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« on: January 14, 2011, 07:01:13 PM »

I can't think of a worse time to prop up a dictatorship.  the whole house of cards is ready to collapse, so the obamites rush in to help in the oppression of millions of cubans.

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Obama Administration Continues to Loosen Rules Regarding Cuba

Jake Tapper and Kirit Radia report: The White House announced Friday afternoon that it would further ease travel and other restrictions regarding Cuba.

President Obama directed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of the Treasury Tim Geithner, and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to:

- ease travel to Cuba for religious groups and students;

- allows more remittances – up to $2,000 a year -- to flow to non-Communists in Cuba; and

- allow all US international airports to offer charter flights.

Currently only airports in Los Angeles, New York, and Miami offer such charter flights.

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 11:20:31 AM »

 Obama rushing to the aid of his Marxist friends.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 04:50:01 PM »

Trying to prop up the Marxist regime he loves so much?
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 01:11:50 AM »

Well, as everyone on this site should well know, I am no lover of Obama, or communists for that matter.  HOWEVER, USA foreign policy on its BEST day is fraught with inconsistencies, generally bad decisions, and reflective of the lunatics running the asylum.

You ask, what am I talking about....exactly?  Well I will explain.

To ignore a neighboring country....TOTALLY....while other western countries freely trade with the likes of Cuba, i.e. Canada, and then in the same breath, fall all over ourselves trading with China, clearly the most powerful COMMUNIST nation on the globe ............well, IT MAKES NO SENSE..............WHATSOEVER!!!!

Did anyone once think for a moment that having interaction with the USA is perhaps a far quicker way to get Cuba to move away from communism versus completely ignoring the country?  No.  Why?  Because we have largely IDIOTS running our foreign policy....yes   IDIOTS!

So, to make ANY effort to return the USA to a LEADERSHIP position in the western hemisphere, I support the restoration of relations with Cuba.  To continue with the total idiotic policy we have had just makes no sense....WHATSOEVER!

And by the way, I am seeing more and more retail items made of all places....VIETNAM!  Yes, another vehement COMMUNIST country.  Yet our policy is OPEN to these communists. 

MAKES NO DAMN SENSE WHATSOEVER.

I am a capitalist, and it makes no sense to allow the Canadians to clean our clock........... in ANY MARKET!

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 09:08:41 AM »

 The Castro Regime should have been wiped out in the 1960's.

 The Kennedy Regime decided that the threat of a Communist Regime in power half way around the World was more a threat to us than a Communist Regime 90 miles away. John Kennedy was really a disgrace to the United States.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 10:40:56 AM »

The Castro regime should have been wiped out...and by whom?  The USA?  

JFK was many things, but fortunately, he did not make decisions that would have resulted in World War III.  At that time, communism was real, and it was out there.  In the end, the most powerful communist country collapsed.  Yes, I am speaking of Russia.  Have you ever been there?  No I doubt it.  However, I have, and I am telling you that to present the notion that Russia was EVER a real threat to the USA is to believe in the biggest hoax of a lifetime.

Even now, their military goes six months without pay, and frequently has to scour the landscape and relieve many people of their crops on their dachas, just so they have food in their bellies.

No, our policy toward Cuba was idiotic.  We only engage in trade with China and Vietnam, two countries that today are far more communist than Cuba.  It could be argued that economically, China has evolved to a semi capitalist country, for they are certainly cleaning the clock of just about every nation in the world with their ability to produce goods, and now services.  Yes, there are Chinese service companies operating in the USA.  What next?

Sadly, the USA has lost its leadership position in the world.  We may still be the biggest baddest ape in the jungle, but what Iraq and Afghanistan have proven without doubt is that the USA can be defeated with the passage of time.  All you need is time.  Bide your time, and the great demon will ultimately return to his cave.

That is what Vietnam proved in the 70s, and the repeat performance of Vietnams II and III are once again proving it.

Our response to the 9/11 attacks was nothing less than criminal.  Can you imagine FDR two weeks after Pearl Harbor saying...hey America, the Japanese people are really good people, by in large....he would have been strung up to the nearest tree.

Bush's allegiance to his arab friends, particularly the bin Laden family is fact, not fiction.   While all of America was grounded and not permitted to fly, he saw to it that the entire bin Laden family, some 32 people I believe, got to escape the USA.  I suppose his being a friend to the bin Laden family, one of the wealthiest in the middle east had nothing to do with it, but it speaks volumes of where his loyalties rested.

I believe 16 of the 19 that attacked America on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia, and what pray tell did the news media in America identify about them in regard to their ties in Saudi Arabia....nary a word in the media.

I tell you, the whole things stinks!

Best way to win over someone, if America's way is so great, is to expose them to the American way...yes?  Let's begin to show some intelligence in American foreign policy, and not continue with the I fell on my head at birth policy.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 02:51:11 PM »

we learned from wikileaks that the administration turned it's back on the consitutional overthrow of wanna be dictator Manuel Zelaya just so obama could have a kumbaya moment with hugo chavez. 

this is probably another "teachable moment" for licking the boots of dictators.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 10:43:23 AM »

 jafo, I don't know how old you are, but from your post I don't think you were around during the Castro take over of Cuba and the Cuban Patriots attempt to regain their homeland.

John F. Kennedy betrayed the Cuban Freedom Fighters at the Bay Of Pigs, and later when he made a promise to the USSR that the United States would never invade Cuba.

As late as the eighties I knew hundreds of Cubans in South Florida who were ready to fight to re-take their Homeland, and they were just the tip of the sword. They also knew thousands in Cuba who would fight for freedom from the Castro Regime. I was told to my face that the only thing stopping them from overthrowing Castro was the United States Policy. Not only would the U.S. not invade Cuba, but by an agreement signed by Kennedy they would not allow anti Castro organizers to operate from the U.S. 

If John F. Kennedy had not been shot in Dallas he would be reviled now. The assignation was the best thing that could have happened for his legacy.

Obama is rewarding Castro for murdering thousands of innocent people and starving more thousands. And that's after taking everything from the people who earned it through their own labors and giving it to the Government, and he is the Government. (his brother now

 and that's called "redistribution of the wealth" by the Obama Regime, the same thing he's doing here, only slower and without a shooting revolution.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 10:46:46 AM »

Oh, and if Obama would make a condition that Castro and his henchmen be turned over to the Cubans in South Florida for trial for Genecide I might agree with his losening sanctions.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 10:50:04 PM »

To refresh your memory, Castro followed Batista, a dictator that by and large the USA supported. 

Believe me, our foreign policy, including that of dealing with Cuba, on its best day is lacking.  The USA has the reputation of a country that cannot be trusted in the world.  It is well earned.

If we can crawl into bed with the Chinese and the Vietnamese, them I miss the issue with Cuba.

The USA has a solidly tarnished reputation in its own hemisphere, for we are unreliable, and do little more than tokenism with countries in central and south America.

But let's continue giving $6 billion in aid to Egypt every year so they do not go to war with Israel, despite their routinely killing Christians in their country.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 08:26:28 AM »

 You don't need to refresh my memory about Batista. Castro only replaced one dictator with an even more brutal dictator. The difference between the two was the victims. Let's not forget the Mob's connection with Batista, and Josepf Kennedy's connection with the Mob. The Kennedies were a little too close to Batista.

 Castro took over promising "free elections". Once he was in power he delayed the "free elections" until he had eleminated all opposition. When he finally had elections he was the only one on the ballot. Anyone making political waves against him was thrown into his torture hell hole on Isle Of Pines. I've met people who's kinfolk are still there if they're even alive.

 Castro Nationalized everything, farms, stores, shops, everything. There was absolutely no free interprize or capitalism.

 I think the Cuban people in south Florida are more qualified to judge whether sanctions should be relaxed or not, and they are overwhelmingly against it.

 John Kennedy let the Freedom Fighters land at the Bay Of Pigs as planned and as soon as they needed the planned reinforcements and air/sea cover Kennedy pulled the plug on the whole operation and left them stranded on the beach. There were Marines on ships offshore chomping at the bits to land as oon as the Freedom Fighters established a Beachhead and declared a Government on Cuban soil. John Kennedy was a political coward. During the "Cuban Missile Crisses" he had no choice. He was backed into a corner and had to act, and even then he sold out the Cuban people and American security to get himself out of a political hole and appear to be a hero.

 But, the truth is, the United States lost more than it gained from the "Cuban Missile Crisses".

 Obama is a Marxist and favors Marxist Regimes like Chavez and Castro. He is also a sneaky bastard. He hies his true idealogy with the help of the MSM and a lose network of Marxists/socialist/communists in the Democrap Party.


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