitted to its role in creating what the CIA calls a ?rat line?, a back channel highway into Syria. The rat line, authorised in early 2012, was used to funnel weapons and ammunition from Libya via southern Turkey and across the Syrian border to the opposition. Many of those in Syria who ultimately received the weapons were jihadists, some of them affiliated with al-Qaida. (The DNI spokesperson said: ?The idea that the United States was providing weapons from Libya to anyone is false.?)

Contemporary Ceramics Centre
In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others. The report?s criticism of the State Department for not providing adequate security at the consulate, and of the intelligence community for not alerting the US military to the presence of a CIA outpost in the area, received front-page coverage and revived animosities in Washington, with Republicans accusing Obama and Hillary Clinton of a cover-up. A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations. It pertained to the rat line. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi?s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn?t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. (A spokesperson for Petraeus denied the operation ever took place.)

The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s. The involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation. The former intelligence official explained that for years there has been a recognised exception in the law that permits the CIA not to report liaison activity to Congress, which would otherwise be owed a finding. (All proposed CIA covert operations must be described in


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Post by: apples on April 23, 2014, 10:57:48 AM
Committee on Benghazi: Obama Switching Sides & Providing Weapons to Al-Qaeda Led to Benghazi Attack

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/committee-benghazi-obama-switching-sides-providing-weapons-al-qaeda-led-benghazi-attack/

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Here's more evidence of what I contended years ago. These were my exact words: Obama had switched sides in the war on terror ? even before Benghazi. And the heads exploded on the left (here).

And I was right.

The Benghazi attack could have been prevented if US hadn't 'switched sides in the War on Terror' and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

    Citizens Committee on Benghazi claims the US government allowed arms to flow to al-Qaeda-linked militants who opposed Muammar Gaddafi
    Their rise to power, the group says, led to the Benghazi attack in 2012
    The group claims the strongman Gaddafi offered to abdicate his presidency, but the US refused to broker his peaceful exit
    The commission, part of the center-right Accuracy In Media group, concluded that the Benghazi attack was a failed kidnapping plot
    US Ambassador Chris Stevens was to be captured and traded for 'blind sheikh' Omar Abdel-Rahman, who hatched the 1993 WTC bombing plot

By David Martosko, U.S. Political Editor

    The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented ? if the U.S. hadn't been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier.

    'The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,' Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline.

    She blamed the Obama administration for failing to stop half of a $1 billion United Arab Emirates arms shipment from reaching al-Qaeda-linked militants.

    'Remember, these weapons that came into Benghazi were permitted to enter by our armed forces who were blockading the approaches from air and sea,' Lopez claimed. 'They were permitted to come in. ? [They] knew these weapons were coming in, and that was allowed..

    'The intelligence community was part of that, the Department of State was part of that, and certainly that means that the top leadership of the United States, our national security leadership, and potentially Congress ? if they were briefed on this ? also knew about this.'

    The weapons were intended for Gaddafi but allowed by the U.S. to flow to his Islamist opposition.

    On September 11, 2012 armed terror-linked militias attacked U.S. diplomatic outposts in Benghazi, Libya, killing four Americans and driving the Unite


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Post by: apples on April 24, 2014, 09:57:27 AM
Hillary Clinton Again Calls Benghazi ?Biggest Regret? as Secretary of State

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/04/23/hillary-clinton-again-calls-benghazi-biggest-regret-as-secretary-of-state/?mod=WSJBlog

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BOSTON ? Hillary Clinton reiterated Wednesday that her darkest time as secretary of state was the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

Mrs. Clinton, in a speech to more than 3,000 people at a women?s leadership conference here, called the attack and loss of lives ?very, very painful? and ?certainly the biggest regret that I have as secretary of state.?

She noted that she had taken responsibility for security at the diplomatic outpost, where Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans died, and had pledged to do everything she could to ensure a similar tragedy won?t happen again.


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Post by: apples on April 24, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
Dvorak: Was Romney right about Russia? The Benghazi connection?  article date 11-3-12

http://www.federalobserver.com/2012/11/03/dvorak-was-romney-right-about-russia-the-benghazi-connection/

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As the presidential election nears its conclusion, the current Commander-in-Chief, Barack Obama, is finally facing media scrutiny surrounding his handling of the 9/11 attack in Libya that took the life of U.S. Ambassador, Chris Stevens, and three others.

As the layers of spin are pulled back, information reveals that the U.S. may have been trafficking weapons under Ambassador Steven’s watch and Russia didn’t like it.

It is indisputable that the U.S. government was aware the Benghazi mission was under attack based on real-time drone surveillance video feeds from Libya to the Department of Defense, the U.S. State Department, Central Intelligence Agency, and the White House Situation Room. What is also now known is that the mission was under surveillance before the Benghazi attack by the very Libyan security forces charged with protecting the U.S. consulate and numerous requests for additional security went unanswered by U.S. officials.


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Post by: jafo2010 on April 27, 2014, 10:23:43 AM
This is NOT news!  I have known this for well over one year!

Our leaders knew the attack was coming hours before it did, and they did nothing.  What nonsense.   The ONLY reason I can see for this inquiry to drag out so long is to hit the media just as Clinton is selected by the Democrats as their candidate in 2016. Otherwise, why?????????????


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2014, 10:39:06 AM
Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ?video? explanation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/29/benghazi-emails-suggest-white-house-aide-involved-in-prepping-rice-for-video/

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Newly released emails on the Benghazi terror attack suggest a senior White House aide played a central role in preparing former U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances -- where she wrongly blamed protests over an Internet video.

More than 100 pages of documents were released to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Among them was a Sept. 14, 2012, email from Ben Rhodes, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.

The Rhodes email, with the subject line: "RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 pm ET," was sent to a dozen members of the administration's inner circle, including key members of the White House communications team such as Press Secretary Jay Carney.

In the email, Rhodes specifically draws attention to the anti-Islam Internet video, without distinguishing whether the Benghazi attack was different from protests elsewhere.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/1919_production-4-17-14/


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2014, 10:42:33 AM
The Benghazi Scandal In One Email

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04/the-benghazi-scandal-in-one-email.php

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One aspect of the scandal, anyway. The administration has released a series of emails in response to FOIA requests by Judicial Watch. You can read them here. This one, by Benjamin Rhodes, a White House political operative, shows the administration?s priorities on the Friday before Susan Rice?s infamous tour of the Sunday talk shows. Click to enlarge:

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Post by: apples on April 30, 2014, 10:44:08 AM
White House to Susan Rice: Blame the Video for Benghazi Attack

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/29/White-House-to-Amb-Rice-Blame-the-Video

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Blame the video, not the president's foreign policy. That was the White House's advice to Susan Rice as she prepared to appear on Sunday morning talk shows after the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

A newly released email collected by Judicial Watch in response to a FOIA request shows the White House pushed Ambassador Susan Rice to promote the idea that an internet video mocking Islam, not President Obama's foreign policy, was responsible for attacks in the Middle East, including the one in Benghazi.

There has been much discussion of a set of talking points which were edited by the CIA at the State Department's behest for use by Members of Congress. But there was another set of talking points being prepared at almost the same time for use by Ambassador Susan Rice. Rice appeared as a surrogate for Secretary of State Clinton on five separate Sunday morning news programs on September 16th, 2012.


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2014, 10:45:03 AM
Emails Point to Ben Rhodes as Key to Benghazi Talking Points

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/29/Emails-Point-to-Ben-Rhodes-as-Key-to-Benghazi-Talking-Points

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A year ago, Ed Lasky of the American Thinker speculated that White House security official Ben Rhodes ? a speechwriter with no prior national security experience or expertise ? was at the heart of the Benghazi scandal, specifically the false talking points spouted on Sunday news shows by former UN Ambassador (now National Security Advisor) Susan Rice that the Sep. 11, 2012 attack was a protest against a YouTube video.

Now, those speculations seem to have been confirmed by the release of a batch of emails obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. Lasky quotes the emails, which pinpoint Rhodes as conducting a "prep" session for Rice on the Friday night before her Sunday morning media tour, with the goal ?To underscore that these protests are rooted in [an] Internet video, and not a broader failure [of] policy.?

In 2013, Lasky reminded readers that Politico's Carol Lee had once described Rhodes as "one of the obscure guys who wrote Obama's campaign speeches in Starbucks and played video games into the early morning hours." After his mysterious elevation within the


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Post by: apples on April 30, 2014, 10:53:44 AM
White House defends Benghazi email

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=DD216065-500C-4894-A37F-E06FD9DD34A1

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The Obama administration Wednesday said recently released emails on the 2012 Benghazi attacks reflected what officials ?understood to be the facts at the time.?

?In the email Ben Rhodes makes clear that our primary goals included making sure our people in the field were protected and bringing those responsible for the attacks to justice,? Bernadette Meehan, National Security Council spokeswoman, said in a statement. ?The content reflects what the administration was saying at the time and what we understood to be the facts at the time.?

?Unlike those who insist on politicizing the events in Benghazi, our focus remains on ensuring that a tragedy like this isn?t repeated in Libya or anywhere else in the world,? the statement continued. ?In our view, these documents only serve to reinforce what we have long been saying: that in the days after September 11, 2012, we were concerned by unrest occurring across the region and that we provided our best assessment of what was happening at the time.?


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Post by: apples on May 01, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
Military intelligence official: 'We should have tried' to help Americans during Benghazi attack

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/01/military-official-should-have-tried-to-help-americans-during-benghazi-attack/

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A top military intelligence official at the time of the Benghazi attacks testified Thursday that U.S. personnel "should have tried" to help Americans under fire on Sept. 11, 2012, in an unprecedented public statement from a leading military officer.

Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell, who at the time of the attacks was the deputy intelligence director at AFRICOM, questioned the merits of the ongoing debate over whether U.S. military forces could have responded in time. Leading Pentagon and other military officials previously have argued that additional U.S. assets were not deployed to assist Americans under attack that night because they weren't close enough.

"The point is we should have tried," Lovell told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in his opening statement. "As another saying goes -- always move to the sound of the guns."


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 10:39:01 AM
Ex-White House spokesman downplays controversy over Benghazi talking points

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/02/ex-white-house-spokesman-downplays-controversy-over-benghazi-talking-points/

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Former White House spokesman Tommy Vietor, in a tense interview with Fox News? Bret Baier, downplayed the revived controversy over the Benghazi talking points, saying he does not remember his own role in the editing process because: ?Dude, this was like two years ago.?

Vietor, the former spokesman for the National Security Council, insisted on ?Special Report with Bret Baier? Thursday that emails that link a White House adviser to former U.N. ambassador Susan Rice's controversial Sunday show statements about the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate say nothing new.

The Obama administration has been under fire since the emails were released earlier this week, with some Republicans calling them the ?smoking gun.? The emails indicate a White House aide helped prep Rice for her appearances and


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
House committee subpoenas Kerry over Benghazi documents

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/02/house-committee-subpoenas-kerry-over-benghazi-documents/

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A key House committee has subpoenaed Secretary of State John Kerry to testify about newly released Benghazi documents.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee announced Friday that it has issued the subpoena for Kerry to testify at a May 21 hearing.


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
Fmr. NSC Spokesman Tommy Vietor: Obama Was Not In The Situation Room During Benghazi Attack

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/05/01/fmr_nsc_spokesman_tommy_vietor_obama_was_not_in_the_situation_room_during_benghazi_attack.html

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RET BAIER: People on the ground testified that they knew where the ambassador was, that they were military in their precision. It was not guys coming to protest. They had mortars and heavy weapons.

TOMMY VIETOR: Bret, a couple of things. I was in the Situation Room that night, okay. We didn't know where the ambassador was definitively.

BAIER: Was the president in the Situation Room?

VIETOR: No. And the fact that your network at one time reported that he watched video feed of the attack as it was ongoing is part of what I think is a pattern of inaccurate --

BAIER: Where was the president?

VIETOR: In the White House. Let me finish my initial statement. The notion that we could, you know, divine motives from a drone feed I think is wrong. And I also think this idea that the military had the capability to rescue those individuals but chose not to is I think extremely unfair to the military. And Admiral Mullen said basically the opposite.


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 01:47:25 PM
BREAKING NEWS: THERE WILL BE BENGHAZI SELECT COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
Now Senators Graham, Ayotte and McCain seeking confirmation of Presidential activities during Benghazi Attacks

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Graham, Ayotte, McCain Letter Seeks Confirmation of Presidential Activities During Benghazi Attacks

 

WASHINGTON ? U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Kelly Ayotte (R-New Hampshire) and John McCain (R-Arizona) today wrote to President Obama asking him to confirm a statement made by former Communications Director for the National Security Council Tommy Vietor that President Obama was absent from the White House Situation Room during the Benghazi attacks.

 

Text of the Graham-Ayotte-McCain letter is below:

 

Dear Mr. President:

 

Last night, the former Communications Director for the National Security Council, Tommy Vietor, stated that on the afternoon and night of September 11, 2012 ? while the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya was under attack ? that you never visited the White House Situation Room to monitor events.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2014/05/02/now-senators-graham-ayotte-and-mccain-seeking-confirmation-of-presidential-activities-during-benghazi-attacks-click-to-read/


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Post by: apples on May 02, 2014, 01:51:19 PM
Benghazi Email: Hillary Clinton Deputy Names Islamic Extremists, Not YouTube, Morning After Attack

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/05/01/Benghazi-Email-Hillary-Clinton-Deputy-Names-Islamic-Extremists-Not-YouTube

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A newly-emerged government email directly "contradicts the message that President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice and White House press secretary Jay Carney repeated publicly" in the immediate aftermath of the attack in Benghazi.

Per Sharyl Attkisson dot com, the "email is titled ?Libya update from Beth Jones.? Beth Jones served as Assistant Secretary of State to Hillary Clinton at the time. The email documents a conversation between Jones and Libya?s Ambassador at 9:45am on Sept. 12, 2012 not long after the attacks.

This below contradicts the White House and State Department's story that they believed a video led to what was thought to be a spontaneous attack.

    ?When [the Libyan Ambassador] said his government suspected that former Qaddafi regime elements carried out the attacks, I told him the group that conducted the attacks?Ansar Al Sharia?is affiliated with Islamic extremists,? Jones reports in the email.


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2014, 12:43:22 PM
Update: Boehner to Form Select Committee on Benghazi

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/leadership-aide-boehner-seriously-considering-select-committee-benghazi_789000.html?utm_campaign=Washington+Examiner&utm_source=washingtonexaminer.com&utm_medium=referral

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UPDATE: Other news organizations confirm the report below that House speaker John Boehner will announce the formation of a select committee on Benghazi, led by Rep. Trey Gowdy.
boehner, john

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House Speaker John Boehner is ?seriously considering? appointing a select committee to investigate the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior GOP leadership aide. The move comes after the revelation of an email from a top Obama national security official, Ben Rhodes, instructing Susan Rice to focus on an anti-Muslim internet video to explain the attacks.

?The new emails this week were the straw that broke the camel?s back,? says the aide. ?The Speaker was furious to learn that the admininstration withheld relevant documents from a congressional subpoena. He?s sick and tired of this evasion and obstruction from the administration, and wants a solution to finally force accountability, get to the truth, and provide justice.?

Boehner, who has paid careful attention to the Benghazi developments since the attacks, has resisted calls to appoint a select committee, preferring to allow the various committees of jurisdiction to pursue investigations of their slices of the attacks on their own. Aides say Boehner continues to believe that the work of those committees has been valuable. ?The current committees investigating the attack have done good work, using their authority, including subpoena authority, to gather facts, interview hundreds of witnesses, and conduct dozens of hearings. But this week?s events demonstrate a new level of stonewalling and obfuscation by the administration that requires a new level of investigation.


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Post by: apples on May 03, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
http://www.aim.org/benghazi/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/CCB-Interim-Report-4-22-2014.pdf

Summary of Findings:
 
The war in Libya was unnecessary, served no articulable U.S. national security
objective, and led to preventable chaos region-wide. In the period since the 2011
revolution in Libya, the country has remained fragmented, poorly governed, and overrun
with violent militias, the majority of which are jihadist Al Qa?eda in the Islamic Maghreb
(AQIM) affiliates. Yet, at the time of his overthrow, Muammar Qaddafi was an ally of
the United States in the Global War on Terror.
 
On 17 March 2011 the United Nations Security Council passed resolution 1973 for a ?No
Fly Zone,? ostensibly to protect Libyan civilians caught up in the hostilities between
Libyan government forces and the rebel forces, which were dominated by the Libyan
Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qa?eda. The following day in London, Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton announced U.S. government support for the Brotherhood-led Libyan
Transitional National Council in its revolt against Qaddafi.
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The Citizens? Commission on Benghazi (CCB) has discovered, however, that the ensuing
civil war may well have been avoided, had the U.S. chosen to permit it. Within days of
that declaration of U.S. government support for the Libyan rebels, Qaddafi sought to
enter into negotiations with the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) under a flag of truce
for the purpose of discussing his possible abdication and exile. On 21 March 2011, Rear
Admiral (ret.) Chuck Kubic began email and telephone contact between Tripoli and
AFRICOM Stuttgart regarding the possibility of talks under a white flag of truce. Over
the following days, Qaddafi expressed interest in a truce, and possible abdication and
exile out of Libya. He even pulled his forces back from several Libyan cities as a sign of
good faith.
 
RADM Kubic telephoned LTC Brian Linvill, the U.S. AFRICOM point of contact for all
military matters regarding the Libyan situation, to advise him of Qaddafi?s desire to enter
into military-to-military discussions. General Carter Ham was advised immediately on 21
March 2011 of these communications and conveyed them up his chain of command to the
Pentagon. After two days of back-and-forth with the Libyans, however, General Ham had
received no positive affirmation of consent from Washington, D.C. to pursue Qaddafi?s
offer. The war continued and ultimately cost tens of thousands of lives. The U.S. failure
to even consider Qaddafi?s request for talks, and its determination to enter and pursue this
war in support of al-Qa?eda-linked rebels, presents the appearance of a policy intent upon
empowering Islamic forces with no measurable benefit to U.S. national security.
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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:18:56 AM
Breaking: Visitor Logs Show Obama at ?Debate Prep? While Americans Died in Benghazi ? Too Busy to Make it to Situation Room

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/breaking-visitor-logs-show-obama-at-debate-prep-while-americans-died-in-benghazi-too-busy-to-make-it-to-situation-room/

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?Obama was too busy with his debate prep to make it to the Situation Room.

The official White House schedule puts him at the White House during the time of the deadly attack.

This was after the embassy in Cairo was stormed that afternoon.

Then Obama went to bed.

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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:20:10 AM
Top official thought kidnapping Stevens was Benghazi aim

http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/top-official-thought-kidnapping-stevens-was-benghazi-aim/#me7Eg6EWv5xGBHvc.99

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A just-released U.S. government email reveals a top Obama administration official was immediately concerned the Benghazi attack was a concerted effort to kidnap U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

The night of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack, Eric Pelofsky, senior adviser to United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, sent an email to Rice in which he expressed concern about a possible kidnap plot. The message was contained in the 112 pages of documents released to Judicial Watch as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

?Yes ? I?m very worried. In particular, that he is either dead or this was a concerted effort to kidnap him,? wrote Pelofsky at 9:06 p.m. Eastern the night of the attack.

The email was sent after the initial assault at the U.S. special mission and just prior to the second assault at the nearby CIA annex, according to administration timelines.

Pelofsky wrote the email even after an email chain shows he was in receipt of information that a call was made from a cell phone belonging to Stevens at a local hospital. The caller claimed he was


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:20:51 AM
WH Blames 'Politicization' for Benghazi... Just Like Every Other Scandal

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/05/01/White-House-Blames-Politicization-for-Benghazi-Just-Like-Every-Other-Scandal

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On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney spun wildly to avoid the evidence that the White House had manipulated the talking points of then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice regarding the Benghazi attacks of September 11, 2012.

That evidence showed that the White House told Rice that her goal on the Sunday shows would be ?to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, not a broader failure of policy.? In other words, tell the public to blame YouTube, not our feckless and cowardly foreign policy, for the dead Americans prior to the 2012 election.

Carney attempted to state that the email itself wasn?t about Benghazi ? it was about Middle East protests in general. That claim doesn?t hold water, given that the email was released in response to a request from Judicial Watch for documents related to Benghazi and the fact that Rice explicitly connected the YouTube videos to Benghazi.

On Thursday, nonetheless, Carney claimed that the entire issue had been politicized and ripped the investigation into Benghazi altogether. That?s nothing new for Carney, who has stated in the past that Benghazi was politicized by Mitt Romney and suggested in 2013, ?This is a subject that has from its beginning been subject to attempts to politicize it by Republicans, when in fact what happened in Benghazi was a tragedy.? He added th


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:21:24 AM
Rothman: Benghazi Revelations Vindicate Jonathan Karl, Sharyl Attkisson

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rothman-benghazi-revelations-vindicate-jonathan-karl-sharyl-attkisson/

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In May of 2013, President Barack Obama?s supporters were put on the defensive when ABC News exposed new details about the White House?s response to the Benghazi attack. The report suggested that National Security Advisor Susan Rice knowingly misled the country about the impetus for that 2012 assault on an American consulate when she appeared on five Sunday talk shows.

ABC?s Jonathan Karl reported that White House emails indicated that Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes sought to alter Rice?s talking points ahead of those appearances in order to de-emphasize the role that Islamic terrorism played in that attack. Karl?s reporting was later supported by former CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson.

The press was scandalized. Buzzfeed?s Ben Smith conceded that the White House looked ?terrible.? The Daily Beast columnist Michael Tomasky said that Republicans might pursue the revelation as a potential ?impeachment issue,? and implied that they may be justified in doing so. ?Heads will roll,? wrote BBC editor Mark Mardell. ?This is the first hard evidence that the state department did ask for changes to the CIA?s original assessment.?

It was not long before the once clear evidence that the White House had misled the country in order to achieve a political end in the autumn of a presidential election year became muddied. It was soon revealed that Karl and Attkisson merely saw versions of those emails reproduced from their source?s memory. That source was likely linked to a Republican officeholder who had access to the original emails.


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:28:04 AM
Distribution List of ?Smoking Gun? Benghazi Email Included Muslim Brotherhood AGENT

http://pamelageller.com/2014/05/distribution-list-smoking-gun-benghazi-email-included-muslim-brotherhood-agent.html/#sthash.cohw7lxD.aqXQo7a2.dpuf

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Obama is so in bed with our enemies it should scare the living daylights of every rational American.  By and large Obama pursues a Muslim Brotherhood policy. He aids the Brotherhood in Egypt and Syria. And America (e.g. CAIR, ISNA, MSA et al).

More on the Muslim Brotherhood embeds in his administration.
Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood?s penetration of the Obama administration? (here).

As for Benghazi, there never was a video. And Libya was jihad, a well-coordinated  Islamic terrorist attack. The violent protest at the US embassy was for the release of the blind sheikh, mastermind of the ?93 World Trade Center attack.

There?s little difference between Obama and the Muslims that incite to kill and burn embassies because of an insulting cartoon.

Check out the first talking point of the Benghazi narrative, ? the United States is doing everything that we can to protect our people.?  Imagine the bloody gall of this animal. He did nothing while our people were under attack for hours. It was a vicious firefight ? for


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
John Kerry team angry at Darrell Issa about Benghazi subpoena

http://washingtonexaminer.com/john-kerry-team-angry-at-darrell-issa-about-benghazi-subpoena/article/2548021

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A demand that Secretary of State John Kerry testify before Congress about his department's compliance with requests for information about the Benghazi terrorist attack angered his spokesperson, who faulted lawmakers for failing to give him the opportunity to appear voluntarily.

"t's highly unusual for a subpoena to be issued before there's even an official invitation for testimony. I think everyone can make their own judgments about that," State Department spokesperson Marie Harf said. "I'm not sure the secretary's even aware of the request, again, given his travel. He's scheduled to be in Mexico on the 21st, which is the date that [the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee] has asked him to testify, which HOGR would have known if they reached out to us instead of issuing a subpoena - I think by tweet, possibly," she added in an apparent allusion to committee chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who tweeted throughout the day Friday the reasons for the subpoena.


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Post by: apples on May 04, 2014, 12:38:16 PM
Dem Rep. Schiff calls on party to boycott new Benghazi investigation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/04/dem-rep-schiff-calls-on-party-to-boycott-new-benghazi-investigation/

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A Democratic member of the House intelligence committee called Sunday for his party to boycott the newly announced committee tasked with probing the Benghazi attacks, dismissing new evidence that Republicans have called a "smoking gun" showing the White House politicized the tragedy.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., told "Fox News Sunday" that Democrats should not give the select committee more "credibility" by joining.

"I think it's a colossal waste of time," he said. "I don't think it makes sense, really, for Democrats to participate."

Schiff, calling the committee a "tremendous red herring," acknowledged he doesn't know what Democratic leadership will decide.

Fox News was told on Friday, when House Speaker John Boehner announced that the House would vote on creating a special committee, that the panel would be bipartisan.


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Post by: apples on May 05, 2014, 01:28:31 PM
Speaker Boehner announced today that he has chosen Rep.Gowdy (R-SC) to serve as chairman of the select committee to investigate #Benghazi

https://twitter.com/BretBaier


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Post by: apples on May 05, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
Rep. Gowdy named to lead Benghazi select committee

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/benghazi-select-committee-chair-announcement-could-come-as-early-as-monday/

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South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, a former federal prosecutor known for his aggressive style of questioning at congressional hearings, has been tapped to lead a select committee tasked with investigating the 2012 Benghazi attacks.

House Speaker John Boehner made the announcement Monday afternoon.

"With four of our countrymen killed at the hands of terrorists, the American people want answers, accountability, and justice," he said. "Trey Gowdy is as dogged, focused, and serious-minded as they come."

Boehner said Gowdy's courtroom background makes him the "ideal person" to lead the newly announced investigation.

Gowdy's name had been high on the short list ever since the speaker announced Friday he would call a House vote on forming a select committee. Boehner had long resisted calls for such a probe, but reversed course after newly released emails raised questions about the White House role in shaping the administration's public narrative after the attack.


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
Pelosi opens door to Democrats on Benghazi committee

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/06/pelosi-opens-door-to-democrats-on-benghazi-committee/?intcmp=latestnews

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House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi rebuffed calls from her party for Democrats to boycott a newly announced Benghazi investigation, saying Tuesday that the so-called select committee should have bipartisan members.

"If this review is to be fair, it must be truly bipartisan," Pelosi said in a written statement.

She went a step further, calling for the committee to be "equally divided between Democrats and Republicans as is done on the House Ethics Committee."

It's unclear whether Republican leaders would agree to that request. Republicans pointed out that despite Pelosi's call for an equally divided panel, the breakdown of a prior select committee on climate change, engineered by the California Democrat, included nine Democrats and six Republicans.


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Discrepancies between Benghazi emails released to Congress, watchdog group

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

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EXCLUSIVE: Documents reviewed by Fox News show there are differences between Benghazi emails released through the federal courts to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch and emails released to the House oversight committee as part of its investigation into the attacks.

The discrepancies are fueling allegations the administration is holding back documents to Congress.

"The key question is whether Congress now has all the documents," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a member of the oversight committee, said. As for differences between the two sets of documents, Chaffetz alleged: "They are playing games. The classification and redactions are different. Why should Judicial Watch get more than Congress after issuing a subpoena?"

The emails published by Judicial Watch last week, which showed additional White House involvement in shaping the public explanation of what happened, helped trigger the announcement Friday by House Speaker John Boehner of a select committee to investigate.


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Post by: apples on May 06, 2014, 11:07:42 AM
State Dept.: Kerry Will Not Comply with Benghazi Subpoena

http://www.mediaite.com/online/state-dept-kerry-will-not-comply-with-benghazi-subpoena/

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Secretary of State John Kerry has been subpoenaed to testify on Benghazi on May 21st. However, in the daily State Department press briefing on Monday, deputy spokesperson Marie Harf said that Kerry will be out of the country on that day and won?t comply with the subpoena to testify on that particular date.

Harf said that Kerry ?has been made aware? of the subpoena, but still plans to be out of the country and in Mexico on the 21st. She said the State Department was ?surprised? that Darrell Issa skipped over offering an invitation and went straight to issuing a subpoena. She very strongly intimated the subpoena was issued for partisan political purposes and suggested Republicans are hypocrites for decrying subpoenas when they were issued against Condoleezza Rice.


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Post by: apples on May 07, 2014, 11:24:59 AM
Benghazi panel will have 7 Republicans, 5 Democrats

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/benghazi-panel-will-have-7-republicans-5-democrats/

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(CNN) ? House Republicans have decided the select committee to investigate the Benghazi terror attack will include seven Republicans and five Democrats, according to two senior House GOP leadership aides.

The House is expected to vote on the legislation establishing the panel later this week.

Earlier Tuesday, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi demanded it be evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.

Now that the committee's structure has been decided, it's unclear whether Democrats will participate.

After a meeting among Democratic leaders, several sources in the room said their biggest concern is not about having fewer members, but having an equal say in how the panel will be run - especially regarding subpoena power.

This will be more kabuki theater in my opinion. Meanwhile the powers that be will cram immigration behind closed doors. I like Trey Gowdy, but I don't trust the rest of them. Pelosi wanting to play nice, now Kerry is. Something is up.


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Post by: apples on May 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
John Kerry: I?ll comply with House GOP?s Benghazi request

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/benghazi-john-kerry-106405.html

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Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday indicated he would comply with a House GOP subpoena to testify about Benghazi and other questions from the new select committee appointed by House Speaker John Boehner.

But in his first comments on the topic since renewed attention to it began in the last week, Kerry batted away the inquiry into the September 2012 attack on the American consulate in Benghazi as a ?partisan? effort that won?t bring forward anything that isn?t already known.


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Post by: apples on October 18, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Holder Decision on Benghazi Case Reverberates

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/holder-decision-on-benghazi-case-reverberates.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article

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WASHINGTON ? Hours after learning that the United States ambassador to Libya and three others had been killed in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012, senior American officials held a secure videoconference call to discuss how to proceed in investigating the attack.

The prosecutor on the call for the Justice Department was Zainab N. Ahmad, one of the department?s most respected national security lawyers. In less than a decade in the United States attorney?s office in Brooklyn, Ms. Ahmad had successfully overseen several high-profile prosecutions, working alongside the New York-based F.B.I. agents who were going to take the lead in investigating Benghazi.


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Post by: jafo2010 on October 19, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
Don't see the vantage point of talking to Kerry.  He was not involved.  Clinton, I can see, Kerry, is a waste of time.  He would not be honest any ho.



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Post by: apples on February 24, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
Pentagon Benghazi Documents Expose Administration Lies

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/022315-740536-judicial-watch-documents-show-pentagon-response-to-benghazi.htm

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Scandal: Heavily redacted documents show a military response had been drafted in answer to the Benghazi terrorist attack by a group supporting "an Islamic state" in Libya. It also showed the attack wasn't inflamed by a video.

It's taken Judicial Watch two years to obtain from the most transparent administration in history the 486 pages of documents pertaining to the military response to the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack on our Benghazi diplomatic mission. They confirm what we have said repeatedly, that the Benghazi tale spun by President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was indeed a lie agreed upon.

Despite heavy redaction, they show that the real "JV team" ? a term applied by Obama to the deadly Islamic State ? resides in the White House. The papers reveal, for instance, that at one point the military relied on a photo from a Twitter post to determine the status of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was killed with Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith in the first of two attacks.

Several hours later ? hours during which a rescue or support attempt arguably could have been made ? terrorists killed CIA contractors and former Navy SEALs Ty Woods and Glen Doherty.


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Post by: jafo2010 on February 24, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
Obama and Clinton lied.  Wow!  When have they ever told the truth?  If their lips are moving they are lying.

You would think the American people would get tired of this nonsense.


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Post by: apples on February 25, 2015, 10:17:51 AM

You would think the American people would get tired of this nonsense.
You would think.


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Post by: apples on February 26, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Documents Obtained by Judicial Watch Reveal Top Hillary Clinton Advisers Knew Immediately that Assault on Benghazi was Armed Attack

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-obtained-judicial-watch-reveal-top-hillary-clinton-advisers-knew-immediately-assault-benghazi-armed-attack/

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First ?OpsAlert@State.gov? email at 4:07 PM on September 11, 2012, reports, ?? diplomatic mission is under attack ? 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well ? Stevens in the compound safe haven?
 
Email at 6:06 PM September 11, 2012, states terrorist group, ?Ansar al Sharia Claims Responsibility.?

(Washington, DC) ? Judicial Watch announced today that on February 11, 2015, it uncovered documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing that top aides for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, including her then-chief of staff Cheryl Mills, knew from the outset that the Benghazi mission compound was under attack by armed assailants tied to a terrorist group.  The documents were produced as a result of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the State Department (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State ((No. 1:14-cv-01511).  The documents make no reference to a spontaneous demonstration or Internet video, except in an official statement issued by Hillary Clinton.

Judicial Watch lawsuit focused on Mrs. Clinton?s involvement in the Benghazi scandal:

    Any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to notes, updates, or reports created in response to the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S, Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. This request includes but is not limited to, notes, taken by then Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton or employees of the Office of the Secretary of State during the attack and its immediate aftermath.

The chain of internal emails tracks the events surrounding the terrorist attack in real time beginning immediately upon its inception.

On September 11, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Maria Sand (who was then a Special Assistant to Mrs. Clinton) forwarded an email from the State Department?s Operations Center entitled ?U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi is Under Attack (SBU) [Sensitive But Unclassified]? to Cheryl Mills (then-Chief of Staff), Jacob Sullivan (then-Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy), Joseph McManus (then-Hillary Clinton?s Executive Assistant), and a list of other Special Assistants in the Secretary?s office:


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Post by: jafo2010 on February 26, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
Again, I say the bimbo does not run in 2016.  She has Benghazi, and Bill Clinton will be up to his earlobes with Teengate.  The Clintons will finally disappear in shame, as they should.


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Post by: apples on February 27, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
Again, I say the bimbo does not run in 2016.  She has Benghazi, and Bill Clinton will be up to his earlobes with Teengate.  The Clintons will finally disappear in shame, as they should.
I think you are correct.


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Post by: apples on March 01, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
Lying About Benghazi Sole Hillary Accomplishment

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/022715-741367-carly-fiorina-name-one-accomplishment.htm

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Scandal: Documents from Judicial Watch show that Hillary Clinton's closest advisers knew from the onset, before she launched an inflammatory video lie, that Benghazi was a terrorist attack for which Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility.

'Mrs. Clinton, name an accomplishment," Carly Fiorina, former Hewlett-Packard CEO and prospective 2016 GOP presidential candidate, asked Thursday at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference.

Last year, when ABC's Diane Sawyer asked the former secretary of state that question, Mrs. Clinton changed the subject, not even bothering to mention dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

Nor is she likely to mention Benghazi, a place now synonymous with the failure of the foreign policy she helped orchestrate. Benghazi has become yet another example of why our friends don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us.

As we have noted, at 10:07 p.m. Washington, D.C., time on Sept. 11, 2012, Clinton's State Department issued a statement that read: "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to an inflammatory material posted on the Internet. ... Let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

This was the origin of the lie that the Benghazi terrorist attack was caused by an Internet video offensive to Muslims.

It would be a lie Hillary Clinton would repeat to the parents of the Benghazi dead in front of their sons' caskets when they arrived at Andrews AFB.

It would be repeated by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on the Sunday talk show circuit and by President Obama no fewer than six times before the United Nations.

This was an all-too-quick and curious assignment of blame that flew in the face of information flowing to the State Department confirming a terrorist attack.

Last Thursday, Judicial Watch issued a press release announcing that on Feb. 11 it had "uncovered documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing that top aides for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, including her then-chief of staff Cheryl Mills, knew from the onset that the Benghazi mission compound was under attack by armed assailants tied to a terrorist group."

The documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, make no mention of a reaction to an Internet video.

But they do contain references to an attack for which the al-Qaida-affiliated terrorist group Ansar al-Sharia had taken credit, information available to the State Department before it released the statement implicating a video.

On Sept. 11, 2012, at 4:07 p.m. Eastern time, Maria Sand, then-special assistant to Mrs. Clinton, forwarded an email from the State Department's Operation Center entitled "U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi is Under Attack" to Mills and other State Department officials, including Joseph McManus, then Clinton's special assistant.

That email read, in part: "The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well."

There was no mention of any spontaneous protest beforehand.

Another email, sent at 6:06 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2012, to Mills and McManus with the subject line "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility For Benghazi Attack (SBU)," said "(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and call for attack on Embassy Tripoli."

Congressional and eyewitness testimony since has confirmed that while there was much


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Post by: jafo2010 on March 02, 2015, 03:01:22 AM
Bill's Island Teengate and Hillary's negligence with Benghazi are the two final nails in the coffin of the political future of anyone named Clinton.

Webb will be running for certain, and a few others that were not thinking about it prior to Teengate.  Look for a race on the Democommie side.  I am 90% certain Clinton will not run.


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Post by: apples on March 15, 2015, 03:41:29 PM
On Benghazi, a timeline of State Department obstruction

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/on-benghazi-a-timeline-of-state-department-obstruction/article/2561524

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When did the House Select Committee on Benghazi first learn that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton kept a secret email system? When did the State Department finally turn over even some of those emails to investigators? When did State first admit it didn't even possess all the former secretary's documents? That information, and more, is contained in a timeline created by the Benghazi committee as investigators seek to piece together just what the Obama administration did in response to House requests for information about the September 11, 2012 terror attack that left four Americans dead. The timeline isn't an official committee report or publication; it's just an informal summary compiled to help members keep dates straight as they assess the State Department's lack of cooperation. The timeline doesn't include every significant date in the Benghazi investigation, but it does give readers an idea of what Republican investigators have been up against as they've tried to uncover the story of Benghazi. What follows is a fleshed-out version of the timetable ? in my words, not the committee's ? based on information from committee sources.

September 11, 2012 ? The story starts, of course, the day terrorists attacked U.S. facilities in Benghazi, killing Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three others. Administration statements in the immediate aftermath ? specifically, claims that the attack was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video on the Internet ? raise suspicion among Republicans, who come to believe they have not been told the whole story.

September 20, 2012 ? Nine days after the attack, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Calif., chairman of the House Subcommittee on National Security, Homeland Defense, and Foreign Operations, which is part of the larger Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, sends a document request to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The request is for all information the Department has about the attack, and it specifically includes "any written, recorded, or graphic matter of any nature whatsoever, regardless of how recorded, and whether original or copy, including, but not limited to, the following: memoranda, reports, expense reports, books, manuals, instructions, financial reporters, working papers, records, notes, letters, notices, confirmations, telegrams, receipts, appraisals, pamphlets, magazines, newspapers, prospectuses, inter-office and intra-office communications, electronic mail (e-mail), contracts, cables, notations of any type of conversation, telephone call, meeting or other communication?" The list went on and on. There was no way any State Department official could fail to realize that the request covered Clinton's email. Yet none are handed over.

August 1, 2013 ? The first year after the attack brings frustration after frustration for congressional investigators. The State Department was "notoriously tardy in their responses," recalls Chaffetz. "They are not swift, to say the least." So on August 1, 2013, the Oversight committee issued two subpoenas, one for the State Department documents that had been covered but not produced after earlier requests, and the second for documents related to Secretary Clinton's internal, self-exonerating State Department investigation known as the Accountability Review Board.

April 17, 2014 ? More than a year and a half after the first request, after a halting and incomplete production of information, the State Department sends its last group of documents to the Oversight committee. None of the productions ever contained any emails either to or from Clinton.

May 8, 2014 ? The House creates the Select Committee on Benghazi, naming Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., as chairman. The new committee effectively inherits the subpoenas and document requests originally sent out by the Oversight committee. Representatives of the new committee meet with administration officials in hopes of a "reset" of relations that will lead to improved State Department cooperation.

August 11, 2014 ? The State Department sends its first group of documents to the new Benghazi committee, a partial response to a previous subpoena. The production contains a few ? less than 10 ? emails either to or from Clinton. Committee staffers notice immediately that the emails are from a previously unseen address, hdr22@clintonemail.com. Meanwhile, the committee presses State to meet its legal obligation to fully respond to the pair of subpoenas originally issued in August 2013.

October 2014 ? At some point in this month, the State Department sends a request to all former secretaries of state, including Clinton, asking them to provide records from their time in office. Months later, State would admit that the request was the result of the Benghazi committee's push for information from Clinton.

November 18, 2014 ? The Benghazi committee sends another request to the State Department asking for emails to and from Clinton relating to the Libya attack. This time, committee staffers include instructions specifically demanding emails that were sent or received on any @clintonemail.com account.

December 2, 2014 ? After the request to the State Department, the Benghazi committee sends a second request, this one to Clinton's personal lawyer, David Kendall ? the man who in the 1990s helped President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton fight through the various scandals of Bill Clinton's presidency. The request specifically asks for emails to or from the @clintonemail.com account that relate in any way to Libya.

December 29, 2014 ? Kendall sends a non-response response to the Benghazi committee request. Kendall tells the committee he has "referred [the request] to the State Department, which will be responding to your request, as it is in a position to produce any responsive emails."

February 13, 2015 ? The State Department sends the Benghazi committee 850 pages of Hillary Clinton emails, from two different @clintonemail.com accounts.

February 27, 2015 ? During a staff meeting, the State Department shocks some on the Benghazi committee by admitting for the first time that the only Clinton emails the Department possesses are those provided by Hillary Clinton herself. Department officials also reveal that Clinton used her secret email system exclusively and did not use a government account. When the committee asks how many emails Clinton has given to State, officials decline to answer.

March 2, 2015 ? The email story breaks in the New York Times. The paper reports Clinton provided 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department, which is news to the Benghazi committee.

March 3, 2015 ? The Benghazi committee sends "preservation letters" to Clinton and to her email hosting company ordering them to protect, and not to destroy, any records.

March 4, 2015 ? The Benghazi committee issues two subpoenas "for all communications of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton related to Libya and to the State Department for other individuals who have information pertinent to the investigation," according to a committee spokesman. One subpoena goes to Clinton, the other to the State Department.

March 10, 2015 ? Clinton holds a brief news conference, during which she announces she had about 60,000 emails on her secret system. Of those, Clinton says she deemed about half, or 30,000 emails, to be private, and destroyed them. A frustrated chairman Gowdy responds that he


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on March 15, 2015, 06:27:58 PM
Clinton is corrupt, plain and simple.


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Post by: apples on April 09, 2015, 12:00:21 PM
Libya Uncovers 'New Elements' in Killing of US Ambassador in Benghazi

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/04/08/libya-uncovers-new-elements-in-killing-of-us-ambassador-in-benghazi/

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(AFP) ? Libya?s internationally recognised parliament said Tuesday it has uncovered ?new elements? behind the 2012 assassination of the US ambassador when the American consulate was stormed in eastern city Benghazi.

?I have been tasked today with leading a team of inquiry,? Tareq Saqar al-Jeruchi, deputy head of the parliament?s security and defence committee, told AFP.

He said the team had ?new elements on the real perpetrators of the attack? and would work closely with the FBI and Congressional commissions of inquiry, although he did not elaborate on the identities of the assailants.

A Libyan parliamentary delegation is to travel to the United States for consultations with members of Congress, Jeruchi said.

Christopher Stevens, the ambassador, and


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on April 09, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Benghazi would never have happened, those four men would never have died, if it wasn't for the criminal negligence of Obama and Clinton.

I mean really, the queen utters "what differences does it make?"  and everyone just writes it off in the who gives a sh*t.

Benghazi represents the total failure and less than poor leadership of Obama and CLinton.  One has to do something and fail for it to be considered poor.  These two ivy league primadonnas did nothing, so what level is there below poor performance?

Both were derelict in their duty, and Obama should be impeached immediately.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 09, 2015, 03:32:15 PM
Benghazi would never have happened, those four men would never have died, if it wasn't for the criminal negligence of Obama and Clinton.

I mean really, the queen utters "what differences does it make?"  and everyone just writes it off in the who gives a sh*t.

Benghazi represents the total failure and less than poor leadership of Obama and CLinton.  One has to do something and fail for it to be considered poor.  These two ivy league primadonnas did nothing, so what level is there below poor performance?

Both were derelict in their duty, and Obama should be impeached immediately.
Look at all the other outposts/embassys that o has given to the enemy. Heck in Yemen the US isn't even going to help any American get out. The said call India. 500mil of arms to Houthis. All those new toys for Isis in Iraq. Other places I forget now who got 'mistake' drops of arms and food from USA. Once  or twice  or 3 times mistake. Not any longer. It is a plan


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Post by: jafo2010 on April 09, 2015, 04:33:28 PM
There is no doubt that the T-baller President has something devious up his sleeve.

Suffice to say, the do nothing dead from the neck up Congress sits back and will do nothing over the next 2 + years.

Obama has been a major enabler of the arab spring.  He was serving some master in all of that....who?

The days just will not count down fast enough for me.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on October 20, 2015, 01:16:38 PM
Judicial Watch: New State Documents Show Quick White House Effort to Link Benghazi to Internet Video

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-state-documents-show-quick-white-house-effort-to-link-benghazi-to-internet-video/

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(Washington, DC) ? Judicial Watch today released new State Department documents that raise more questions about the September 11, 2012, terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission at Benghazi, Libya.  The documents show the White House contacted YouTube over an Internet video as one of its first moves after the initial attack.

The documents, from the agency?s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, were provided to Judicial Watch in response to a court order in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on October 16, 2014, (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:14-cv-01733)). The lawsuit seeks ?any and all logs, reports, or other records? the Washington-based Diplomatic Security Command Center produced between September 10, 2012, and September 13, 2012, relating to the terrorist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya.?

The documents detail that only three hours after the initial attack on U.S. personnel in Benghazi, the White House contacted YouTube in an apparent effort to initially blame the assault on an obscure ?Pastor John video,? rather than filmmaker Nakoula ?Mark? Basseley Nakoula. The administration falsely claimed that Nakoula?s video, ?Innocence of Muslims,? provoked the attack.  The email also references the involvement of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Judicial Watch, through separate litigation, previously uncovered documents that show Obama White House officials set Hillary Clinton?s Benghazi response):

    From:               [REDACTED]

    Sent:                September 11, 2012 9:11 PM

    To:                   DSCC_Managment_Team; DSCC_Watch Team

    Subject:            (S//NF) [REDACTED] Libya

    Per Ambassador Mull [Stephen Mull, then Executive Secretary of the State Department] after SVTS [Secure Video Teleconference System] conference:

    DOD is looking at various resources.

    [REDACTED INFORMATION]

    S [then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton] expected to make statements one of which may confirm KIA, notification of next of kin is pending confirmation.  DCM The Hague was to call OPS when completed.

    White House is reaching out to U-Tube to advise ramifications of posting of the Pastor Jon video.

(The ?Pastor Jon? reference may have been to a rarely viewed video by Oregon-based Pastor Jon Courson entitled God vs. Allah, a low-key exposition of the Biblical book of Kings.)

The documents also include a previously Secret ?Attack Timeline,? dated September 12, 2012, which raised additional questions about the Obama administration?s response to the attack.  The State Department Bureau of Diplomatic Security makes no mention of any spontaneous demonstration or Internet video in describing the Benghazi assault:

    At 1549 hrs, DSCC was notified that U.S. Mission Benghazi was under attack. At 1600 hrs, DSCC [Diplomatic Security Command Center] was notified by Regional Security Officer (RSO) Benghazi that armed individuals had entered the compound, and at 1614 hrs RSO Benghazi reported that an armed group had set fire to buildings inside the compound. The US Ambassador was visiting post from Tripoli, and as of 1614 hrs it was suspected that one of the buildings that had been set on fire was the building where the Ambassador was sheltering. [Redacted] Quick Reaction Force (QRF) responded from their off-compound Annex, but was turned back due to heavy hostile fire.

    As of 1700 hrs, [REDACTED] QRF and host nation militia (17 February Brigade) have redeployed to the compound. One Assistant RSO (ARSO) suffered injuries from smoke inhalation. This agent was in the Principal Officer?s Residence with U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and Information Program Officer (IPO) Sean P. Smith. All three moved to the safe haven when the attack began, but had to relocate to the roof as the building caught on fire. The agent reached the rooftop but lost contact with the other two. The agent reentered the residence and found the IPO killed in action (KIA), and was unable to locate the Ambassador. The agent had given his cell phone to the Ambassador.

The new timeline also confirms prior Judicial Watch disclosures that the State Department received intelligence that Ambassador Stevens may have been alive after the attack:

    The QRF and friendly militia forces were unable to locate the Ambassador, and pull back to the off-compound Annex. All classified material on the compound is secured by RSO [REDACTED] personnel. Embassy Tripoli receives a phone call from the injured ARSO?s cell phone (which had been left with the Ambassador) from a male caller saying he is at the hospital with an unresponsive male who matches a physical description of the Ambassador.  [REDACTED MATERIAL].  Tripoli charters an airplane and sends it to Benghazi with six personnel onboard as a response team.

The document also raises questions about whether a delay of personnel sent to Benghazi led to additional deaths:

    At 2215 hrs, Benghazi ARSO called DSCC to report that the [REDACTED] response team has been on the ground in Benghazi for approximately 60 minutes, but are waiting for the 17 February Brigade to escort them to [REDACTED].  DS Seniors ask ARSO about the identity of the reported white male in the hospital.  [REDACTED  MATERIAL] hospital for about two hours.  Henderson will call him after this call.

The timeline later details that the team did not leave for the airport for another 45 minutes and did not arrive at the Annex until 2313 hrs, nearly two hours after the team first arrived.  The timeline then details the second attack, which takes place only 17 minutes after the response team arrives:

    At 2332 hrs, ARSO reports that they are under mortar attack, with 3 to 4 rounds hitting the Annex. There are [REDACTED] injured and [REDACTED] the need for medical evacuation. The response team is on site and either inside or deployed to the roof. The agents are sheltering in place with 45-minutes to sunrise.

    At 2349 hrs, DS Special Agent [REDACTED] was reported hit during the mortar attack, which has since ceased. [REDACTED MATERIAL] All other DS agents are accounted for.

More than six hours after the initial terrorist assault, there remains only one plane available to evacuate injured and other personnel from Benghazi.  The timeline details that the plane takes off, leaving some personnel behind, including those killed in action.  Those remaining behind initially have to wait for the one plane to return from Tripoli, but are eventually rescued several hours later by a Libyan Air Force C-130 airplane.

The attack timeline also includes a section labeled ?Causes and Responsibility,? which is redacted completely.

Other timelines are included in the State Department materials.  These documents make no mention of Internet videos or demonstrations, for example one declassified timeline details:

    1550    The Diplomatic Security Command Center (DSCC) receives word that US Mission Benghazi is under attack by 15-20 armed hostiles.

    1615    RSO Benghazi advises hostile individuals setting fire to buildings on compound, including the one housing Ambassador Stevens, IPO Sean Smith, and ARSO [REDACTED] responds with a Quick Reaction Force (QRF) and takes fire from hostiles. QRF returns to Annex to regroup with host militia and redeploys.

The documents also reveal that at the time of the attack, the Department of Defense apparently had two government contractors in Benghazi working on weapons removal without the knowledge of the Department of State.

Judicial Watch has now filed 40 FOIA requests, a Mandatory Declassification Review, and at least 12 lawsuits against the Obama administration relating to the Benghazi terrorist attack. Currently, Judicial Watch is the only non-governmental organization in the nation litigating in federal court to uncover information withheld by the Obama administration about the events that transpired before, during, and following the Benghazi massacre.

?These documents show the Obama White House rushed to tie yet another video to the Benghazi attack, even before Ambassador Stevens was accounted for.  The Obama White House, evidently, was confused as to which Internet video to falsely blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack,? said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.  ?These documents show that the Obama White House should have been focused on rescuing our people under fire.  These documents detail delays and lack of support that raise questions about whether American lives were needlessly lost and put at risk during the Benghazi attack.?

In April 2014, Judicial Watch forced the release of State Department documents it had obtained, including an internal email showing then-White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials attempting to orchestrate a campaign to ?reinforce? President Obama and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being ?rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.? Other documents showed that State Department officials initially described the incident as an ?attack? and a possible kidnap attempt. The documents were obtained by Judicial Watch as a result of a June 21, 2013, FOIA lawsuit filed against the Department of State (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-00951)).  Judicial Watch?s release of the Rhodes email, which had been withheld by the Obama administration from Congress, caused the House of Representatives to approve the Select Committee on Benghazi, which is now led by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC).

In June 2013, Judicial Watch released the first seven photos depicting the devastating aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic and CIA facilities in Benghazi. The following November, it obtained 32 new documents from the Department of State, including 13 previously withheld photos depicting the carnage at the American diplomatic compound. The documents were obtained in response to a FOIA lawsuit filed against the State Department on February 25, 2013, (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1-13-cv-00242)).



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Post by: apples on January 11, 2016, 01:10:57 PM
'We were left behind': The Benghazi soldiers tell all

http://nypost.com/2016/01/09/we-were-left-behind-the-benghazi-soldiers-tell-all/

The first shots exploded around 9:40 p.m.
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On Sept. 11, 2012, a group of local fighters, AK-47s in hand, burst through the fortified front gate of a US outpost in Benghazi, Libya.

One very long night later, the diplomatic compound was engulfed in flames and a covert CIA base a mile away lay in ruins, partially reduced to rubble by mortar fire. Four Americans were dead, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens and two CIA members.

What happened in between is covered in "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi," a new film from "Transformers" director Michael Bay in theaters Friday.

It focuses on a team of six military contractors who happened to be stationed at the CIA base when the fighting broke out. They chose to join the battle, spending more than half a day repelling attackers.

    "We wanted it [the film] apolitical....it was a story of heroism. That was getting lost in the politics of it all."

The movie is based on the book "13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi" by Mitchell Zuckoff and that team of operatives.

"That's the reason we did the movie," one of the contractors, ex Marine Mark Geist, tells The Post. "No one has talked about those 13 hours and what happened."

Not that certain people haven't been trying to find out. The incident has become one of the most highly politicized events in modern US history. Who was to blame for the debacle? Republicans have been hellbent on pinning it on then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Congress has launched seven investigations, recorded dozens of hours of testimony and generated thousands of pages of documents.

But the men who were there say the movie has nothing to do with Washington, DC, or presidential campaigns.
Modal TriggerDirector Michael Bay and Pablo Schreiber on the set of "13 Hours."Photo: Paramount Pictures

"We wanted it apolitical," Kris "Tanto" Paronto, a former Army Ranger and one of the Benghazi six, tells The Post. "From the time we got the call to the time the last [CIA Global Response Staff member] got out of Benghazi 13 hours later, it was a story of heroism. That was getting lost in the politics of it all."

"For all of us, it was that the four [deceased] guys got honored in the way they should," operative and ex Marine Sergeant John "Tig" Tiegen, tells The Post.

"Politicians hijacked it. The right use it, the left use it, and the true story got lost," Paronto says. "The truth isn't political. Now, the truth may affect political aspirations, but hey, sorry, that's how it goes. We want people to know the true story, and if they want to use it as a determination of candidates, we can't stop that. But we're not going to get up there and say, 'You should pick this person.' "

The day began with signs of trouble.

At 6:43 a.m., a car bearing Libyan police markings filled with three men pulled up to the diplomatic outpost. One man got out, climbed to the second floor of a restaurant overlooking the outpost and began taking photos. By the time security was alerted, the men and the car had vanished.

A mile down the road at the Annex -- the walled, 2-acre, multibuilding compound that served as a base of operations for US covert intelligence services -- it was business as usual for the soldiers.
Modal TriggerFrom left, Kris "Tanto" Paronto, who is played by Schreiber, and John "Tig" Tiegen, who is played by Dominic Fumusa.Photo: Getty Images; Getty Images

Tiegen spent the morning accompanying the station chief, known only as "Bob," on meetings with Libyan officials. Tiegen also checked in at the outpost, where Stevens had just arrived the day before.

Geist exercised and played video games. Paronto worked on computer-mapping software, then watched the Liam Neeson movie "Wrath of the Titans."
Modal TriggerBoth John Krasinski (left) and David Denman's characters use pseudonymous names (Krasinski as "Jack Silva" and Denman as "Dave Benton") as their real identities have not been revealed.Photo: AP; Paramount Pictures

As the men prepared to turn in for the night, down the road at the outpost a Toyota pickup bearing police insignia pulled in front of the gate and idled there for 40 minutes.

Just as it drove off, shots rang out and there was an explosion. Several dozen heavily armed men poured through the front gate. The Libyans, who had been guarding it, quickly melted away.

The seven Americans inside quickly barricaded themselves in locked rooms. A distress call was sent to the embassy in Tripoli and to Washington. The attackers dumped diesel fuel around the grounds and set it alight.

Over at the Annex, the security team was told to grab their gear and assemble. They loaded guns and body armor into a waiting armored car as they watched flames rise from the nearby outpost.

    A lot of politicians don't realize that we were all in the military and we know a lot of the military guys, and they tell us things.

Before they could leave, however, the men were inexplicably told to "stand down" by Bob, the station chief. He preferred to let a friendly Libyan militia respond. (A congressional inquiry later concluded there was no evidence a "stand down" order was issued, but the "13 Hours" men say it happened.)

As they helplessly waited, a call from the outpost came over the radio: "If you don't get here soon, we're all going to die." The group took matters into its own hands. The three contractors were also joined by ex-SEALs Tyrone Woods and "Jack Silva" (played by "The Office alum John Krasinki in the film) and former Marine "Dave Benton," both pseudonymous names because their real identities have not been revealed.

The men made the journey to the outpost by car, then approached on foot. They arrived to find Stevens missing and officer Sean Smith dead from smoke inhalation.

As the team prepared to return to the Annex, with Smith's body in the trunk of their car, the compound came under fire again. A vicious counterattack by the group of Libyans began around 11 p.m.
Modal TriggerFrom left, Bay, Mark "Oz" Geist, Author Mitchell Zuckoff and John "Tig" Tiegen on the set of "13 Hours."Photo: Paramount Pictures

The team fought back. Tiegen climbed to a rooftop and killed a man aiming a rocket-propelled grenade launcher at one of the buildings. Minutes later, the operators and surviving outpost personnel were packed into two cars, driving the dangerous streets back to the Annex.

Around 12:30 a.m., cars full of enemy fighters began massing outside the Annex walls. A firefight began, and 10 minutes later, the first wave was repelled. More attacks followed before dawn broke. Suddenly, mortars rained down, landing atop a building and killing Woods and Glen Doherty, a former SEAL who'd arrived in the night from Tripoli.

He would be about the only outside assistance the Annex would get. Despite repeated calls for air support, none ever came. The Annex staff was ultimately evacuated to the airport and out of the country with the help of a Libyan militia. (Stevens was found by Libyans inside the outpost nearly dead from smoke inhalation. He later passed away.)
Modal TriggerThe men who were there say the movie made them miss their life in Libya, and want to return.Photo: AP

"This wasn't the worst [firefight of my life], but it was the longest," Paronto says. "The only difference with this one was that we were left behind. That's just the truth. No support came. Period."

"There are pilots that come up to us and say, 'Sorry, dude. We were ready to go,' " Geist says.
Modal TriggerInside the U.S. Consulate, two days after the 2012 attack.Photo: AP

The movie suggests that F-16s or gunships could have been scrambled from Europe, though a congressional committee determined none were available to make it in time.

The men who were there disagree.
Modal TriggerThe U.S. Consulate the day after the attack. Paranto said the firefight wasn't the worst he's been in, but it was definitely the longest.Photo: Reuters

"A lot of politicians don't realize that we were all in the military and we know a lot of the military guys, and they tell us things," Tiegen says. "One pilot said to us that [the government] was afraid of another 'Black Hawk Down' scenario."


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Post by: jafo2010 on January 11, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
Obama and Clinton both, along with whoever was head of the military should be indicted convicted and dispatched for this betrayal.

This was so cowardly and un-American that anyone involved should suffer the pains of hell for an eternity.


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Post by: apples on January 14, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
Attkisson: 'Overwhelming Body of Evidence' Benghazi Rescue Teams Turned Back

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/13/sharyl-attkisson/

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Wednesday on Newsmax TV's "The Steve Malzberg Show," while discussing her Benghazi investigation "Full Measure," host Sharyl Attkisson said there is now "overwhelming" evidence that rescue teams sent to aid the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012 had turned back before arriving.

Attkisson said, "We also spoke to sources and have some email evidence that talks about special forces that were not far away in Europe that we were told were assigned to respond in the event of a case just like this, and yet were turned back according to witnesses. This is something that the president and the White House has steadfastly denied, but there's now what I would call an overwhelming body of evidence that leads us to believe that somebody stopped a number of teams and potential rescuers from entering Libya or going to Benghazi to help while those attacks were underway. They could have gotten there. According to experts and people that have information we spoke to, they could have gotten there before the last two Americans died. Those attacks went on for eight hours."


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Post by: jafo2010 on January 14, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
Whoever ordered the stand down should face criminal charges.  And if Obama was involved with this mess, he should be immediately impeached.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on March 24, 2016, 07:38:42 PM
The Benghazi Brief ? Three Year Anniversary?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/12/the-benghazi-brief-three-year-anniversary/

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The ?Benghazi Brief? remains the most controversial research report we have ever produced. The brief contains over two years of research and hundreds of very specific citations supporting it.

obama-hillary-holding-hands-wh-photoThe Brief has also been challenged and with extensive vetting factually withstood all scrutiny. The report, while exhaustive in detail, remains the strongest summary of events surrounding the two years leading up to the Benghazi Libya attack on 9/11/12.

We have repeatedly stated The Benghazi Brief, and ALL of the cited information contained therein, is available for use by anyone who has a goal of learning and/or communicating the truth surrounding the controversial events.

We present the brief so that a larger understanding, a factual understanding, is possible. It can be used in part or in whole, or edited for use by any party. Anyone can do whatever they want with the detailed information provided. Our only request  ? the truth contained within be maintained.

God Bless.

benghazi4

We know from the Bret Baier interview with Hillary Clinton that she was physically located at her 7th floor office in Washington DC on the night of the attack. Unfortunately we also know during the November 2012 Thanksgiving holiday a mysterious fire took place in that building. Well, actually directly above her exact office ? cause undetermined.

A ?fire? which preceded an unfortunate slip and fall for the Secretary, resulting in a concussion, which led to the discovery of a blood clot, that ultimately delayed her congressional testimony before a Senate Hearing into the events of the night in question.

We know the Libyan uprising began on February 10th of 2011, and we also know that sometime around the end of February 2011 President Obama signed a presidential directive authorizing the State Dept and CIA to begin a covert operation to arm the Libyan ?rebels?.

We also know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional C


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 04, 2016, 03:20:15 PM
Millennials Know: Benghazi She Wrote

http://townhall.com/columnists/katiekieffer/2016/04/04/millennials-know-benghazi-she-wrote-n2142626

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Clickety-click-click, went Hillary Clinton?s keyboard on the evening of Sept. 11, 2012 as she wrote to her daughter Chelsea:

"Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an Al Queda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow."

Yet, the very next morning, Clinton made remarks leading the American people to believe that an amateur online video??inflammatory material posted on the internet??was responsible for the attack, not al-Qaeda.

Former President Bill Clinton frittered away hours?hiding a buxom young intern in the Oval Office?and in 1999 missed a key opportunity to take out Osama bin Laden. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton likewise wasted time?hiding her emails?and missed a chance to stop a repeat 9/11 attack on American soil.

Four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens and a Millennial named Sean Smith, were killed in Benghazi due to arson and mortar attacks initiated by militants linked to al-Qaeda and Ansar al-Sharia.  Soon after the attack, we learned there wasactionable intelligence, months in advance, forewarning the State Department of severe security vulnerabilities at the Benghazi facilities.

Political research group Evolving Strategies recently showed a 30-second anti-Hillary Benghazi ad to ?a randomized-controlled trial with over 1,000 respondents aged 18 to 34" (Millennials) and found that after watching this video,


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on April 22, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
Benghazi: What Did Bill Clinton Know & When Did He Know It?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/clinton-inc-benghazi/

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New documents obtained by Judicial Watch raise questions about the role of Clinton Inc. in the Benghazi debacle, particularly the involvement of Bill Clinton and longtime Clinton hatchet man Sidney Blumenthal.

Mrs. Clinton, seeking to ease concerns about her ties to the Clintons? powerful political machine, famously pledged as secretary of state-designate not to ?participate personally and substantially? in matters relating to the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Global Initiative. We now know that promise was swiftly broken. Blumenthal?a man so hated by the Obama White House that it banned the State Department from hiring him?was secretly put on Mrs. Clinton?s payroll in an arms-length arrangement funded by the Clinton Foundation and Clinton ally David Brock. Judicial Watch and the New York Post documented the deep ties between the Clinton State Department and Blumenthal here.

Blumenthal was active in Libyan affairs. He privately urged Mrs. Clinton to take a more aggressive military role in country and to claim more credit for Muammar Gaddafi?s downfall. He also promoted a Libya deal sought by U.S. defense contractor Osprey Global Solutions. Among Blumenthal?s many memos to Secretary of State Clinton are several that claim to possess an inside track to the thinking of the new Libyan president, Mohammed Magariaf.

According to the new Judicial Watch documents, while the Benghazi facilities were under attack on September 11, Clinton phoned Magariaf at 6:49 p.m. Washington time, asking the president ?to provide additional security to the compound immediately as there is a gun battle going on, which I understand Ansar as-Sharia is claiming responsibility for.?

Three hours later, Clinton issued a statement blaming the attack on an Internet video: ?Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.?


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on May 12, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
'We could have been there': Squadron member speaks out on stalled Benghazi response

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/12/could-have-been-there-squadron-member-speaks-out-on-stalled-benghazi-response.html?intcmp=hpbt2

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His squadron got the alert: a ?real world mission was going down.? 

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The team ? at Aviano Air Base in northeastern Italy ? raced to the field and was briefed, as planes were armed and prepared to launch. Hundreds of miles away, fellow Americans were under attack in Benghazi.

"There were people everywhere,? said the witness, who was on the ground that night but wished to remain anonymous. ?That flight line was full of people, and we were all ready to go? to Benghazi.

Only they were waiting for the order. It never came.

?The whole night we were told that we are waiting on a call,? he told Fox News.

This account is from a squadron member at Aviano the night of the Sept. 11, 2012, terror attack in Benghazi. The source, the first in his squadron to speak out publicly since that attack, is going public to explain ? in his view ? that more could have been done to save Americans under attack that night.

He asked that his identity be protected for fear of retribution. He says others in his squadron also have wanted to talk about Benghazi from the beginning, but no others have been interviewed and all are afraid of the potential backlash from speaking out.

?I'm not trying to give away any type of [information] that could ever harm the military,? the source told Fox News. ?That is never my plan. I feel that some things need to come to light.?

Namely, he said, that a team was ready to go that night to help protect Americans under fire in Benghazi ? an account that runs counter to multiple official reports, including from a House committee, a timeline provided by the military and the controversial State Department Accountability Review Board investigation, which concluded the interagency response to Benghazi was ?timely and appropriate.?

The source said: "I definitely believe that our aircraft could have taken off and gotten there in a timely manner, maybe three hours at the most, in order to at least stop that second mortar attack ? and basically save lives that day."

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed in that second wave. Ambassador Chris Stevens and information officer Sean Smith were killed in the initial attack on the main compound.

?We could have been there. That's the worst part,? the source said.

The source who spoke with Fox News challenged the military claim that a re-fueling tanker wasn?t available. He said American jets routinely refuel by using what?s called a ?hot pit maneuver,? which allows the jets to land and then get fuel without shutting off the engines.

Multiple sources say there were multiple locations available the night of the attack.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on May 12, 2016, 04:58:22 PM
Four Americans are dead because of Obama and Clinton.  It could have been 50 dead Americans.

But according to Hillary Clinton, "what difference does it make?"


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on June 11, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
New Benghazi Witness: We Could Have Saved Lives That Day

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/11/new-benghazi-witness-we-could-have-saved-lives-day

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An Air Force squadron member who was stationed in Italy during the 2012 Benghazi attacks spoke out on Special Report, saying that more could have done to help the four Americans who died that night.

"I definitely believe that our aircraft could have taken off and got there in a timely manner, maybe three hours at the most, in order to...at least stop that second mortar attack and have those guys running for the hills, and basically save lives that day," he said, choosing not to reveal his identity.

The man said the military's excuse that that a refueling tanker wasn't available is invalid because American jets routinely refuel using a "hot pit maneuver," which allows jets to land and get fueled without shutting off the engines.

He says multiple occasions were available the night of the attack.

"As far as I'm concerned, we're the world's greatest air force. When we need something done and we need to save some American lives, we're gonna get it done. They just kept telling me 'We're waiting on a call, we're waiting on the call.'"

He added that he still feels a sense of fault for not flying to Libya that fateful night.


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: jafo2010 on June 12, 2016, 08:20:16 PM
Obama and Clinton wanted to cover up their gun running weapons from Libya to Syria.  They did not care in the least for USA assets on the ground.  Not even a little.

This is an impeachable offense, yet Congress has sat for years with their thumbs up their *ss!


Title: Re: Benghazi thread..[up-to-date-info here]
Post by: apples on July 01, 2016, 12:30:01 PM
Hillary Clinton called just ONE of the 35 Benghazi survivors in the months after the terror attack ? and only because right-hand-woman Huma Abedin told her to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3666747/Hillary-called-just-ONE-35-Benghazi-survivors-months-terror-attack-right-hand-woman-Huma-Abedin-told-to.html

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The Democratic presidential nominee ? then the secretary of state ? waited at least 48 days to speak with any of the Benghazi terror-attack survivors, according to testimony from her top aide Huma Abedin
That contradicts Clinton's own testimony, in which she told Congress that she 'talked to the survivors when they came back to the United States'
Abedin said under oath that Clinton had called just one of them in all of 2012 ? a gravely injured Diplomatic Security agent ? because she had emailed her boss to say she should
It is believed that 35 Americans survived the attack and were evacuated, some with severe injuries
Abedin was deposed last year under oath by congressional Benghazi Committee members and staff attorneys


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Post by: apples on July 11, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
State Dept Made Marines Wait Around, Change Uniforms 4 TIMES During Benghazi Attack


http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/28/state-dept-made-marines-wait-around-change-uniforms-4-times-during-benghazi-attack/

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A House report released Tuesday shows in the immediate aftermath of the Benghazi attacks, Department of State officials mulled over asking Marines, who were being considered for deployment, to take off their uniforms, as officials were concerned American flags on the uniforms would damage diplomatic relations in the region.

According to the 800-page report, as the situation in Benghazi was unfolding, State Department officials held a teleconference call to ostensibly decide the best response to the attacks. For a large part of the discussion, officials decided to talk about the origins of the attack, instead of weighing different rescue options.

White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough was in charge of the call. Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was also on the call.

When officials finally got to the topic of rescue plans, one State official raised the question of whether Marines on call should be deployed wearing civilian clothing, rather than military uniforms.

In response to queries from investigators, Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy justified the comments by saying the Americans flags on the uniforms of U.S. military personnel might have hampered diplomatic relations.

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