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« on: February 09, 2017, 07:43:52 pm »

The judicial branch of government is totally out of control.  I have nothing but total contempt of lawyers who have become judges, people whose degree fully enables them to lie through their teeth.  As this article indicates, I agree with the notion that Trump completely ignore these court rulings.  At no time should any judge nullify the efforts of the President of the USA to implement policies intended to defend America and the American people.

Another option for Trump is to suspend all immigration into the USA for an undefined period of time.  With 95 million Americans sitting at home out of the workforce that should be in it, we do not need additional population for anything.

And last but not least, Trump vowed to end the H1-b Visa Program day one in office.  THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED! 


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Does our current status quo make our Constitution a suicide pact? Thomas Jefferson certainly said as much, warning that accepting judicial supremacy would make our founding document just that, a felo de se, as he put it in Latin.

Acceptance of judicial supremacy, by the way, is precisely why President Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority nations is on hold. Imagine that, Alexander Hamilton wrote in The Federalist, No. 78 that the judiciary is the "least dangerous" branch of government because it "has no influence over either the sword or the purse," yet it's trumping the man with the sword, the president. But does it have to be this way?
 
No, Trump could simply ignore the court ruling suspending his ban.

Outrageous!? Unconstitutional!? Actually, it's wholly constitutional.

In his dissent from the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges marriage ruling, late Justice Antonin Scalia warned that with "each decision? unabashedly based not on law," the Court moves "one step closer to being reminded of [its] impotence." What did Scalia know about courts' power?

That it's basically an illusion.

Let's do a civics quiz. Why does the legislative branch have the power to make law? Why does the executive branch (presidency) have the power to enforce law? The answer in both cases is because the Constitution grants it.

Okay, now how is it that the judiciary has the "power" to rule on law and have its decisions constrain not just its own branch, but the other two as well? How have the courts become king? Because the Constitution grants?no, stop. It's not in the Constitution?anywhere.
 
Rather, this "power" was declared by the courts themselves, most notably in the 1803 Marbury v. Madison decision.

That's right, the Supreme Court gave the Supreme Court the supreme power to have the final say on laws' meaning.

It's a great con if you can pull it off.

The point is that the judiciary enjoys this power at the executive branch's pleasure. As soon as the latter says, to paraphrase Andrew Jackson, "The courts have made their decision; now let them enforce it," that power goes bye-bye. The judiciary is reminded of its impotence.

So it isn't just that the courts lack the sword or purse, the possession and exercise of which could simply amount to might making right. They also have no constitutional claim to judicial supremacy. In fact, the power is a violation of everything for which America stands.

http://canadafreepress.com/article/trump-could-simply-ignore-courts-order-halting-travel-ban#
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2017, 08:54:58 pm »

Federal appeals court maintains suspension of Trump?s immigration order

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-appeals-court-maintains-suspension-of-trumps-immigration-order/2017/02/09/e8526e70-ed47-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.abf97cef7272

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A federal appeals court panel has maintained the freeze on President Trump?s controversial immigration order, meaning previously barred refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries can continue entering the United States.

In a unanimous, 29-page opinion, three judges with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit flatly rejected the government?s argument that the suspension of the order should be lifted immediately for national security reasons and forcefully asserted their ability to serve as a check on the president?s power.

The judges wrote that any suggestion that they couldn?t ?runs contrary to the fundamental structure of our constitutional
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2017, 08:57:08 pm »

The judicial branch of government is totally out of control.  I have nothing but total contempt of lawyers who have become judges, people whose degree fully enables them to lie through their teeth.  As this article indicates, I agree with the notion that Trump completely ignore these court rulings.  At no time should any judge nullify the efforts of the President of the USA to implement policies intended to defend America and the American people.

Another option for Trump is to suspend all immigration into the USA for an undefined period of time.  With 95 million Americans sitting at home out of the workforce that should be in it, we do not need additional population for anything.

And last but not least, Trump vowed to end the H1-b Visa Program day one in office.  THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED! 


http://canadafreepress.com/article/trump-could-simply-ignore-courts-order-halting-travel-ban#

I do not know why he didn't to begin with. ignore. Or do another EO for all immigration halt. Now it goes to scotus...what then? 4-4? then what. If they win this the rest of tRumps presidency is gone.  Horrible
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