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Title: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 10:25:35 PM
No link yet.

this from Politico

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

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LATE ANNOUNCEMENT: President Obama will make a statement Sunday night, the White House announced. Obama could speak "as early as 10:30 p.m.," the pool reported without saying what the subject would be. Obama had no public events scheduled for the day.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
ruh, roh.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:29:13 PM
No news, Obama will be speaking any minute now.  This is highly unusual. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
Anybody have any thoughts about this one?


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 10:40:23 PM
Word is Osama bin Laden is dead and they have the body???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:40:33 PM
MSNBC said it's about an overseas CIA operation involving OBL.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Stan In FL on May 01, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
Maybe we got bin laden


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:41:25 PM
Maybe we got bin laden

Got or killed.  I hope that ****er's dead.  And I hope we have his body to prove it.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:42:21 PM
I hope he's dead, and not captured.  because we sure can't put him at gitmo. ::)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:43:12 PM
I hope he's dead, and not captured.  because we sure can't put him at gitmo. ::)

 ::)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:43:20 PM
it's high time.  we've been killing the #2 guy every six months for the past 10 years.

Got or killed.  I hope that ****er's dead.  And I hope we have his body to prove it.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
don't roll your eyes at me, missy!  ;D  it's his policy, not mine.

::)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:44:33 PM
Word is Osama bin Laden is dead and they have the body???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope they have a body, otherwise I can see it becoming the latest conspiracy theory.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:48:40 PM
All I can think is:  OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
all of the cable news anchors are just unwatchable.  geraldo is probably the worst.  I'm sure fox news is slapping it's cororate forehead that it had to happen when he was on.  

if it rolls past 11:00PM, it will preempt that 5,000th recap of the royal f*cking wedding.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:50:14 PM
I wonder if we hunted him down on foot, or if the pakis got him, or if we splattered him with a predator.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:50:25 PM
all of the cable news anchors are just unwatchable.  geraldo is probably the worst.  I'm sure fox news is slapping it's cororate forehead that it had to happen when he was on.  

if it rolls past 11:00PM, it will preempt that 5,000th recap of the royal f*cking wedding.



I think this may have preempted Trump on CNN


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 10:50:52 PM
Yeah they have it.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
I wonder if we hunted him down on foot, or if the pakis got him, or if we splattered him with a predator.

They just said that they have the body. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:52:53 PM
I hope his virgins are fat, and have syphilis.

They just said that they have the body. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 10:58:22 PM
we should hang it from the brooklyn bridge.

They just said that they have the body. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
This is just amazing. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:01:43 PM
I Thank and God Bless our Military!!  


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:08:52 PM
8 years ago today....

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080430/bush-mission-accomplished/images/e9ca6825-c351-4a40-b4df-cd86d8575a66.jpg)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:11:28 PM
8 years ago today....

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080430/bush-mission-accomplished/images/e9ca6825-c351-4a40-b4df-cd86d8575a66.jpg)
No way that way 8 years ago today? Wow that is for the tin foil folks.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:13:46 PM
No way that way 8 years ago today? Wow that is for the tin foil folks.

Yep, 8 years ago.  May 1, 2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:16:39 PM
wow.  have the democrats been having a temper tantrum worthy of a two year old girl for 8 years?

8 years ago today....

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080430/bush-mission-accomplished/images/e9ca6825-c351-4a40-b4df-cd86d8575a66.jpg)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:17:41 PM
can these damn people do anything on time?  I don't remember when they weren't late for an announcement. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
I think they killed him a week ago.  we must have just gotten the DNA results.

Yep, 8 years ago.  May 1, 2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
I think they killed him a week ago.  we must have just gotten the DNA results.


Yes, that's what I believe is true as well.  But come on, you gotta admit it's at least a tad amusing it happens to be 8 years later when it gets announced. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:25:48 PM
I think they killed him a week ago.  we must have just gotten the DNA results.

So they have had him a week and Obama picks tonight to talk about it.. No Drama Obama? yeah this is all for his re-election Drama. So now that he is dead is this war over mr president? Will our troops come home?


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:28:26 PM
So they have had him a week and Obama picks tonight to talk about it.. No Drama Obama? yeah this is all for his re-election Drama. So now that he is dead is this war over mr president? Will our troops come home?

Since it was last minute, I would assume that they just received confirmation from the DNA testing. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:35:09 PM
Since it was last minute, I would assume that they just received confirmation from the DNA testing. 
OK for tonight I will be happy he is dead. Will not put on the tin foil hat, and may not?  May he burn in hell


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:37:35 PM
oh, my god.  now we know what the obamites were doing for an hour.  writing really bad poetry.  the is NOT a "we got the bastard" speech.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:39:55 PM
he directed, he determined, he met with, he, he, he, me, me, me.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:41:24 PM
OK for tonight I will be happy he is dead. Will not put on the tin foil hat, and may not?  May he burn in hell
Obama taking total credit for this.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:44:25 PM
I'm surprised he didn't pick the bullet and load the gun got got him.

Obama taking total credit for this.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:46:08 PM
Obama taking total credit for this.

Which any president would do.  Do you not think Bush would have said the same thing "I directed", etc? 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:46:49 PM
OK for tonight I will be happy he is dead. Will not put on the tin foil hat, and may not?  May he burn in hell

Obama said the operation was today when they killed him.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:47:14 PM
I'll bet van jones is very confused right now.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
sounds like the whole DNA angle is wrong . . .

Obama said the operation was today when they killed him.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:48:26 PM
apparently the president called former president bush. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:49:14 PM
apparently the president called former president bush. 

I would imagine he would.  I'm sure Bush was grateful to hear the news as well. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:49:45 PM
sounds like the whole DNA angle is wrong . . .


They have DNA to test his body with.  Maybe they expedited the processing. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:51:20 PM
I don't think you can get reliable results back in a day, can you?  and his body and the test DNA would have to be in very close proximity.

it would be awfully hard to pull off. 

They have DNA to test his body with.  Maybe they expedited the processing. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:52:33 PM
I know I should be happy about this, but I am not.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:52:42 PM
I don't think you can get reliable results back in a day, can you?  and his body and the test DNA would have to be in very close proximity.

it would be awfully hard to pull off. 


Can't Special Forces do anything?  They are pretty amazing.  Heh


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:52:51 PM
well, since it was a ground based firefight, he probably wasn't blown to bits like he would have been if it had been a 2000 pound guided munition.  maybe it just wasn't that hard to identify him.



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 01, 2011, 11:53:32 PM
I know I should be happy about this, but I am not.

I'm ecstatic.  That ****er killed thousands of Americans.  THOUSANDS.  He deserved to die, and I'm ****ing ecstatic that he's dead. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:56:12 PM
they read george bush's statement on fox news.  it was very gracious. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
I'm not sure that the whole "dancing in the streets" thing is such a great idea. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 01, 2011, 11:58:03 PM
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OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD: President Obama lays out the timeline of events that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden: He says in August, "after years of painstaking work," he was "briefed on a possible lead to bin laden."

"It was far from certain," he says, and the process "took many months." He says he met repeatedly with his national security team. Bin Laden, he says, was hiding in a compound "deep inside Pakistan."

"Last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice," Obama says, looking straight into the camera. "Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Islamabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a fire fight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body." (11:43 p.m.)

Obama calls bin Laden's death "the most significant achievement" in the war. "We must and we will remain vigilant at home and abroad," he says.

He adds, "We must also reaffirm that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. ... Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader. He was a mass murderer of Muslims."

On Pakistan, Obama says he called President Asif Ali Zardari to say that "this is a good and historic day for both of our nations." (11:46 p.m.)

Obama declares: "Justice has been done." He also pays tribute to the "countless" intelligence agents who are nameless but who he says played a crucial role in the operation. "Tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work," he says, then thanking the members of the military.

And he says to the families of the 9/11 victims that "we have never forgotten your loss."

"Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth and power but because of who we are," he says.

He thanks the country, and then walks away from the cameras. (11:47 p.m.)

http://www.politico.com/politico44/


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 01, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
george bush's statement from his facebook page

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Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001.  I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission.  They have our everlasting gratitude.  This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001.  The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message:  No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
In his statement tonight obama said this...
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"Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth and power but because of who we are," he says.
What does that mean..? Wealth and power. Why say that?

 I am not that happy I tell you why. In the grand scheme of things, he has destroyed this country and will get credit for this in the polls. He does not deserve this WHATSOEVER! If he wins re-election this country is done. That is why i am not that happy. Just me though


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 12:02:26 AM
george bush's statement from his facebook page


I would have expected nothing less from Bush. 

I'm not sure that the whole "dancing in the streets" thing is such a great idea. 

It's not.  Honestly, remember how awful it was to see people dancing in the streets on 9/11?  It reminds me of that.  I understand people wanting to celebrate, but at the same time, it's a bit...distasteful. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:09:16 AM
I have no idea what that sentence meant, but he lost me at "cloudless september morning".

In his statement tonight obama said this... What does that mean..? Wealth and power. Why say that?

 I am not that happy I tell you why. In the grand scheme of things, he has destroyed this country and will get credit for this in the polls. He does not deserve this WHATSOEVER! If he wins re-election this country is done. That is why i am not that happy. Just me though


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:12:16 AM
the palestinians were dancing when 3,000 innocent americans were killed.  we are dancing because we offed a murdering bad guy.  there's a difference, but celebrating the killing an individual still sort of gives me a slight case of the creeps.

it's not like celebrating the end or wwii, since the war on terror is nowhere near over. 

I would have expected nothing less from Bush. 

It's not.  Honestly, remember how awful it was to see people dancing in the streets on 9/11?  It reminds me of that.  I understand people wanting to celebrate, but at the same time, it's a bit...distasteful. 



Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 12:13:29 AM
the palestinians were dancing when 3,000 innocent americans were killed.  we are dancing because we offed a murdering bad guy.  there's a difference, but celebrating the killing an individual still sort of gives me a slight case of the creeps.

it's not like celebrating the end or wwii, since the war on terror is nowhere near over. 

I didn't say it was exactly the same, but just that it reminded me of it.  I agree with you, it gives me the creeps. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:16:59 AM
I agree. I do not like it either.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 12:18:31 AM
I'm having a vodka tonic to celebrate.  I don't normally drink on a school night, but I'll make an exception tonight.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:20:38 AM
I want to say again..GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY and every single person involved in killing him.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:21:12 AM
he will get a bump.  and then everyone will be depressed when it dawns on them that this really doesn't change anything, and his bump will become a non-bump.

I am not that happy I tell you why. In the grand scheme of things, he has destroyed this country and will get credit for this in the polls. He does not deserve this WHATSOEVER! If he wins re-election this country is done. That is why i am not that happy. Just me though


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 12:22:07 AM
I want to say again..GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY and every single person involved in killing him.

Seconded

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_noSNbydzxJM/TUrsuSjc5kI/AAAAAAAAE80/H5dKNsMYMyw/s400/military.jpg)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:22:57 AM
ditto.  10 years after the one murdering thug requires a great deal of discipline.  and I really didn't think the obamites really cared if they got him or not.

I want to say again..GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY and every single person involved in killing him.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:25:59 AM
they are celebrating in what appears to be a more solemn fashion in times square.  I see a firetruck.  that seems appropriate.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 12:27:14 AM
they are celebrating in what appears to be a more solemn fashion in times square.  I see a firetruck.  that seems appropriate.

That's what I would hope to see.  People healing a bit from what happened on that awful day. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:28:00 AM
he will get a bump.  and then everyone will be depressed when it dawns on them that this really doesn't change anything, and his bump will become a non-bump.

Time will tell...... I am so proud of our Military!!!!!


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:30:42 AM
ditto.  10 years after the one murdering thug requires a great deal of discipline.  and I really didn't think the obamites really cared if they got him or not.
 
No way they cared!  I gotta go for the night, shame such a fine subject. Goodnight all!!!! :-*


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:39:22 AM
bad weekend to be the son of a thug.

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U.S. believes Osama bin Laden son also killed in raid

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States believes that three adults besides Osama bin Laden were killed in Sunday's raid in Pakistan and that one of the dead was an adult son of bin Laden, a senior Obama administration official said.

More (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-obama-binladen-son-idUSTRE7410T520110502?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: Miss Mia on May 02, 2011, 01:21:26 AM
You know what I was reminded of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7OCgMPX2mE

(http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/p/pmarella/2491.jpg)

And finally we have this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNYmK19-d0U

I'm glad that ****er's finally dead.  Rot in hell. 


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: jafo2010 on May 02, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
This event does bring closure for the many that lost loved ones due to the guidance of bin Laden.

HOWEVER,

This whole event is another example of the general WEAKNESS of the Obama Administration.  This mission should be TOP SECRET, kept under wraps perhaps indefinitely.  This celebratory crap that OUR MEDIA is broadcasting like the end of WWII will result in thousands, if not millions of lost American lives in the future.  The news media covering this like they have is an absolute disgrace in my opinion.

Think of how you felt when you saw Palestinians dancing in the streets after 9/11.  My mindset was, had I been president, I would have hit that area and killed everything within a mile radius.  WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FINE FELLOWS OF AL QUEDA WILL BE THINKING?  This will fuel their hatred for the next twenty years, the death of bin Laden, but our celebrating it like they did will racchet up their anger by a factor of X.

I think the US news media is a disgrace.  They have no intelligence.  And I believe Obama is so desperate to get re-elected, they would of course herald this across the world.

I agree with JB, the bump will end up being a non bump with the passage of time, and 2 million more home owners are displaced from their homes by foreclosure by year's end.  In the grand scheme of things, this will not get Obama many more than a handful of votes in the 2012 election.

Bin Laden's death is about 9 years overdue.

The idiot talking head right now on ABC said in regard to the people standing in the street.....'With bin Laden dead, it removes a threat'.  OH REALLY!  WHAT A MORON!  He went on to say, 'What these people in the street are hoping for is that this will bring peace'.
WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE TALKING HEADS THAT HAVE NO INTELLIGENCE?

This strike deep inside Pakistan, the killing of bin Laden, and the after celebration will result in thousands of Americans dying.  They will retaliate, and they will do so repeatedly.

Obama's making this a public event is simply wrong.  This should be TOP SECRET......PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The quiet removal of the reward for bin Laden is all that should have been done, with no public broadcast.

This personifies how truly desperate Obama is to get re-elected!

Bin Laden is but one man.  The pipe line for cash from the Saudi royal family is still alive and well, I am sure.  That means terrorism lives on to fight and be funded for another day.


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 09:28:13 AM
people are missing the point.  dealing with bin laden was always a matter of bringing to justice the evil bastard that was reponsible for 9/11.  it was never going to mean the end of the war on terror.  some of the quotes from the the dancing college kids in front of the white house (and elsewhere) make  pretty clear that people have forgotten that.

the war on terror continues.  in fact, it's almost definitely going to get worse now, at least for a time.  the only thing worse than a radical islamic terrorist is a pissed off radical islamic terrorist.

al jazeera puts it in perspective:

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'Symbolic victory'

Qais Azimy, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Kabul, said Afghan officials described bin Laden's killing as a "symbolic victory", since he was no longer directly connected to the group's field operations.

"This organisation (Al Qaeda) is more than Bin Laden, it may be symbolised by Bin Laden, but it definitely is more than Bin Laden"

Mark Kimmit, a US military analyst, said bin Laden's death "was not the end of terrorism, but an end of a chapter."

"Capturing or killing bin Laden has more iconic value. It will have symbolic value, because it has been a number of years since bin Laden has exercised day to day control over operations. We still have an al-Qaeda threat out there and that will be there for a number of years.

"This organisation (al-Qaeda) is more than bin Laden, it may be symbolised by bin Laden, but it definitely is more than bin Laden," he said.

More (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/05/2011522132275789.html)


Title: Re: Obama to Make Late-Night Statement; Subject Not Announced
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
no DNA (yet).  and capturing bin laden would have been problematic for all of the obvious reasons, especially with the limp terrorist policies of this administration.  but the story is still confused.  I read last night that the SEALs gave bin laden an opportunity to surrender.

Quote
(CNN) -- The operation that killed Osama bin Laden was designed to do just that, not to take him alive, a U.S. government official told CNN Monday.

DNA matching is under way on samples from the body of the slain terrorist leader, the official said. There are photographs of the body with a gunshot wound to the side of the head that shows an individual who is not unrecognizable as bin Laden, the official said.

No decision has yet been made on whether to release the photographs and if so, when and how.

The mastermind of the worst terrorist attacks on American soil was killed by U.S. forces Monday in a mansion in Abbottabad, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) north of the Pakistani capital of Islamabad, U.S. officials said.

Four others in the compound also were killed. One of them was bin Laden's adult son, and another was a woman being used as a shield by a male combatant, the officials said.

Bin Laden's body was later buried at sea, an official said. Many Muslims adhere to the belief that bodies should be buried within one day.

More (http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.dead/?hpt=T1)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: jafo2010 on May 02, 2011, 10:11:25 AM
There are photographs of the body with a gunshot wound to the side of the head that shows an individual who is not unrecognizable as bin Laden, the official said.

They buried him at sea to hide the fact that he had more lead in him than a 500 pound anchor.

I doubt we will see any photos because of that simple fact.

Ok, now where do I go to vote for Obama?

I think Obama will ultimately regret making the capture killing of bin Laden into the absurd spectacle circus it is.  When THOUSANDS of Americans die because of this action, I doubt he will make it a similar PR event, really!!!!!!!!!!  I do not care what anyone says....this mission should have remained completely TOP SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you feel safer now?  If you said yes, you are a FLAMING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And know NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say the STINK METER is off the charts on this.  And there is no rationalizing this into an acceptable media circus that it has become.

I thoroughly despise the MUSLIM ANIMALS that DANCED on 9/11.  You can say all you want that this is different, but perception is REALITY.  NOT YOUR PERCEPTION, but the ENEMY"S PERCEPTION, which will be to only enrage the Islamic world of good people such that al Queda's ranks will swell to a new high.  And with their ranks swelling to a new high, what did we accomplish by making bin Laden;s death a PR event?

His death will not discourage the followers of Islam, but it will enrage them such that they will not lack recruits for the next ten years.  Plus, the murdering of CHILDREN in LIBYA at the same time will further enrage the good Islamic people.

God help us with the idiot leadership we appear doomed to select, over and over again.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
fascinating.  bin laden's neighbor tweeted the raid.   even more fascinating that he didn't know who his neighbor was.

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Bin Laden raid was revealed on Twitter

An IT consultant, living in Abbottabad, unknowingly tweeted details of the US-led operation as it happened.

Sohaib Athar wrote that a helicopter was hovering overhead shortly before the assault began and said that it might not be a Pakistani aircraft.

He only became aware of the significance of his tweets after President Obama announced details of Bin Laden's death.

Mr Athar's first posting on the subject came at around 1am local time (9pm BST).

He wrote: "Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event)."

MORE (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13257940)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 10:21:18 AM
the powerline guys didn't like the speech much more than I did.  and for the same reasons.

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The first part of the announcement, evoking 9/11, was vulgarly overwritten as per Obama's view of himself as some kind of gifted orator. The adjective bloated compote was unworthy of the subject, banal and self-indulgent.

Then there were his tasteless claims of personal leadership, his over-emphasis on "I" and "at my direction." Clearly, all he did was sign off on initiatives other, better men had originated. He was ungenerous to Bush, who had to deal with this thing in real time under more pressure any president has faced since Pearl Harbor and wasn't helped by the treachery of the democratic party, as exemplified by then Senator Obama . . . .

More (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/05/028948.php)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: jafo2010 on May 02, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Just because he does not acknowledge WHO his neighbor is, that doesn't mean he did not know who it was living there.  I suspect he knew, or a number knew.  Bin Laden did not exactly wear a burka as he went here and there.

He would have been seen, and it would have been known he lived there by many.

So much for the air defenses of Pakistan.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
why did the DCIA go anal about civilian casualties the the first paragraph of his statement?  this blubbering goon is about to be sec'y of defense, for god's sake.

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This morning, CIA Director Leon E. Panetta sent the following message to Agency employees:

Today, we have rid the world of the most infamous terrorist of our time. A US strike team stormed a compound in Abottabad, Pakistan and killed Usama Bin Ladin. Thankfully, no Americans were lost, and every effort was taken to avoid civilian casualties.

More (http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2011/05/02/cia-director-panettas-statement-on-bin-laden-death/?mod=google_news_blog)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 10:48:51 AM
gitmo.  the tip originated from detainees at gitmo.  GITMO.

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For nearly a decade, American military and intelligence forces had chased the specter of Bin Laden through Pakistan and Afghanistan, once coming agonizingly close and losing him in a pitched battle at Tora Bora, in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan. As Obama administration officials described it, the real breakthrough came when they finally figured out the name and location of Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, whom the Qaeda chief appeared to rely on to maintain contacts with the outside world.

Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier’s pseudonym to American interrogators and said that the man was a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.

American intelligence officials said Sunday night that they finally learned the courier’s real name four years ago, but that it took another two years for them to learn the general region where he operated.

Still, it was not until August that they tracked him to the compound in Abbottabad, a medium-sized city about an hour’s drive north of Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan.

More (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/02reconstruct-capture-osama-bin-laden.html?hp)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: Vonne on May 02, 2011, 11:56:07 AM
gitmo.  the tip originated from detainees at gitmo.  GITMO.

Ka-Pow, that will leave a mark in quite a few arguments and platforms!


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 12:05:32 PM
 . . . and was the result of enhanced interrogation techniques.  or so I have read.

Ka-Pow, that will leave a mark in quite a few arguments and platforms!


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:27:31 PM
fascinating.  bin laden's neighbor tweeted the raid.   even more fascinating that he didn't know who his neighbor was.

Wow unreal!


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
U.S. Forces Unsure Bin Laden Was There Until Face to Face

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-02/u-s-forces-were-unsure-bin-laden-in-house-until-meeting-him-face-to-face.html

(http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iQJFx83u9xOo)
The compound in Abbottabad where Osama bin Laden was killed. Photographer: Farooq Naeem/AFP/Getty Images
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The U.S. team was on site for less than 40 minutes, and bin Laden was killed resisting the assault, an official said. Three other men, one of whom may have been one of bin Laden’s sons, were killed in the raid along with a woman used as a human shield. Two women were injured. No other civilians or U.S. personnel were injured, said the officials, who spoke on condition there wouldn’t be identified.
‘Loud Explosion’

“We heard a loud explosion and then the sound of guns firing,” said Iqbal Alam Khan, 37, who works as a merchant in the town of Abbottabad where the assault took place. “It came from Bilal Town,” a property development of newly built villas and mansions about two miles from the center of Abbottabad, he said in a phone interview.

“We didn’t know the cause of the fighting and we didn’t go outside to see because it was the middle of the night,” Khan said.

One helicopter was destroyed by U.S. forces after it was grounded by a mechanical failure. U.S. officials wouldn’t say how many men were involved in the operation, describing it as a surgical strike by a small team. Bin Laden’s body was taken out of the country by the assault team and later buried at sea, another official said.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: Vonne on May 02, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
Just because he does not acknowledge WHO his neighbor is, that doesn't mean he did not know who it was living there.  I suspect he knew, or a number knew.  Bin Laden did not exactly wear a burka as he went here and there.

He would have been seen, and it would have been known he lived there by many.

I'd be shocked if the neighbors knew.  One doesn't live with a $25 million bounty on their head, an international manhunt, and trust more than a select handful of people.  The notion that his whereabouts would be neighborhood knowledge, is well... a bit unlikely.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: jafo2010 on May 02, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
That bounty has been there for years, and certainly did not motivate anyone through all that time.

Did you ever bother to put your thinking cap on and ask why someone did not want the $25 million?  No, I know the answer.

He was seen by plenty, loyal Muslims, who think of him as a true hero.

He hasn't been as visible as Charlie Sheen, or Obama, but he is largely revered within the Muslim ranks.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: jafo2010 on May 02, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
Oh by the way, now he will be heralded as a martyr to the cause, and his death will be used to recruit many thousands to destroy the great fire breathing dragon.

Better to have kept this mission completely in the black rather than making it the MEDIA CIRCUS it is.

The enemy would have been reluctant to mention his death, for they would not have had any real details, and yet their leader just up and disappeared.  That alone would have been a true leader's MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

What foolish leadership!  If I did not know better, I would say Obama is more a Muslim today than ever, for he couldn't have done something more intentionally to help our enemies.

His only interest like the loser one term president, elect much for the very same reasons Obama was elected was to pull this MEDIA CIRCUS STUNT!  Carter only did or executed actions he thought would help him get re-elected too to refresh many people;s memory.

Whenever Carter took action, I thought, well there must be a primary taking place this week.  Two sorry rotten peas out of the same pod, the same playbook.

All this does is to guarantee he will not get re-elected.

The parallels are startling to me between Obama and Carter.

I just hope the parallels between Obama and Johnson are equally the same, when Obama decides last minute to bow out of the game and not run for a 2nd term.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html

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The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden’s dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News.

“There’s no doubt it’s him,” says a US official who has seen the pictures and also reminds us that OBL was 6’4”.

The argument for releasing them: to ensure that the public knows and can appreciate that he's dead. There is of course skepticism throughout the world that the US government claim that it killed bin Laden is true.

The argument against releasing the pictures: they’re gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible.
They need to release the photo. 


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 02:42:44 PM
I don't need to see the photo, myself.  these freaks just relatively recently quit sawing american's heads off, leaving the pieces in different places, and posting video on the internet.

no need to stir the whackos back up.  especially if it won't really accomplish anything.

White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html
 They need to release the photo. 


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 03:02:09 PM
Getting Osama bin Laden: How the mission went down



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54093_Page3.html
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Last Thursday, just after his East Room announcement that Panetta would succeed Robert Gates as Defense Secretary, the president held another meeting in the Situation Room, and went through everyone’s final recommendations.

Obama didn’t announce his decision at the meeting, but kept his counsel overnight.
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In the White House Diplomatic Room at 8:20 a.m. on Friday, before flying down to view tornado destruction in Alabama, Obama informed Donilon that he was authorizing the operation. Also attending the meeting were Brennan, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley and Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough.

Donilon signed a written authorization to Panetta, who commanded the strike team. Donilon convened a principals’ meeting at 3 p.m. to finish the planning.

The raid was scheduled for Saturday, the day when Obama and most of the West Wing was due at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner. But weather pushed it to Sunday.

Did they release so much info when Saddam was captured?  You know this is out to show how Obama is a hands on CIC and in charge


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 03:12:01 PM
How long does it take to do the DNA test? I think he is dead don't get me wrong, just it was 8 hours from the time of death to burial at sea i think.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 03:15:58 PM
the DNA story is all over the place.  but all you would need is a DNA sample.  you could dispose of the body once you secured that.

but I have read every possible combination of events when it comes to the DNA thing.  that is part of the story that still seems to be up in the air.

How long does it take to do the DNA test? I think he is dead don't get me wrong, just it was 8 hours from the time of death to burial at sea i think.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 02, 2011, 04:36:42 PM
I'm glad he knew he was about to die, and I'm glad that he knew it was the US that was about to send him to hell.  I am only a bit sorry that SEALs are such good shots.  I wish he had suffered.

and I guess this is why muslim men get multiple wives;  muslim women are disposable.

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Bin Laden used wife as shield

Osama bin Laden used women as human shields as American forces fired on him in Pakistan on Sunday, White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan said.

Brennan told reporters at the White House that women were “put in front of him as a shield.” He said that “speaks to, I think, the nature of the individual he was.”

One of the women was bin Laden's wife, Brennan said.

More (http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0511/firing_on_osama_448de02d-06b6-41d2-a611-0305538f59c5.html)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 05:15:44 PM
I'm glad he knew he was about to die, and I'm glad that he knew it was the US that was about to send him to hell.  I am only a bit sorry that SEALs are such good shots.  I wish he had suffered.

and I guess this is why muslim men get multiple wives;  muslim women are disposable.

I believe this part of the story! 


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 06:36:06 PM
The secret team that killed bin Laden

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110502/pl_yblog_exclusive/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden

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From Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan, the modified MH-60 helicopters made their way to the garrison suburb of Abbottabad, about 30 miles from the center of Islamabad. Aboard were Navy SEALs, flown across the border from Afghanistan, along with tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers.

After bursts of fire over 40 minutes, 22 people were killed or captured. One of the dead was Osama bin Laden, done in by a double tap -- boom, boom -- to the left side of his face. His body was aboard the choppers that made the trip back. One had experienced mechanical failure and was destroyed by U.S. forces, military and White House officials tell National Journal.

Were it not for this high-value target, it might have been a routine mission for the specially trained and highly mythologized SEAL Team Six, officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, but known even to the locals at their home base Dam Neck in Virginia as just DevGru.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 06:40:15 PM
PICTURES: U.S. Photos of the bin Laden Compound

http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/pictures-u-s-photos-of-the-bin-laden-compound-20110502#photo_3

(http://cdn-media.nationaljournal.com/?controllerName=image&action-get&id=7791&format=gallery) WAIT they said the compound had no internet or phone YET they have satelite dishes.  I guess it was TV only???


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 07:20:17 PM
Pentagon: Osama bin Laden Wife Identified Him by Name



http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/pentagon-osama-bin-laden-wife-identified-him-by-name-dpgapx-20110502-fc_13020200

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the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier, US military and intelligence officials said, according to FOX. He was washed, wrapped in a white sheet, placed on a "prepared flat board" and "eased into the sea" within 24 hours of his death, in accordance with Islamic practice. The slain terror chief was buried at approximately 2:00am ET in the North Arabian Sea
He was placed "prepared on a flat board" THE ULTIMATE WATER-BOARDING????


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 02, 2011, 07:51:55 PM
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CONGRATS POUR IN: Here are the world leaders, according to the White House, who congratulated President Obama on Monday for authorizing the attack that killed Osama bin Laden:

Felipe Calderon, David Cameron, Angela Merkel, Benjamin Netanyahu, Sebastian Pinera, Juan Manuel Santos and Nicolas Sarkozy

They all "congratulated the President, and conveyed admiration for the courage and capability of the Americans who conducted the operation," the White House said in a statement. "The leaders discussed the ongoing terrorist threat that will require steadfast efforts in the future, and committed to working closely together to defeat al Qaeda.".

http://www.politico.com/politico44/wbarchive/whiteboard05022011.html

THIS FAWNING GOING TO A MAN WHO AFTER 9/11 BLAMED THE UNITED STATES FOR IT! I will have to see if I can find Senator Barack Obama's letter. ....


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 03, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
he vetoed a plan to drop a bomb on the place in favor of the much riskier raid, simply, it appears, so that he could "take possession" of the body.  so he would have "proof" that it was him.

why would he want "proof"?  if he's really gone, do we care if people believe it or not? 

for whom and why?   did we want undeniable proof in order to discourage al quada, or to encourage reelection voters?

I think it's a valid question, and something I have wondered since I read that the "2,000 guided munition option" was considered, but rejected.  it's infinitely safer for US personnel, and stood an equally good chance of working.

 



Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: jafo2010 on May 03, 2011, 12:26:16 PM
I can understand the logic of being sure we GET HIM.  He was a high value target, perhaps one of the highest, and verification was critical, so boots on the ground made sense.  And when you consider they used the best team to make this happen, we were certainly serious in his capture on this day.

This is a good sign however.  Obama is truly desperate and is pulling out all the stops, including the visit to NY's ground zero.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 03, 2011, 02:22:57 PM
if you drop a big enough bomb on that house, you will be certain to get him.  and a high value target is a high value target because of what they do (or did), not merely who they are.

dead people won't be doing anything ever again.  so, clearly, the point is killing the person.  that removes the future behavior.

the point is making him dead.  not proving to anyone that he's dead.

 


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 03, 2011, 02:51:44 PM
it's somewhat surprising to me that, other than hamas and a few stray bitter-enders on the al jazeera discussion boards, no one in the muslim world seems to give a sh*t that this guy is sleeping with the fishes.

10 years spent frantically attempting to remain alive probably doesn't leave much time to plan terror strikes.  this guy was symbolic, not strategic.



Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 03, 2011, 05:39:23 PM
it's somewhat surprising to me that, other than hamas and a few stray bitter-enders on the al jazeera discussion boards, no one in the muslim world seems to give a sh*t that this guy is sleeping with the fishes.

10 years spent frantically attempting to remain alive probably doesn't leave much time to plan terror strikes.  this guy was symbolic, not strategic.


I just happend to be able to see LINK TV Al Jazera last night.  Nothing bad about killing Usama. I was a bit suprised.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 03, 2011, 06:00:11 PM
White House: bin Laden photo 'gruesome'

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7548373.html

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WASHINGTON — The White House says the photograph of a dead Osama bin Laden is "gruesome" and that "it could be inflammatory" if released.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said the White House is mulling whether to make the photo public, but he said officials are concerned about the "sensitivity" of doing so. Carney said there is a discussion internally about the most appropriate way to handle but "there is not some roiling debate here about this."

Asked if President Barack Obama is involved in the photo discussion, Carney said the president is involved in every aspect of this issue.
WHAT ABOUT DANIEL PEARL??? THOSE CONTRACTORS WHOSE BODY'S WERE BURNED AND HUNG FROM THAT BRIDGE????? WHAT ABOUT THAT OTHER MAN NICK BURG I THINK HIS NAME WAS, KSM KICKED THE CHAIR HE WAS TIED IN AND SLIT HIS THROAT?????
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The last time President Obama went to Ground Zero was 2008, and he was with John McCain for what both campaigns described, without irony, as a non-political observance of the anniversary of the 2001 attacks.

Any time a politician goes to Ground Zero -- in September or otherwise -- and especially with a retinue of national media in tow, it's deeply political.

Which is what makes Obama's planned trip to Ground Zero on Thursday so curious. What's he going to say? How to avoid making a post-kill mission trip to the hallowed ground not appear exploitative and intensely political?

"He risks overdoing it," said Cindy Rugeley, a political scientist at Texas A&M University. "You don't want to appear like you are taking advantage of the situation."

After his dramatic, late-night announcement on Sunday that Osama bin Laden was dead, Obama followed up the next day with brief remarks about it at a medal of honor ceremony, and more remarks later at a bipartisan dinner with lawmakers.

The White House says it is worried about the troops safety with the release of the photo..SURE RIGHT.. The only reason 0 used a Seal Team was to get the body and improve his poll rating. NOTHING ELSE. He is going to Ground Zero Thursday Even Politico says it is a victory lap.

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Any time a politician goes to Ground Zero -- in September or otherwise -- and especially with a retinue of national media in tow, it's deeply political

Keeping the momentum going
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0511/victory_lap_600ba18c-e3f5-41e8-bc48-8b3b7be5f295.html

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Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 07, 2011, 01:33:40 PM
retreating?  personally, I wouldn't care if he was hanging from a chandelier with his boxers on his head when we whacked him, but if the MSM got so much as a whiff of the guy getting shot in the back when GWB was president, they would be going insane.  INSANE, I tell ya.

so would pelosi, and the doddering old man, harry reid, and senator obama.

I wonder if that has anything to do with not releasing the pictures.

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According to the latest reports released by the administration, bin Laden was found on the third floor of his compound, in the doorway of his bedroom. When he turned and retreated, he was shot twice, in the head and in the chest. The Navy SEAL team later found an AK-47 and a pistol in bin Laden’s room, according to reports.

“He was retreating,” a US official told The Washington Post, which he added is a move that is regarded as resistance warranting US commando team fire. “Is he getting a weapon?” the official said. “You don’t know why he’s retreating, [or] what he’s doing when he goes back in there.”

More (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2011/0506/Osama-bin-Laden-raid-Four-fresh-twists-in-the-story/Bin-Laden-s-final-moments)


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: apples on May 07, 2011, 07:37:45 PM
retreating?  personally, I wouldn't care if he was hanging from a chandelier with his boxers on his head when we whacked him, but if the MSM got so much as a whiff of the guy getting shot in the back when GWB was president, they would be going insane.  INSANE, I tell ya.

so would pelosi, and the doddering old man, harry reid, and senator obama.

I wonder if that has anything to do with not releasing the pictures.

I wonder why they do not release the pictures, yet again I am sure they are going to milk this for a while.


Title: Re: The "Bin Laden is Dead" Thread
Post by: JohnBrowdie on May 07, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
releasing the photos of saddam's dead sons' bullet riddled bodies didn't "inflame" anything.

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