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 on: December 13, 2017, 06:26:48 am 
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 on: December 12, 2017, 12:27:50 pm 
Started by PzLdr - Last post by PzLdr
One of the more little known aspects of the Civil War was the involvement of Indians in it.

With the outbreak of the civil War, both the Union, and the Confederacy made determined efforts to align the "F8ive Civilized Tribes" [Cherokee, Choctaw, Seminole, Chickasaw, Creek] in the Indian Territory to their side. And both had some success.

One might well ask why the Indians would choose to side with either government, since historically, such alliances had never worked out well for the indigenous aboriginies [see the Iroquois, the Shawnee, etc]. But there were reasons, specifically as to the Confederacy that had some effect.

First, many of the Indians held slaves. Slavery was more pronounced in some of the tribes than others, but it existed. Second, they had been exiled by the U.S. government, not Richmond. which was fighting the government that exiled them. But there was no unity as to which way to go. The Tribes fought for both sides, often against each other, for the duration.

Stand Watie was a Cherokee who had trod 'The Trail of Tears'. In fact, he had been one of the signatories of the treaty which had forfeited the Cherokee lands in the southeast [he was the only Cherokee signer who was not subsequently assassinated].

But with the beginning of hostilities, Stand Watie raised a regiment of the Confederacy, and waged war against the Union in the Trans-Mississippi theater of war.

By 1865, Watie had commanded a cavalry brigade, then a division of Indian troops. He was, by now, a Brigadier General, the only Indian Brigadier General in the history of the Confederacy. He was the last Confederate General to surrender, in June of 1865.

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 on: December 12, 2017, 12:08:12 pm 
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It was, in a sense, a ship out of an earlier age, or a potboiler novel, a gun boat, with a whiff of "Terry and the Pirates", or "Tales of the golden Monkey". But it was real, a U.S naval vessel. and it was tasked with helping U.S evacuees down the Yangtze River as the Japanese and Chinese battled for Nanking [ Rape (and Massacre) of in progress].

The Panay and several British gunboats were observing neutrality in the conflagration, seeking only to remove citizens and property of their respective countries from the fighting.

In accordance with that neutrality, the U.S.S Panay notified the Japanese of its location, and covered portions of the ships deck and superstructure with American Flags, as well as flying the same from the ship's masts.

Despite that, Japanese bombers and fighters appeared over Panay, bombed her, and strafed those fleeing in  lifeboats, and huddled on the river's bank. They also sank the gunboat H.M.S. Ladybird.

Although the attack was carried out by Imperial Navy aircraft, it appears the order originated with Imperial Army officers [to say Admiral Yamamoto was outraged would be putting it mildly]. In any case, Tokyo assumed full responsibility for the sinking, and had an Admiral fully apologize for the incident. Japan also paid over $2 million dollars in indemnity to the United States.

And the Rape of Nanking went on. 

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 on: December 12, 2017, 06:17:23 am 
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 on: December 11, 2017, 06:25:22 am 
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Thirty-two Democratic senators have now called on Sen. Al Franken to step aside after another woman accused him of sexual misconduct. Also stepping aside: women when they see Al Franken coming.
 
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 on: December 11, 2017, 01:59:07 am 
Started by apples - Last post by PzLdr
What is the cost for a new M1A1 tank?

How do the new Russian tanks compare to it now?
There are no new M1A1 Abrams. They stopped production on them five, ten years back. They refurbish and upgrade the current fleet. Hopefully, there's a new MBT in the pipeline somewhere [probably, at best in R&D].

As to how the current Abrams stacks up to the newest Russian [and don't forget the Chinese have a new battle tank], I don't know. but they seem to be semi-clones of the Abrams, so that's something.

to me the problem is, what happens when the tanks we have take damage, and we have no replacements [and the same if we expand the Army].

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 on: December 10, 2017, 04:55:32 pm 
Started by apples - Last post by jafo2010
What is the cost for a new M1A1 tank?

How do the new Russian tanks compare to it now?

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 on: December 10, 2017, 11:29:47 am 
Started by PzLdr - Last post by PzLdr
She was probably the unluckiest ship of WW II. PRINCE OF WALES had sailed, in company with HMS HOOD, to intercept the battleship BISMARCK and heavy cruiser PRINZ EUGEN when the latter ships set out to commerce raid the Atlantic in May, 1941. By end of day on May 24th, HOOD had been blown out of the water, and PRINCE OF WALES had been savaged by BISMARCK. After repairs in America, POW [PRINCE OF WALES] carried Churchill to the Acasta Conference with FDR. But then, POW became the victim of one of Churchill's brainstorms.

With hostilities with Japan on the horizon, and Singapore a likely target for Japanese aggression, Churchill decided to send a naval task force to Malaya to 'deter' the Japanese the force, Force 'Z', was to consist of the POW [battleship 10 x 14" guns], the Battlecruiser REPULSE, the carrier ILLUSTRIOUS, and several destroyers. One thing that was lacking were any reinforcements and additions to the RAF in Malaya. not only were they given obsolete or obsolescent aircraft, they weren't sent enough or them, nor were they sent in a timely manner [they were transported by cargo ship.

Then, while on the way, ILLUSTRIOUS ran aground, requiring extensive repair. Force 'Z' now had absolutely NO organic air cover. Churchill sent them on anyway.

The commander of Force 'Z' was Admiral Tom Phillips. Phillips had been a senior officer in the Royal Naval staff, and was a well known derider of the efficacy of air power against moving battleships. In short, he was a 'big gun boy'. Nor was Phillips particularly well liked by the POW crew, since he had been one of the voices seeking to court-martial POW's captain in the aftermath of the Denmark Strait [It took Admiral Tovey's threat to resign as C in C, Home Fleet if the court martial took place, to end that imbroglio].

But Force 'Z' arrived in Singapore just before the hostilities broke out. And on December 8th, with Great Britain's declaration of war on Japan, the Japanese moved into Thailand and invaded Malaya. Force 'Z' was at war.

Phillips immediately set sail to intercept and attack Japanese transports and the landings themselves. And although not a fan of air power, Phillips made every effort he could to get air cover from the RAF. But air cover was not forthcoming.

Force 'Z' was spotted fairly early by Japanese submarines, but Japanese plans for an airstrike were spoiled when Phillips reversed course and headed back south, since all his intelligence pointed to successful, and unassailable Japanese landings in northern Malaya. However, Phillips soon received fresher [and erroneous] reports of Japanese landings further south. He reversed course again, heading towards the erroneously reported landing zones. He was again spotted by Japanese submarines. This time there would be no escape.

The aircraft that sallied to attack Force 'Z' comprised all land based high level multi-engine bombers, dive bombers and torpedo bombers. they flew from Hainan [Taiwan], and French Indochina. They were all veterans.

The action lasted less than an hour total. And when it was over, PRINCE OF WALES and REPULSE were both at the bottom of the ocean. And Admiral Phillips, who had gone down with his ship, had proved aircraft were capable, by themselves, of sinking a moving battleship.

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 on: December 09, 2017, 12:12:37 am 
Started by apples - Last post by PzLdr
I trained on the M-60 A1 when I was in Armor Officer Basic at the Armor School at Ft. Knox in 1968.  Grin

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 on: December 08, 2017, 03:24:48 pm 
Started by apples - Last post by apples
Just found out this SOB fired the weapon FIVE TIMES!  Accidental discharge my *ss.  People in California have sh*t for brains.

Yep.

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