Senate Votes Down the Repeal of the Health Care Law

[JohnBrowdie]

Senate Votes Down the Repeal of the Health Care Law

51-47

[apples]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/02/5977699-united-senate-dems-defeat-health-care-repeal-measure-

Carrie Dann writes:Senate Democrats remained united on Wednesday in killing a Republican effort to repeal the health care bill signed into law last March. 

As expected, no Democrats voted against a procedural motion that effectively defeated a GOP amendment -- sponsored by Republican Leader Mitch McConnell and tacked on to an unrelated aviation bill -- to repeal the health legislation. 

All Republicans voted together in favor of the McConnell-sponsored amendment. The vote was 47-51.

The House passed the repeal measure last month.

But the defeat of the equivalent legislation in the Senate means that the ultimate fate of the health care bill will likely not be settled until the Supreme Court hears an expected constitutional challenge to the law

I see MSMBC has this up right away. Yet the Judges ruling calling Obamacare unconstitutional was not on that website most of that day.

[JohnBrowdie]

not a single dem vote.  so be it, dead guys.  see you in 2012

Although several states indicated they will not implement the health care law now that one federal district judge has ruled it void, a Republican effort Wednesday to add an amendment to an airports construction bill to repeal the law failed by a Senate vote of 51-47.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's decision to use the House-passed repeal as an amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration legislation did not win a single Democrat vote.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/02/senate-debates-health-care-law-anew-wholesale-repeal-unlikely/#ixzz1CqeYAtl5

[JohnBrowdie]

I merged the two threads.  in a merge, first posted floats to the top.

[apples]

I merged the two threads.  in a merge, first posted floats to the top.

I did not do a search. my bad.

[apples]

I merged the two threads.  in a merge, first posted floats to the top.

we need a forum vote on your new avatar ...i am thinking? AAAGgggggghhhhhh. just wrong...

[JohnBrowdie]

meanwhile, the dems rearrange the deckchairs on the titanic by repealing the 1099 language of obamacare

Senate votes to repeal healthcare law's '1099' tax reporting language

The Senate tonight voted to repeal controversial language in last year's healthcare bill that requires companies to report goods and services transactions worth $600 or more to the IRS.

The Senate voted in favor of an amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration authorization bill that would eliminate the tax language. The amendment was offered by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), and was similar to a Republican proposal from Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.) that has 61 Senate co-sponsors.

The Stabenow amendment would repeal the language and ask the Office of Management and Budget to rescind $44 billion in discretionary, unobligated funds in order to offset the cost of repeal. The amendment would explicitly exempt the Departments of Defense and Veterans' Affairs, and the Social Security Administration, from these budget rescissions.

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[JohnBrowdie]

eh.  no big drama.  dups happen, no matter how hard you try to avoid them.  we merge 'em, so no one's comments are lost.

I did not do a search. my bad.

[JohnBrowdie]

we need a forum vote on your new avatar ...i am thinking? AAAGgggggghhhhhh. just wrong...

 

[Miss Mia]

Reagan’s Solicitor General Charles Fried: ‘I Am Quite Sure That The Health Care Mandate Is Constitutional’

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I am quite sure that the health care mandate is constitutional. … My authorities are not recent. They go back to John Marshall, who sat in the Virginia legislature at the time they ratified the Constitution, and who, in 1824, in Gibbons v. Ogden, said, regarding Congress’ Commerce power, “what is this power? It is the power to regulate. That is—to proscribe the rule by which commerce is governed.” To my mind, that is the end of the story of the constitutional basis for the mandate.

The mandate is a rule—more accurately, “part of a system of rules by which commerce is to be governed,” to quote Chief Justice Marshall. And if that weren’t enough for you—though it is enough for me—you go back to Marshall in 1819, in McCulloch v. Maryland, where he said “the powers given to the government imply the ordinary means of execution. The government which has the right to do an act”—surely, to regulate health insurance—“and has imposed on it the duty of performing that act, must, according to the dictates of reason, be allowed to select the means.” And that is the Necessary and Proper Clause. [...]

I think that one thing about Judge Vinson’s opinion, where he said that if we strike down the mandate everything else goes, shows as well as anything could that the mandate is necessary to the accomplishment of the regulation of health insurance.
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[JohnBrowdie]

I'm not going to play dueling links with other people's thoughts.  that's just a waste of time.  I can justify my own opinions.

and I'm sure that I couldn't possibly care less what some guy from the reagan administration thinks about the constitutionality of obamacare.  no more than the obamites thought about his opinions when he was IN the reagan administraion, if any of them were born yet.

[Miss Mia]

I'm not going to play dueling links with other people's thoughts.  that's just a waste of time.  I can justify my own opinions.

and I'm sure that I couldn't possibly care less what some guy from the reagan administration thinks about the constitutionality of obamacare.  no more than the obamites thought about his opinions when he was IN the reagan administraion, if any of them were born yet.

I just thought it was an interesting article.  *shrug*

[JohnBrowdie]

I obviously had the afternoon jumbo coffee with a double shot of espresso too late in the afternoon.

(and I owe you a *shrug* smiley  )

I just thought it was an interesting article.  *shrug*

[Miss Mia]

I obviously had the afternoon jumbo coffee with a double shot of espresso too late in the afternoon.

(and I owe you a *shrug* smiley  )

[GeronL]

we need a forum vote on your new avatar ...i am thinking? AAAGgggggghhhhhh. just wrong...

We need someone who can photoshop. Obama needs to be smaller and off center while a giant eyeball is hovering over him.