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Author Topic: Florida Judge Rules Individual Mandate "healthcare" Unconstitutional  (Read 3664 times)
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 04:11:56 PM »

how can this be?!?!?  teh one is a consitutional scholar?  (aka a guest lecturer, but the MSM will never tell you that)
Wink Then again the only constitution he wants is none.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 04:35:32 PM »

wrong on citizens united.  wrong on obamacare.  likely to be proven wrong on sb1070.  for a constitutional expert, he sure is wrong on constitutional issues a lot.
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 04:50:30 PM »

wrong on citizens united.  wrong on obamacare.  likely to be proven wrong on sb1070.  for a constitutional expert, he sure is wrong on constitutional issues a lot.
the only constitutional issues he is about is how to destroy the Constitution.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2011, 05:36:02 PM »

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0111/w_h_accuses_judge_of_overreaching_dfe93f74-7bd1-486a-8a8d-28472ad2fb01.html

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JUDGE WHO? -- The White House says a ruling by a federal judge against the new health care law is an example of judicial "overreaching" and "activism."

"This ruling is well out of the mainstream of judicial opinion," Stephanie Cutter, an assistant to President Obama, wrote on the White House's blog after Judge Roger Vinson in Florida ruled that the entire law is unconstitutional. "Today’s ruling ... is a plain case of judicial overreaching. The judge’s decision contradicts decades of Supreme Court precedent that support the considered judgment of the democratically elected branches of government that the Act’s 'individual responsibility' provision is necessary to prevent billions of dollars of cost-shifting every year by individuals without insurance who cannot pay for the health care they obtain."

Cutter accused the judge of putting "all of the new benefits, cost savings and patient protections that were included in the law at risk." She added, "We don’t believe this kind of judicial activism will be upheld and we are confident that the Affordable Care Act will ultimately be declared constitutional by the courts."

The Justice Department said it will appeal the ruling..
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2011, 05:51:52 PM »

striking down an unconstitutional law is not activist.  weenies.
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2011, 05:57:14 PM »

they are saying that it is constitutional because they think it needs to be constitutional, not because the law remains (or the actions of congress in passing this law) within the bounds set forth in the constitution.   and that is the living document theory at work.  "the constitution means what I damn well want it to mean".


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"This ruling is well out of the mainstream of judicial opinion," Stephanie Cutter, an assistant to President Obama, wrote on the White House's blog after Judge Roger Vinson in Florida ruled that the entire law is unconstitutional. "Today’s ruling ... is a plain case of judicial overreaching. The judge’s decision contradicts decades of Supreme Court precedent that support the considered judgment of the democratically elected branches of government that the Act’s 'individual responsibility' provision is necessary to prevent billions of dollars of cost-shifting every year by individuals without insurance who cannot pay for the health care they obtain."
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 06:11:03 PM »

lol. I knew they say something like that. Accusing them of activism is soooooo hypocritical
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 06:25:33 PM »

lol. I knew they say something like that. Accusing them of activism is soooooo hypocritical
I guess to them we are activist?
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 06:59:25 PM »

I guess to them we are activist?

That would make them the establishment. or the man. Don't trust the man, man.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 08:49:57 AM »

irony is operating on several different levels here.  the severability language was taken out in the senate in order to preserve all of the side deals that bought several senators' votes.  that one is arguable, because the whole bill probably collapses if the individual mandate is cut out of the bill.  so it stands or falls in it's entirety anyway.

but PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE obama ran hard against the individual mandate, which hillary supported.  he held it up to some ridicule, and wondered if it was possible, advisable, or legal.

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