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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2011, 05:04:46 PM »

one favor that the unrest in eqypt is doing for the administration is keeping the furor over obamacare (specifically, it's being declared unconstitutional and the repeal efforts) below the fold.


Yes it is convenient for him. May be the reason why they are handling it this way. He says nothing it upsets many and keeps it in the news. It is always what is in the other hand with them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2011, 05:07:01 PM »

seems like the obamites would be careful not to speculate wildly about a guy's religion.  jus' sayin'

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2011, 05:32:34 PM »

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US: Muslim Brotherhood could play role in Egypt

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_EGYPT_MUSLIM_BROTHERHOOD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-02-02-16-53-42

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States is acknowledging that the hardline Muslim Brotherhood may play a role in Egypt's transition from autocracy if it agrees to a peaceful, democratic process.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley says the U.S. isn't dictating Egypt's shift from President Hosni Mubarak's three decades in power. He says it is up to Egyptians to determine the process, but he called on the Muslim Brotherhood - which is a banned group - to respect democratic processes.

Crowley said U.S. officials haven't met with members of the Muslim Brotherhood though they've spoken to other opposition groups.
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2011, 05:59:10 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

link for up to date news.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 05:59:45 PM »

of course, the thugs are all wearing jerseys, so you can tell who's team they are on.  andersopn cooper has his head so far up his ass that he wouldn't be able to tell who beat his ass if they left a calling card.

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Pro-Mubarak demonstrators attack journalists

(CNN) -- Demonstrators who appear to support Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak are targeting journalists for attacks on the streets of Cairo.

A Belgian reporter on Wednesday was arrested, beaten and accused of being a spy by men supporting the Mubarak regime in the central Cairo neighborhood of Choubra, according to one news media watchdog group. An Egyptian reporter was found severely beaten several hours after a group of men seized him in Tahrir Square, according to his news organization.

Journalists from the BBC, ABC News and CNN were also attacked. Among them were CNN's Anderson Cooper and Hala Gorani.

The attacks have drawn condemnation from advocacy groups for journalists, one of which accused the Egyptian government of being behind the attacks.

"The Egyptian government is employing a strategy of eliminating witnesses to their actions," said Mohamed Abdel Dayem, Middle East and North Africa program coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists. "The government has resorted to blanket censorship, intimidation, and today a series of deliberate attacks on journalists carried out by pro-government mobs."

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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 06:34:21 PM »

of course, the thugs are all wearing jerseys, so you can tell who's team they are on.  andersopn cooper has his head so far up his ass that he wouldn't be able to tell who beat his ass if they left a calling card.

It is funny for me. Did they think this bunch who live in the 7th century would greet them with open arms?
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 07:09:15 PM »

interesting that the worse it gets, the more we see john mccain -- the guy that got beat in 2008, all the while warning us of his opponent's inexperience in foreign policy --  being interviewed on television.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2011, 07:38:05 PM »

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Obama Stands by Muslim Brotherhood Endorsement

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142101

Obama's new position, while not totally surprising, is worrisome to many. "The White House appears to be leaving Hosni Mubarak, an ally for three decades and lynchpin of Mideast stability, twisting slowly in the wind," writes David Horowitz of the Freedom Center. "And worse, it appears to be open to allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to play a key role in a 'reformed' Egyptian government, as long as the organization renounces violence and supports democracy. If the Obama White House really believes this is possible, it is even more hopelessly incompetent than we imagined!"

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, with 600,000 members, is not on official U.S. terrorism lists, as are Hamas and Hizbullah, but the American government has had no contact with it because of what Gibbs said were "questions over its commitment to the rule of law, democracy and nonviolence."

It stands for the re-establishment of the Islamic Empire (Caliphate), the takeover, spiritually or otherwise, of the entire world, and jihad and martyrdom. It has front organizations in the UK, France, and the United States
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2011, 11:49:09 PM »

it couldn't stay peaceful forever.  but I wonder how the media can spot supporters of mubarak so easily, but couldn't spot a militant islamist before he blew himself (and 50 others) to mars.

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Gunfire Erupts in Central Cairo

Bursts of gunfire are erupting in the area around Cairo's Tahrir Square as pro- and anti-government protesters continue to defy an Egyptian government curfew.

News reports cite witnesses saying at least three people have been killed in the latest violence early Thursday morning.

On Wednesday, supporters of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak charged into the square on horseback and camels while others rained firebombs from rooftops in what appeared to be an orchestrated assault against protesters calling for an end to his near-30-year-rule.

Anti-government demonstrators, after first trying to respond peacefully, fought back with rocks and Molotov cocktails as battles broke out around Tahrir Square. Doctors set up a makeshift clinic in a mosque near the square to help the more than 640 injured. Egypt's health ministry says three people were killed in Wednesday's clashes.

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2011, 11:03:13 AM »

three paragraphs because someone was mean to some reporters.  and at the top of the story, too.  the media can't keep it's hands out of it's own pants;  it just LOVES to write about itself.

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The were reports of journalists being intimidated or roughed up, and a U.S. State Department spokesman condemned such actions.

Multiple witnesses told The Washington Post that Cairo bureau chief Leila Fadel and photographer Linda Davidson were among two dozen journalists arrested Thursday morning by Egypt's Interior ministry, said Douglas Jehl, the Post's foreign editor.
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Jehl said the Post has advised the State Department of the situation and has made "urgent protests to Egyptian authorities in Cairo and Washington."

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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2011, 12:07:59 PM »

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The Middle East Crisis Part VIII - Egyptians Circulate Manual for Protesters


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Posted on Tuesday Feb 1st at 2:02pm

In the recent days, Egyptian activists have been circulating an anonymously written pamphlet titled" How to Protest Intelligently: Important Information and Tactics." The authors ask not to post the manual on Facebook or Twitter, which are monitored by the security forces, but to distribute it by e-mail or copy it and distribute by hand.

Following are details and excerpts:

The pamphlet, a tactical guide for individuals and small groups who wish to take part in the protests, is written in simple language and in secular (rather than Islamic) terms. The authors see themselves as representing "the Egyptian people" and identify the enemy as the Mubarak regime and the security forces. The general message is that the revolution must be carried out by peaceful means, through civil resistance and non-violent protest. The manual provides instructions for organizing protests and choosing their location, and on holding demonstrations and responding to various actions by the security forces. The text is accompanied by illustrations, satellite images (downloaded from Google Earth) and diagrams.



Diagram explaining how to hold a march: small groups start in different locations and converge

The guide opens with a list of the Egyptian people's demands, as the authors see them, and of the tactical goals of the protests:

"The demands of the people of Egypt are:

1.      "An end to the regime of Mubarak and his ministers.

2.      "The abolishment of the Emergency Law.

3.      "Freedom.

4.      "Justice.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2011, 03:00:26 PM »

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Mubarak: 'If I Resign Today There Will Be Chaos'

http://abcnews.go.com/International/egypt-abc-news-christiane-amanpour-exclusive-interview-president/story?id=12833673

He told me that he is troubled by the violence we have seen in Tahrir Square over the last few days but that his government is not responsible for it. Instead, he blamed the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned political party here in Egypt.

He said he's fed up with being president and would like to leave office now, but cannot, he says, for fear that the country would sink into chaos.

I asked President Mubarak about the violence that his supporters launched against the anti-government protestors in Liberation Square.
A Christiane Amanpour interview.
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2011, 03:24:10 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110203/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_egypt_feeling_the_pinch



Cash Starved, hungry Egyptians turn on each other

CAIRO – For more than a week, Zaki Abdel-Aziz had been out of work and nearly out of money, joining millions of Egyptians living more on hope than cash as the capital plunged into chaos and the economy ground to a virtual halt.

His wife and three children were hungry, tired and tense. There was just over $17 (100 pounds) in their apartment, and no way to borrow more. Then a chilling call came Tuesday night.

"The guy asked me, 'Zaki, you haven't worked for a week, right? You don't have money?'" Abdel-Aziz, 45, recalled. "He said, 'Come out tomorrow and you'll get 100 pounds and a bag of food. All you have to do is join us against those traitors in Tahrir."

Abdel-Aziz, who works in a government records office, angrily rebuffed the offer. "I'm hungry, but I won't sell my soul to eat," he said. On Wednesday, supporters of President Hosni Mubarak converged on Tahrir Square in central Cairo, fighting deadly battles with protesters who seek the Egyptian leader's ouster.

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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2011, 03:35:49 PM »

When the folks gets hungry, they look for something to put in their pot.  That could mean you.  American journalists make for a good meal.   Oh wait, that was Mel Gibson saying "dogs make for a good meal" in the Patriot.  Oh wait, that is exactly what the good Islamic people think of Americans...they call us dogs all the time.

Best advice Anderson, get out now before you become someone's dinner.
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2011, 03:43:27 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110203/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_egypt_feeling_the_pinch



Cash Starved, hungry Egyptians turn on each other

CAIRO – For more than a week, Zaki Abdel-Aziz had been out of work and nearly out of money, joining millions of Egyptians living more on hope than cash as the capital plunged into chaos and the economy ground to a virtual halt.

His wife and three children were hungry, tired and tense. There was just over $17 (100 pounds) in their apartment, and no way to borrow more. Then a chilling call came Tuesday night.

"The guy asked me, 'Zaki, you haven't worked for a week, right? You don't have money?'" Abdel-Aziz, 45, recalled. "He said, 'Come out tomorrow and you'll get 100 pounds and a bag of food. All you have to do is join us against those traitors in Tahrir."

Abdel-Aziz, who works in a government records office, angrily rebuffed the offer. "I'm hungry, but I won't sell my soul to eat," he said. On Wednesday, supporters of President Hosni Mubarak converged on Tahrir Square in central Cairo, fighting deadly battles with protesters who seek the Egyptian leader's ouster.

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Rush said today that these riots where at first about the economy, Muslim Brotherhood hijacked it.
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